273 - The Magicians

273 - The Magicians

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Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine magicians of the late 1800's

 

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appropriation when he ran the show at Harry Hill's schedule the action filled in on the guys caught the day the bloody and cut the victim got the last than AIDS asthma for me specialized in person nations and dialects singing I mean what do the stereotypical black voice of the time he did an Irish Brogan was a Scottish Burr all how did he get that one right and the broad accents of quote typical Hebrews homely but Dutch been or Italian in the The Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins of racism just got instruments all over like give storm front had a rich little he was all the clothes with the jiu shi AI and he was also a ventriloquist hypnotist and magician what the WOW can cover all your bases I mean really the Sloan was a famous rowdy dive bar New York it was I can't believe what's happening already I knew it was a large open space that served as a dance hall by room variety Theater and boxing ring I I did it also flowed and I It's just your classic dancehall by erm theater in the the other get ready for the minstrel show it knows is the bedrock with them have your attorney and a giggle like with casinos on your Palm Springs where just an open room yet where it yet feels like that like where yes where you're like you guys he is the bands the I House upper seats were for women finally a break when we got every free minute to twenty five cents each around the drink was the drink was obligatory at the start of any dance and quote take a little wine for thy stomachs ache was thought that was one of her saying OK Mr. Chua also no swearing I know how it is my favorite thing no swearing during the night let's put makeup on and give them a hell of a Shoal typically yet no swearing but that's fine and no trouble inside pimps prostitutes thieves and drugs had to step outside before starting any transaction planning a crime or picking a fight ok drunks you can identify how do you identify thieves was sure they knew of all everybody knows the neighborhood very hard to just about the guy for hypothetical theft I like fast guy made it ok so the saloon was so William Robinson the boys the sun right was encouraged to follow phone his father's footsteps as a performer ok he was tall handsome but didn't have the same stage presence or confidence and his dad and even just born into it it's it's this is the classic show business get the hell he was tall I did that Will didn't like the sound of his voice man and he didn't like telling jokes so it's good be good korean show problematic for perform none of this is exactly what you want ok so he would stay at home and practice in front of a mare as a teen will perform at private parties picnics or school programs often entertaining children with with menstrual base know he's a magician he enjoyed the magic magician a lots of fancy equipment which took a lot of skill to build and very costly ok Will can afford the fancy equipment so he took a job at a brass Foundry ok he learned to work with sheet metal shaping and smothering it became a meticulous craftsman he was so good in the late eighteen seventies Mart in his New York the largest magic manufacturing Company a magic shop would bring him into the shop to work on special projects so he's getting into magic to the back tyres learn and build shit sure he had behind the scenes access to the newest innovations in magic might be my favorite thing ever said on this podcast the newest innovations in magic command this guy's case United Tigger Rabbit of a hat that look that says listen I wait for the rabbit's hole creases of the innovations my friend innovations you know if you put a little brass and the rabbit ah huh that's a yes or no put like a bunch of grass and the bunny it might be a little whiny little ache or brass in the rapid rise in an Amber actually that may yet pass it up as I sit and fill them with at that stage they going to give Israel some how I think of a Because is late he pulled the bobbin the outcome was the peoples a bunch of prowess on the the eighth as the the the So it's like in lumps will say if you like loans hey they just give decision she was he like what you're talking about I didn't know but I did tell him yes and yes I'm in a year if I understand why the eye the eye so also some of the most famous musicians were tossed off to visit the shops it was nice to go where Harry Potter's to lead that party will was becoming a magic expert but still lacked confidence his technical skill was exceptional Giggs run near city he watched any magic show he could and at age twenty one married Bessie Smith who was sixteen normal age gap and Bessie was in love with Will Will needed an assistant ok she assisted on stage with tricks changing costumes and cetera and so Helen married her because even this is basically a shell behind the scenes packing and moving a large props repairing small intricate props they were billed as Robinson the man of mystery the world's marvelous enchant or assisted by was well Betsy in scenes of enchantment wow I don't know what they one thing that is definitely improved in America is the naming shit yet really killed it yet you don't teach you not everything needs money for titles No Go Know will sign his letters Mystic leave the line allowing the email now Mystic lead I guess level figured out tomorrow physically dying he grew his mustache long and they make a great call a B A and curled the ends with wax on stage she wore black knickers silk hose and a formal telco modeling style of famous magician Alexander Herman to tell me they were the K Alexander Herman was a Parisian who came from a family of famous European magicians hot look at that time look I made the maze a brass poop come out of the rabbits rabbits dead yes but they came out with yy got a doubt that you like you the eye yeah I now why if what I his brother Carl was also magician both of them followed in the footsteps of their father and grandfather but Alexander was the one who came to America Herman was the perfect stereotypical magician tall slender long tail coat goatee black hair braces stereotypical me together was fuck yeah there was magic was having with that without much going to be magic with must've just been so and they were like rock stars I mean they must if they were like they were and they were rock stars so he had him he was very graceful he had long fingers and a great stage presence he was America's favorite magician for well over twenty years and a legitimate celebrity in America his wife Adelaide was part of an as an actress dancer bicycle act as well as being shot from a cannon wow and Leavitt aiding in mid air not the things that I married up I can buy me the eye of the Rose de event has been ok we'll get the best seats that he could to watch Herman when he and studied Herman's Act in December eighteen eighty three just eight months after they were married Bessie and will have a child usually the not not the gestation period of the human brain how low payments but Bessie was not the child's mother the mother was probably a young served only a battle I I I but the second came on I knew she was in the mother so that they might unfounded and he might offend another reason to get married she is quite a magic trick the eye so he banged one of the servants living in his parents' house got her pregnant and then married someone else to cover up cover and up and then his parents his parents took the baby to raise it ok so he convinced his parents adopt that is his child but they didn't know the truth no they did I faded yeah I think they just like public I think they just did a room yet because they want to keep the kid but they didn't want to come from the serve and serve because then you have a sermon baby Livi thought of serving baby live in houses not great I like them out of all of this um well we can ask question about it yeah yeah the staff need to serve babies the best of the baby's eye so here I have later Billy and Bessie had an actual baby L Moore in eighteen eighty six will travel to Europe as part of his job at the Martinez magic shop to watch the latest magicians visit fabricating shops and bring the secrets back so he's like on a magic finding mission it's no secret magic fact finding mission right cool he left his wife and child at home in England will became enthralled by the performance of magician Ben Allie Bay Bay dressed with a bizarre turban wrapped around a pointed Wizard's cap he dressed with a turban on a Wizard's cap and you fucking Betty did it look normal at all I don't think so that doesn't sound like a marble no no I think it sounds crazy to think of all the rabbits he has had an echo of God at first Will didn't know how the bay was doing his tricks but he carefully scripted to the lights he discovered the secret squinting in Berlin Allie Bay had discovered what was called Black Art a German actor playing a slave in black face appeared on stage Lord but when the audience didn't react Allie Bay realize the actor was basically invisible against the black velvet drapes behind him I eye the eye is the jist of it without a raise I can't say Oh that is awful so he had you know weight is in blackface informing my material so Allie Bay had black curtains arranged in the gas lights put in a certain way to recreate the trick and assisted in all black cannot be seen by the audience they would move around to grab stuff and put in different places met Jack yet hidden black magic which is told to make a comeback in America I think the whole I know but if you squint you can see yeah apparently if you squint Wolf you look it's because the magicians are looking to see how the trick is done so they're not watching the same way you I know most people are just looking out like Oh wow that's crazy but he's like looking for the hidden shit where you're not a feeling of magic Aguilar just like to show others that I the eye can see the goods to announce when the ice with anything as of today he's the the the eyes move the queue so Will took black art and brought it to America and other Bessie a child was able to spend all our time assisting will and their marriage fell apart but they didn't divorce surely it was expensive and wills Roman Catholic so they just went there several ways what she took the baby cot so we'll met all of path who is a show girl shoes tiny under five feet and very slender the perfect size to fit into cabinets and to be Levitt aided the that a lady acted jam into a cab Holy I could put you in a box and will do of look like shoes anywhere between the ages of twelve and forty A and if you notice those standing over there that somewhere between the age of almost adolescence and middle age and your tiny frame into a cabinet sometimes muddy shoes actually twenty he called the doc because oversize charmer seven dollars a dedicated assistant she sewed costumes packed props to practice each move with Will night after night after night she was far more devoted the Bessie had ever bad love my ex he never did as did the cabinets stone so glad we just went our separate ways and stayed married I is oh which reminds me or see you soon dot and Will were in love and doing it or whatever they're doing doing it doing and having that making the love yet you can say you are sleeping on August eight the Roman Catholic they're put there slamming the stuff to get what I most don't say that August eight eighteen eighty seven will appeared as Ahmed Ben Ali public at a theater in the desert yet OK and member he took this from a guy bay so the band nowadays so it's early so he wore a long dark brown wig in a full beard Egyptian headdress and a full white robe just that a lot of that was just like Ali had the address and stuff and he practiced black our will and I started calling themselves Mr. and Mrs. William Robinson which made it easier to travel together and share a hotel room because if they were married they can share hotel I think it's frowned upon at that time yeah meanwhile Bessie found love with another vaudeville performer Hugh Lee also said telling people that they were married and they lived in Manhattan ok real magic Heinrich Keller was from Erie Pennsylvania here is that he ran away from home he was eleven sold dry goods worked at a printing press the wet and small favors in Manhattan Henry loved magic he got a job as the magician's assistant at a place and learned the trade trade yes I think I wrote that that's not I I at age eighteen killer set out on his own it didn't go well he struggled he lost all his money and ended up hopping on freight trains oh and they brought to town documents guys to give them free like printing press and stuff to promote a show in city get on the back end of the back and being gone yeah in Beaver Dam Wisconsin he is black in there actually yeah oh yeah he rented a hall on the second floor of a building an on stage you realize that his small audience was made entirely of creditors o hide so at intermission his props out of the window on a rope down that he was a limited this random checks on all good I won't and the focus the blog on the still determined killer got a job or through a printing press on a runaway freight train can be easy but that still determined killer got a job with the originators of the seance act learn their tricks and after two years he set out again he tore the south Mexico and South America he did two full world tours making and losing fortunes on the way the good Lord had fun yeah it was a big man by the eighteen eighties is light brown hair was almost gone and he had an oversize mustache L Frank bomb based the title character from The Wizard of Oz on Keller Keller did not like Herman ok faking a pompous fake and this made Keller work harder to be the best day he's a solid show men but not really a skillful musician magician to get a thick stubby fingers can to get to know you got have slight of the God of the quick movement he's got a little fucking Trump and bop around and smash and shit allow the DEP said he proposed it does have the the eye the Dow the the just goes in all drawn to a doctor make the dough and the are juz make them bigger to have finger implants hands make them bigger please pull out pull him out yet come back so I try to blow into his thumb like that weird trick the eye so he was always second best Herman now the success of Black art brought will interest from both Herman and Keller okay Herman then announced a new tool or with his two new illusions black art and let cook on which is also something else that was in Will and dot Act okay okay and I didn't write it all down there's a lot of descriptions of how they did their tricks and share it some point that it's pouring right but that was basically just somebody was doing it she was doing jobs line of dot was the one going in the cocoon cocoon and ranch so he basically just copied this from well Zach Keller then hired and ought to do black art as well as worked backstage on his show ok so he's legit Keller yet World tours last and made millions but he's up and coming still the governor announced his tour of quote the wonderful Keller monarch of the high class of priests digit a sian lo that is listed in the survey for autographed Keller didn't like Will's choice of name in ethnicity for The Black Ark och med Ben Ali of Egypt was out and Will was now a non shy he from India wow he really got worse AI AI nah she he was billed as the east in the neck romance are in Oriental cultures them just so specific yet a super and leaving me about it but the same fucking back just in the same actors are different but that's a great way to do shit people change and yeah yeah change the name of the album when Herman and Keller were playing in the same city Herman's Torre manager found Will an offer too
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