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S1E2: White Rabbits

S1E2: White Rabbits

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We learn that everything isn't always what it seems in this case. New figures emerge, and the people of Ocilla are finally talking.



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when out of it was a dinner in finder because she's she's in some small fishes and some well and those who arrive because ten years now and I mean you always have hope that you are re founded this point I really doubt she ever will be the case is basically one and A J yawn as he was all this will be day and share the lessons he should go in the Depression different way is not going to the ground and that's hard to do the In an eye on the on the go today the last time anybody uh oh the the uh the from tinder for TV you are listening to up and vanished the investigation of character instead I'm your host payment see the person talking in the first segment is dusty vast sea the lead reporter for the local newspaper called the of sila store he reached out to me and offer his help we could all office in downtown Mosul in the door had no markings or signage and the intraday huge dim lit room there are buckets on the ground full of water catching the leaks from the ceiling you could tell was a place that had very many guests on the back wall was a show full car bomb newspaper are cus he was looking for two thousand thought we keep about by a stall that they persist at the The missing the boat when State Fair was reported missing at eight fifty a m Monday October twenty fourth and by that Wednesday was already in the paper really like that this is more that just as I was like that point they realize somebody just she's gone off to see what recess for a minute left me alone with our cuts as I was flipping through I notice a small piece of paper weights between two pages like a makeshift bookmark when I pulled it out I realize it was actually a piece of tears missing poster that had been cut into fours in the print day on the bottom was October twenty fourth day she was reported missing all the sudden I felt like I was in died down some big clue I was almost positive it was nothing like all dusty over in you is that the tears came on and probably not yet up right probably nothing the ferry we thought a whole bunch of like a lot of good the top of that weird is it is I'm a little bruise afford it I mean there probably are not paid to do it today as go the fewer the people that could have done was the predecessor to Christie who use to with reporters is that Christie pro at ye the stories Nicole Christie was in her eyes while he was probably nothing I still expect to find chopped up pieces of tears missing poster scattered throughout the two thousand five orca kind of weird right we both agree I before I left the city has surprise for me Paige is the podcast that made the front page of the latest paper kind of weird actually mind the to my part of know was getting talking as he makes a documentary instead the podcast to govern the last episode though my grandma's to the deer went going back to the BBQ that and this is true it's a major discrepancy and questions all my grandma said that use alt era that Saturday at the beauty pageant correct ideas for several years I read all the detergents and I don't do that in more but I was right in the pageant the afternoon he disappeared that neither he always say A he touts crew and he always hit up the girls in the pageants with them make their hair and choosing games and that sort of thing and as I was reading he and well the girls were they in the back is our dream and it was a magic school on the afternoon because I had a dinner date and how Selena the stuff with them Justine it's just you know how or even that something was really really surprised when her than the zone then did it she was missing what did you guys talk about we talk to or what did you guys say just press you know how you today is good to see you in on Vince pay them more than five minutes out just because our soul our way and I certainly would've stayed longer and more I know what was going to happen that nobody knew that unit where she go after the pageant was a student he had told him Have Paris now lives in it's an understanding is he with his style just a short while just to visit and then Lance I came to one of the principles on houses which is a couple of blocks were me up for cooking out they were doing and saying she left there probably aren't in very limited plot that nigh and it was evident that she got home her college players I believe she'd taken on some of her clothing or so for most of that I've read and from people I talk to I had never heard that she went to a student's house in between the pageant in the BBQ at her that in the towel and tie on that Hewitt of the princess just a short time is there any way to find out who this dude was trying to think what his name was one she had pole good gracious in teen years and more go and I really don't recall that was in the meantime I'll ride it she gazed into its share of run off and I don't recall if you think of it please let me know his name will probably think of it but a lot of pay and I know him as I can say plane I hope you can kinda get some new information on what was is and no parents and no have devastated they were in had devastated that the law we have no idea where to be the strangest thing you know we always hear to know first time it ever has been working so far no indication of who it could be the issue to make it seem to think the tears visit to students hours which is common knowledge but I couldn't find it anywhere she said she heard in the talk around town not the most reliable Saudi source really other than to say she heard this happens don't have anything at all was tied for second opinion when I first heard it are we I just can be found in the basis for the information now I guess you would comment Jason was why rabbits so you know that was a term I was about to give very familiar with White Rabbit ears off the leaves are in for defamation that crime investigation that lead you down the rabbit hole to know your saying it was a veteran and still may be true we just don't have any information to take that in this other than it is right now right so really you just have to call them set it aside and let it go because otherwise it just be wasting time until you get further information say is legitimate you just have to refute it but it would be very useful if it was true and we would have to know the main how the individual supreme us about the name I had nothing Reese also brought up another good point if you remember Terri did make one more stop before the BBQ that was confirmed she met her landlord's son Robert of the curve of the road only for about fifteen minutes before heading over to the BBQ was no confusing this with some student Fitzgerald as possible about robbers but he's not a former student ok so read was not a former student of tears they were about the same age and she got to read around what time was around twenty min to stay on the order they choose in the time gap is pretty small for that to happen Yao Noi in sight the whole timeline of this entire case is too narrow what's the earliest era could have left the pageantry think I would say I was a seventh lifting so does Tara stopping at a student's else for a minute cell for pets for the timeline or is it still possible are well known case unsolved cases the US with a twist and turns in it this is possible is a problem the the the the the it's really I was back to square one the delay had that name was Leno for the way to verify this ever actually happen even if I could prove is true with the need to happen that era the term White Rabbit was bouncing around my head for a couple days and just like clockwork white rabbits were falling on my lap the we have and really it's regarding red light when I got to share about why there is a lot in the E R I is one of our dear Ain and I had the outcome the top part was never a nearly died but not if I ever buy I really did not even out and about it's not even I can now sell the information like this yeah talking about Maine's March of last year family bravely one understands like God gave me a job today and I'm gonna do is nine am that man a man says yes the the new the investigators first impression was that the whole student thing was probably a white rat is much I believed in the rookie investigative mind of mine just couldn't let it go besides the fact that we didn't have a name for this guy he also said the time I was really narrow for terrorists have gone anywhere else that night but Ford is completely ruled out the head to testify so I decided to time the route that ear most likely took that either way I figure to be useful information I started at the theater and Fitzgerald were Terrell of the pageant from the aisle at the theater started driving towards us still are starting to to my first stop was Robert's else which I found out was only a couple blocks from the BBQ I actually had to drive past the house with a barbecue was held to get threats else in the nation to tear didn't just see red at the curb of the road it's likely that they had planned to meet it took thirty minutes in seven seconds to get threats house from the theater one minute and twenty two seconds to get back to the park you all the stuff was just a lot closer the thought was soft air left the pageant at seven fifteen drove straight to rats house and stayed for fifteen minutes then went to the bbq too easily arrive before seven forty five assuming that all counts for timer True to have at least fifteen minutes spare room wasn't enough time for Tara to go somewhere else for a quick fix so the was unlikely I don't know I decided to give the host interior rest for now there were some other prominent figures in this case I really need to focus on the beach a week since the former beauty queen disappeared in Georgia thirty year old high school teacher Tara grandstand was last seen at a dinner party with friends and a goddess toys this morning she's Tara sister Good morning good morning and I'm sure this is just a terrible time for you and your family can you Phyllis and a bit on the story maybe our viewers will be able to help you out the last time her sister was seen was about eleven p m on October twenty fourth when police find when we went to her home well they didn't find a lot on the house was locked herself and was back in the Chargers she always checks her cell phone with her everywhere she dies her purse and her keys were missing the car was ham but it was on Lot which is very unusual tear always kept a car wash is there any chance she might have left on her own free will was someone that she knew I think that's how it started out and then something went after that I don't know who started out to be an abduction and she was just floored at her home or she went with somebody something happened I'm just not sure but I really do feel like it is an induction at this point authorities are really frustrated because they say they haven't come close yet to calling anyone a suspect but they have questioned a couple of key people one of them being a former boyfriend of your sisters what can you tell us about him that the approximately nine months ago he has been questioned many times at length he has obtained an attorney I may have had a very bad argument I just found out several days before she went missing concerning an eighteen year old that he was dating and my sister did not think that her parents would approve of the thirty year old dating an eighteen year all I was told that she start to tell the parents and I had a very heated argument with us shortly after tear went missing the first major person of interest in this case was her ex boyfriend Marcus Harper to get you up to speed on Marcus had my friend Rob details background the Marcus Harper was tear is long term boyfriend of five years they met in nineteen through a mutual friend David and the around that time Marcus was an officer at the Salem Police Department Marcus joined the Army after the nine eleven attacks in two thousand won the He went on to become an Army in Iraq in September of two thousand five Marcus was still serving overseas but in October he returned home to a salon for three weeks the markets in tears had become pretty rocky at that point and when Marcus back home the he didn't tell Tara he was there it was during those three weeks back at home that Tara disappear the Marcus told Fox News commentator Greg of ancestor in that era had ended their relationship well before she went missing he said a little rejected at first but that we continue to be friends Harper in the televised interview with Fox described his relationship with Tara as a commitment we did not date other people he said but I was honest with her when I said I had no intentions of marriage after they broke up Markey said in the interview that she was very she told me that she found out I was dating someone she would commit suicide or right away the case that look very good despite everyone's suspicions very open to cooperate with the investigation he also has several nationally televised interviews the biggest thing to me was the time has gone overseas for several months then he comes home though sila for three weeks Eric was the only disappears Marcus did have an alibi however checked out pretty flawless but before we get into that there was one more person that really struck the interest of investigators also questioned is a man who apparently stalked her sister was arrested a year ago was that right well actually I think it was more like four to six months ago she had taught me when he was in the night Gray he had just recently graduated I think maybe I'm after her and the boyfriend broke up the Consol of the window of opportunity solitaire would never ever date a former state it and he was arrested during a break in her house and she wasn't home at the time if you're a student was stalking her their recipe trying to break in her house red flags were everywhere this person's name is Anthony Vickers he was the second person police were highly interested in the whole student thing had me from the get go I started researching as much as I could tell you on as background here's Rob again and Anthony Vickers was a former of terrorists who was engaged in some with her in the months prior shortly after and was on the Nancy Grace and discussed over the phone this interview Anthony he said very few people knew about our relationship there's probably only three or four people that actually and we knew that they would not talk at all when we would see each other I would usually go over to her house would be the easiest thing to do she would pick me go over there and just hang out watch movie or something that's kind of how we did I would like to hell you try to help a lot of times you just get scrutinized again on March thirtieth two thousand and five about six Tara went missing Mozilla police officers were dispatched a terrace house for disturbance call they received a report that someone was trying to break down door the individual Vickers based on the incident report and then was very agitated he started cussing and shouting at some watching the diggers yelled so loud the neighbor outside work about two blocks from the could hear him shouting when the officers asked Anthony to keep quiet but he refused to cooperate he was then handcuffed and arrested taken to the Irwin County detention Center I made an open records request with the Mosul police department to obtain a copy of Anthony's arrest report with all the rumors flying around this town had to verify this incident myself Chief Billy Hancock with us Philip E D was very helpful in getting this information in the report Tara had made a handwritten statement to police some of which said this Anthony's behavior was abnormal was very aggressive on this day I was very scare for my wellbeing as well as scared about Anthony Anthony invaded my privacy my home but doing so in a raging out of control manner Anthony's written statement seem to tell a different story he claimed he was actually getting in his car to leave in the police arrived and they screamed at him to step away from his vehicle he also stated that an officer ran towards them chest bump them almost knocking him over and they never once tried to resist arrest according to tears friends and family and his relationship with her was some sort of delusion or fantasy but I wondered if maybe there was some truth to it I reached out several times to Anthony for an interview but no luck in the same for Marcus Harper tears ex boyfriend these two are very tight lipped about this case honestly I could totally see why in the meantime I was able to get ahold of somebody his name is Noah Griffin new chair for several years and worked very closely with her and all the pageants I was thankful somebody close to her was willing to talk to me well to some of the chair was driven she was very determine to succeed at whatever she set out to me for that she would never Lee Evans Associates tone she's run out that another shoe and a There were saying I'm not good with Ray and I was six months at pets before I was ever a question about the GB at the GB as you know the winner have that soft in the mornin out her door she opened the door for me yet wow was I was as if from the get go when the GBI out to me they will eat in the body to take that Padgett that somebody at the party that she was a deck to sit when she lay out the hue of going home to watch the video the attention to this day don't know if there was a video of that unit is just one knowledge is it me that a distant cousin of my stepdaughter was in the patch it and he was to the arrest of a wall with any of him this be the pageant if the tear was talking about and if it is does actually help us all regardless if he still has it I want to copy this is the thing there has been around town and was so that the trees will never be known has been constantly racking my brain is on a day ago that she get money from moment to relive that day and that what happened there there was this act of terror that I didn't know yet which was very well hidden it was in factory from not to believe that it was to have people tout another gossip that people say they think is amazing that I didn't see it see it I don't know it you're saying What side are you talking about the very free with me and an I one of them was a student or the the Gators into the diggers the herd his mother occasionally say in one day she caught her climbing out his bedroom window on the hope he is anti dam the the things you guys listening to Episode two of them vanished the response from so warm was really awesome think everybody others listening as my grandma's Cowboy Cookie Contest will be announcing the winner of that on my website up and vanish dot com Go to the site click on the page called discussions on the top right and please if you haven't already great this podcast on iTunes and leave a review really helpful I would like to ask again anybody who knows anything at all about his appearance please come forward thank you to see you next time
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