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Nichole Argo describes the work she’s doing to bring communities together by assembling people with different viewpoints around one table to discuss their challenges and formulate solutions.  After great success in her hometown, she’s now pursuing similar models across the country, and she’s optimistic that combining a growing desire for belonging with proven methods for building community will yield positive results.  Links: TogetherUp Institute Reimagining Us podcast Chapters: 01:11 Meet Nichole Argo  Bill introduces Nichole Argo, a social psychologist and founder of the Togetherup Institute, highlighting her impressive background and her work in promoting belonging and community resilience.  02:30 Understanding Social Psychology  Nichole explains the essence of social psychology, discussing how it examines social identities and group behaviors, and shares her journey from studying conflict to fostering cooperation.  04:11 Navigating Conflict  The conversation delves into Nichole’s personal comfort with conflict, exploring how understanding and managing internal conflicts can lead to more productive discussions in various settings.  06:02 The Challenge of Online Conflict  Bill and Nichole discuss the rise of online conflict and the societal tendency to engage in arguments, emphasizing the importance of recognizing when to step back from disputes.  08:39 Founding TogetherUp  Nichole recounts the founding of TogetherUp, driven by a local crisis in her community, and the importance of building relationships across differences to foster belonging.  10:44 The Needham Resilience Network  Nicole shares her experience with the Needham Resilience Network, a transformative initiative aimed at bridging divides and fostering collaboration among community members.  14:00 The Power of Local Communities  Nichole emphasizes the significance of local communities in practicing democracy and fostering resilience, arguing that local solutions are essential for addressing broader societal challenges.  19:09 Finding Common Ground  The conversation explores the idea of identifying shared values and interests among differing groups, illustrating how focusing on commonalities can facilitate better communication and understanding.  22:15 The Importance of Resilience  Nichole discusses the necessity of resilience in facing contemporary challenges, stressing that strong communities can better withstand adversities through social cohesion.  23:25 Launching Reimagining Us  Nichole introduces her podcast, Reimagining Us, detailing its purpose of exploring how Americans can collaborate across differences and the motivations behind its creation.  27:10 The Beauty of Local Action  Bill and Nichole reflect on the abundance of individuals and initiatives working towards positive change at the local level, emphasizing the importance of community engagement and action.  29:10 Influencing Change at the Local Level  In this chapter, the conversation explores how individuals can make a significant impact within their local communities, contrasting it with the challenges of influencing larger political structures.   31:05 The Role of Local Media  Nichole and Bill delve into the critical role of local media in fostering community engagement and cohesion, especially in the face of declining local news outlets.   33:30 The Double-Edged Sword of Social Media  This chapter addresses the paradox of social media, which has the potential to unite and divide communities.   36:14 Reimagining Social Media for Good  Nichole highlights emerging platforms that focus on building connections and fostering a sense of belonging.  44:40 Empowering Communities with Resources  In the final segment, Nichole shares how TogetherUp is providing tools and resources for communities to foster belonging and engagement.  

Over the course of his remarkable career, Harry Smith interviewed six US presidents and numerous celebrities including Julia Roberts, Cher, and Madonna.  But on this Blue Sky episode Harry shares that his favorite people to cover were the ones we’ve likely never heard of, the everyday heroes that he describes as the glue of our society.  Harry shares some of the wisdom he’s earned and now share bestows on students in the college class he’s teaching at his alma mater.  Chapters: 02:16 Meet Harry Smith: A Journalism Legend  Bill welcomes Harry Smith, a respected journalist with a rich career spanning over three decades, and reflects on Harry’s journey from humble beginnings to a prominent news anchor.  03:34 From Truck Driver Dreams to Journalism  Harry shares his early aspirations of becoming a truck driver and how his upbringing in a blue-collar family shaped his work ethic and eventual path into journalism.  07:01 The Spark of Curiosity  Harry discusses how influential teachers ignited his passion for writing and journalism, emphasizing the importance of curiosity in his career development.  11:44 The Importance of Authentic Stories  Harry reflects on his preference for interviewing everyday people with extraordinary stories, highlighting the authenticity and richness of their experiences compared to rehearsed celebrity narratives.  15:00 Media and Public Perception  The conversation shifts to the current state of media, with Harry discussing the longstanding criticism of news outlets and how public trust has fluctuated over the years.  17:57 Building Trust Through Hard Work  Harry shares insights on how building trust in journalism allows for more freedom in storytelling, emphasizing the importance of thoroughness and dedication in his career.  20:04 Curiosity as a Lifelong Skill  Harry discusses his teaching on curiosity at Central College, explaining how intrinsic curiosity can lead to greater fulfillment in both professional and personal life.  25:44 Finding Joy in the Everyday  Harry emphasizes the importance of mindfulness and being present, sharing how simple observations of nature can enhance one’s appreciation for life.  29:25 The Power of Discipline and Nature  Harry discusses the importance of discipline in his writing process and how engaging with nature can uplift one’s spirit. He emphasizes the joy of experiencing the outdoors over succumbing to negativity.  32:10 Teaching the Next Generation  Harry reflects on his experience teaching college students and challenges the stereotypes of Generation Z. He shares how his students surprised him with their willingness to engage in hands-on learning and take risks.  36:21 Optimism in Marriage  Harry opens up about his marriage with Andrea, contrasting their differing perspectives on optimism. He shares a light-hearted moment that highlights their dynamic and Andrea’s determination in her career.  39:16 Navigating Information Overload  As the conversation wraps up, Harry offers advice on managing media consumption and staying informed without becoming overwhelmed. He stresses the importance of balance and turning off the constant stream of news.  42:44 A Class Like No Other  The episode concludes with a reflection on Harry’s unique teaching style that incorporates fun and engagement, making learning enjoyable for his students. The host expresses admiration for Harry’s approach and the impact he has on young minds. 

Blue Sky host Bill Burke, along with several past guests, have described today as the best time to be alive in all of human history.  On this episode, Bill explains some data-backed reasons why and provides hope that even better days lie ahead. 

Mary McManus has never had it easy.  As a kindergartener, she was a victim of polio just a short time before the vaccine was introduced.  She also faced trauma in her home life but somehow managed to persevere and overcome these and still more obstacles throughout her life.  Today, Mary is an inspiring author, poet, motivational speaker, and finisher of the Boston Marathon.    Chapters: 01:05 Meet Mary McManus  Mary McManus is introduced as a remarkable individual with a story of resilience and triumph over adversity.   02:14 Mary’s Early Challenges  Mary shares her early life experiences, including her diagnosis of polio at a young age and the impact it had on her family dynamics. Despite her paralysis, she describes a profound spiritual connection that provided her comfort during this challenging time.  08:09 The Road to Recovery Mary recounts her journey through physical therapy and the support she received from dedicated professionals who helped her regain mobility.   12:08 Finding Purpose in College  In college, Mary discovers her passion for helping others while working in the counseling center.   16:08 A Career with Veterans  Mary shares her experiences working with veterans at the VA, highlighting the challenges they faced upon returning from Vietnam  17:02 The Diagnosis of Post-Polio Syndrome  Mary discusses her diagnosis of post-polio syndrome nearly 50 years after her initial polio diagnosis, detailing the physical and emotional challenges she faced.   22:59 Turning Pain into Poetry  In a moment of introspection, Mary turns to poetry as a means of healing and self-expression. This creative outlet not only provides relief from her pain but also sparks a new chapter in her life.  24:21 From Poetry to Running  Mary shares her transformative journey from writing poetry to setting an ambitious goal of completing the Boston Marathon  29:01 Rebuilding Strength: The Journey Begins  Mary shares her initial struggles with physical fitness post-therapy, highlighting her determination to regain strength. With the support of her trainer, she sets ambitious goals, including a desire to run the Boston Marathon.  31:34 The Training Journey: From Walking to Running  Mary describes her gradual transition from walking to running, emphasizing the importance of patience and support from family during her training.   35:03 Facing Doubts: The Mental Challenge of Marathon Training  As the Boston Marathon approaches, Mary reflects on the mental hurdles she faces, including moments of doubt. However, her unwavering belief in her ability to complete the race, supported by her trainer and family, keeps her focused.  38:10 The Emotional Finish: Crossing the Marathon Line  Mary recounts the emotional experience of running the Boston Marathon, including the support from friends and family along the course. She describes the overwhelming joy and healing she felt as she crossed the finish line.  39:57 Life After the Marathon: Trials and Triumphs  After the marathon, Mary faces new challenges, including personal loss and health setbacks, yet she remains resilient.   44:33 Resilience Through Adversity: The Power of Poetry and Running  Mary discusses her experiences during the pandemic, including health challenges and the therapeutic power of writing poetry. Despite setbacks, she finds motivation to continue running and sets new goals for herself.  46:44 Looking Forward: Embracing New Challenges  As Mary reflects on her journey, she emphasizes the importance of resilience and gratitude in overcoming life’s challenges. With plans to run a half marathon again, she inspires others to pursue their goals, regardless of obstacles. 

Political division in the United States is an issue often cited as contributing to the pessimistic outlook so many of us have. Blue Sky guest Lindsey Cormack believes that our government will only improve if we begin to understand it better and get involved ourselves.  As a college professor, when she found that many of her students were remarkably ignorant about how our government works, she decided to do something about it. The result is her latest book, which challenges parents to fill the void left by elementary and high schools that no longer teach these subjects in the classroom.    Learn more about Lindsey's book: https://howtoraiseacitizen.com/   Chapters: 02:33 Meet Lindsey Cormack  Bill introduces Lindsey Cormack, a college professor and author, highlighting her background, research, and her mission to improve civics education in America.  04:47 The Importance of Understanding Our Government  Lindsey discusses the alarming ignorance among students regarding government and civics, emphasizing the need for reform in how civics is taught in schools.  07:06 Parents as Key Players in Civics Education  Lindsey argues that parents play a crucial role in teaching civics, as schools struggle to provide adequate education on the subject due to various systemic challenges.  09:30 Navigating Political Conversations  The conversation shifts to the challenges parents face when discussing politics with their children, including fears of misunderstanding and differing political views.  12:25 Engaging with Local Government  Lindsey emphasizes the importance of local government in everyday life and encourages listeners to get involved, explaining how local actions can lead to meaningful change.  19:56 The Role of Parents in Political Education  The conversation focuses on how parents can normalize political discussions at home, fostering an environment where children feel comfortable exploring political ideas.  22:01 Optimism in Civic Engagement  Bill and Lindsey discuss the relationship between optimism and civic engagement, emphasizing that understanding politics can empower individuals to make a difference.  26:04 Historical Context of Political Division  The conversation explores historical instances of political division in the U.S., drawing parallels to current events and emphasizing the resilience of democracy.  29:16 The Impact of Smartphones on Society  Lindsey reflects on how technology, much like junk food, can be seductive and detrimental to children’s development.  32:50 Creating a Phone-Free Environment  Lindsey discusses her approach to managing smartphone use among her daughter’s friends, including implementing a ‘phone graveyard’ at home.   36:01 Empowering Parents  The conversation shifts to how parents can become more engaged in their children’s civic education, with Lindsey encouraging them to seek knowledge actively.   40:39 Understanding Political Structures  Lindsey emphasizes the value of understanding the political system and encourages parents to explore current events as teaching moments for their children.   41:36 Reflecting on the Role of Technology and History  The episode concludes with a reflection on the dual nature of smartphones, acknowledging their benefits while cautioning against their overuse.    

Sam Pressler has a strong track record of bringing people together and working to rebuild the civic infrastructure of the United States. In addition to being a researcher and writer, he is also the founder of the Armed Services Art Partnership and Connective Tissue, a collection of projects designed to help people understand how they might go about creating connections in their own towns and civic organizations.    Chapters: 02:20 Making Grandmothers Proud  Sam shares the inspiration behind his mantra of making his grandmothers proud, discussing the significant influence they had on his life and values, particularly in relation to community and intellectual engagement.  04:30 The Birth of the Armed Services Arts Partnership  Sam recounts the inception of the Armed Services Arts Partnership, detailing how his passion for humor and service led to the creation of a stand-up comedy class for veterans, which blossomed into a national nonprofit.  08:02 The Impact of the Armed Services Arts Partnership  Reflecting on the success of the Armed Services Arts Partnership, Sam discusses its growth and ongoing mission to connect veterans with the arts, fostering community and purpose in their lives.  14:44 Exploring Community and Connection  Sam reflects on his academic journey at Harvard, where he delved into themes of community, spirituality, and the importance of reconnecting people to the commitments that give life meaning.  15:45 The Challenge of Rebuilding Civic Life  Discussing the generational work needed to address the decline of community, Sam emphasizes the importance of cultural and structural change in rebuilding civic life and fostering connections.  19:08 Rethinking Technology’s Role  Sam and Bill engage in a conversation about the impact of technology on community engagement, exploring how to repurpose digital tools to foster connection rather than isolation.  25:07 Collective Action for Change  As they discuss the lingering effects of the pandemic, Sam highlights the potential for collective action to reshape community engagement and emphasizes the need for a cultural shift towards in-person connections.  32:20 The Isolation of Remote Work  Sam discusses the isolating nature of remote work and its impact on social connections, particularly for younger individuals who rely on workplace relationships for friendship..  34:32 Government’s Role in Community Building  Transitioning to policy discussions, Sam introduces his comprehensive 182-page framework aimed at enhancing government involvement in fostering community connections.   37:10 Creating Pathways for Young Adults  Sam highlights the critical period of adult transition and the lack of structured pathways for those not attending college.   41:13 Micro Grants for Community Interaction  In this chapter, Sam shares examples of successful community initiatives, such as micro grants for block parties and neighborhood dinners, that encourage social interaction.   44:00 The Shift Towards Community Engagement  The conversation shifts to the importance of viewing residents as community members rather than clients, with suggestions for local governments to enhance engagement.   46:24 From Individualism to Community  Sam reflects on the cultural shift from individualism towards a more communal mindset, emphasizing the need for social connections that foster a sense of belonging. The chapter concludes with a discussion on the importance of feeling needed within a community.  50:01 Connective Tissue: A Newsletter for Community Insights Wrapping up the episode, Sam introduces his ‘Connective Tissue’ newsletter, which shares insights and practical ideas for community building.  

On the heels of the “Arts Educators Save the World” feed swap episode with Jonathan Groff and his elementary school music teacher, Linda Tough, Bill Burke reflects on the role of teachers and mentors in helping us all be optimistic.  He shares his own influences and those of many Blue Sky guests, while encouraging us to think of our own and consider being mentors ourselves. 

In this very special “feed swap” edition, Blue Sky Alum Erica Halverson interviews award-winning Jonathan Groff and his inspirational elementary school music teacher, Linda Tough, on the “Arts Educators Save the World” podcast.      Learn more about Erica's podcast here: https://www.artseducatorspodcast.com/   Chapters: 00:00 Welcome to the Feed Swap In this special edition of the Blue Sky podcast, the host introduces the concept of a Feed Swap with Erica Halverson and highlights the upcoming conversation with Jonathan Groff, a celebrated actor known for his roles in Broadway and film.  01:16 The Power of Teaching The conversation begins with a reflection on the duality of teaching, emphasizing the balance between challenge and joy, and how these elements contribute to personal growth in education.  02:02 Introducing Jonathan Groff and Linda Tuff Erica Halvorson introduces Jonathan Groff and his former music teacher, Linda Tough, detailing their impressive careers and the significant impact Linda had on Jonathan’s education and passion for music.  05:00 First Memories of Collaboration Jonathan and Linda reminisce about their first interactions in the fourth grade, highlighting memorable moments that laid the foundation for their strong teacher-student relationship.  12:11 Fostering a Love of Learning The discussion turns to the importance of fostering a love for learning, with Jonathan reflecting on how Linda’s teaching style inspired his passion for music and education, and Linda sharing her philosophy on creating a joyful classroom environment.  21:20 The Art of Teaching and Preparation Linda discusses her teaching philosophy, focusing on the balance between high expectations and creating a supportive environment, while also exploring the importance of preparation and performance in teaching and life.  35:09 Finding Joy and Building Trust This chapter focuses on the relationship between difficulty and joy in learning, emphasizing the significance of creating a supportive environment, building trust between teachers and students, and embracing discomfort as part of growth.  47:15 The Lasting Impact of Mentorship The discussion reflects on the enduring relationships formed between mentors and mentees beyond the classroom, sharing personal stories about how these connections continue to influence their lives and careers.  55:00 Advocating for the Arts in Education This chapter focuses on the critical role of arts education in schools and the ongoing fight to preserve these programs, urging listeners to support arts education for fostering human connection and creativity.  58:35 Reflecting on the Power of Arts Education In the closing chapter, the speakers summarize key takeaways from their conversation, emphasizing the transformative power of arts education in shaping lives and the importance of high expectations. 

Martin Gutmann is an expert on the history of business and has written extensively about styles of past leaders.  In this episode, he shares his thoughts on everything from today’s political climate, to whether he thinks Ernest Shackleton is overrated (spoiler alert – he does), to the underrated excellence of less well-known figures in history.     Chapters: 02:27 Meet Martin Gutmann  Bill welcomes Martin Gutmann to the podcast, exploring his diverse background and extensive experience in various countries. Martin shares how his journey has shaped his understanding of different cultures and leadership.  04:24 The Role of History in Leadership  Martin discusses how historical insights can inform contemporary challenges, particularly in leadership and management. He emphasizes the necessity of understanding history to navigate present issues effectively.  07:06 Lessons from the Past  The conversation shifts to how past solutions have created today’s problems, with Martin referencing the Industrial Revolution and its consequences. He highlights the importance of learning from history to find modern solutions.  10:11 The Optimism of Youth  Bill and Martin reflect on the idealism of younger generations regarding climate change and sustainability. They discuss how engaging with young people can inspire hope for the future.  14:02 The Qualities of Great Leaders Martin shares insights on the characteristics of effective leaders, emphasizing their ability to envision possibilities that others cannot see. He contrasts this with the qualities of less favorable leaders.  16:11 Reevaluating Historical Figures  The discussion turns to notable historical figures, with Martin expressing a preference for lesser-known leaders who have made significant impacts. He critiques the common narratives surrounding famous leaders like Thomas Jefferson.  20:04 Unseen Leaders and Their Impact  Martin elaborates on the contributions of unseen leaders, using the example of Vasily Archipov during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He illustrates how individual actions can alter the course of history.  27:01 Churchill: The Crisis Manager  Explore Winston Churchill’s complex legacy as a leader during World War II, where he was thrust into a crisis not of his making. This chapter delves into the nuances of his leadership style, contrasting crisis management with the ability to foresee and avoid crises.  35:12 The Unseen Leader: Shackleton vs. Amundsen  Martin Gutmann discusses the concept of the ‘unseen leader’ through the lens of explorers Shackleton and Amundsen. While Shackleton’s dramatic story captivates audiences, Amundsen’s meticulous planning and authentic leadership provide deeper lessons in effective leadership.  42:55 The Challenge of Leadership in Media  In this chapter, the conversation shifts to the media’s portrayal of leadership, emphasizing how crises and scandals often overshadow the quiet, effective leaders. Martin and Bill reflect on the disparity between public admiration for dramatic leaders versus those who exemplify humility and competence.  46:26 A Global Perspective on Leadership  Martin shares his insights on the political climate in Europe and how it resonates with the current events in the U.S. He discusses the resilience of democratic institutions and the importance of good leadership amidst rising concerns about political extremism.  50:01 Optimism in the Next Generation  Ending on a hopeful note, Martin reflects on the optimism he sees in younger generations, highlighting their ability to dream big without the constraints of cynicism. This chapter underscores the importance of nurturing this optimism as a counterbalance to the challenges faced in today’s world.

Blayne Smith and Brandon Young are two US Army combat veterans who came together in civilian life to start their own company.  They’ve now published a new book, co-authors of Perseverance > Endurance: Lead with Resilience. Grow Through Adversity. Win Together., in which they describe invaluable lessons that they’ve learned from their training, the battlefield, and life since their time in the service.    Chapters: 01:04 Introducing Blayne Smith and Brandon Young  Bill introduces the guests, Army Combat veterans Blayne Smith and Brandon Young, who co-authored the book Perseverance > Endurance and discuss their impressive backgrounds and experiences.  04:04 How They Met and Bonded  Blayne and Brandon share the story of how they met after their military service while working at a company that actively sought to hire veterans, highlighting their initial feelings of being out of place.  06:26 Transitioning from Military to Nonprofit  The conversation shifts to their early experiences in the nonprofit sector, where they both contributed to helping veterans transition back into civilian life and the challenges they faced.  10:00 Founding Applied Leadership Partners  Blayne and Brandon discuss the founding of Applied Leadership Partners, a consulting firm aimed at helping organizations navigate growth and adversity through effective leadership.  14:00 The Importance of Leadership in Organizations  The duo emphasizes that many challenges in organizations stem from leadership issues, and they aim to provide practical frameworks to enhance leadership effectiveness.  15:21 Exploring Their Book: ‘Perseverance is Greater Than Endurance’  Blayne and Brandon delve into the key themes of their book, discussing the critical distinction between endurance and perseverance, especially during times of uncertainty.  18:35 Training for Perseverance  The conversation focuses on how to cultivate perseverance, contrasting it with endurance training and discussing practical ways to adapt and grow through challenges.  24:44 The Role of Optimism in Leadership  Blayne and Brandon reflect on the importance of optimism and hope in leadership, discussing how these qualities can inspire teams and foster resilience during difficult times.  30:02 The Power of Perspective  In this chapter, the guests discuss how extending our time horizon can foster optimism, reminding us that difficult moments are temporary. They emphasize the importance of focusing on the mission rather than the discomfort of the present.  33:03 Frameworks for Perseverance  The conversation shifts to the five factors that define perseverance: change, uncertainty, acceptance, choice, and growth. The guests delve into how these elements interconnect and provide a roadmap for navigating challenges.  37:25 Training for Perseverance  Here, the guests explore the role of hope and purpose in developing perseverance, sharing personal anecdotes and insights. They discuss how understanding one’s character and values can guide individuals through tough times.  41:01 Integration Over Balance  The discussion turns to the concept of life integration versus work-life balance, emphasizing the importance of being a whole person in all aspects of life. The guests encourage listeners to manage their energy and presence rather than merely their schedules.  46:14 Facing Challenges with Clarity  In this chapter, the guests reflect on the significance of having a clear mission and priorities during crises. They share a powerful story about a leadership decision made during a critical moment, illustrating the impact of purpose on navigating adversity.  54:03 The Veteran Perspective  The episode concludes with a reflection on the resilience and perseverance of veterans, highlighting their unique experiences and insights.  

This episode explores the work of Echoing Green, an international non-profit that invests in social entrepreneurs and their dreams and ideas.  An accomplished leader and executive herself, Cheryl Dorsey explains how she first came to the organization and the great work they continue to do under her leadership.    Chapters: 02:22 Meet Cheryl Dorsey  Cheryl Dorsey, president of Echoing Green, shares her journey from being a social entrepreneur to leading a nonprofit that supports emerging social innovators.  04:30 The Origin of Echoing Green  Cheryl explains the inspiration behind the name ‘Echoing Green,’ rooted in a William Blake poem that celebrates youth and the potential for change.  06:11 Investing in Young Leaders  Cheryl discusses Echoing Green’s unique approach of investing in young social entrepreneurs, emphasizing the importance of nurturing leadership alongside funding.  09:12 The Fellowship Experience  Cheryl outlines the structure of the Echoing Green fellowship, highlighting the community, support, and resources provided to selected fellows.  11:04 The Importance of Community  Cheryl reflects on the significance of community among entrepreneurs, sharing how Echoing Green fosters connections that help fellows navigate their journeys.  13:34 Addressing Inequality in Funding  Cheryl addresses the challenges faced by underrepresented leaders in securing funding, emphasizing Echoing Green’s role in leveling the playing field.  16:22 Spotting Potential in Social Innovation  Cheryl shares examples of successful Echoing Green fellows, illustrating how the organization identifies and supports innovative ideas that drive social change.  19:55 Qualities of a Successful Entrepreneur  Cheryl discusses the essential characteristics Echoing Green looks for in applicants, including optimism, resilience, and the ability to inspire others.  23:11 Navigating the Selection Process  Cheryl explains the rigorous selection process for Echoing Green fellows, highlighting the collaborative efforts of volunteers to identify promising leaders.  26:01 Finding Hope in Adversity  Cheryl shares her personal journey of optimism and resilience, inspired by the stories of Echoing Green fellows who overcome significant challenges.  29:55 The Battle of Ideas: Social Innovation vs. Populism  Cheryl Dorsey discusses the contrasting ideologies of social innovators and populists, emphasizing the need for resources to empower those who seek to improve society.   30:45 Inspiration from the Next Generation  Reflecting on the potential of today’s youth, the conversation highlights the importance of intergenerational connections and the inspiring qualities of young leaders.   32:47 Hopeful Pessimism: A Realistic Outlook  Cheryl introduces her concept of ‘hopeful pessimism,’ balancing optimism with the recognition of ongoing challenges in social equity.   34:02 Getting Involved: Supporting Social Innovators  Cheryl outlines various ways individuals can support Echoing Green and its mission, from applying for fellowships to volunteering and funding.   36:40 The Power of Mentorship and Community  The discussion shifts to the importance of mentorship and community support for young social innovators, highlighting the role of experienced professionals in guiding the next generation.   38:50 Success Stories: Transformative Impact of Echoing Green  Cheryl shares inspiring success stories from Echoing Green fellows, showcasing how their initiatives have made significant impacts in their communities. This chapter highlights the ripple effects of social innovation and the potential for change.  42:16 Closing Thoughts: The Future of Social Innovation  As the conversation wraps up, both Cheryl and Bill reflect on the optimism that stems from the work being done in social innovation.  

David McCullough got the idea for The American Exchange Project (AEP) after a cross-country trip showed him how diverse and accepting were the people he met.  Today, AEP creates opportunities for recent high school graduates to experience life in a different part of the US, building bridges of understanding and creating lifelong friendships.  It’s McCullough’s hope that these trips will someday be as common for high schoolers as the senior prom.    Chapters: 02:17 Growing Up in a History-Minded Family  David reflects on how his family’s rich history and values shaped his understanding of American identity and the importance of learning from the past.  06:09 Historical Amnesia and Current Divides  Bill and David discuss the current polarization in America, emphasizing the need for historical literacy to navigate complex societal issues.  07:16 A Life-Changing College Experience  David recounts a pivotal trip he took during college that opened his eyes to the realities of education and the deep divides within the country.  14:11 The Birth of the American Exchange Project  David shares how his transformative experiences during his travels led to the creation of the American Exchange Project, aimed at fostering understanding among youth.  16:11 Exploring the American Exchange Project  David explains the mission of the American Exchange Project, which facilitates domestic exchanges for high school students to experience different American cultures.  22:01 Building Bridges Through Shared Experiences  The importance of empathy and understanding is highlighted as David discusses how students learn to see commonalities despite differences during their exchanges.  29:07 Confronting Political Discontent  David addresses the challenge of political polarization, emphasizing the need for respectful dialogue and the role of the American Exchange Project in fostering meaningful connections.  31:12 The Lasting Impact of Exchange  Reflecting on the transformative experiences of past participants, David highlights how The American Exchange Project fosters lasting connections and changes in perspectives. He emphasizes the significance of these exchanges in shaping young adults’ futures.  34:01 Expanding the Model  The conversation shifts to the potential for expanding the AEP model to college students and beyond. David hints at exciting developments in collaboration with universities to create similar experiences for incoming freshmen.  36:10 The Value of Shared Experiences  David reflects on the importance of shared experiences in fostering friendships and understanding among diverse groups. He draws parallels between The American Exchange Project and historical coming-of-age rituals that unite young people.  40:01 Building a Sustainable Future  Discussing the financial model of the American Exchange Project, David explains how donations and volunteerism sustain the initiative. He shares his vision for the program’s growth and its potential to become a staple in American education.  44:35 The Edict of the Optimist  In the concluding segment, David emphasizes the importance of taking action to create positive change, embodying the ‘edict of the optimist.’ The conversation wraps up with a call to support The American Exchange Project and get involved. 

While studying acting in college, Erica Halverson decided that while she loved the theater, being on stage would not be for her.  Instead, she moved into different areas and now is teaching arts education at the University of Wisconsin.  She also hosts a terrific podcast, "Arts Educators Save the World,” on which artists are joined by teachers and mentors to reflect on the transformative impact that these people had on them.    Chapters: 02:49 Meet Erica Halverson  Erica shares her background as a professor and her passion for arts education, discussing her book and her podcast that aim to transform teaching and learning through the arts.  03:57 From Actor to Educator  Erica reflects on her journey from aspiring actor to educator, detailing the pivotal moment when she realized her passion lay in teaching and facilitating creative expression.  09:11 The Competitive Nature of Performing Arts  Bill and Erica discuss the competitive landscape of the performing arts, emphasizing the importance of finding fulfilling roles outside of traditional performance careers.  12:49 The Importance of Arts Education  Erica passionately advocates for the inclusion of arts education in schools, questioning why the arts are often the first programs to be cut during budget constraints.  16:22 The Impact of Standardized Testing  The conversation shifts to the effects of standardized testing on education, with Erica explaining how a focus on reading and math has marginalized the arts and other subjects.  21:05 Arts as a Pathway to Inclusion  Erica discusses how arts education can create inclusive learning environments, allowing students to express themselves and feel welcomed in educational spaces.  22:47 Evaluating Creativity in Education  The discussion highlights the differences in evaluation between arts and traditional subjects, emphasizing the importance of open-ended expression and self-evaluation in the arts.  25:00 Training Future Educators  Erica shares insights on how she prepares aspiring teachers to incorporate arts education into their classrooms, despite the challenges posed by current educational policies.  29:57 The Art of Engagement in Education  In this chapter, Erica discusses the transformative power of arts in education, emphasizing the importance of engaging students in creative experiences amidst the distractions of modern technology.   33:36 Arts Educators Save the World  Erica introduces her podcast, ‘Arts Educators Save the World,’ where she pairs influential artists with their mentors to explore the profound impact of arts education.   37:17 Expanding the Definition of Mentorship  In this segment, Erica shares how her podcast expands the concept of mentorship beyond traditional settings, including relationships formed in higher education and adult collaborations.   41:18 The Ripple Effect of Recognition  Bill and Erica discuss the emotional impact of reconnecting artists with their former teachers, highlighting the importance of recognition in the teaching profession.   46:14 Looking Ahead: The Future of Arts Education  As the conversation nears its end, Erica shares her vision for the future of arts education, expressing optimism about the resilience of creative programs despite challenges.  51:30 The Lasting Impact of Arts in Education  In the final segment, Erica’s passion for arts education shines through as she reflects on the ripple effects of her work. Bill emphasizes the importance of recognizing the mentors who shape successful individuals, reinforcing the idea that the arts play a vital role in personal and professional development. 

When Earl B. Hunter’s son was seven years old, he took him on three-month, multi-state camping.  It was a positive, life-changing experience for them both.  But Earl was struck by the fact that over the entire trip, they saw just one other black family.  As someone who was working in sales in the outdoor industry, Earl saw an opportunity and went on to found the for-profit company, Black Folks Camp Too.    Chapters:   02:01 Earl Hunter Jr.: Champion of Outdoor Diversity  Earl B. Hunter Jr., founder of Black Folks Camp Too, shares his mission to increase diversity in the outdoor industry. He recounts his journey from a corporate background to pioneering efforts to make camping more accessible and enjoyable for everyone.  03:19 Earl’s Awakening to the Outdoors  Earl reflects on his late introduction to the outdoors at age 40, sharing how his professional journey led him to discover the joys of camping.   05:39 The Life-Changing Camping Trip  Earl recounts a transformative three-month camping trip with his son, where they bonded over adventures and music. The trip opened his eyes to the lack of diversity in camping and sparked his desire to create change in the outdoor community.  08:16 The Healing Power of Nature  Earl discusses his belief that the outdoors can unite people across all backgrounds and foster a sense of belonging.  11:43 Understanding Historical Barriers  Earl explains the historical context behind the absence of Black individuals in outdoor spaces, addressing generational fears and systemic barriers.   17:24 Introducing Black Folks Camp Too  Earl introduces Black Folks Camp Too, a business aimed at bridging gaps in the outdoor industry.   21:59 The Business Model of Inclusion  Earl outlines the business model of Black Folks Camp Too, focusing on their outdoor education academy designed for the industry.   25:37 Addressing Deep-Rooted Challenges  Earl discusses how the outdoor industry can tackle systemic challenges by understanding historical context and inviting diverse populations.   30:04 The Importance of Understanding ‘Why’  Earl emphasizes the need to grasp the underlying reasons for the lack of diversity in outdoor spaces before implementing marketing strategies.   32:24 Breaking Historical Barriers  Earl discusses the deep-rooted fears and historical trauma that prevent many Black individuals from enjoying the outdoors.   35:08 Consumer Engagement and State Parks  Earl outlines the consumer marketing strategies his organization employs to ensure that outdoor spaces are ready to welcome new visitors. He stresses the significance of making positive first experiences to foster a lasting connection with nature.  39:43 Changing Generational Patterns  Earl shares his views on the need to involve parents in outdoor activities to break generational patterns of disconnection from nature.   43:30 Unity in the Outdoor Community  Earl introduces the Unity Blaze Way, a concept encouraging individuals to build friendships across racial lines and invite others to experience the outdoors. He believes that shared experiences in nature can foster understanding and unity among diverse communities.  51:29 The Future of Black Folks Camp Too  Earl paints an optimistic picture of the future for Black Folks Camp Too, emphasizing the importance of transferring knowledge and love for the outdoors from older generations to younger ones.   55:02 A Call to Action for the Community  Earl concludes with a heartfelt message urging listeners to support the recovery efforts in Western North Carolina and to engage with diverse communities. His optimism and commitment to inclusion serve as a powerful reminder of the potential for positive change. 

On this month’s installment of “A Bit of Blue Sky,” and in honor of National Optimism Month, host Bill Burke reflects on lessons learned from two years of hosting the Blue Sky podcast. 

Sal Khan is one of the great innovators in education and in this Blue Sky episode, he discusses his book, Brave New Words: How AI Will Revolutionize Education (and Why That’s a Good Thing). He and his colleagues at Khan Academy are well on their way to creating powerful AI teaching assistant called Khanmigo.  At a time when many fear the onset of AI applications, Sal Khan presents an inspiring vision for the future of this technology in the classroom and beyond.    Chapters: 03:19 The Origin Story of Khan Academy  Sal shares the inspiring origin story of Khan Academy, detailing how a simple act of tutoring his cousin evolved into a global educational platform.   09:39 Educated Bravery in AI  Sal emphasizes the concept of ‘educated bravery’ when approaching AI technologies in education. He describes how Khan Academy is adapting its tools to mitigate risks while maximizing the benefits of AI for personalized learning.  12:46 Innovative Learning Experiences  Sal illustrates how AI can create engaging learning experiences, such as conversing with literary characters like Jay Gatsby.   14:55 Engaging with Historical Figures  The discussion turns to the use of AI to interact with historical figures, such as Thomas Jefferson. Sal explains the complexities of addressing sensitive historical issues through AI while maintaining educational integrity.  17:19 The Role of Teachers in an AI World  Sal argues that AI will not replace teachers but rather enhance their roles in the classroom.   21:42 AI as a Tool for Empowerment  The conversation highlights how AI can alleviate the burdens of administrative tasks for teachers, allowing them to focus on meaningful interactions with students.   23:18 Skepticism and Critical Thinking  Sal stresses the importance of skepticism when engaging with AI and other technologies. He encourages students to critically evaluate the information provided by AI, fostering deeper discussions in the classroom.  27:39 Bridging the Economic Divide with AI  In this chapter, Sal Khan discusses the potential of AI to serve as a leveling mechanism in education, especially for those who cannot afford traditional tutoring.   30:01 Navigating the Ethics of AI in Education  Sal explores the ethical implications of using AI in education, particularly in the context of college admissions. He highlights the gray areas of academic support and the fine line between assistance and cheating, stressing the importance of maintaining integrity in the learning process.  33:41 Introducing Khanmigo: The AI Tutor  Sal introduces Khanmigo, an AI tutor designed to enhance the learning experience by providing personalized support to students. He explains its features, such as contextual understanding of lessons and ethical tutoring practices that encourage student engagement.  37:34 Empowering Teachers with AI  In this chapter, Sal discusses how Khanmigo not only benefits students but also supports teachers by alleviating administrative burdens. He emphasizes the importance of improving teacher morale and engagement in a profession facing significant challenges.  39:25 The Path to Implementation  Sal explains the process of integrating Khan Academy and Khanmigo into school districts, highlighting the importance of support and training for teachers.   44:28 The Future of Learning with AI  Sal envisions a future where Khanmigo enhances the educational experience through multimodal interactions and real-time support for both students and teachers.   52:29 Inspiring Innovation in Education  In the closing chapter, Sal reflects on the inspiring innovations at Khan Academy and the positive impact of peer tutoring through Schoolhouse World. He encourages educators to embrace AI as a tool for enhancing the teaching experience and fostering student success. 

Leslie and Richard Strauss are a husband-and-wife team who oversee Spirit Series, an innovative educational program in which young students perform plays about timeless stories.  Through Spirit Series’ immersive and rigorous process, participants gain confidence in themselves and improve their teamwork, higher order thinking and focus in the classroom.  The program has served more than 60,000 students and research shows that it has improved their cognitive and social/emotional skills and even lowered absenteeism in participating schools.  FMI – Spirit Series⁠⁠ website⁠⁠  Chapters: 02:44 Meet Richard and Leslie Strauss  Bill introduces guests Richard and Leslie Strauss, co-directors of the Spirit Series, sharing their backgrounds and experiences in arts education. Their journey begins with personal loss and a desire to help children cope with grief.  07:56 Breaking into Schools  Richard explains how Spirit Series gained traction in schools through word of mouth rather than advertising.   10:29 The Power of Storytelling  The conversation shifts to the significance of storytelling in education, with Richard emphasizing the impact of historical narratives on young minds.   12:05 How the Program Works  Richard outlines the structure of the Spirit Series program, detailing the intensive three-week residency model.   14:22 Casting and Participation  The discussion focuses on the unique casting process of the Spirit Series, where roles are assigned by lottery. Richard shares how this approach fosters inclusivity and allows students to reinvent themselves.  17:01 Engaging Students with Big Questions  Richard discusses the importance of starting each unit with a thought-provoking question. This method encourages students to reflect on their beliefs and engage deeply with the material over the course of the program.  20:09 Creating Community Through Performance  The hosts explore how the Spirit Series fosters a sense of community among students.   22:33 The Role of Teachers in the Process  Leslie and Richard describe how classroom teachers engage with the Spirit Series program. They highlight the collaborative nature of the curriculum and the positive changes it brings to teacher-student dynamics.  25:01 Empowering Teachers with New Curriculum  The conversation shifts to the evolution of the Spirit Series curriculum, which now empowers teachers to implement the program independently. Richard shares the success of pilot programs that have expanded their reach.  28:28 Finding Silver Linings in Crisis  The conversation begins with Richard and Leslie discussing how the pandemic, despite its challenges, sparked creativity and adaptability within their organization.   30:03 Innovating Through Adversity  Richard elaborates on the innovative methods they adopted to engage students in a virtual setting, including the creation of films and storytelling videos.   32:54 The Spirit Series Impact  Richard explains how students not only learn foundational stories but also create their own, enhancing their understanding and personal expression.  34:43 Measuring Success and Growth  Richard and Leslie share the results of their program, emphasizing the positive feedback from teachers and students alike.   37:49 Addressing Absenteeism and Engagement  The conversation highlights the program’s success in reducing absenteeism, as students feel a sense of accountability to their peers.   43:21 Getting Involved with Spirit Series  In this chapter, Richard and Leslie provide insights on how listeners can engage with the Spirit Series, whether by volunteering, donating, or bringing the program to their schools.  

Business school professor and author Amy Edmondson shares her views on how we can make our workplace more productive, enriching, and positive for everyone.  By creating an environment with “psychological safety,” Amy says that organizations allow people to do their best work by not fearing to make the “right kinds” of mistakes and/or speaking up when things go wrong.  Order Amy's book Right Kind of Wrong   Chapters: 01:08 Introduction of Amy Edmondson  Host Bill Burke introduces guest Amy Edmondson, a renowned professor at Harvard Business School, known for her work on psychological safety. 06:50 The Role of Managers in Psychological Safety  The conversation shifts to the role of managers in understanding human behavior and fostering an environment where employees feel motivated to contribute  09:15 Hierarchy and Its Challenges  The discussion delves into the impact of organizational hierarchy on psychological safety, with Edmondson explaining how it can inhibit open communication.   12:25 Creating a Safe Environment for Mistakes  Edmondson discusses the importance of allowing employees to make mistakes and learn from them as a pathway to innovation.   16:30 Navigating Political Divisions at Work  The conversation touches on the challenges of political divisions in the workplace and the importance of maintaining professionalism.   18:01 The Impact of Remote Work on Culture  Edmondson reflects on how remote and hybrid work environments affect psychological safety and workplace culture. She discusses the need for face-to-face interactions to foster relationships and connectedness among team members.  23:41 Exploring the Right Kind of Wrong  The focus shifts to Edmondson’s recent book, ‘Right Kind of Wrong,’ where she explores the concept of failing well.   28:40 Understanding Different Types of Failures  In this chapter, we explore the distinctions between basic, complex, and intelligent failures, emphasizing the importance of recognizing these differences. The conversation highlights how basic failures stem from single mistakes, while complex failures arise from multiple contributing factors.  31:50 The Value of Intelligent Failures  The discussion shifts to intelligent failures, which are the results of thoughtful experiments aimed at innovation. The speakers discuss how organizations can learn from these failures and even budget for them in research and development.  33:49 Learning from Failure: A Difficult Process  This chapter delves into the challenges of learning from failure, emphasizing the emotional aversion many people have towards it.   35:29 Reframing Failure: Insights from Ted Turner  The conversation highlights Ted Turner’s perspective on failure, illustrating how he framed losses as learning opportunities. This chapter discusses the cultural shift needed to embrace mistakes as part of the journey towards success.  36:31 The Role of Optimism in Leadership  In this chapter, the speakers explore the significance of optimism in effective leadership, contrasting it with blind optimism. They introduce the Stockdale Paradox, emphasizing the balance between maintaining hope while facing harsh realities.  41:49 Optimism vs. Realism in Leadership  The discussion continues on the interplay between optimism and realism in leadership, highlighting research findings on how these traits affect team dynamics. The speakers share insights from their studies during the COVID-19 pandemic, illustrating the importance of transparent communication.  44:08 The Future of Business Leadership  As the conversation wraps up, the speakers reflect on the qualities of young leaders entering the business world.  

On this installment of “A Bit of Blue Sky,” host Bill Burke describes five books he recommends that will help listeners be more optimistic (and hopefully, fulfill their New Year’s resolution to do so)!    Blue Sky Bookshelf: Link    Chapters:   00:00 Welcome to A Bit of Blue Sky  Host Bill Burke introduces the podcast and its mission to inspire optimism through engaging discussions. He sets the stage for a conversation about books that can help listeners maintain their New Year’s resolutions.  01:29 Factfulness: A New Perspective  Bill discusses ‘Factfulness’ by Hans Rosling, a book that challenges common misconceptions about the world and highlights the progress we’ve made. He emphasizes the importance of understanding facts to foster a more optimistic outlook.  03:56 The Enlightenment and Its Impact  Next, Bill explores ‘Enlightenment Now’ by Steven Pinker, which reflects on the values established during the European Enlightenment. He highlights how these values have contributed to a more peaceful and prosperous world.  05:31 Humankind: A Case for Optimism  Bill introduces ‘Humankind’ by Rutger Bregman, a book that argues for the inherent goodness of humanity. Through compelling examples, Bregman refutes the notion that humans are naturally violent and emphasizes cooperation.  06:49 The Rational Optimist: A Thoughtful Approach  In this chapter, Bill revisits ‘The Rational Optimist’ by Matt Ridley, discussing how free trade and cooperation have historically led to human progress. He advocates for a rational approach to optimism based on facts.  07:12 The Power of Kind Words  Bill shares insights from ‘The Power of A Few Kind Words’ by Tracy Gates, a book inspired by the author’s father that encourages expressing appreciation through handwritten letters. This practice aims to uplift both the sender and the recipient. 

Neal Foard is an accomplished marketing expert and storyteller. On this episode, Neal describes why, after helping build household name global brands like Budweiser, Lexus, and Sony, he has turned his attention to telling and teaching stories.  He’s inspired by what he describes as the kindness of everyday people and shares personal anecdotes and stories online, hoping others will engage in what he’s calling, “The Conspiracy of Kindness.”  He is also the founder of Storyfire, an online storytelling course.    Here is a link to Neal’s Story, “A Postcard from 1969”  Chapters: 02:16 The Power of Positivity  Neal Foard discusses his belief that there are more good people than bad, emphasizing the influence of media on public perception. He shares insights on how negativity can skew our view of humanity and the importance of focusing on the positive.  10:00 Traffic and Kindness  Using traffic as a metaphor, Neal illustrates how our mindset can shape our experiences with others. He emphasizes the importance of kindness and how adopting a positive outlook can lead to a better day.  14:30 Reflections on 1969  Bill and Neall delve into the historical context of 1969, discussing societal turmoil and its parallels to today. They reflect on how understanding history can provide perspective on current events and the importance of kindness in turbulent times.  20:00 The ROI of Kindness  Neal shares a compelling story about a car dealer who prioritizes kindness over profit, illustrating the long-term benefits of treating customers well. He introduces the concept of a ‘conspiracy of kindness’ and its impact on business.  25:03 The Transformative Power of Travel  In this chapter, the conversation explores how travel can restore faith in humanity by revealing the commonalities among people across different cultures. Neal Foard shares personal anecdotes and insights about how experiences in various places can challenge preconceived notions.  29:03 The Journey of a National Road Trip  The discussion shifts to an exciting national road trip that the speaker is undertaking, motivated by connections made through social media. This journey aims to highlight small businesses across America, showcasing the human interactions that define these local enterprises.  32:47 Celebrating Small Businesses  The speaker shares heartwarming stories from small businesses, emphasizing the personal connections and community spirit that thrive in these environments. This chapter highlights the importance of small businesses in fostering human relationships and driving local economies.  35:03 The Role of Integrity in Business  This chapter delves into the concept of integrity in business, arguing that most businesspeople are honorable and striving to do the right thing. The conversation emphasizes the significance of trust and regulation in maintaining a fair marketplace.  39:32 The Art of Storytelling in Business  The focus shifts to storytelling as a vital skill in business, where effective communication can persuade and influence others. The speaker explains how stories resonate on an emotional level, making them a powerful tool for leaders and entrepreneurs.  46:47 The Impact of Stories on Human Connection  In this final chapter, Neal reflects on the profound impact of storytelling on human connection and the importance of choosing the right narratives. The speaker encourages listeners to consider the stories they tell and how they shape perceptions and relationships.