229 - Boston Busing 1975

229 - Boston Busing 1975

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Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine year two of the Boston busing riots.

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all of this is our guest tri weekly American History podcast each week I read a story from American history to my friend Garrett Reynolds was no I'd do well who knows the topic already and is ready and the second half of this one on one the the night Gary Garrett ok someone to the heart and this is not going to come in to Queen's they give me that town all the way to ship the a bunch of religious virgins to mingle and pray gates to be continued so this is all about where we left off you said that nineteen seventy four when the nineteen seventy five was crazy and we just finished nineteen seventy four we only did four months of the school year then they shut down South Boston High School for nineteen seventy four yeah so they shut down or like two weeks early so they basically got a month off you know hopefully the things with Brees little and people are calm down real quick we're just saying this to probably one of the crazier things that I think this happened from this podcast was the story we did about the gentleman through loss Johnny lost his arms in a farming accident and had teenager and lived and had what is quite simply the funniest responses but in here being that ever been on we've got a dog on his fuckin wit and he has handled getting his arms torn out and we did the podcast little weird about it a little bit and it was really about how this guy was kind of sensational eyes and in so we thought we I feel we're doing it even though because that's what the press are done reading it in such a good sense a humor that was like easy to make jokes because he was making jokes anyway like five weeks ago he sent a message to convey whatever spark in my family did they did it so he sent some of these messages from Facebook and like hoses and it was coming from yeah so anyway send a message saying that he fucking loved it missing some of his friends were upset by it but he loved it and if I was really funny said he was passing over some of the lines yeah so that is actually super cool yet to get something like Yes that is crazy here we are all people are live gate sales yet truly week and if we say that about one of stripers yeah well I think that with a whip yeah yeah but you know the truth that lake in a in a broad sense recently there was somebody who was upset about the subject matter and about a person that we talked about because this person was actually like related to the prison which is like furs and ice sort of went back and forth with this person ended yeah and just kind of explain that it's so surreal to actually know that somebody related to something that you talked about is it's just like you would never you would never fit I don't think you'd ever think that and and it's crazy it's really like a surreal thing and you know and we sit we have to just react like we are reacting to his tree and try to make jokes about it and for sure there are times when we say stat like they I mean they're bad times on the show will be like laughing and I'll be like this is about two people who died and were like giggling like it's really crazy that's the great perk what is happening with the heater when I clicked over and was more sounds like birds and set the birds oh yes had to present some mistake that the beaded said he did it turn the heater to birds ok boss riots nineteen seventy five Part two Our first to par down because there was so much in the year I couldn't pare down after year and half of anti busing aft sorry after half a year of anti busing violence that led to the closing of South Boston which we do one of the things like previously oh yeah previously on the dollop light why isolated people in South Boston on an all new doll up began attacking children being bused in yeah so to summarize the first fire of racism tried to be solved with buses right right great idea so South Boston is close close in early to go and bust and I I I ever would begin preparing for the school to reopen on January eight teachers was just not this is not binders and pencils dress shopping with the cool teachers went to a three day seminar with teachers from other states have been through busing issues as of five A clash during a race war metal detectors were installed in high schools all weapons would be confiscated as well as Afro Combs radio ok lahz let's let's let's divide is an A and B is it shocking that all weapons would become this gets weird that that's in there but maybe pride to say that we are not letting them retain their weapons the well after last year the what we're saying and then they're also getting rid of hairspray and Afro picks which I feel like is a non white person minutes than say yes I have frozen to be fucked up that you sow is part of the deal sorry guys not going to look all spring in and what you call it good with taking away why peoples of the Afro picks too yeah why people get an Afro pick both Jenny you can keep the steel cone eggs you have this friend that looks great it hurts with them and might have heard from my hair okay don't talk don't talk to Jimmy Moore GA want to go to the black school go fucking go the judge Garrity issued a judicial riot order that meant no groups of three or more persons could gather with us within a hundred yards of South Boston no groups of three or more could gather that mall and also if you can't if you're talking to one person and another person you know come to the heads in the top yeah the five hundred heavily armed state troopers were stationed to be in side the high school for three years I was so the schools that are occupying floors yes is this Does this remind you of a rack a little bit I was all just sounds like it sounds like the process of trying to leave the Iraqi military to get their shit together for him bananas so speaking of bananas and state troopers entered the city at dusk in a long caravan of jeeps trucks and ambulances the night before school began oh I'm excited for my first day the town ease you measure your first day I school I high school I think most people I know I don't think so dial and it was the same for me except for all the cops in the buses in the militias that sentence on the same aroma well you know it's the same thing you're walking into a new social environment it's different you know the difference is you'll have assault rifles new classes new evidence none yet so it's the same thing the butterflies member of the night before my for school to hook new nope voice and you know that social circles at the idea that the professor could be shot with a grenade these are all very Yeah yeahs very similar I don't think so just like what I went to school okay using same thing with attorneys came out to see the caravan come and the usual mothers with children teens drinking beers and old timers on the street was a guy columns of wacko hold a chalet Lee Skinner initial alias it doesn't even matter his story checks out I know initially it is like fucking came with a big thing on the NE can have people with the news that I think I get sort of an Irish martial arty type the thing to derision but actually I saw that ada Kane weapon yet again Ricky was there holding a huge faded American flag with forty eight stars on it quote came this flag because I'm a loyal patriotic American flock You I lay awake what is your prob lost in flax got a forty eight stars on a sleeve or try to make that point it should be like one of those thirteen star flag think that would make your point better than being like I know why I recognize you fuck million Native Americans of the island peoples and lands guy would be pro you but I couldn't find a forty nine star or if I want to take a vacation go to Bermuda fuckin animals so a friend of Nikki's walk by and offered him a swig of the slits this week of fleshly mostly she just lets it he said we gotta get those fuck is this yet so they're at it now while the army is coming in there's an army coming in any closer to family as we get the fuck is this year he's talking about the fucking black the black people the win well I'm a little relieved to hear that the arm is among the people on the list Ricky then stepped into the street and refused to move until he was arrested the eighth off me a small woman grabbed his flag as he was being handcuffed she was surrounded by several of her children she looked at someone and said quote go get my husband Tom again of going to be arrested he should bring my cigarettes I I she looked at a reporter nearby and made speech quote for Hatton fast the best they give the niggas the schools and then they start arresting people carrying the flag but as long as one of us is a live liberty will not die in South Boston see there it is it's the day it's the it's the it's the people don't agree on what liberty is the bad news that's going to be the problem ok so in this area it's all wrapped up in this fuckin Liberty ship because this is where it started great and seventeen seventy six so they how they have this American Revolution tied in with this fun yet crazy working class problem with the problem and again not to just lean into the white guilt as people say it but the problem is that the founding father like you can't keep holding everything that the founding fathers said to be so vastly important southern slave owners and slave owners and also founders of the electoral College and women don't get to vote by the way and you look at what they did great yeah the people of South Boston never stop talking to Thomas Jefferson was an absolute genius oh rape slay the blow comes on I so this is what it looked like according to one of the troopers in this cool quote There were so many heavily armed men stationed around the school in our case there are at it actually a trooper every five yards inside the school and out believe me in the beginning every one of those troops was needed just getting kids from buses into the school alive each morning was a major task crazy early mornings everyone was fresh and spoiling for fight fight or a concert inside the school we had a flying squad assigned to just a classroom situations but most of the action was in the hallways every time a bell signaled a shift of classrooms it was like a gong signaling of Friday Night fights you know I do so you may quote No Good is what I would and this might even sound I would come up with the second bell I would come up with two bells would start but for the different races a first for the fair is here that that's the whole prayer nay it's baby steps baby steps so are starting with blacks on one day in Whiteside today is and whatever else we are dealing with the subsequent de other one percent of the other mean I don't want to classify as other because I think that in some ways it's not great he calmly couple different belts not a good time and no elves no it's that we're not solving anything but so I love that they had a roving squad that the average five yards and a roving school a roaming squad you would feel like they would be okay so there's still tons of fights with the five hundred troopers lunchtime is the most difficult troopers or form a line between black and white students in the cafeteria and some in South We believe black students were being trained in guerrilla warfare at Elmer Louis School which was a cultural institution they also thought the NAACP was hiring thugs and militants to pose as students that is such an email like they literally think the plot of twenty one jump Street with just black people I mean how out of your gourd you have to be quote They don't pay em much maybe forty dollars a week hey you know I I think I was there to make it I am out with no confirmation or anyone to tell me that this is true I finally cracked how much money they're getting paid I said I've settled on a wage scale for my insane fairy yea alot of facts or rolling it about this thing I invented my brain does other again for the forty x a week or about two am gonna get a little bonus to get the runner on the come in the building a spaceship spaceship landing on the roof think yo Hyde Park High was also a constant battle on the second day back one fist fight bloomed into a series of fights all over the school and soon they were fighting the cops the brawl that day it was insane two hundred twenty five cops in Hyde Park High fought with students both black and white the day fights arrest ended with fifteen arrests mostly black students and classes being suspended Suh is coming together well was then calm at the school for a month but fights broke out again on February twelveth they lasted three days what three days a fight at school and you are going home in between yet so it's almost like you're there well our Odyssey tomorrow remember my face was right he took a great day and yet it's really about to break my job so just remember that okay about my job we punch in tomorrow to see you tomorrow at a good evening my friend I hate your race I the think ever for the a good does it mean I go to Vail where you fucking tune O O of supporting your right to fuck to me would often lock thank you on the way home one day fifty black students abducted the school bus driver forced him to stop for Hamburg it's not an auction of Doc damn well they made him the doors them into a hamburger trip I got an abduction margin April fairly calm considering there were occasional issues roar held the anti busing group held a funeral themed protest on March fifth with a cup I feel it the six the back of my God you nailed it for a anti busing protesters marching in a coffin that represented the death of liberty ay ay ay leg of the US wants to live with the i weekly due like she had no respect for yet got the day they chanted Garrity kill liberty as they walked Garrett a hill and the day that I can really kill it but hey it's almost like their parody this point yet at the end of the march they went to a reenactment of the Boston massacre writes all the stuffs nearby here this is not good as the shots were fired exactly all for under the protesters fell to the ground oh my gosh I love the black suited for maid is like whoa awesome interacting and they really saw themselves as having lost their freedoms and continuing a righteous tradition of protesting in America sure they saying Oh no what might be the most ire on this ironic scene of all time are they saying We shall overcome know they did shut up was that from Part one Part one I I you can't do that we shut our Oh the label of children coming from the Can I Be You just can't you can't you can't there it's no livable know you can write your own overcome song in years saying perspective but you're not no you're not allowed it he'll get that one no it's not a single written for you people not at all it's the opposite of it for you out you the you are the to be overcome the New Kids On The Bus to be singing it while you're throwing bricks at them yes a weasel overcome oil three bricks the kids on a bus and we will just complete victims and victimhood is insane the judo know what it's like I gotta get up so early in the morning to go throw tomatoes blanket it's like a full time jaw I'm like exhausted actually is a full time job because I have a job because I got laid off because I was drinking so I can be no Christmas presents this year because Daddy spent all his money on watermelons and bananas I show these black students that they're not white ok you get you get to understand we are young now you'll get it understand when when you're talking to your kids about how they subsequently will have to go to buses and throw bricks and students because the race is not the race that you think is the Number one race and weight room or new track by Schultz who had a slip of my slits on April seventh Senator Kennedy was giving a speech at a political forum and nearby Quincy the anti Busters broke in and started during him women surrounded Kennedy and started jabbing him with small American flag a hot air as he tried to escape the bill not a hot poke a hole in the one inside me when I got to his car he discovered his tires were slashed the police escorted the center to a train station and the crowd followed and then threw rocks at the train has left the state the train the the the making and transport more than forty passengers I'm a third a national left wing organization called the Progressive Labor Party decided to have a march against racism ok mei came from New York the plan was to march right to Louis De Hicks home okay they quote carried clubs or sticks and canes and many of the persons who lined the sidewalks along the march were similarly armed with baseball bats sticks and crutches one man had a section of a metal bed frame I show you my journey with me doing this so I just didn't have time to mail on the knuckle of what the fuck is everyone in hockey stick I didn't play hockey for like the focus is given to you too I woke up so late so the only thing that I could I basically I just took after the bed let's get your fuckin they can get them together you make a mock you watch tomorrow night other people watch a lot of bad that was going to be fucking laughing at us now are you fucking attack Jesus Christ silver lining was for whining when we get tired don't you we have that absolute every bit as Selena take a look that cool or really don't get tired you know that that's where the commie fuckin non stop Jimmy yeah well share right now that yeah that's me the reason but also you can just have one semi view of a drinking problem okay I don't turn this into an intervention we ought to check its focus out bothered dirt dirt don't get me about bringing half of them just say we all got beef ok you brunch links to a fucking morning dentistry a listen to me You lie on my table okay was that mean I almost brought the end table instead have a bet so well lucky i have the first time I like our little handful of couch cushions said tell me that half the bed is pretty good could say I'm a guy did this ok is the route yet you barely appears as if tomorrow i got a great plan those few who show up with a used Autumn and due to my show oh don't you fuckin will show up don't you fuckin time to build a whole dining room bed area sometimes I move in my house day by day out yet sometimes I think English not guilty eventually the P O P quote attacked a group of twenty to thirty South Boston youths near the Bayside Mall with belts wooden canes in karate blows how all these people I don't know but the I couldn't really read a couple newspaper article or can forgot exactly but I love that they came in to march and march against racism and then ended up attacking a bus stop yeah that's the thing it's like you can't hear the response was swift about a thousand South These were there in moments with baseball bats off hockey sticks and rocks and they did their best to push the peel peel back a few rocks at the P O P and their buses from an overpass one driver said quote There were at least a hundred kids throwing rocks and running towards the bus they broke every window on my bus three hundred cops came but they could not and the battle for several hours this led to fights for the next couple of days at Hyde Park High as white students went on the offense after a black student stood up and waved EP LP flack ok too much of an anti Busters had had it with the Boston Globe's coverage roar thought the newspaper was distorting news in influencing people against them so they held a demonstration in front of the globe offices they picketed the newspaper plant and laid down in front of delivery trucks den the trucks were attacked two drivers were injured after their windshields were shattered for the next couple of weeks cars would drive by the Boston Globe and shoot at the windows it's us one man blasted the front doors with a shotgun as it is that other the rest of the offense they're totally rest of the just get the car driveway like oh so they're not caught no I I it's cause we can put one in for the Boston Globe for the shootings deck I was a friend Whitey Bolger and he said he ran up and he watched the security guard down and then he shut the fuck indoors ok on on the more violent side a group of anti busing protesters led by the weeds Ansari on the non violent side so now they're starting to be a non violent so now there's now there is a whole is a pacifist wing of the violent racist that's cracked battle that script got love them and be in there getting warmer I and they're led by Louise on the stage to sit in at the federal building there they asked reporters quote If my Luther King was a hero for sittin' on the edge of blocking traffic of picketing how come when I hear it's so they're they're really they're really putting everybody in a really weird head space because they're like they're now not the worst guys and they're comparing themselves to Martin Luther King but they're still racist right so like other moderate racists right yeah there's a level headed races at the time I like pragmatic pragmatic racists we just take classes and soon came the Carson Beach incident Logan Carson Beach was in the heart of white Boston and near a housing project you would not find a black eye on that beach because they were scared they would be attacked six black Bible salesmen were visiting from South Carolina and on the twenty seventh they went to Carson Beach to enjoy a little and to get away from the oppressive heat of Roxbury they were totally unaware of the area and the danger they thought the heat was oppressive uh I I you think the Heat's bad way t get to all the white people I now see that he took Alia it's not it's the invented racism in the culture I know I have Bibles I think the humidity they were surrounded in minutes by white men and women armed with pipes and sticks the salesman ran by leaving their car which was immediately destroyed then the whites gave chase and caught the salesman beating them one particularly badly because he was trapped by a fence the black community was incense this was the ultimate indication of how blacks could not travel into white areas of the city of Boston the people of South E said these were bad guys who came looking for trouble I brought the funk of Bibles like what is that she read bible guns this fucking wicked bullshit and loaded Bibles Jim Kelly of Rohrer summed it up quote We've always welcome good colored People to South Boston but we will not tolerate radicals communists good color people are welcome yeah it's just that the way we determine if the good is if they if we beat them or not right so so so we don't if there's a black guy and he comes over he and we don't beat them up that's a good black guy but then if there is another black guy Eddie comes oh my were like let's beat this one up that guys that's a bad one if they fight back to that sometime in the city's African American community leaders decide to respond with a march that would end with a picnic on Carson Beach this is the black people in every American who the boss and the activists the should they go there yeah okay I will have but how about that that have that how about we solve the problem of that beach after people stop trying to kill kids in bus let's start small baby steps baby steps authorities said this would lead to a riot did everything they could to talk them out of it but they were determined to go forward with their march the next Sunday eight hundred cops were at Carson Beach and then came two thousand black protesters and they met four thousand furious Saudi flights gosh
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