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The problem with the news right now? It’s everywhere. And each day, it can feel like we’re all just mindlessly scrolling. It’s why we created What Next. This short daily show is here to help you make sense of things. When the news feels overwhelming, we’re here to help you answer: What next? Look for new episodes every weekday morning.
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In 2011, a Republican majority in the Wisconsin State House faced massive protests to their plans to strip power from public sector workers. State Democrats fled across the border and the possibility of a general strike loomed.
But the strike fizzled out and the legislation ultimately passed.
And now the situation in the federal government is shaping up in a similar way. Do the workers need to break the glass and do what Wisconsin stopped short of?
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The crypto industry threw its weight and money behind Donald Trump, in hopes of legitimizing the industry. Before his Inauguration Day was over, Donald Trump was already enriching himself via a memecoin, one of the scammier, least legitimate-looking uses of crypto.
Guest: David Yaffe-Bellany, reporter covering cryptocurrency for the New York Times.
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As someone whose companies receive billions of dollars from the government, it’s worth asking why Elon Musk is so zealous about cutting government spending.
Guest: Max Chafkin, features editor and tech reporter at Bloomberg Businessweek and cohost of the Elon, Inc podcast.
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Trump's pick for labor secretary, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, is an outlier: She has experience in federal government, where she was one of three House Republicans to support the “Protecting the Right to Organize Act” to expand employees’ rights to organize and collectively bargain and she was accompanied by the head of the Teamsters when she went to visit Mar A Lago after the election.
What did her hearing tell us about how she would approach being labor secretary—while working in an administration that’s firing huge chunks of its workforce?
Guest: Tammy Kim, contributing writer at the New Yorker.
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When enough people opt out of routine vaccinations for their children, diseases that have been all but eliminated can come roaring back, as is the case with a growing measles outbreak in West Texas.
Guest: Dr. Adam Ratner, pediatrician of infectious disease in New York City and author of Booster Shots: The Urgent Lessons of Measles and the Uncertain Future of Children’s Health.
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The Justice Department ordered New York federal prosecutors to drop charges against Eric Adams, claiming his indictment was preventing him from aiding in Trump’s immigration crackdown. The move has prompted multiple high level Justice Department officials to resign, and raised concerns of a quid pro quo.
Guest: Jay Willis, Editor-in-Chief of Balls & Strikes.
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As What Next celebrates President’s Day, please enjoy this episode from our colleagues at How To. What Next will be back in your feed tomorrow.
Jeff and his family lost their home last month in the L.A. wildfires. Since then, he’s been hyperfocused on insurance claims, an epic to-do list, and finding a “temporary” place to live for the next several years. But Jeff hasn’t experienced the emotional punch of the devastation yet. In fact… he just feels numb. On this episode of How To!, Courtney Martin brings on Laurel Braitman, author of What Looks Like Bravery: An Epic Journey Through Loss to Love. In a moving (and sometimes funny) conversation, Laurel tells Jeff how she’s still processing what she lost in a 2017 wildfire, and they talk about the heartbreak, grief—and glimmers of hope—that follow the sudden loss of your family’s home.
Artwork mentioned: It’s Going Down Like a House on Fire by Nyx Coker.
If you liked this episode check out: How To Survive a Disaster.
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How To’s executive producer is Derek John. Joel Meyer is our senior editor/producer. The show is produced by Rosemary Belson, with Kevin Bendis.
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The infinite scroll has no purpose other than keeping your attention. But that doesn’t mean it’s value-neutral.
Guest: Chris Hayes, MSNBC news anchor and author of “The Siren's Call: How Attention Became The World's Most Endangered Resource.”
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Is Elon Musk’s $97.4 billion offer to buy OpenAI genuine—or an irresistible opportunity to troll Sam Altman?
Guest: David A. Fahrenthold, investigative reporter for the New York Times
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As Donald Trump’s campaign of trans panic and anti-Latin American sentiment buoyed him back to the White House, Emilia Pérez looked like a film to meet the moment. Then audiences started actually seeing it and...yikes.
Guest: Michael Schulman, staff writer at The New Yorker and author of Oscar Wars: A History of Hollywood in Gold, Sweat, and Tears.
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Among his recent executive orders, Donald Trump moved to halt aid to South Africa over a land law and extended political asylum to South Africa’s white Afrikaner population.
Where does Trump’s seemingly spotty understanding of South Africa come from? How could having close advisors who grew up in apartheid-era South Africa, like Elon Musk, influence him?
Guest: Chris McGreal, writer for The Guardian US who reported from South Africa during the end of apartheid.
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As Donald Trump has demonstrated, losing an election is no reason to admit you lost an election. In fact, in North Carolina, the Republican challenger, who lost a race for the state’s Supreme Court, is testing a bold new strategy of disqualifying ballots until he gets the result he wants. And if he succeeds, it could start a trend.
Guest: Mark Joseph Stern, Slate senior writer covering courts and the law.
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Donald Trump has a lot of similarities—and something of a bromance—with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. And those who wish to resist Trump’s Orbán-like, right-wing strongman tendencies could learn something from the resistance in Hungary.
Guest: Gábor Scheiring, former member of the Hungarian parliament and assistant professor of comparative politics at Georgetown University Qatar.
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Using Github, you can watch as government websites are brought into compliance with Donald Trump’s executive orders. Out goes the word “equity;” in comes “fair.” And health and science data, once publicly available, disappears.
Guest: Jason Koebler, cofounder of 404 Media.
Jeremy Prokop, data science advisor in the Midwest
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Elon Musk is supposed to be running several companies and a new government department—so why is he also spending money to pretend to be good at video games?
Guest: Drew Harwell, tech reporter for the Washington Post.
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You can’t doubt the enthusiasm of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency. You can question the legality of some of their early moves.
Guest: Makena Kelly, senior writer at WIRED.
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Last week, Donald Trump announced that Guantanamo Bay would be used to house the “worst criminal illegal aliens” and claimed that it would be drastically scaled up to hold as many as 30,000 people. In addition to its infamous role in the War on Terror, it’s the latest use of Gitmo as an immigration deterrent—and legal grey zone.
Guest: Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps.
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Why did the US Agency for International Development (USAID), which gives money to humanitarian causes around the world and accounts for roughly half of one percent of the federal budget, end up in DOGE’s crosshairs? And is its abrupt closure legal?
Guests: Franco Ordoñez, White House Correspondent for NPR. Fred Kaplan, Slate’s war stories correspondent.
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America hadn’t had a major commercial airline crash since 2009 until the mid-air collision over the Potomac. Is this a sign of a larger problem that will require government intervention—and will Congress prioritize safety over convenience for their constituents and themselves?
You can read Dan’s 2023 article, “Everyone Seems to Agree a Major Plane Crash is Coming. Why?” on Slate.
Guest: Dan Kois, writer at Slate and author of five books.
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Trump and his allies in the House’s flurry of anti-trans legislation and executive orders will soon run into both the law and the reality that our institutions like the military really rely on trans people.
Guests:
Major Alivia Stehlik, Director of Holistic Health and Fitness for the 101st Airborne Division.
Kate Sosin, LGBTQ+ reporter at The 19th.
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The artificial intelligence industry was thrown for a loop when the Chinese start-up DeepSeek rolled out a product that was more energy efficient, cheaper to produce, and open source. Where did DeepSeek come from, and are Silicon Valley and Washington right to be panicking?
Guest: Zeyi Yang, senior writer at WIRED.
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Did the Chinese artificial intelligence start-up Deepseek just blow up the A.I. world as we know it? Or is it just a cheap knock-off?
Guest: Lizzie O’Leary, host of the Slate podcast What Next TBD.
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Tapped by Trump for the role of health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. presents himself as someone willing to say what other politicians won’t. But during his Senate confirmation hearings, both Democrats and Republicans questioned his previous statements about vaccines—and questioned whether he even knows what the job he’s trying to get entails. But his nomination signals that maybe it isn’t about vaccines - it’s about wanting to blow up the whole healthcare establishment.
Guest: Dan Diamond, White House correspondent for The Washington Post
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Tulsi Gabbard’s political career is truly singular: once a young progressive Democrat on the rise, then a gadfly taking surprise meetings with Bashar al-Assad, now she’s Donald Trump’s nominee to head up National Intelligence. Along the way, Gabbard has given almost everyone a reason not to vote for her.
Guest: Elaine Godfrey, staff writer covering national politics for The Atlantic.
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Trump’s Office of Management and Budget sent a memo directing federal agencies to “temporarily pause all activities related to … disbursement of all Federal financial assistance,” which threw everything from Meals on Wheels to the rebuilding of a Rhode Island bridge into a state of confusion.
What seems clear is that Congress has already stipulated how this money should be spent—and the president doesn’t have the power to change that.
For more on the legal mess that’ll follow this news, head over to the Amicus feed. Dahlia Lithwick just dropped an emergency episode.
Guest: Karen Tumulty, political columnist for The Washington Post.
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The Trump administration’s fight against diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs is underway, and it’s proving to be even broader and further-reaching than anticipated. What’s at stake for these programs—and why are so many Americans glad to see them go?
Guest: Farah Stockman, member of the New York Times Editorial Board, author of American Made: What Happens to People When Work Disappears
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Between Trump’s broad pardon for January 6 rioters and Facebook loosening restrictions on its platforms, it’s looking much easier for militia groups like the Oathkeepers and Proud Boys to recruit members, organize, and carry out violence.
Guest: Josh Kaplan, reporter for ProPublica.
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Artificial intelligence is coming to a doctor’s office near you—if it isn’t already there, working in an administrative role. Are you ready for generative A.I. to help your doctor diagnose you? Is your doctor ready to listen—with the necessary mix of humility and skepticism?
Guest: Geoffrey Fowler, Washington Post tech columnist.
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Choice seats for Donald Trump’s second inauguration were filled with tech founders and CEOs, signaling their importance to this presidential term. Then Elon Musk sent another signal of his own…
Guest: Nitish Pahwa, staff writer for business and tech at Slate.
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The Department of Government Efficiency was made to Elon Musk’s specifications, right down to its meme-indebted name. Now that DOGE is shaping up to be an actual part of the government, what can it actually accomplish? And isn’t this all a huge conflict of interest for Elon Musk and his many government contracts?
Guest: Teddy Schleifer, New York Times reporter on billionaires.
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Donald Trump talked a lot about immigration while on the campaign trail and as his second term begins, he’s getting to work: declaring a national emergency on the border, designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations, and partially suspending asylum and refugee programs.
Guests:
Jose Olivares, investigative journalist and immigration reporter.
Arelis Hernandez, immigration reporter at the Washington Post, based in Texas.
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On the day he was inaugurated, Donald Trump set about signing executive orders on birthright citizenship, the TikTok ban, and withdrawing from various international bodies, treaties and accords. Has he shown up to test out the awesome powers of the executive branch—or was he just showing off for his fans?
Guest: Deborah Pearlstein, Director, Program in Law and Public Policy and Charles and Marie Robertson Visiting Professor in Law and Public Affairs at Princeton.
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Last October, Amazon CEO and billionaire owner of the Washington Post Jeff Bezos swooped in to halt the publication of a Kamala Harris endorsement from the editorial board. Yesterday, he appeared in the front row at Trump’s second inauguration. The paper’s hemorrhaging subscribers—and laying off dozens of staff members—but it seems like the internal unrest has just begun.
Guest: Maxwell Tani, journalist covering media for Semafor.
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As Donald Trump and his coterie return to the White House, everyone seems confident they know what levers to pull to get Trump to do what they want. The only issue, then, is what other members of Trumpworld want.
Guest: Ben Mathis-Lilly, senior writer at Slate
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Looking for up-to-the-minute updates on where the fires are, LA residents have been turning to the app Watch Duty, rather than getting updates directly from the local or state government, or even local media.
Guests:
David Merritt, cofounder and CTO of Watch Duty
Alyssa Jeong Perry, LA-based producer for Slate.
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Misinformation, disinformation, politics—Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg is not going to shield users from those anymore. What’s behind the abrupt change in direction?
Guest: Sheera Frenkel, New York Times tech reporter
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After being “close to a deal” for so long, Israel and Gaza have officially reached a second ceasefire agreement. Is this the end of the war? And what does it say about Gaza’s future?
Guest: Graeme Wood, staff writer at The Atlantic and lecturer in political science at Yale.
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How did an investigation into an effort to violently overturn a US presidential election end up coming out as a whimper, well after it could have carried any weight or legal repercussions?
Guest: Jay Willis, editor-in-chief at Balls and Strikes.
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How could Donald Trump make good on his vow to end birthright citizenship, currently a constitutional right? It starts with a willing judiciary.
Guest: Isabela Dias, immigration reporter for Mother Jones.
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The fires in Los Angeles may end up being one of—if not the most—expensive natural disasters in American history. Everyone is trying to find the party responsible. It isn’t that simple.
Guest: Gabrielle Canon, climate reporter and extreme weather correspondent for The Guardian US.
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How the FCC and its incoming head, Brenden Carr, could enact Trump’s top policy goal: punishing anyone who says mean stuff about Trump.
Guest: Drew FitzGerald, telecom reporter for the Wall Street Journal.
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Will a First Amendment defense keep TikTok running in America?
Guest: Emily Baker White, tech reporter for Forbes.
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With Republicans holding the House, the Senate, and the presidency, cabinet confirmation hearings may be the most prominent place for Democrats to make a stand.
Guest: Chris Murphy, US senator for Connecticut.
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After a summer on the receiving end of the internet’s ire, Blake Lively is back in the news, as her relationship with her former director and co-star Justin Baldoni has taken a turn for the litigious.
Guest: Heather Schwedel, staff writer at Slate.
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After nine years as Canada’s prime minister, Justin Trudeau has resigned. Has Canada joined much of the rest of the world by jettisoning its progressive leadership, or does Trudeau’s career tell a different story?
Guest: Jesse Brown, editor and publisher of Canadaland.
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Though their physical caliphate has been gone for more than five years, the terrorist organization ISIS has survived—through propaganda, in chatrooms, and as an inspiration and cheerleader for actions like the New Years’ Eve attack in New Orleans.
Guest: Colin P. Clarke, Director of Research at The Soufan Group, a nonprofit research group focusing on global security, author of “After the Caliphate: The Islamic State and the Future Terrorist Diaspora.”
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Cryptocurrency spent generously on this last election cycle, and now they’ve got their top pick in the White House, and wins across Congress. Where is the industry looking to go with these favorable, regulatory winds?
Guest: David Yaffe-Bellany, tech reporter covering the crypto industry for the New York Times.
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On Christmas Eve a fracas erupted on X, when Elon Musk posted in favor of H1-B visas for specialized and high-skill workers and was met with anger from the MAGA base who view the visas as a way for immigrants to take American jobs.
Guest: Ryan Mac, tech reporter for The New York Times and the coauthor of the book “Character Limit How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter.”
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Dispensing aid in the Gaza Strip is becoming increasingly difficult. No one knows this better than Hani. On a professional level, his employer, UNRWA—the main supplier of food, water, and shelter to Gazans over the last year—is banned from operating come 2025. On a personal note, his brother Mahmoud was killed in what Hani believes to have been a targeted strike while operating a soup kitchen for hungry neighbors.
Guest: Hani Almadhoun, senior director of philanthropy at UNRWA USA.
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Happy New Year! What Next resumes regularly scheduled programming tomorrow, but for the holiday, check out this episode of How To! from December: How To Exorcise Your Fitness Demons.
Sandy is a former college athlete who knows how to exercise—at least, she used to. These days, she’s feeling lost without a coach, a workout plan, or much free time. On this episode of How To!, Carvell Wallace brings on Danielle Friedman, author of Let’s Get Physical and a contributor to the New York Times Well section. Danielle explains how to embrace movement that you love, make it fit into your life—and actually stick with it.
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Unsubscribing from this podcast. Sanewashing an incoming dictator and his acolytes and ignoring the significant success had by Democrats in the down-ballot races. I can get this garbage at NYT, MSNBC and CNN.
It would be incredible to actually have a cure for sickle cell, so I'm cautiously optimistic about future reporting on more cases.
The proliferation of all types of sanctioned gambling in the last few years is shocking. Is it possible many people are just hoping their opinions will create a big payoff, rather than engaging in their actual lives to impact outcomes?
Wow, it's amazing that private funding can find ways and means to harness such immense power when it's related to new technologies that may profit them greatly. Imagine if these kind of resources were put toward societal infrastructure, such as the general power grid. 🤷🏼♀️
I wonder, if we ever get to a ubiquity of self-driving cars, how that might change the use of the highway system as well as the structure of car ownership. Barring that, it's a shame more cities/regional hubs don't invest in better mass transit options.
well at least the students don't have to listen to the crazy preachers and anti abortion protesters w/ their fuckt signs
Economical and minimally invasive cancer screenings that are effective could revolutionize medicine and change health outcomes for not just young people today, but generations to come.
how bad is it? it is an assault on the Right of Justice itself.
Anyone tried the Terabox mod APK? Thoughts?
Such a tired argument, blaming video games yet again.
This was uninformed, facile blather. Where were the facts about actual amounts and rates of consumption?
The host speaks as if everything she says is salacious gossip. It'd be more tolerable and credible if she would just speak like an adult.
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I am baffled how the most religious white people in the US support an evil person like Trump. They are totally brainwashed. Wake up people! You are worshipping the devil.
SlateStarCodex? Really? Losing respect for this show
Very good analysis of what’s on the news. Detailed, thoughtful, objective.
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love this guest, she's so right
Hello. Survivers of the present past.. 22-18-2021.
Lots of interesting points raised.
The school renaming was so stupid! I live in San Francisco and my children attend public school. Their school is amazing with hyper qualified and dedicated professionals. The school board is worthless. As was their name change "research" ie the placement of Lafayette (a universally revered anti slavery French general) on the list. I love how progressive the city is but priorities are often questionable.
The advertising is irrelevant. I am not looking for a life that matters. Stop the hospice advertising from New York.
Hi, What's next for Haiti and France? Instead of looking for US dollars to fix Haiti problems. What other countries are helping Haiti and if so how? Thank you.
I hope full approval will help end the confusion about getting vaccinated. We need to get schools opened and maybe full approval will help.
Andrew cuomo much less fredo won't get into a lick of trouble bc they are democrats...bunch of bull he should of been taken down long ago
I wonder if these morons remember Kamala Harris saying she wouldnt trust the vaccine if trump said it was safe. you fuck head liberals are the problem
I do find another facet of this story interesting that you addressed in a couple of sentences; the academic criticisms her work drew- that her work & the NYT publications were fact checked by actual historians who specialize in African American and slave history and found problematic assertions without evidence or evidence to the contrary but were ignored. These historians were asked by NYT to fact check before publication. I understand that the politics of the situation of her not getting hired are definitely real and part of the issue, but it would have been negligent to hire a journalist professor who didn't fact check their own work or deliberately ignored evidence, context, and info that was contrary to what they wanted to say. That makes for a troubling model for students and future journalists. I think a story like this would also be worth pursuing. Here's just one article I read: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/06/1619-project-new-york-times-mistake-122248
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are you serious? quite irresponsable opinions here
Dang, I never even heard of Substack! Might have to check it out... altho I probably won't because I tend to enjoy podcasts more than blogs at this point. I don't even read Reddit or Medium, and those were in my awareness long before this one. I just realized I might be an old person pretending to be younger than I actually am.
I'm in the minority (if Mary's intro assessment is correct) of people not following the trial. And, contrary to her suggestion, I am not finding it difficult to avoid. I am following proceedings selectively as an act of self-care. As a Black person in her 60s, I've followed many trials of white homicidal police officers. after a year of pandemic and insurrection my nerves can't take much more stress. thank you for an informative, fairly low key report. I feel up to date and you didn't make me cry.
I will listen to this but I hate the title and titles like it. when will media tire of using negativity to trigger clicks? if the info on MI is valuable, we will gladly consume it without you scaring or alarming or depressing me first. what about non-worriers like myself: should we just pass on this episode? what does the title even mean in real terms? is it possible to calibrate "worry"?
the more I hear of the Gaetz story the less interested I am. this What Next coverage has pushed me over the edge. I am officially finished following this story.
one of the things I hate most about current era journalism is the trend toward inviting someone to speak at length on a topic without ever providing their credentials. to my mind, it's another version of fake news. I was offered no reason to put any faith in anything he said. to think of all the legitimate experts you might have chosen...but you chose this guy? because he wrote an essay?
listening to Oni Blair's passion intelligence and authenticity was inspiring. she is amazing.
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I really related to this particular episode. While all the podcasters and journalists and tv news teams have spent the last year locked inside, bemoaning their boredom and loneliness and juggling home/life balance from the couch, even as they celebrate all this extra time for learning new skills or getting in touch with their inner selves... This has not been my lived experience. Not much has really changed in day-to-day Dayton, Ohio. My husband was a manager for a cell phone retail company at the start of the pandemic, and has since maneuvered into a management position with a cable company. Both places of employment considered their businesses essential, so my husband's schedule did not change one iota. The only difference he saw was when he had to respectfully kick customers out of his stores for not wearing masks -- even while offering to assist these dingdongs at the curb (he's a lot nicer than I am -- and much more foolhardy). As for me, I deliver for DoorDash, and that of course
thanks for this glimpse into a unique demographic. even as I listened with gratitude and empathy, my heart sank: look at the way the officials elected to serve these people are resisting paying them better. all the more important to oust the anti-democracy elements of leadership.