DiscoverThe Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds241 - The Two Indigenous Actors (Live w/ Bert Kreischer)
241 - The Two Indigenous Actors (Live w/ Bert Kreischer)

241 - The Two Indigenous Actors (Live w/ Bert Kreischer)

Update: 2017-02-091
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Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine indigenous actors Jay Silverheels and Iron Eyes Cody. (Hat tip:  Sivert Glarum)

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the The The The The The The The The The we keep doing this and I keep being very clear it's Gareth I don't know what a fuckin prob i am de The The names the history standards and no one messes with it is not some crazy Welsh Country weirdo I am named after an alternate night of the roundtable there was a second table where a bride to Deborah Knights kicked it made the beds while the big boys night out fighting Sir Gareth known for stuffing the pillows you're listening to the doll up this is o k biweekly American History podcast each week I didn't or you read a story to my friend over to stray from American history to my friend Garrett Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about the and this week we have a phenomenal guest plays given up for bird cry share the is coming in this day bride price and say God is writing to let the I was getting a soda for me by God every day it was a man to stop any caffeine scrap it give me at all imma go hit that shit too we hit all the shit just got an email that's big is it from Bollywood the I was going to work at a video of him Anderson member boxer to mention a video of Tim Anderson second fight against market gas and now the one in which he was poisoned has been kept secret for twenty five years but I have it it's on YouTube now that's an e mail to you yeah we were there there's a there's some of those that are trying to get him out yet and the widow you are doing your part step it up and I were conveyed to me we send them we sent him with like we got in the description The New York Times were doing it far or how it looks rough these things are not good here do you think that would come together yeah this is shocking the gas those French for disaster it'll pick up the I O the mood is and we've been having alot of problems with terms of how to describe indigenous peoples I got yelled at for column that going in you it's thinking Eskimos offensive and then he hears Eskimos not offensive in than we look it up online last month sparking offensive to their podcast I said Native Americans and some guy something like twenty fuckin D and I took him just how wise were wake of a his name was his name was direct messages frequently by the way I'm not going to add to the sensitivity training though I know seven years to year here so we can blame anything that goes wrong on a new sew in in Canada there are called Aboriginal people don't like to be called First Nation in America so it's all in this custom canvas all think fucked up it comes to America to give a shit show I average it all says there is contact not the real original and average the other usual Harold Smith was born on the sickening six nations of the Grand River First Nation right there that's easy to find I don't I have is the first of the sex you're way off bangs this is really not about is the dew of the seven U wanna go bath above the fray as the water this is better by the six of the wind what are you a dumb ass it's near Hager Ville Ontario Canada Smith was a full blooded Mohawk do I say that a casino these days the record scratched his father George Smith had been one of the most decorated needed the soldiers in the Canadian Regiment in World War One when the reason he did as good as we get citizenship if you are Native Canadian was super cool I made him fight for the day your diapers yet so you really care yeah yeah fuck you guys yeah I am like ready to get out here yeah Smith as young minister playing lacrosse and he was so good that even she became a member of the National lacrosse Team Canada and the travel all over and eventually he played in Los Angeles though the tea they make rosters oh no he's an alien invasion scan through the fuckin skills but what if they're traveling the frogging this one through us and just people like this I look in the ass but it's a terrible sport to watch and a cross now I know what you see are the seat over here what I can associate severely when they were requested is it too late to put it in order the request I know it the request next add all the love seat the Hall family room setup up front again now at the time in Hollywood racism was used to justify having white people played Native Americans in homes and awkward era oh as opposed to the movie but Matt Damon playing an Asian person or a stone Emma Stone plays like talking about the past I really love this bag as we've always learned from the mistakes the from the nineteen fifteen book making the movies by Ernest to ditch the Red Indians who have been fortunate enough to secure permanent engagements with several western film companies are paid salary that keeps them well provided with tobacco and their worship fire water o know card now know who that guy how much for what he is a boss he's in the dailies are you kidding me I don't know where that goes it was a guy vision the willpower to the editor was like that my only notices that Thomas would be a semi colon other than that we're good to go the this book is as hot as that engine fire water he's not done yet ohh it might be thought that this would symbolize them completely but it has had quite the reverse effect for the work affords them an opportunity to live their Savage days again and they are not slow to take advantage of it they put their heart and soul in the work especially in battles with the whites and it is necessary to have it is necessary to have armed guards watch over their movements for one at least a side of treachery on on this set just in case you don't know that I set the stage with him n take and you watch the Native Americans because they are shifty of Ellie with more feathers than they come in with Keep your eyes peeled they are five feather discounts we come even today a few white players specialize in Indian parts they take leaving parts for which Indians are seldom adaptable to act as an Indian is the easiest thing possible for the red skin is practically motionless so the the ball so to sum up they didn't have a great opinion in Hollywood the Americans who you with the huge own goal no sir no you know oh oh oh please don't read this but don't feel so bad now does that leave the hosts oh so wise and most enjoys playing lacrosse Harry Smith was noticed by comedian Joe Brown Brown saw something in Harry and encouraged him to give acting a try from lacrosse days I look at the food but passed it already looks like you why that believability is what the screen needs nowadays my god I thought you were going right you unless you're a goddamn chameleon to do is get a guard to want to read too much fire water and tobacco yet to be so good is a Native American garden area to rest to me but his their idea acting was like another horse and go get shot by a guy like that say when he sees a plane the cross he sees a guy running around is like that's acting for and by the way acting is not too far from that now know so so Harry at that point is Canada's highest paid lacrosse players so he could afford to take some time off because it clearly stash some cash from its We Canadians across money on the questions we can move on so Joe Brown helps carry find his first job in Hollywood as a stuntman in a nineteen thirty seven musical called pay go which I don't know what use is like not alot of stunts of musicals but apparently that time well it was about a lacrosse player on suicide watch he was perfect after a couple years Harry had worked on a handful of un credited stunt jobs he then got an acting gig as an anonymous Indian in the movie The Seahawk starring Errol Flynn so he's just like a guy in the year that Lexi played Indian okay that's what he would know his name Harry Smith plays and that's all he has been million dollars Movies Harry Smith plays and all the way for a long time well are about to go on a run then run right he plays Indian Too Many Girls starring as yarn as our noses understudy was a guy named Ben Johnson on that on that movie in vans biography the author wrote quote during the show's preparation then was surrounded by homosexuals the Oh well it was a fate was it was a musical I don't know well and with the guys and you don't date between the lines of these people down there with a vignette really what this is what back then was not correct I wrote dancers in the way so now to wait somebody so he's been better as an expression was as as the expression was Indian as the party's call that someone else is like you are and believe the AZ we need you back do nothing again William so he can do is act playing Aboriginal natives in movies about French Canadian fur traders there are many parts for anonymous Aboriginal throughout the film but most of the Native actors who did this had very short cruise Holland because they either couldn't find decent work or just couldn't deal with the blatant racism you mean actual May native Americans will people who tried to do it so when he does this they are putting makeup on him no he doesn't have makeup on so he wears a suit I wasn't stressed the fuck address the halfway of America feather on the wall yes but there's no there's no makeup no the guy with his not why he is okay so I write sia forgot that I forgot yeah we'll write alot of stuff for me ok still get to the so fair that spare people's heart it was hard to catch that point when I talk about it for ten minutes of the star sign so on films white extras there's also white textures would arrive first because they had to get the red makeup put on bully Armenia is a red type of clay I thought it was an eating disorder I I I I you would mix the clay with water and then apply it to actors' faces before was used as a makeup it had been prescribed by doctors as a cure for diarrhea I talk about being discreet with their diarrhea your face is covered in clay the Dear Diary I know most home in June the lady who was the get well today the diary is God can't leave the house but the diarrhea is gone a Native American named Iron Eyes Cody with his first job in Hollywood as a supervisor in the makeup department he would oversee to make sure that the red clay on the faces made the actors look authentic oh well he looks like one of us for sure I can because he's got just a red eye yeah that's okay with us yeah that'll do that'll play II city was part Cherokee part creed been raised in Oklahoma Pam I pictured had used his family's Oklahoma farm for a shooting location in nineteen nineteen and his dad long been in show business as you toured with Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show share within a year of the film being shot on the farm the cookies had moved to Hollywood and Iron Eyes father worked as a technical advisor on many early westerns in nineteen twenty five hours begin working in makeup on sets he could recite the Great Spirit prayer do rope tricks knew sign language and could speak five of the parts of the five Indian languages not be in the languages because of that he soon started getting work as anonymous natives himself and slowly got steady work on camera so he's he's an actor to the cemetery though the clay on face and now he's like Faulkner to be one of the ones of the make up now just gonna stand there and be like Hey I The good shot is fired to revoke in Native American languages in there just don't save it on and you know all we need is to God how is it then you're on set we got to keep it under three otherwise get a bomb he had lived in other how he's as living how could you how it downloaded how how how how would I So so the workers there be a white guy in the league with the red covered phase and then a bunch of Native Americans behind them who were getting annoyed but not sitting too I did not worry about toilets on that said I do make matters worse some Native Americans then employed on Western films to teach whites how to speak and act authentically quote like an Indian we spent slow talking in low voices and stilted words yet yeah right corners that's exactly what it's like slow down little bit of noticing right now murdered thirty years now the slowdown due to fast I felt the Oh yeah yeah you said like I used to me like horse on camera I know if are also down for a burly arms obsessed with the fact that I still call a crisscross applesauce and tearing apart the cold I think about that hey kids I caught Chris Yeah sauce applesauce why we destroy their water in North Dakota that is so fucking rude it seems like we are focused on like that's offensive to say now nobody change anything to help them okay I f the ah what was what equals goddamn my day I let go add the rest was at but notice that by the idea that the bed then we will get oil from his mother thought that the president back to God the great depth the the the the Y I i will jus rate the Fed to raise I am taking away their rights but we will not use terminology of bed to them that was a dead football team was a good book ball through the end of another powwow about the bike the other way by the way those shooting on protest Nation air show and my directors will powwow the moon to those whose words on TV he's moved on them so Harry Harry was in the same film as Iron Eyes Cody in nineteen forty two in the Lucille Ball movie Valley of the sun by this time Harry become a little suspicious of Iron Eyes background question in his native roots as a few other Native Americans while they can really do this in public they would say to each other other Native Americans would get upset by this taco ever as they believed Iron Eyes was being truthful when actor stuntman running deer herd fellow actor Jim White Cloud questioning Iron Eyes background he punched him in the face and knocked out two teeth another time running here through an actor named Little Buffalo through a glass door at a bar while the iron and nature as nature so clear there are questions about Iron Eyes but people are falling on both sides of the aisle yes some movies like Shaun Kennedy are known as Canadian Mounties westerns which managed to be even more racist than American western this we take this up a notch that out American any American I have my one note is that they're not offensive enough we could really milk this the Wi Fi belief only fans on the counters were set well they have shaken MT dew westerns had an overwhelming use of quote half breed characters what is yes the park I did not think this could get worse the we say Ameen said stars the the the war the well the matter but the boat in the area known to Montreal minute time this is my friend Jimmy runs with posts hello I even buy that offends the eye in the half breed besides being a great chair song was the a racial slur The referred to the people of Canada who were of mixed Native and European descent for half a century they were depicted as villains quote sneaky untrustworthy degenerates who desired defenseless white women sold whiskey to the Indians and let others take rap for their crimes in the silent now to fill God's country they were described as quote strange heritage of degenerate blood Canadians are awful I mean I know what's what with the two maps of the breeds just just the Aboriginal people from Canada and then anybody from Europe came over and fuck them by the way I would get into character can see why we can't trust them though because they've got the customs of the white man but that got the blood and it's true they're not fully corrupted yet more white water Whitewater delicious light more devil why the term half breed was actually mostly spread by Hollywood movies more than any other part of society oh cool that's cool yeah before Merrill gave her speech of the trend or notes like back then if they just going after the scripts I am a God have prayed that God had braids that evaporates the fun and great firewood I modified to add that Dan's got to be done and that's to do was ride the zipper turned up by causing him to rehab rehab rehab rehab rehab or I don't think we as a fun book and have read right sorry I was absolutely just have to just get to that fucking happy to have read the reader who remembers everything is good but the cupcake is the BN hey the next Harry worked on an Abbott and Costello film that was so offensive to Arabs it was banned in Morocco and Syria the chest knocking the ball out of the park just wear a week and we will be making those films in ten years the two yet but ten mins due in nineteen forty five was the year Harry Smith picked a new Hollywood stage name first to call themselves silver heels Smith this was is the cross nicknamed the team and given them okay and then he turned off by the way very weird name even if your point across I agree what were you wearing tap at the half to a whole day guys can we put someone in the middle of the feel of the ata grass for you the argument was that old reels knows this over here is move over and then eat it but any change Jays over heels so silver heels wasn't the issue that was a lottery team and yet several hills he's always over heels in and use us over they would still be if you talk about that either you don't know what a voice over soon I'd recommend cooled cover for her b movie haha oh boy Hollywood with the eighth the I was so so a mage it was becoming know a known face in films is still being that is the Lake Indian in the in the cast but people are sceptical I think this is the director gets close you can get being recognized he was the junior and crowded parts he was another movie The Iron Eyes Iron Eyes Cody called on conquered there's no obvious tension between Iron Eyes J silver heels Janice continued work in many films together and separately for years both in the exact same sorta roles but in nineteen forty nine J silver heels had a big breakthrough and became the first native born person to play a Native American on TV the popular radio show The Lone Ranger was raw challenge finally to the By the way it is crazy to think if it is just a radio show cos the one time the oven at one time they get a real Native American and you don't it's like I go now when they go to TV now and again the the uh let's cover the radio partner to love this all during the thirties and forties radio Tonto had been voiced by white actor John Todd but when the fifties came around John Tom was he was in his early seventies and the radio executive overseeing the show fired him replacing him with a young Native American voice actor but the Native American voice actor refused to speak the sub level English in the script wanting Tonto to speak in an educated tone he was then immediately fired the fire water and they uh uh and they rehired elderly just the way there's there's no crowds no the babe own the norm all his actual Native Americans moon moon and I yours Seva day and that's it so we'll go with yellow we have no other option there's literally no other human honor the old guy the ranger at the stroke of murder are it's also for TV so he is just for radio still goes on in Hollywood like black actors was like going for the Sprite commercial guys like you who know Oh yeah both will go dormant and then then then then that's what happens where you create like this weirdly competitive competitive market where like you know some people like alright I will applique to add up for my for this audition of people like that's too much than what the fuck is happening to me not to be actual human being I get older why did up all the time the New balance is the I I work for me but I put a new ballot and all that milk you like Dave and the sheer white and after sides because the D C and you don't have a If you need to see my album I Got You gotta love the fucking backbone of this guy going to the American goods are like the way a zone right now but I'm Native Americans to unite to talk like this move the ah it's wordy still have you met yourself the year not like that I knew most years don't use verbs we do to use verbs there you go again I will never be the lone ranger premiered on television on September fifteen to nineteen forty nine and it made J silver heels a household name you get more work than ever before but still all in the stereotypical Mama's lap
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241 - The Two Indigenous Actors (Live w/ Bert Kreischer)

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