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Each week Jules and Stocks uncover the latest narratives behind your favourite podcasts, and discuss neoteric news in podcasting, audio and tech. Behind The Podcast, is the official podcast of the Australian Podcast Awards and is a DM Podcasts production.
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This week the pod-nerds, Jules and Stocks, were worried there wasn't much to talk about. But then along came Megan Markle, Sora and the 'Daddy of all podcasts'. All the big movers and shakers are present - and providing ample fodder for the gents to chew through.
[01:30] Lemonada sign Megan Markle and will publish all Archetypes podcast episodes
[05:20] Brene Brown also leaving Spotify
[06:56] Alex Cooper on the Success of Call Her Daddy
[10:53] YouTube Domination
[17:06] It's been a big week for mindblowing AI - with launch of Sora and Real News Podcast
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This week the pod nerds enjoy a last face-to-face chat before Jules' summer of lerve comes to an end and he returns to frosty Scotland. They approve of the Kelce brothers mobilising the Swifties, they dive into the poorly timed layoffs at Sirius XM, changes to Spotify for Podcasters, what NOT to talk about on podcasts and which Aussie brands are advertising on podcasts.
[00:59] Taylor Swift Fans rig Podcast of the Year
[03:54] Layoffs at Sirius XM
[04:55] Changes to the Spotify Platform for Podcasters
[10:18] Companion Podcast Trend Continues
[13:52] Don't Go There Topics for Podcasters
[16:33] Top Aussie Pod Advertisers
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Much for the pod nerds to talk about in this weeks episode, including Joe Rogan's new podcast deal, Spotifie's Q4 resutls and their new strategy. Plus, start saving for the iHeart Pod Awards and the ultimate true crime recommendation.
In this weeks episode:
[01:37] Joe Rogan and Alex Cooper are no longer exclusive, Spotify Improving their margins & HOW SPOTIFY”S PODCAST BET WENT WRONG
[09:56] The Podwinter continues
[11:29] Triton Podcast Report
[13:42] Acast blocks YouTube
[15:12] iHeart Podcast Awards
[20:21] Podcast Recommendation: Who Killed JFK
What do you think of the Smartless Podcast Deal?
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The lads are back for 2024 with season 5 of Behind the Podcast - distilling and dissecting the biggest stories from the week in tech, podcasting and media.
In this weeks episode:
[00:40] The Smart Money Is on Smartless
[06:04] Amazon and Netflix get into live sport
[11:05] Apple’s download numbers nosedive, The incredible shrinking podcast industry & Spotify spits the dummy
[17:35] Podcasting in the world of AI & Will.i.am AI Partner
[20:50] NPR is hiring again
What do you think of the Smartless Podcast Deal?
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It's the last episode for the year so Jules is drinking mulled wine and Stocks is singing carols, but it doesn't look like Spotify will be getting any presents this year. The friends unpack the recent stock sell-off by Spotify ex-CFO Paul Vogel and the future for 'big green', plus some predictions for YouTube and end of year recommendations.
[01:34] Spotify's CFO is out days after mass layoffs, Spotify's former podcast boss calls out the company for setting 'money on fire' with costly celeb deals, The casualties of the podcasting bloodbath
[11:35] Latest Features of YouTube Music
[17:39] How Rap’s Elder Statesmen Took Over Podcasting, TV, and Everything Else
[19:54] Tyler Goodson of ‘S-Town’ Podcast Is Shot Dead in Police Standoff
[21:07] Apple names Wiser than Me Podcast of the Year
Holiday Listening Recommendations
From Stocks: Marc Maron - Taika Waititi
From Jules: The Rest is Entertainment
From Producer Mandy: The New Gurus, Violation, Hooked on Freddie, Rupert: The Last Mogul
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This week's episode is like a small cup of gelato with two scoops - full of flavour and easy to binge. Jules and Stocks jump into the hot topic of Spotify's very fresh lay offs and then serve up the tastiest pod stories of the week including Spotify vs Apple end of year wraps.
[01:09] Spotify lay offs
[06:01] ‘Never too late’: WA cops launch podcast to catch cold case killers
[10:12] NPR names new podcast chief as network seeks to regain footing
[11:54] Spotify vs Apple Wrapped
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In this week's episode, Jules and Stocks breakdown the winners and losers from the recent Australian Podcast Awards. They talk ad-blockers in podcasts and the lack of regulation that still exists in this space, and how optimistic they both are about the opportunities for content creators and podcasters in Australia. Plus, the sad wash up from the Pushkin staff lay offs and how scaling up should not be left to venture capitalists.
[01:23] The Australian Podcast Awards Winners
[09:49] TikTok Cards
[12:15] Auddia Skips Podcast Ads For a Subscription
[17:51] Room For Podcast Growth in Australia and UK
[19:59] Ex Pushkin Employee on Why They Left
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It's another big week in the world of Podcasting and Jules and Stocks have all the goss, including advertising trends in Australia, some AI in podcasting mishaps and fashion advice for the Australian Podcast Awards.
[01:44] Australia’s top podcast advertisers revealed Mumbrella
[06:11] Goodpods removes AI-generated descriptions
[8:23] Pushkin Industries’ Podcast Workers Form Union - Hollywood Reporter and
Malcolm Gladwell’s Media Empire Is Being Torn Apart - Daily Beast
[13:55] Podcast Workers Australia's Freelance Podcast Rate Card
[16:33] Ben Shapiro and the conservative podcasters after his throne - The Verge
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Stocks and Jules get stuck into another chewy episode full of the latest podcast news, along with the usual hot takes and solid recommendations.
Mentioned this week:
[01:28] Spotify Fan Study Report
[10:36] How Apple Shaped Podcasting
[13:38] TikTok integrates with Spotify, Apple and Amazon
[16:46] Top 50 podcast in the US
[21:46] Stocks missed a recommendation from his list in last week's episode (see below)
[23:30] When will podcasts overtake humanity?
Recommendations:
Acquired: Stratchery episode
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This week has Stocks post swim and Jules sipping Scotch by the fire, as they tuck into the biggest Podcasting stories of the week. Plus, we find out the surprising news that Jules is a genuine MAFS fan and the guys give us their 'best podcasts of the year' lists.
Mentioned this week:
[02:21] James Corden strikes deal for new podcast with SiriusXM
[05:07] Trevor Noah is NOT going to create an echo chamber
[06:51] Joe Rogan's big Spofify Decision
[14:04] SBS Insight to get its own podcast
[15:08] Directors rewatch their films
[18:17] The Economist Goes Behind a Paywall
Recommendations:
Stocks and Jules Best Podcasts of the Year
NEWS
(S) The Rest is Politics
(S) This Week on the Internet
(J) Podlitical
KNOWLEDGE & EDUCATION
(S) Acquired
ENTERTAINMENT
(S) Culture Club
(S) Mamamia Out Loud
(S) The Watch
(J) Search Engine
(J) The Drop with Osman Faruqi
SPORT
(S) 6 Trophies
(S) No Laying Up
(J) The Pool Room with Tony Armstrong
(J) Owned with Rex Chapman
TRUE CRIME/ SCRIPTED
(S) Sherlock and Co
(J) Scamanda
(J) The Kinahans
GUILTY PLEASURE
(S) Heavy Hands
(J) McCartney: A Life in Lyrics
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This week it's coffee for Stocks and red wine for Jules as they settle in for a long chat about the state of play in podcasting this week (with a small side of NBA musings). Brittany has been on high rotation for Stocks, we get inside info on how TikTok is taking on YouTube and the lads get fired up about what not to put on your 'best of' end of year podcasting lists.
Mentioned this week:
[03:16] The Brittany Spears Audiobook (find on Spotify Premium) and the meme that has gone viral from it.
[08:11] This app is making podcasts more TikTokable
[15:15] Why Wondery is so successful
[22:08] Fair Enough on Nan's Favourites on how they were cancelled by Spotify
[23:07] What is the Optimal Number of Ads in an Audio Ad Break?
[25:25] Don't put these podcasts on your end of year lists. Just don't.
Recommended:
Audiobook: The Moon's a Balloon David Niven
Nan's Fav's - Ep 28 Lachlan Fairbairn: Getting His Podcast Cancelled.
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As Jules settles in to Scottish life and a reduction in sunlight, Stocks prepares to jump on the Fast TV train. This week the pair discuss some big new podcasts on the way and the most significant podcast new of the week, including Apple's change in download data collection and Spotify's promising financial outlook.
Mentioned this week:
[02:20] Mia Khalifa ‘dropped from Playboy podcasting deal’ after Israel-Palestine comments
[05:27] Jon Stewarts Show on Apple is Ending
[07:47] Apple considers selling ads on original shows
[09:33] Apple’s latest iOS update could have a big impact on podcast downloads
[11:39] Wondery launches three podcast FAST channels on Amazon Freevee
[15:35] Suge Knight Launching ‘Collect Calls’ Podcast From Prison
[18:43] Spotify Reports Second Quarter 2023 Earnings
Podcasts to Look Out For:
WWE Hall of Famer The Undertaker to launch podcast
The latest from the makers of Serial - The Kids of Rutherford County
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With Jules still settling into his new digs in Scotland, Stocks grabs the reins and brings in Spotify's Content Partnership Lead, Prithi Dey for a chat all things 'Big Green'. If you're a podcast creator who wants to know how to get noticed and hear what genres are trending on Spotify this episode is for you.
Podcast Recommendations and Mentions:
Sweet Bobby
Serial
Endless Thread
RadioLab
Today in Focus
The Daily
Prithi's guilty pleasure listen - Toni & Ryan
Conviction
Children in the Pictures
Find Prithi on Instagram, LinkedIn and email the Spotify team HERE
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The intercontinental eepisodes of Behind The Podcast have begun, as Jules settles into a cold attic somewhere in the hills of Scotland for the foreseeable future. This week Jules and Stocks discuss the continuing fallout of podcast consolidation, some exciting new podcasting tech, the strategic move to offer audiobooks by Spotify and more.
[00:47] Podcasting’s fallout continues, Pushkin restructures - job losses, The Athletic cuts down on Sports podcasts
[08:26] Keet: the future of podcasting with P2P innovation powered by Tether
[12:42] This New Portable Studio From Austrian Audio Makes Great Podcasting And Recording Simple
[16:12] AI making it easier for podcasters to sound more polished
[17:57] As podcasting grows so does co-listening
[20:34] Spotify is giving paid subscribers 15 hours of audiobook listening per month
Recommendations this month:
The Rewatchables: ‘Toy Soldiers’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt
The Voice Podcasts:
The Squiz
The Daily Aus
The Guardian Podcast
The Voice Referendum Explained - ABC Listen
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This week in the pod-cave Jules and Stocks invite an avid listener of BTP to wax lyrical about all things podcasts. Super-fan, Jimmy Mack, joins Stocks and Jules to chat about discovery, their favourite podcasts and their consumption habits.
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It's a sad day in the studio today as Jules and Stocks enjoy the last face-to-face episode before Jules packs a haggis into his sporran and moves to Scotland. Today the lads chat about the latest tech developments, biggest movements and most interesting players in the ever-changing world of podcasting.
Mentioned this week:
[01:25] Apple becomes your all-in-one destination for audio
[04:00] Podcasting’s No. 1 Agent Now Copes With Crash of Market He Hyped
[12:44] Spotify using AI to imitate podcast hosts’ voices in different languages
[17:35] Meghan Markle Bids Adieu To 'Archetypes' Podcast, Withdraws Trademark Request
[19:21] Sarah Silverman signs with Lemonada - leaving Kast
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In the penultimate face-to-face recording for Jules and Stocks, ahead of Jules moving permanently to sunny Scotland, the pair dive deep into what will undoubtedly be the biggest podcast story of 2023 - the fall of Kast Media - and the podcasters who paid the price.
Read more about the downfall of Kast Media:
A Fight Over Missing Ad Money Roils the Podcast Industry
Why everyone in the podcast world is mad at Kast Media
Exposing a Podcast Scam
Watch the full video from Theo Von on YouTube here
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In this week's edition of 'not your average podcast about podcasts' - Jules and Stocks discuss the latest from podcasting powerhouse Mamamia, Future podcasting forecasts, Podcasts appearing on in-flight channels and Spotify's talk circuit of damage control.
Mentioned this week:
[00:44] Mamamia Upfront Shows the Econonic Power of Women
[08:08] Podcasting: Recent trends and future goals #RDA23
[13:57] Podcasts on Delta Airlines as Tweeted by @AlbanBrooke
[19:36] Spotify CFO Touts AI DJ, Podcasting “Evolution”: “We Are Signing Deals Differently
Producer Mandy's recommendation:
Revisionist History: Doctors, Guns and Money
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A lubricated Stocks and a determinedly abstinent Jules bring you the hottest news from the podcast world, including the new (old) kids on the block and Spotify's big risky podcast gamble.
Mentioned this week:
Late-Night Hosts Switch To Podcasting To Fund Out-Of-Work Staff
Spotify’s $1 Billion Podcast Bet Turns Into a Serial Drama
Spotify is reportedly limiting ad payouts for white noise podcasters
The nonstop podcast listeners are on to something
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Behind The Podcast comes from the coffee capital of Australia this week. Jules has been given the week off, so Stocks and the Head of Podcasts at DM - Cameron Muller - tackle the big podcast stories of the week.
Mentioned This week:
[00:41] How Podcasting in China Became A Symbol of China's Gen Z Feminist Movement, Platforms in China
[07:19] Podcast Movement 2023: the good, the bad, the uneventful
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