223 - The Night of Terror
Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine what happened when suffragists stopped fucking around.
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to the This is the bi weekly American History podcast each week I gave Anthony a story from American history to my friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about so is re not dripping in how wise is selling is dripping in it just hit isn't just hitting sills out this site do you think sounds like a train experience rain but that rain sounds like it's dripping in your house set think what you're getting there is a lottery it's raining loudly it's not ringing loudly that's not what's happening right there it sounds like it's hitting something right there yes your floor right and you see that there's no water on the floor lies UCC a ton of water over their lies yeah okay as in the rights to the citizens not Gary Garrett Dave ok someone or somethings to the heart and this is not going to come into Glee Club yet the Queen's they give me that town all the way to ship the bell a bunch of religious virgins to mingle and do but pray December seven the flapper is at seven thirty to seven night that tend to be at the Ahoy comes to eighteen seventy true and I'm set you are eighteen seventy two when I got Maddie are sniffling guys was a guy is mad about empathy and empathy for their confidence after fighting for years to get the fuck back at the are you sir was doing in your mouth after five years to get the women the vote Susan B Anthony was invited to ride in the Pullman car the California senator Aaron a sergeant on a backwards along right across the country is Sarge his wife Helen Clark had long been active in the suffrage movement in California and she thought of her husband met the commencing Anthony she might have an effect and it worked the two not only became friends but Center sergeant became a suffrage advocate trying to slip provisions for the women's vote into unrelated bills in Congress so this guy just won a road trip but the Susan B Anthony started out thinking at the beginning either a chip thing thing that women shouldn't by the end it was like No but it was a long long right yeah I mean yeah like the train bike they would their DJs have to stop for snow for a fashion week like this Finally six years later he just went for it and in January eighteen seventy eight introduced a constitutional amendment to give women the vote cut but just sat in committee for years it was finally considered by the Senate in eighteen eighty seven and rejected in a sixteen to thirty four vote this began a decades long period known as the doldrums right the M was not looked at again and women had few successes in their fight during that period some do not think there was any point in allowing women to vote after all they had no understanding of politics and it would just lead to them voting the way their husbands told them to anyone exactly it's just it's too much for the same person writes the Eye doubling vote for no purpose yeah I do love how that's the thing actually makes very little sense if that were to be the case then there's probably zero argument against it right because you're basically just get everyone gets an extra bow is essentially say the others took a more reasoned stance saying that if women got the vote they would take over the government I would shatter revolution could think for one min like can't you just be satisfied one of the makers where where you're right you're white the US is life in America here's a game that it what the automakers were you drawn as they put the flag warm on the flat whom how is that even a function not of man love not a real the good wound yes and talking bad it'll take forever will take it down was stronger than that of you giving women the vote I'm waiting for the rest of this because it feels like there's nothing I did end up in Lord if I give women the right to vote then then what you know the idea bad things like What was the uterus thing okay that's irrational or not happening next warm zone flag it out that's the same one get out I get out and if you say wolves on flags again periods get get out there periods demonstrate how the email the bow tie I'm thinking about it was voting don't say is the same know because I know for a group ailments treated the same time but what if that happens on voting day how do you know that women's cycles sync and yet you're worried that they're going to turn the voting booth into the shining some time travel for obscure facts get OUT get OUT get OUT OF HERE then things heated up in nineteen ten as women had success in states like Washington California The Western States run board and state legislatures pass legislation or voter referendums giving full or partial but to women ok so the western states are kind of like presenter part partial birth abortion oh cool Google a partial vote I don't know what a partial moon is the only vote on for say one thing yeah yeah probably nothing of importance right you oh I know you can vote on the You can vote on the color we're going to paint a church you get to vote on prop fifty one which is should we or should we not put a woman the flag and believe me you didn't know which way your vote a vote of course Addie voting ballots at here yes problem you can also vote you'll get flowers in I I Okay nineteen twelve election saw the rise of the Progressive and Socialist parties and dare Democrat President Woodrow Wilson took the White House K now that's the arouse Paul came to Washington DC Alice was the daughter of Quakers in New Jersey she was a small frail and very soft spoken woman but a total badass she devoted all her waking energy to the movement she was a genius and strategy so much so that some compare to a military general by nineteen twelve at the age of thirty two she was a daring and imaginative leader and she is not one for waiting around this also meant opposing forces saw her as a dangerous radical yes of course our stride and dissemination twelve and took over the local office of the National American Women's suffrage Association the na Asa the nice tan AWA na sa u guys are spaceships and dry God please stop coming here when we go the wound there's a nuff there's nothing spelled differently you know back climate change get out you put that woman get out the NE USA was committed to a state by state approach and was not focus on doing anything with the federal government so much so that the only allocated ten dollars to the DC office for nineteen twelve house was supposed to find funds on around the smart they're right I mean that is totally the better way to operate it because I everything I've seen in my lifetime that has had a pendulum shift starts at the state level I think it was easy to pass the memories back them but I think that you do both with some like this no reason to take her seriously she just goes national right away start small maybe I mean I get a gate like gay marriage are like pots I think is the fight state and and Nationals same time they swing they won't like it is all it it almost seems like we it's almost like the difference and the Hollywood bio states or the pilot and Nationals the series you make the pilot and then if that works people might be good and then you hopefully go to maybe get a few hours and hours brought her assistant fire chief chief assistant Lucy Burns who was the total opposite of her shoes tall robust and temperamental Alice would figure out the strategy and then covered up burns are put into motion on the street we go Aus believe Wilson support for the movement was essential but it quickly became apparent that he did not give two fucks she continued to push for similar one in the budget they only had a couple from now than they did and then then the two Fox that he did have was using on the other motorists and she could either push for his support to get behind Anthony amendment he can team did not give a shit he would just say presidents should not influence Congress then he would influence Congress on everything else but Allison others kept pushing and the more they did the more he dug in turns out this also upset the powers that be at the N A W A S A who wanted to focus state by state campaign and they didn't like the aggressive tactics tactics which is what Alice Paul was all about Alice thought the state by state approach was garbage and wouldn't leave anything she thought it was the Anthony Amendment or nothing and have that happen the president need to get on board finally the Washington office and W s a split so she's gone her separate way ok she's left the Washington office mutually know she's in the washing jobs but they've they've just been cut loose it's no longer see the logic often not part of the national association rights to jobs with her ok got the DC office was close to the White House on January ninth nineteen seventeen President Wilson starved out on a meeting with the suffrage delegation am really saying he would not endorse the costs Allison had it the next morning twelve women carried banners on long poles from the office and stood outside the White House gates the banners read Mr. President how long must women wait for liberty they came back every day regardless of the weather no one can really understand what was going on picketing was not something that happened back then and seeing women do it was like watching alien stroller right people got some screamed angrily the the the uh the uh the got to feel right it is not mad they got I'm going to vomit over others just laughed at them the unsigned unbelievable you look like a bunch of idiots like Martin pipe on the up with what I am from the future of God the presto into two camps those for and those very against President Wilson did not say a word sometimes we drove out in his limo you just smile and tip his hat I know it was winter it was cold and nay they all suffered through the cold winter March nineteen seventeen came and spouses Organization joined a group from the west forming the National Women Women's Party Ausmus elected chairwoman and was becoming nationally known but a month later the U S entered World War One now the Civil War started pretty much every leader in the woman's suffrage movement back then agree they shouldn't fight for the vote until peace returned the only one who was really disagreed with that was Susan B Anthony ok she thought they would lose all the progress they'd made even though it was hardly anything and looking back Alice knew Susan B Anthony was right and she is not about to do that again ok so was give a speech about the war in which she said quote We shall fight for the things we have always carried in next to our hearts for the right of those who submit to authority to have a voice in their own governments how can you say that now tonight it's crazy that we're ignoring women right we must think load every want and when everyone has of all I saw it too fun for democracy and by having every one of the boys would get out of the now was one the I grab your crotch day and fail to model the hot dog then you are important for the ride to submit to authority to having boys in the end all mens ladies take a break in the Asian man ever this wealth in a Thai girls cook the pies find that your part in government a man as a government having to do I make is the founding Fathers oh and by the way women I want you to vote whether you want to make blueberry or cherry devoted mainly to get a choice close of voter the voter the shots the kiddies the towels are the speeches I were going to do that too and the decision was made to continue demonstrating even though the war was on okay naturally people lost their fucking shit time is like the women just seen as foolish and ridiculous but now are considered pate unpatriotic and some saw them as traitors of that they're standing outside with signs during a war of their traitorous unbelievable and women bowed out some women some of them bowed out because of the hostility that was coming their way right at their place by new women were encouraged by the fight the NW P was showing right so basically they're weeding weak they're getting stronger right they soon became a tourist attraction people would come by to look at their daily demonstrations some admiring some curious some came with a hurl insults at them they're wonderful what do you think the is still the the AM hey they still put its heyday was the pay is the day you gave out on ice on the john yeah that yeah yeah stupid Saddam's I I mean real friends know I come in his normal talk to me on the sign I can see the one I consider this a conversation I like dresses I like wearing dresses going to Oregon so the women they were just quiet and orderly ok so they that's the move not that chanting they're not just quiet the newspaper circle in the call and then the silent sentinels they're getting people's attention which is exactly what Alice wanted the demonstrations went on for five months Congress refused to do anything until the president told them to me why the president said nothing and everything then in late June people finally snapped when the demonstrators raised a banner critical of President Wilson wily Russian delegation was visiting the White House nice so you can't keep your women all over you and women that they are like like crazy they stand outside with signs you know you know kill them with stone way why allowed outside where they do this do you not have guard there you go mob attacked them good start good yet so when they did that the crowd rushed forward and rip down the banner all because they're like the Russians ulit para the the other is his play is um yeah there's the idea that no one from another country should see the crazy disrespect that you're showing the president was also inside the White House we've almost created some sort of sitcom where Woodrow Wilson is shepherding Russians another room so that they can set the windows and see that women are dissenting Kalyan like this room to this is an unbelievable room over here this is closet yet now look at that and this is where I do a lot and I think and you know what let's all jump in here for a minute have I think I might get together here get it for minute the weird given year ago in the door now does love its closet yeah exactly this closet and I just love it in here as to think that someone should the bathroom we got to go to the bathroom I was no one was there to look at that window the way you hide hide hide something from you Did I did I did end of the Gods on her yet guilt guilty have hidden something from you a birthday cake we use the closet yet oh I get out there get it are what the was the the bunnies so the next morning Lucy Burns were taken from the line put in to police wagon and driven away for what the station the police scolded them for not being good ladies and bringing shame to the country is that an arrest yet they're arrested for that they're not being good ladies right it's amazing how there's freedom of speech and let your voices I hear them and they were let go pending trial and for more then snatched from the mine and given the same business a few days later all six women were convicted of traffic obstruction charges a week in jail for three days a go yep this was the first time women seven just in America had been put in jail by the way the worst idea right if you're trying to stop the movement is create heroes and martyrs martyrs horrible idea but the authorities were just getting started on July eleventh and some of them are sent to jail than two weeks later sixteen women sixty census are just going around and give him the senses to top it off they're being sent to the dreaded work house for women okayy Kwan O Good One Virginia so it's this women's prison where there's you know the typical of that time the prostitution charges and back I should write yet so I think it too much publicly it's another in their dam and you know these savages are mostly from upper class right well off educated but they're good lawyers who argued that the arrests were blatantly illegal demonstrating was very much within the rights of any American citizen and one of the lawyers dubbed The Field Malone was a friend of the president and a collector of the Port of New York and he told Wilson he would step down from his position in protest the crackdown was always is doing Wilson said he didn't know anything about their arrests oh yeah oh the little kid press the the kids in the White House the The is being made and now I know it let me show you a closet come over here is a bit of good together in career rushing by and get in here so after that conversation a couple days later all the women were pardoned weird wonder why you think yeah then in August the ladies came up with a new banner this one called The Press this week all the presidents Kaiser Wilson now that was maybe not the most like thing they had done because we are at war with the Germans right and people went bug fuck the women were forced to retreat to the nearby and WP office for two days if any of them left the building may be physically assaulted by a mob outside the room put up banners on their balcony and men climbed to the second floor and fought with them ripping down the banners shown that the Tibetans Johnson the widow of science now that I got the banner down they can think we won right yet banner the man said someone shot through a window and just barely miss when the women inside finally after sitting around watching for two days the police stepped in and broke up the mob but these women any of it and the next day they were right back in for the White House pick a jobless six women and once again were being sentenced to one this time thirty days and Wilson was not given out pardons arrests and convictions when on for six more weeks they were all arrested for the plainly bullshit charge of obstructing traffic the site traffic to navigate yes they all got thirty or sixty days at everyone but the women did not stop in early September Lucy Burns and eleven others were given sixty day sentences Dudley Field Malone was down with Wilson he resigned from his position the sightings Wilson use of such oppressive methods this made headlines across the country and he was no longer friends with one President Wilson now o could want was a nightmare it was run like a concentration camp by the superintendent William Whitaker all the prisoners were terrified of him but he had reserved his real special hate for the suffrage us here are a bunch of educated women taking part in traitorous actions according to him he would have used the word uppity or the other word if they'd been around uppity or the other ward to see the Sea Isle Ice Candy Candy makers policy was to keep women from having contact the outside world so they were not allowed any visitors and all but then word started to get out about the treatment at Oakley won these relate out on scribble messages and smuggled to France they learned that the flu the women were being given was horrific the meat was rancid the cornbread was covered in mold the grits had worms in it oh and there's rat shit and dead flies in the food quote We try to make tried to make sport of the worm hunt but one prisoner eat fifteen worms during one Mel spoil their zest for the game the worms worms the prison was filthy no cleaning is happening at all the savages were forced into close contact with regular inmates who clearly had contagious diseases were not being treated by doctors don't eat the cornbread and that they were put it in total isolation even their lawyers had to go through many hoops just to see them by Malone demanded an investigation his purpose was to expose the rotten filthy horrific conditions and a good one of course the investigation happened concluded supervisor Whitaker was really good at his job and the women prisoners were just being unruly troublemakers right totally I was going to be well they haven't they're not being cool about it I like the term the mall the year wears what he learns this has to be Rooney don't have erected me I may go the gov or the government wanted Alice looked the part during the trial the savages government prosecutor pointed Allison said we'll get you yet she had mostly been directing strategy from behind the scenes but she did eventually venture out to the picket line as a leader does which she did knocked over and she was hauled off the picket line twice in two weeks and given seven months in jail for traffic but this time in DC yet who's affected at all for traffic so funny because there's other other other women like protesting know Yeah yeah says she literally goes out and they're like yes I'm stuck in traffic about you they are a mom so she sent to the D C jail not know who won now in this jail is no privacy is overcrowded the cells were infested with vermin a lack of food not like yeah you like how cool I've been eating a shit I was a lack of food which left them near starvation and and and they're out also I also I slid from the outside world visitors they were not given the usual per privileges regular prisoners at it was almost as if the D C warden was in Cannes was in competition with Whitaker to be the biggest fuckin ass all my temple to combat the treatment of this ever just demanded political prisoner status and the jailers were just infuriated the demand was dismissed which led the women to come up with a form of resistance quote at the end of two weeks of solitary confinement without any exercise without going outside of ourselves some of the prisoners were released having finished their terms with our number thus diminish to seven the doors were unlocked and we are permitted to take exercise Rose Winslow fainted as soon as she got into the yard while I was too weak to move from my bed rose and I were taken on stretchers that night a hospital here we decided upon the ultimate form of protest left to us the strongest weapon left to which continue our battle under strict Congress it'd work for women fighting for the vote in England where the sever just were far more comfort confrontational than America but Alice a lot easier to hunger strike in England to the yeah yeah it's fucking simple I would do if I lived there now I know the scam who don't know what that is no the all knowing God thank you the the um the of the shoe that's the when his the squash and why the GK know the the I don't want any of the the assault danced on the the The Eye The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The The Boy was a zombie time of year man so even though they were doing at Al's new destroyers would lead to a total nightmare quote the moment we undertook the hunger strike a policy of remaining intimidation began you will be taken to a very unpleasant place if you don't stop this was a favorite threat of prison officials where we were there we been the presence of God it's actually it's actually outside
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