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Weeds in the Wild: Sarah Goes to Kentucky

Update: 2017-02-17


In another episode of their new podcast, Sarah and Vox's Liz Scheltens explore why Obamacare enrollees in Kentucky voted for Trump.

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the the hair clip this is not quite the weeds now I am here with results and sang in the aisle as we have another episode of the other podcast that we told you about a few months ago now we spent a lot of time talking about the supporting I did in Kentucky on Obamacare and we decided there is no time like the present to give you a podcast episode because I think it becomes law or human right when you actually hear their voice as yet absolutely one of the things that we are trying out here on the needs is taking the policies that Sarah Madden as or talk about on the podcast going out into the world and seen how those policies are affecting the people so we tried to do that here and we hope you like it hope you enjoy the show so as I want you to picture this diner I went to in Kentucky a few months ago he it's like right off the interstate is a big American flag outside there's all the stuff on the walls like all these charts keys from local sports teams they support and sitting in the dining room are these three Obamacare enrollment counselors so an enrollment counselor is like someone they like volunteers or another this is their job the people who are employed by the federal government to get people signed up for Obamacare bank so these counselors are at the Statehouse and they are signing up he waiters waitresses yeah all sorts of people I'm the first person we had a meeting there was this dishwasher named Brandon Bolton and her body tells me lurch I'm six foot nine and a half to an end if you kind of picture ID of this moment Councilor Michael when you said you got something in the mail about renewing and then across the table from him is brand those really old New York Yankees sweatshirt with the Momo and Suki is their beak eyes he was using the Medicaid expansion part of Obamacare forgot to send the paperwork and is trying to get signed up a very fixable we can beat you on track so how is Medicaid which Brandon has related to Obamacare so Obamacare or expanded Medicaid it used to be before the health care lawyer to fall into a certain category to get Medicaid coverage you had to be like low income and pregnant or low income and disabled and what Obamacare did is it expanded Medicaid coverage to cover everyone below a certain income threshold so that means a whole bunch more people qualify the old system Brandon probably couldn't dilate not like able bodied grown man barely ever qualify for Medicaid now we've had fifty million people sign ups and make extensions are dead also Brandon must be like pretty excited about the law I know he hates Obamacare the last Medicaid expansion I am but he is someone who voted for Trump loves Trump you asked we thought about Obamacare are and he he said Obamacare was was was given Obama or money or her just that way you take a vacation that are given our military the weapons in the stuff they need its guests of the question I had as I'm listening to Brandon talk about this is actually one the enrollment counselor Mike he was thinking about El Sol pounded the vote for somebody that was threaten our health coverage The The The today we are going to try to answer that question I'm Michelle says I am Sir Cliff and I am here to tell you about this trip I took the Corbin Kentucky a few months ago it's this area that voted overwhelmingly for Trump but also has thousands of people who signed up for Obamacare and I wanted understand how those two things fit together talking to Brandon I thought I was starting to get it he was signing up in this room that had nothing no signs nobody is mentioning the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare so part of the reason in why someone like Brandon might be confused is a kind of marketing failure yet its source is weird thing was both like a marketing failure and marketing when when we talked to the governor the former governor of Kentucky Steve Beshear the new people Kentucky hated Obamacare we wanted to get as far away from the word Obamacare as we could use like I got a market here in the science the side here's what we're going to jail we are going to build a marketplace for Obamacare but we're never going to cost of going to call it connects the the the KY n e c t obviously a takeoff on Kentucky and connection has been a great work in a sign of everyone and like totally seem to work they signed up a lot of people I mean we we went live in and the kids came out by the thousands by the tens of thousands actually hundreds of thousands The to see Mike told us many people saying is this Obamacare neck it's a known is that okay I mean litter all intentional Bob few sky and I think there's an idea at some point of view it hides Obamacare and what water is great it's the governor for the band and veteran voted to repeal Obamacare and the theory that they are from so many people was Oh if only they had known and sick looking back a little paternalistic like look at these people if only they understood things better they would have done this differently and I think more importantly it didn't really prove true O brand and the dishwasher he was someone I met who didn't understand that his insurance came from Obamacare but he was the only one I met who fit that category ok say you met people and years hear about people you met who Mead like voting for Trump knew what they were doing hello and kept the AHL or an outreach worker for healthcare dot gov to the woman is surprised me the most was his enrollment counselor Kathy who's like super bubbly lovely lady who does the gloves are jobs and Obamacare enrollment counselor and she dressed up as a cat for homey and assigned him up and turned the trick or treating thing I'm just a fun little kitty cat but she did vote for Obama twice I voted for him because I knew that he was going to the health care and she's even used Obamacare like she doesn't assign people up she was on Medicaid for a few months when she was between jobs and she needed coverage that let's see what Obama of gaming now like interviewing her and I kind of expected ever signing people up for Obamacare you probably supported Clinton in the election and the people who know won't care but I feel like you believe the Him the throne yet but you can just hear it in my voice in the tape I recorded like Murray said the air yes any wonder she will be seeking you gotta have health and lets my belief I believe you can not go without insurance it's like wants to get the flu hit he just better go to the doctor not have insurance and see what happens if you have to have it sux ol' wow yet we spent a lot of time talking about this you can hear just keep asking the same question again and again but basically a lot of it came down to affordability in prices Kathy's like signing people up for coverage but she says the prices are just way too high for people in her area maybe it's my Lolo world but I just assumed that it would be affordable these outrageous prices they see everyday and this isn't just true in Kentucky we saw prices spike nationally in Obamacare last year a new study showing the average price for the cheapest Obamacare plan will jump fourteen percent next year with some policy spiking as high as sixty four percent in Kathy gets super frustrated by this in her job they're all going to come to me and say we can afford it we can put a new show on the plans are going to pick one and the gloves happy at all so all this was really interesting and surprising to me this Obamacare enrollment worker who voted for Trump and I want to know where these problems bigger than Kathy so I decided to tag along for her next enrollment event which is at a hospital and that's where I met one of her enrollees details of the annex there to sitting like right close to each other on this couch behind the computer and looking at what plans Debbie is going to sign her family up for in the next year so when we have the bronze rat mail or you want silver yes Debbie owns a furniture store we sell everything from GE's to dishwashers televisions we have hardware and planning in and before Obamacare health insurance was just too expensive for Debbie and her family when it therefore I guess maybe two years with no insurance until this came out she has used Obamacare the past two years it's been around and most years her family is pretty healthy but lo behold as we get sick this year Debbie's husband you told us had been diagnosed with non alcoholic cirrhosis the liver in Action is a liver transplant right now they speak and write every of insurance because I can imagine what it would be like to not have it with all the while the treatments of things he's had have done the you let me guess who she voted for we've tried the in was Debbie aware that she essentially voted to take away her own health insurance the wasn't really sure so I asked her about that the are you surprised how much Republicans are talking about repealing could you expect know you think they'll do it or you think they will be to hire I'm hoping if they don't because I mean what with havin with this go away well I will the insurance it will go well the interview and that's a promise to do and some election so I don't know I don't know what we do know is if it does still winning and keeping a home not giving me what are we today are the you know I don't know we are in havoc circling this point where the I keep asking lying the work they kept saying an appeal ethic that that factor in your decision and the buffet you know he would not do this if I would not do this without technicians that it's affecting so many peoples' last the the soul what can happen is Debbie rate to be afraid here yet I think she does have pretty good reason to be worried Republicans seem to be really committed to repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act and I read a lot of their replacement plans and have two things jump out one is the cover millions fewer people than the Affordable Care Act currently does and second is they are definitely worse for people who were older like daddy and people were sick or like her husband this is something w name we talked about when I was in Kentucky and it was I was kind of hard conversation for both of us and I guess the next four years is going to be different yes it your spirit and how the ancients heart I really want to tell her that use Wi Fi and everything was going to be ok that's kind of my human instinct and I did tell her in twenty seventeen it doesn't seem like anything will change but after that we don't really know I don't know what's going to happen to these people Kentucky we don't know what the future of healthcare for people on Obamacare looks like anymore series conversations that you've had in Kentucky with taffy and was Debbie they remind me so much of this phrase from the writer Salinas the dough which is that Trump supporters took him seriously but they didn't take him literally they believed in has a candid a calm but they didn't necessarily think he was going to do all the stuff that he said he was going to yes there was an example of literally what you're saying from Kathy of the Roman worker when I was interviewing her hand out with county says a lot of stuff I just like all politicians promise you everything and we'll see if I could get oh honey and diseases than honey and in the but it seems like in the first weeks of the Trump administration maybe we should've taken him a little that more literally came into office and he quickly wrote an executive order that looks a lot like the Muslim travel ban he promised on the campaign trail and he signed another executive order saying go ahead build that wall and now all these people Kentucky they are waiting to see whether we should have taken him literally on health care till are the the the the the thank you so much for listening this episode was produced by D fantastic bird feeder ten and was edited by Valerie of his key and Johnny Harris we also had some great engineering help from Peter Leonard in a fiend Shapiro please let us know what you thought of this episode loved it hated at what you want to hear about next time you can always reach us at weeds at Vox dot com and we will see you soon
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Weeds in the Wild: Sarah Goes to Kentucky