213 - Mashers and Hatpins
Comedians Gareth Reynolds and Dave Anthony examine turn of the century mashers and the weapons used against them.
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the roads and resurrect a Game seven he only can I do the same joke said it before yeah okay so the eighteen seventies like was that late was that when this goes big yeah okay as when a sign of fever came yang said it was like a real fever back then I got satellite feed the beast and I see now be the punching it up yet better yet which is always rumors that one should always do once they realize the sound isn't where he added they get I think that's a good way to do it yeah okay okay before the eighteen seventies women were mostly never by themselves in public places what I say before I was like Now remember I was in good before this there was a man with them to protect their woman right I think I made a joke about how it's super different now is an image of the foot of the This is mostly of upper class idea right UVA professor and was not rich when or whenever they're not they're not win now they're barely women are poor not a lot of the poor women were widowed or some bad happens to their on their own right and so they would have to go to work or whatever we have to be on the route so they they they were coming not consider part of this equation so the widows are just going to work alone and the danger is that a woman ok keep down well so woman alone at this point the assume that use asking for right now remember this is right around when we got maybe a little the least but below it the implication there is that ad was alone right she was asking for asking for what I guess the question I'll speak for the audience that things happened or interesting so if she's alone that's a signal to go and Trump or eye trouble a truck bomb masters would claim they were justified because a woman was walking about alone with because this is this is new so that you mention must be loose ok couple of solo lady is a loosely couple red flags are sticking out in our masters ok masters please tell me that comes from like bourbon mash or something okay so there there were I didn't I didn't use the definition of matches because there were three places that supposedly came from one was two comedians were doing a show and they went backstage and this and want them said I mashed them and the other guys said was that which it did to the ladies you mash them and then and then that that phrase caught on and mash or was born so they had hacks pectin to the taxes done in green rooms there's also a French word that similar to that may have come from him and I remember the room but there are three different versions of work what does it mean in this mashup get into okay I'm not liking what I'm hearing so far right when I would imagine to court the mash was often fined for using inappropriate language ok for instance five dollars for common woman for calling a woman a chicken or twenty five dollars for calling her acuity lol ok weird really weird aye Pacific were defined edges pretty interesting and a chicken is negative I yeah I thought complement cost you more yeah you're not supposed to complement single it on the street but the of the car and dragged him to complement their ass give Laura a man was not supposed to approach a woman on the street told real and total no no no your masters the point where the minimum as a mash mash or approaches a woman alone yeah mash or you just going to and talking to or you're you're a master at that point and that's bad well then yeah now it's I don't think it's bad they didn't like you you you you pretty make my things feel weird just go to coffee that's totally fine does that say I is that why do you think that's fine one could be fined for just speaking to a woman alone on the street got regardless of the language it was just not a WOW then as the Industrial Revolution came into being women left the rural areas and moved to cities and this gave them the chance to go out on their own more often I write summonses and say something you want to talk the ladies wanted to be chaperones everywhere or sit in the house they actually would have preferred they did have to peel the side the head feeling and emotion yet I believe I believe they were human beings I mean it goes against one I think yeah okay so with this newfound freedom came harassment was much more difficult to harass ladies in a small town imagine they're like You know what we actually do want to be chaperone now that I was seeing what it's like without it turns out it's looking that good approaches at a market bag buy backs yet to go chaperone yet he was much more to do well to her oscillating the small town because everyone knew everyone else but there is an anonymity in cities in eighteen seventy five and one of them and look like you said something GM am what I look like the right look and am looking for a man is talking to women which way to go and what we say in eighteen seventy five near Times article scolded man for how they were treating women getting on and off street cars men would quote passer in and pass are out putting hand on her waist or shoulder turns out women were not into being handled by strange men she sae measures had all sorts of techniques one of the more common one was for the master to drop a letter he was hiding in his pocket at the post office and then ask a woman if she had by chance dropped a letter to God what a weird i use you as you drop the letter that followed for the lead to drop again Are you sure that's not because I don't think it is him on Chacon you share my more and then the ideas they pick it up and you check them out and talk to them talk to him Oh you like love letters the letters tell you what the is the connection well I don't know I did the validity either I hate letters the fourteen new punk i Azam you dropped all of the pocket maybe maybe try to grab them o You make my fun parts feel weird want to get coffee other articles discussed whether women can walk around alone it was largely accepted that women should not meet men on the street where he could turn out to be a match or a lady was to wait to be introduced by a friend or relative this is going to take forever I mean I'm not I'm not on the side of grabbing waste when they're coming off the trolleys but the idea that the only way you can meet someone is like with an intraday proper agent we vetted him he's ready to meet you now I'm super excited thank god we had friends in common you make my parts few weird lah but its actually my body it was Angela smashes were all over street corners on Saturdays which was considered quote the principal flirting day of the week yeah mash today men would just stand around insulting women as the eye the ash in the match I'm tired from Azure last night ladies a good AB out it is the right of the era of the DoD matches at you letting Z and I got a pocket full of that is usually manageable as you did you'd rather let us give the lady above the law all of you with that I drop the bicycles were invented I became the rage in the eighteen nineties the Masters took to riding around insulting and assaulting well but talking to them is considered right okay it was easier to write also it so much more intimidating now to have like with the bike you can come to circle the Beacon yeah kind of shark that for a little bit the company needed to drop all that a miss don't be weary they will ISO levels around half the job but I looked like and let a tornado hit right over here surely one of these thousands of letters but it was easier for them to write or say something naughty and then speed off it made your prey the journalist described the bicycle measures of New York City quote He is always dressed in the pink of fashion or what he regards as such his eyes are roving and the mobility of his face as a whole is striking his head at a weather vane action which is helpful to him in his maneuvers he delights in writing hands off and with one foot on the paddle blade is guys asking for it so he's got owl head according to the whole article yet know he's got three sixty vision effect has been his head around and he goes hands often one from the penalty maybe now he sounds alley he has a charismatic way of slowing down whenever he needs a wheel woman young or middle age he thinks might be outraged by the tension and he's always able to dismount with grace so that is so are the masters are they just looking to upset the women I think I think that it's a combination I think some are looking to upset them I think others are thinking maybe if I purchase they shall be loosened or via the Ryanair okay but I think a lot of it's just upset them but they're probably a lot of lonely dude out there to know to be sure to me it feels like they're definitely trying to get laid but it's in there's just no real option so they're almost like kamikaze pilots who are just like there were no pickup artists guidelines at this point well there's one have a letter have a letter in your pocket right beside that I meet Stacy oh yeah why I convinced her that she dropped Olathe The Batman I I know I wrote that letter like a sociopath now you have two kids from me speakers became a favorite of measures to approach women young ladies boarded a streetcar in New York to get away from two masters but the men followed them and sat next to them one cares K scenario mobile gnashing one kept nudging one his elbow and the girls became more and more scared and one finally jumped off the moving car to get away ok the men were then arrested I sat as okay as it's just for giving Amelia a minute so if you're on I got me to give her the elbow such as the seat my blog has news on Tony well I see no reason to prosecute this man he's just got all wobbly jello sometimes that can have it no to have people sit on your left ok damn good is his boob around it especially you know into that familiar with the term talking yourself out of a sale or other little pussies alright i'm actually heavily redacted but as an earlier and you are getting fides immediate Washington said pig poses I modestly contempt of court without question the Hell's happening I was is about to let this guy go in New York on the L train there is an older mash around sixty who would harass women on the way to work having mash in voting when he found her and one woman heard him quite excuse me ma'am did you drop that last one woman heard him quietly whisper in her ear that don't know new VC be arrested now his job lightening or I I ah he continued to pay or column in the ogre oh when she tried to move way he linked his arm in hers and held her captor there she finally struggled and got away when she told the story at work to other women said they've been harassed by the exact same match up the cereal mashed pear VP matches would even drop off mash or notes random ass wait what if Florida who moved to the city of cholera and within six hours he received a note from Azure at the boarding house she was residing in Chicago a Frenchman sent a note a respectable young woman asking if they could meet she took the note to the Chicago Tribune who printed it and called him publicly a mash or play so they are leaving letters not like this is now like a dream and romantic my turn so this is what went down a guy wrote a letter he's from France is like hello I would like to meet you no diversion mass and then all the sudden it's in print in the Chicago Tribune of like a French pop star is in my home and that was just that communicated between you and me and just like to me in the article made fun of his blond mustache and hair calling him an albino some tough beats trying to be nice to a ladies the next thing you know you public freak he sued the paper for twenty thousand dollars That's rats New York dealt with the mash or problem for years the police had done there is still dealing with them and yet rugged and private citizens rose on alert but it went on across the country editorial after editorial discussed the matter problem and offered solutions they included everything from demanding harsher punishments to saying masters should be beaten in the St ok but questions are always pointed toward the victim as well what was she doing there why was she wearing that Danielle a matching outfit yes you get on the page got to the spoiler choose where it could oh she's walking a large is as if our A affiliate the Philadelphia newspapers demanded you drop those last few of these bare assed quote he will often not speak to a woman who offers him no encouragement it is manifest that the girls are to blame for his presence upon the streets let them lay aside their dashing bold this and manner which they often foolishly imagined denotes independence but which is as dangerous as it is unseemly it is a little messy for them to try to be independent that is kind of sending the right thing all agree women should be outside yeah I think obviously they've entered the real world you know they're in the locker room now thank you tyres are you just set foot in the locker room well come to the locker room and then there is just the sound of the locker closing oh no that made God the locker room Carol ride and save yourself time in the locker room graduate you can have some of those debt tax were in the locker room is solely City Paper wrote quote As a rule the well behaved girl is free to come and go as she pleases secure from the noxious looks remarks especially women began to fight back physically in eighteen ninety five in St Louis miss Mabel putt off was working at the exposition with her sister a master came by and started speaking to them I love that guy who just racist talk of conversation is a match it's very confusing as to what the line is because there's no doubt in my there's no line there's no doubt in my mind of man are extremely creepy and has a lot of these guys are totally creepy yes but then by the same token it is just it's just hard to wrap your head around a society can't sleep you can't talk to someone so I think the deal is is the is that so your sexy because of society's rules you are essentially a creepy if you do this anybody who crosses that boundary is what today would be a guy who would go grab some assassin like a like our future president for your present right Hillary Clinton right big ass grabber hee so I think that I think that just because he's breaking that norm that he already is a creepy guy Ryan wouldn't do it make sense it makes sense but there's also like there had to be like like speakeasy zz but of like hitting on people where it was like going to a place in ages like now you understand where that match tonight and you're going to like using this site don't give me the letter trick here you don't need to hum a real conversation so I wasn't even introduced by a friend of the oh so this woman Miss Mabel puff was working the exhibition with the sister of the measure comes up and start speaking to them and they ignored him but he continued talking so they left and went back to work then the master shot of there and began talking to them again this is crossing the mash line yet he then asked Mabel if he can have a hat pin or quote anything to remember you by she punched him in the face although that's a Memento and then she kept punching a crowd gathered to watch and he finally ran off she just kept punching is always good in Norfolk Virginia two sisters Ida and Shaw run a car when a man started making quote goo goo eyes at them had their game yeah good it so they move I know that I the so they moved on the car and he followed as he approached them they jumped up and gave him quote a severe punching with their fists great I had a great era of Miss Josie Sanchez was a rather large woman who was described by a newspaper as Amazonian cool good time for the press sheet of red walking to a theater in San Cisco any measure said something offensive Sanchez recognize the man as he had done this several times before and he was small much smaller than she was so she picked him up and threw him through a store window oh yes dynamite jazz died of my eye the the she was arrested for malicious mischief and paid fifty for the damages to the store which she said it was worth it totally worth it over that yet that is that's the last time you get mashed and if you don't want yet the last time in Ohio Miss Frank Gilbert be a mash unconscious on the streetcar eager of re tear up when she was done all the passengers applauded well that and but women didn't just use their fists they also started using weapons first women began beating mm matches the parasol but that was nothing compared to what was coming in Wilkes Barre Pennsylvania there was a well known mash or the police had received complaints about him he had a favorite street corner that he would hang out on his M O is to drop the handkerchief when a woman walk by and say Oh Miss You have jumped or handkerchief so really it was just kind of a spin on the Letter Game really seems like the pattern was whatever it was Angie job something I miss you jump your dog out I haven't done a lot to go out in a day eats eventually for one women came of the D A plan to deal with one woman was used as bait to lure him down the street when using the right place the three other woman stepped out with cow hide whips all I think also of The Man With No Name yeah yeah they whipped him and he tried to fight back punching one of the woman he was that punch from behind knocked down and whipped more eventually got up ran off bleeding from several cuts on body home an okay one of them at the end of them Ashleigh that's what I got a new quarter at Lee's dad's episodes of the area I'm going to start dropping pans a mage is going to a new corner totally injured his nano year job few bankers results of blood to your teeth oh no she said sorry girls you are doing I gotta get the dregs of Gitmo is really dropping migraine jobs are rare in Chicago in eighteen eyes a street car when a measure pressed his knee against or he she was wearing the the shoes wearing a silk belt fastened her on her skirt with a long steel pan she ripped the pan out and stabbed him in the leg interesting he screamed in pain and ran off the streetcar she wiped the blood off the pan with a handkerchief as everyone on the car laughed it's great it's also it's both a time of violence and lack of humanity yeah but it is like if it's good that there's public support for women to be able the like just you know like that they're breaking the rules do whatever and you'll stop them it's got to be like a free for a moment when you can throw guy through a store window front of a grand I would become the weapon of choice happens became more and more popular beginning in the fifties women wear straw hats and started using happens to secure them as the styles of has changed so did the pins hat pins became longer and decorated the height of hat pins was from eighteen and nineteen thirty five that's when the bonnet strings with the way of oil and hair styles got more crazy there are more elaborate and up swept women used artificial hair pieces to help hold on and happenings ok many now think just like at busy using them as silver but also copper sometimes gold ol' boy in the eighteen eighties they were six to eight inches long but in the eighteen nineties as the size of ladies has got bigger and bigger each time a bird on a hat pins got bigger and bigger as we get into the nineteen hundreds happens grew up to twelve inches lol shit that's alone have done the hats are so big it was a hair sword yeah okay has for so big it was not uncommon for women to have a dozen hat pins holding one up as Wolverine be like Daddy and I see in saying they were designed to look like flowers leaves bugs and were set with diamonds and other stones like emeralds she's crazy but I made starting way they could be used for all sorts of things that turned out in West Philadelphia a nice man asked a woman if he could use her happened Iceman guy so nice a guy not like a Batman villain in the know ok guys is Iceman and then the Silver surfer also ask for an ice pick was the zipper there yet again so I smashed a user happen because his partner had taken their acts of the St she obliged and he is the hat pin to chip off a piece of ice over the ice Turner he told her he usually carried happend to use on the eyes but his wife had pouted and forgot to give it back nurses are also known user happens to chip of ice to use on patients with fevers these are ice picks well that just shows how a series of business they are I mean there no nudge up they're not talking yet are not breaking hat pins are dangerous in this metro since Can't Run Pennsylvania moved to avoid a streetcar and fell hard on the pavement she had cuts on her head shoulders and back she was taken to hospital but seem to be most upset that she lost her happy and interesting when she returned home she felt the sharp pain in her right hip avoid looking at it she discovered the hat pin was imbedded in her head silly maybe that's just deep inside of me foolish me of the caught the surge is Dave and my boss the owner the concern because the hat pins were so large they stuck out of hats could do serious damage to someone's face when he was going on the Trenton Evening Times as having cactus head walking around town the Trenton Evening Times wrote in February nineteen o eight quote one sees them in twos and threes miniature rate here's a flashing with the most deadly threats at the human eye why the hat pin must be of such
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