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S01 Update: Day 02, Adnan Syed’s Hearing

S01 Update: Day 02, Adnan Syed’s Hearing

Update: 2016-02-0528
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February 2016: Sarah Koenig ducks back into the Adnan Syed case for a few days. There’s a hearing in Baltimore—a court proceeding that’s been nearly sixteen years in the making. Syed’s attorney will introduce new evidence, and present a case for why his conviction should be overturned. Sarah and producer Dana Chivvis will discuss what happens, day by day.

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can we back in your radar yeah I'm I really like it in here now I just am here all night irate say today was the second day of eye of the hearing yes house how to go fer e today the day really went after her you know today was mostly the state's cross examining her and they really attacked her testimony in a bunch of ways in one of the things they brought up was this whole snow issue because remember when I talk to her on the phone that I you know when I was reporting this trait she called me she said she remembered that day specifically January thirteen to nineteen ninety nine the day he goes missing the day he goes missing she remembered seeing and not in the library and she said to me because of the snow remember that ye are eight yeah shes like I remember because it was this the first snow of the year and there was all the snow and the state today and the prosecutor he was like Are you sure you have the right day because there wasn't snow that day was their key sort of reference which she had said to me and I mean that the thousand we had a question about two she was very clear with you she got snowed in at her boyfriend's house and then the next two days or snow days says she's very clear that he ties his memory to to the snout rate for that yet so we kind of wondered about that yet because we looked up the weather ray and it hadn't snowed it had snow there was a horrible ice storm that had started like in the wee hours of the next morning but there wasn't snow was it was it was terrible weather and it was like a big emergency in Baltimore but it was an ice storm and so she CA I mean she she did a fairly good job with it I mean she just said like Yeah I don't know I know it was bad weather I'm not sure if it was snow or ice or whatever I just remember it was like how's it is bad weather school was canceled after that after that choosing I remember I was happy about it because I had used the excuse of bad weather as a reason to stay later at my boy friend Eric's house and my mom bought it and the Jews again I remember because I'd stayed out later I was happy that and school was cancelled for the next two days so it sounded pretty specific Fanny in effect actually high it out I know I have to say she was very cool and collected about it it was an eye she didn't seem frazzled or freaked out or shoes just like aso noe bout of snow eyes and I know is bad weather ha yes she seemed totally she seemed completely confident in her memories even when I was thinking like that even when I was thinking like way a man at the scene by the image file oh well so what happens yet well so the other the main thing that happened that at least was new to me as a theory about Asia's alibi and that made me think like Wait a minute let me rethink this and in fact I asked you guys to go scrambling back to the records that we have our detective solves this is the Jew on stuff yes the chew on stuff because the prosecutor of the garage and went after her for a long time about the second letter that she wrote with nine right after he got so instead so we just take a step back and explain what these letters are that you're talking about so the it so easy route and nine and two letters she wrote in the first letter the day after he was arrested I think March first nineteen ninety nine and um and that says this handwritten note where she sort of saint him I've just been here how severe your parents and I want to tell you that I remember talking to you that day January thirteen nineteen ninety nine I remember seeing you in the library so then the next day he she writes him another letter this one is a little bit different it's a lil bit longer it's hyped up she seems to be writing it in like from one of her classes at school and in that one eye she sort of reiterate again like I remember seen you in library that day so let me know if you need need to speak up about that Graham said today that the second letter the typed one was was the issue today said the state is really pressing her over and over to say Are you sure you really wrote this letter on March second because it stated more second and in fact is stated on air is a three page letter at the bottom of each page it says March second and she keep saying yes yes I am yet and he's pointing to things in the letter that suggest it was written later maybe and that's just it was written later because she's got all of this fairly specific information about an ons case in about the the crime in the way the crime unfolded and he suggesting like how would you have known all this stuff isn't that what were some of the things the prosecutor was pointing to the letter as like how would you know this or that there were several things one was she she notes that hay was found in a shallow grave and another was that's when she talks about someone else referencing fibers from Ed nine on his body said the prosecutor is saying like it's too soon for any of those details that have been out in the public two days after Adnan has been arrested right that what he's been saying that's what he is suggesting in fact he's not really correct about that because then Justin Brown and non defense attorney stood up after that and showed exhibits of Baltimore Sun stories dated prior to Asia's letter that talk about these that have these very phrases in them shallow grave no leaking park that USA so that didn't hold up very well but but there was one thing that in this is the thing that I was like hm n that is he's asking her did none ever contact you from jail and she's like No and he says did he ever call you know D you know send you letters she's like No and he says Well how do you explain if a non never contacted EO how would you explain Notes From A from A detectives interview with a non friend this is a kid named John Gordon and in these notes it says that Joo Wan told the cops that had nine had written a letter to a girl and faster to type it up but she got the address raw and what does that mean like what does that say what is and why he's try well I think he was trying to imply that had no on has had contacted Asia and had asked her to type up this letter in this way this March Second Letter button but he's implying it wasn't actually written March second it was written perhaps weeks later I though that maybe engine either and that may be a non asked her to write this type to type up this letter haha yeahh and i was able was that mean does that mean she doesn't remember what she thinks she remembers or does that mean she's a lying or are we or an unknown did reset did contact her and what is at me you know and so you know it started it starts to make her very pure story about being just a potential alibi who who wanted to step forward and do the right thing to like look like something slightly different and so that's why I asked you guys to look up notes from that detectives interview with Chuan Kai so so I'm looking at the detective notes from their interview with Chuan on April ninth and they didn't record that interview so I'm all about are these kind of like cryptic detectives notes it's all just read those teal and this is what they say I think this is what the prosecutor is referencing it says I wrote a letter and remember at this time in on is in jail um so in honor of May letter he called yesterday but I wasn't home written on back he wrote a letter to a girl to type with his address on it but she got it wrong and then there's an address one o one East eager Street which is the incorrect address for Central booking and then it says Asia with a question mark twelfth grade I got one just a matter of one and Justin and there was a friend of mines and I guess was was Asia's ex boyfriend but um I'm just saying like those are pretty cryptic and I can also see that note as implying that aid nine read a letter to curl and asked her Could you please give my friends the address so that they can write me letters and that's all it means that's true that's true I mean right then she had a strong and it's like I can just imagine how this could play out in a totally innocent different way from what the prosecutor seems to be suggesting the one that sounds to me as he wrote a letter to a girl to type up and I don't know it's true it's not clear it's not clear what this totally means but here's the thing it raises it does make you pause Ray and that's his entire point that's that's the prosecutor's entire point is that I can throw a bunch of suspicion on Asia story in all these various ways and if I can do it here before you today in this hearing that means the prosecutors back in a non criminal trial back in nineteen ninety nine two thousand could on the same thing said the state is showing look maybe she's not such an ironclad alibi after all and if she's not such an ironclad alibi then maybe Christina Gutierrez did have a very good reason for not pursuing her it wasn't a mistake it was a strategy that's what he's trying to show but so what did you think is you buy that I write I buy it I mean I would say um I don't think that he liked proved it she didn't write the letter in March second or anything like that and she seemed very comfortable just saying I don't know what you want those notes about you one mean but I wrote this letter March second I never heard from an on leash is just was very forthright about it or seem very forthright about it I should say and I but it did you know it did make me think like hah well it does make you wonder what could've happened a trial and whether it would have been the slam dunk for a non necessarily in a cohesive can we talk about the main event of the day which is the cellphone testimony which have been waiting patiently to get him I know I so wished you were there today are obviously pose like I was like data would be eating this off I was like drooling her way through I mean it's it was hard to tell you is that of flying home so it's really important is the thing but it's just it's hard to sink your teeth into in terms of emotion you know but I know it with I mean it yeah it was interesting so basically today there was not a big bomb shell on this issue but I think they're setting the stage for one so which turns out that the eighteenth he sells her ass the eighteen t cell tower expert who testified at a non original trial in two thousand it turns out that there was this disclaimer on those records on a on a fax cover sheet for those records back in nineteen ninety nine that said you can't use incoming calls they're not reliable for location status incoming calls are not reliable for location status and why that's important is because the two phone calls that place and none in Lee can park at the time that J said they were burying the body are incoming calls right so what happened was this fall just recently that same cell tower expert wrote an affidavit saying I didn't know about that disclaimer about not using the incoming calls for location so now he's saying I'm not sure now about my testimony I'm not sure I could say that those two calls placed the phone and we can park so that I did not testify today actually but the defense team brought in this other expert who's who said yes you know that disclaimer was very very important and they spent a lot of the day the afternoon arguing that this state in the defense over basically the meaning of location on those cell tower records like how to interpret the word location I'm really does see that to be there for that tomorrow night as I am because no this is actually really important I had this this like cellphone disclaimer thing is is something that's bugged me for really long time time because it sort of like it if if that is in fact the case that you can't use incoming calls for location data then that kind of means there's a chance that that that cell phone was not in Lincoln Park when the prosecution that the original trial said it was so it's no it's a real problem for the state yet as a real problem if it's not true so this might really get answer tomorrow whether whether that's a real thing that you can't use incoming calls for location sound that would be really happy if they can enter that state im in the going rate Tracy is coming around ye say well the the
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S01 Update: Day 02, Adnan Syed’s Hearing

S01 Update: Day 02, Adnan Syed’s Hearing

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