219 - The Terror of 1741

219 - The Terror of 1741

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Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the New York City terror of 1741

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point for point deficit to beat you up but I don't talk about talking about social media now know that I think it is one of those things where you don't know what to say I mean you know it's crazy it is everything they know the truth to not listen to the people that actually called on those people yelling to the government is listening itself up enough no the government is not as if they would listen to this dua Gulf up it's a strange new time everyone enjoyed it we got we got together he so where'd the Jr eight He lied wise to guess I should say that I will be at the lawyer comes to December tenth and eleventh but then I will not be going to St Louis and I will not be going to Dallas at Lee was playing house together and I don't believe that the term for anywhere near one hundred acre fire or not at all you no longer state should play by going to be this weekend though same school cobs with Greg Grant Friday Saturday and then we have our live doll it's the twenty fifth twenty six and twenty seven Portland Seattle San Francisco did on podcast dot com to get information how to get those tickets will Anderson Madison will be supporting this a support act these are supporting him he'll be there and we will crush crush crush of an absolute Russia that's the general feeling pressure to marry men about how bad things can be the the little moments if you need a moment to see that we've done this before you know an email survey book coming out called the United States of absurdity true that you can order on Amazon all over us a good dollop podcast common there's a link to a purer that book he surely doesn't have to be burned in the next fifty years and we might all up it great that they don't know the dogs a few things at the same could still guide dog has no idea food still good ally cats I'd still buy a damn Daddy what happened in the real world Morse catch Y Okay you're a young age that is a personal message or people are getting a threat in the streets people are being harassed it's your know it's no longer acceptable to watch that and not do anything yet it is is unacceptable if it happens as a group you go after that person those people need to be shut down I think that's totally okay no more watching are standing by the ruins on the frontline January seventeen o eight ok Mr. William Howard Junior and his pregnant wife and their five children were murdered while they slept in their home in Newton Long Island this is a started hot this is the locker room right eye I was aggressive the Day two of his slaves were tried found guilty so I managed to save I was intrigued well you don't think that relationship is often pretty you know this is problematic when you can quit your job I'll I mean I guess that such a good way of putting it that is such a nightmare which new job so you do you like fucking in one of Miramar yacht was wrap this shit up justifiable they were then executed along with two alleged accomplices to the slave woman was burned burned alive at the stake oh yeah the man was quote hung from the get to know that is okay but it sounds terrible terrible sounds like its cousin the case hung from a given place astride a bar of metal with the shirt and sharpened edge in which condition he live for some time wait sorry so he's hung from something and then he put right beside a very sharp increase in metal of the day also hang beside him and in a state of delirium which ensued believing himself to be on horseback know he would urge forward his animal with the frightful on to note that word is of a maniac while the blood oozing from his last rated Flash streaming from his feet to the ground so they put up in this thing on then he slowly went crazy in and going crazy they knew that he would come up with a reason to engage the sad thing that would kill him so they basically like below right below him or above or beside him whatever but he's like kicking a horse is like hitting a horse riding on it right or get lao that is crazy so it didn't work out for him the Assembly of New York Province crackdown passing an actor for preventing the conspiracy of slaves judges would sentenced to death any slave who is guilty of murder or attempted murder the method of execution was left up to the judge that school is fun it's like a game show mandatory sentencing but you get to like have fun lock of the hour got diao this didn't stop a slave revolt in seventeen twelve in about twenty five slaves set fire to a building in New York and then waited for whites to rush in and put it out at least nine whites were killed and seven wounded so the little building on fire and then just the knowing White Russian drop in the arson with a side of murder right I saw this item or soldiers were sent to put the rebellion down and the slaves were driven into the woods they try to survive the food or water or proper clothing for that fire which usually Nicholas great food to water water actually go let's go Number one water some family gave up others shot themselves are slit their own throats arguably giving up I think all given quitting ok also quitting the phrase some physically gave up and others completely gave up each other's really gave up was super game given up yeah me too I have fifteen Amo James New York than crack down on slaves jailing over seventy in two weeks some of them or even from New York and had been outside the city when they were grabbed a little confused so they're resting slaves for what twenty five slave gathers twenty five Now villages around slaves but then if you're resting slaves in New York that's where happen right so so there I mean they're assuming and probably rightfully so on some level that the twenty five didn't have help right right so they're assuming that there are others there you know just arresting they're just rounding up okay look there's doubt there's a problem may be far more than a hundred years much less in two thousand more than a twenty one slaves were then executed under the new law the governor a quote some were burned or hanged one broke on the wheel and one Hong live in chains in the town so that there has been the most exemplary punishment inflicted that could possibly thought of just month we are just monsters I How can a man how is that ever how was that ever something that like so was I blame you know those little things you have unknowingly pull the string in the the pop party poppers the covers I feel like at the end of this he shut the party popper and then one guy behind like Lerner with the governor did stop a lot of these seventy from being killed as he was convinced they had done nothing wrong so he actually there is justice in this weird world of non justice for the kill if you haven't yet but so the seventeen twelve or vote cast a long shadow that led to Pennsylvania making it more difficult to import slaves and Massachusetts Pam New York mean educating slaves forbidden under the ice you maybe you are just teaching that man boy oh yeah I would like him to help with the children get about here no more teaching him you forget everything he just told you have to do with a barn fire that sent beat the shit out of a what yet both of them be dumb that'll teach you to try to teach him pull on teaching you and don't you pick up a lesson from this are you not to learn any new facts they said that because quote It would be a means to make a slave more coming after two with the wickedness or just reading that he should be owned get knowledge know we can have knowledge is power and you know that always works yeah the lace that a permanent solution and the state Assembly passed an act requiring anyone who freed his slave to post a two hundred dollar bond guaranteeing that the freed man would never become a trouble maker so basically my country free a slave you have to put down a deposit that he won't become an asshole he promised and newly freed slaves were not allowed to own property but more rebellions would come in the seventeen thirty slave uprisings broke out rebellion in South Carolina led to twenty five white people being killed then in seventeen forty rumor spread through New York that slaves had plans to murder their masters by poisoning the water supply new Yorkers started buying water from street vendors ok so this is by the way this this to return because this is actually just a bottle I miss about Fuji maybe a Nestle in yet just gets it honestly it's just like just like we didn't have enough shit on our plate then like they fired the chef I in seventeen forty one New York had a population of twelve thousand two thousand of whom are slaves angle is fighting in Spain rumors of slave plots were everywhere and to make things worse the winter of seventeen forty to seventy forty one was bad so bread was hard to come by and food and everything was expensive misery was everywhere people began to express dissatisfaction with the government everyone was tense everyone was worried new York was a tinder box and then came bottled water if ever seventy forty one Someone broke into the tobacco shop of Robert Hogg stole items including several silver coins took a hike said the seller and Christopher Wilson who everyone knew like to hang out with blacks had to see Hogg counting coins ok know what to do yeah this guy hangs out with black people he saw her counting the money clearly it being a shop no one knew yet coins of the guys song know now businesses don't often have that question Wilson how will I pay for oh I never thought about that he will be new gong and take this time all the money Wilson admitted that he is told to slaves about the coins right of the story is this guy sailor goes into tobacco shop he sees a lady counting coins and then he goes and with a couple slaves and I saw lady counted points of telephone Wilson also said he had gone to a Tavern the day after the burglary and see those same two slaves in season Prince escape and go out with a hat full of coins another way there wish we had money to buy wallet so for the story's Super Plaza yeah there's no way Wilson stalls yet I know have coins the sleigh they keep the coins and a half there are very strange no one tell them what wallets are they arrested John Hughes and owned the Tavern where the slaves see before they had coins are happening the couple just a couple of slaves with a hat full of koi ni the bar yet in the seventeen hundreds nothing to see here folks uses a cobbler they need to invent records to make them scratch the use and was a cobbler who had moved to America but could make a living with his chosen profession so I open it at the Tavern was where blacks sellers prostitutes and other of the lowly people to a respectable New Yorkers didn't like the place and especially when things were tense is that unlike videos people hang out together and talking right after seventy two at lunch out and that's where ideas come from right to them this is where the poor whites and blacks could conspire against them right anyway Houston was held for a while and his Tavern was searched and they found nothing that's when seventeen year old Mary Burton got involved she was the seventy year old Irish indentured servant of Houston always a fun position on the bar owners seventeen year old and we talked with the slaves themselves yet set point and shoots or two in turn slaves yeah she probably was fucking bought or brought every Tuesday and she's been no rights with this guy who maybe banger chair and way she put a tree that well or partial or whole lot her whole the place and calling whole heart and not on her body though for the time in a hole which hurt ego may tell someone she knew about the thefts and was brought in for questioning she said she was scared of Houston and was then given protection by the authorities at that point she could talk freely she said he said often took a stolen goods from slaves and she said Houston's wife knew everything and his daughter and a prostitute named Peggy Carey She's tonic sure she's talking with very seventy s and deny the accusations and said his servant Mary was just making trouble for me eventually marry directed the constables to a big pile of stolen goods carried it ever writes these incriminating stage yup the city of York was becoming very nervous and upset about the story Mary Burton went before a grand jury to testify about the Houston's all jurors that time are made of landowners and rich peeps that's when a fire broke out in the city and then another the fires brought back memories of seventeen twelve many of the players were not related to the players back met write so little children of parents actual people who slave same slaves all that stuff there are fires it for George Warren's house and Van Zandt storehouse in these reminded everyone of the farthest are not fans and storehouse he would just get going because guitars contacts and piles of music gosh yeah I was excited to hear half of the coins play those guys are great so I was reminded of the fire that started the seventeenth over a billion up everyone the prosecutor started pressuring Mary to say anything she knew about the fires of self alright so as we left her yup finally she said the fires were a conspiracy between blacks and poor whites to burn down New York finally is an interesting starting point but the prosecutor wanted more information so he threatened to put her in jail if you keep talking day six of a prosecutor but is actually like the town rectory and I wanted to because it's the best so he fed supporter Jeff doesn't keep talking okay so she's already made up shit snow she's really getting out is like a really good it is and this is the original making a murder so she talked she charged us sae the slave Caesar prints see the imprints and Houston's and the prostitute Peggy Kerry with plotting to burn down York City OK but it's lotion well it's a material girl but she threw that Peggy was sleeping with Caesar for good measure rights and I was away leaving a bike a unbelievable unbelievable Sarah Houston was thrown in jail with her nursing baby that's a pretty picture it It's nice that I will say this it's nice that we shifted away from making the kids go with the parents and the eye seems like that was a no brainer but it's good to know that eventually curb it we've made some great strides in foil I was just a baby my mom fact that yeah I what's this on my my place I like her whole excuse me excuse me just holding ground God also a play no he loves that he plays there all day he's happy he loves the toy of the whole yeah he loves the moon yet the toilet hole that the all the toilet and play hole so they kept pushing Mary and she talked more shit into slaves quack and coffee so okay now that we've got two more of the names the high is there any way to be less respectful of the names you're giving them maybe I don't know why these and how I honestly don't even know how that work of coffee is I think was I believe I recall reading this was based on a version of it after ok now quack is just like abortion the question is that the project may want to say she says they were whacked me what to say the plan was to burn this city down hill all the white people oh not all of them all the way men and after going to set up a new government were Houston would be a king and the white women were to be given out to the black man you know as far as plans go it's aggressive it's aggressive it's an ambitious plan simply a new government gains scans are interesting and you know it's going to create a racial city that for sure is way richer by the way how great is it that they're like Can you believe it the idea of race is going to control us like that no rights living in a world like that the nerve I know they can't be talking to the grand jury found cause for for a trial might share Caesar and prints for the first to go on trial they were quickly convicted in the theft case ok on May eight they were sentenced to death as instill doubt thou shalt not steal that's I guess this was tablets has to be true he wasn't kidding around with no natural that with ozone even his words I would imagine you know that they play the stiffer price for being black and white view I would imagine how did they plead to being black that's a good question not guilty the next day seven Barnes caught fire the city well oh no two blacks were seen running and were caught and were burned at the stake right there or will do this here again what an insane thing to be like I don't like fires led him on fire whether that happens while they're doing a grand jury yet right yeah yeah some stuff we cut corners on other things we do the right way we had to find them guilty in the field honor to this point the City speech on budget crazy Caesar prints will get under arrest for running from fire to can happen I was scared well then you're going to die my fire weird twist Caesar and Princess were hanged on me eleven until the final moment both men denied any knowledge of a conspiracy because of this so called stubbornness Caesar's body was hung in chains for public display I didn't know it well then we your body up for a long time I didn't move world like Are you comfortable walking by a hanging body no matter what the limits of messages like an aside it's like hey don't forget we're recycling as much possible or like it is a drought on it's like that except that it's a dead guy sure okay right so it's like drippy the drought are saying now is always here when I'm saying is banners Beckman right ok so this is a band sure sure what to do her right hand or right it's a matter on April six and a fire at the elites A's storehouse this time spotted just as it started and now vigilantes are roaming the city attacking the black man who was unfortunate enough to be out the press has reported many people had quote many people had such terrible apprehensions and indeed there was cause sufficient that several Negroes who are met in the street after the alarm of their rising were hurried away to jail and when they were there they continued some time in confinement before magistrates could spare time to examine into their several cases however for why they came there so just fucking locking up Black Keys now yes and then when seeing if there and then saying if they're guilty or Fe where yeah yeah whatever that's the right order to process these are just this is also complicated by the fact that they're locking up white guy's property right right yes it was a girl essentially they're they're taking away a guy to do is own yeah is proper does a job right so it's it's I think everyone's getting really freaked out intense big nor the fact that slaves helped put out the first fire at the Van Zandt storehouse that you could be in the Just sure but maybe there is reason to to the fires occurred on the anniversaries of the days that the seventeen twelve plots were hatched okay okay go get local comp ah ah and the fires attack property owned by the most prominent members of the court party which is like the jury or the people involved in the prosecution okay authorities ordered the militia to keep the city under watch every night for the next three months twenty five men would patrol from dusk till Dawn quack was now being interrogated he was one of the slaves Mary heads said was in on it and he had been seen Her heard he had been seen heard seen and heard seen the song reminiscing the fire scorched scorch a little damaged by and by look so he just couldn't use in guilt a guilt and twenty N J on how he she like shit shit ton stupid or he's super cocky I still even to get fierce stupid you know that you can't do that he might just be like super badass or it's just a lie right maybe ok so when they interrogated he said the song was about a recent legal victory he was singing this song is I mean come on the things you've got to you've got just think it how that's what he said the song was about a recent naval victory by Admiral Vernon in the war he knows the world the world the white people you're around don't have time for rationale column This is bullshit it's total it's total bullshit but you're playing a game of bullshit get his play the oboe I mean you got like you can't you know I can go they would be like evoking Trump's name like just walking down the street in certain areas here's the thing because it actually did match at Dover and victory in the war be released and I'm completely shocked though the prosecutor didn't believe a word of it he was certain the city slaves trying to start something because of the rebellion of seventeen twelve he took whacks song to mean the slaves are rejoicing over the fires he's also very obsessed with a laugh quack was said to have let out at the end of seesaw crash the the the is the name ay ay ay ay are the little duck friends and I that write back as Sarah neighbor eleventh the Common Council convened and the prosecutor made his case the council offered a reward of a hundred pounds anyone reveal who the men were right so I find these firefighters they basically they're like come sell eyes for a hundred pounds yep they then conducted a search of all the houses in the entire town people are stopped at intersections and not allowed to move from them until the search is over the fucking shut down the town and they searched all the houses there hoping to find a stranger up to no good or some evidence or even stolen goods but none of that happened to slaves arrested for having goods improper and unbecoming the condition of slaves so they were arrested for having things that slaves should and yet nice things these are too nice of you going to jail sorry what is this old boy took a nice ole found the spoon this is too late says Yeah yeah you guys yell for the that five spoons any changes to be using them and what's the poster on her wall yeah Joe am oh so quack and coffee were arrested and put on trial prosecuted separately on charges of conspiracy and arson but wait didn't listen clack just think the prosecutors just got a bug up his ass and he's OK to laugh yet has had no defense lawyers crazy laughing at the defense lawyers juries are made up of landowners whose properties doubt being destroyed or threatened well I mean did they ask if anyone was bias that's true sure they didn't I my body going down why would I be bias given e blast guilty I mean no insult
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