The Mormon Renegade Podcast

This week I have a real treat for you. I have the opportunity to sit down and have a conversation with Jeff Wall, as we talk about some history about England and the possibility that Christ had made journeys to Great Britan. We start out bytalking about the history of Heber C. Kimball’s 1837 mission to England. Jeff recounts the mission’s early converts and the preservation of the Journal of Discourses, then reflects on sacred places, spiritual guidance, and how the gospel reached communities others considered unlikely to respond. Jeff and Icontinue our discussion of Latter-day Saint interpretations of Israelite lineage, priesthood responsibility, and traditions connecting Jesus and Joseph of Arimathea with England. They examine scriptural passages and historical claims, including a proposed journey to Glastonbury, while presenting these ideas as interpretations and traditions rather than settled historical conclusions.Restored Version Of The Scriptureswww.restoredscriptures.com*The fact that today Glastonbury is filled with new age, spiritualism, witchcraft, etc. adds a testimony that this is sacred place, as the Adversary delights to desecrate sacred space and pollute and perverts anything that is leading people to God. I also wanted to emphasize that he does not claim the Kolbrin Book to be scripture or even that the majority of  it came from an ancient record. The Kolbrin Book has two major sections in it, the first being the so-called “Bronze Book” containing the purported writings of the ancients about the creation and early stories, much like the Old Testament in our Bible. However, upon receiving a copy of this book, after a preliminary  early review, there are many, many false ideas and fanciful stories contained in it. It appears to me to be of modern origin as it is teaching evolution and other outlandish notions.The second part of the book, which contained the prophecy that purports to come from Jesus, which I shared, comes from that portion that is labeled the “Book of Britain“. These may be remnants of earlier documents, some of which may have been passed down authentically. I am not sure as I have not read the entirely of this part. So, in my mind, “the jury is still out,” not having spent sufficient time in this study.Also, to the claim that the Bronze Book, the older and more voluminous portion, being written on brass plates or brass sheets: this may be a fanciful claim as well as there is not sufficient evidence to substantiate it. In other words, there are no witnesses to this claim that I have found, no authentic records of their existence, in stark contrast with the Gold Plates from which the Book of Mormon was taken. Further, while I was informed that this book came out in 1917, this fact is not substantiated either. The whole of the Kolbrin was first published in the 1990s.In any case, I want to make it clear that I do not sustain this book as scripture or even as authentic   records. I wanted those who hear this podcast to not enthusiastically receive this book, for it does not promote truth—things as they really were but rather promotes the theories of men, especially those of the modern age.

Makayla returns to discuss a five-part pattern she calls the symbols of ascent: washing, anointing, clothing, naming, and feasting. We explore how these symbols appear in scripture, temple ritual, birth and marriage, with particular attention toveiling and the spiritual meaning of names. Makayla explains how five recurring sacred symbols - washing, anointing, clothing, naming, and feasting - connect temple imagery, the life of Christ, shepherding, and everyday routines. The hosts extend the discussion to family presence, spiritual identity, women’s scriptural stories, and the Divine Daughter Project, asking how ordinary life can be made more intentional and holy.Restored Version Of The Scriptureswww.restoredscriptures.com

On this episode I welcome John Hajicek to the podcast as we have a conversation about his efforts to prevent a data center from being built on a historic site in Liberty, Missouri, where the Book of Mormon witnesses were likely buried. We start our conversation first by discussing his background inMormon history. John then tells of his experience in identifying the Mark Hoffman forgeries in 1981 by recognizing inconsistencies in language, style, and content compared to authentic Joseph Smith documents from the period. Fromthere John explains that a 30-acre site in Liberty Missouri containing the remains of Christian Whitmer and Peter Whitmer Jr., is under threat of being bulldozed to make way for a new AI Data Center. We talk about how historians havenot been speaking up and some challenges with the historian community.  From there our conversation turns to how FoxNews and Salt Lake Tribune were instructed to drop their coverage of the story. We wrap up our conversation by talking about you can do to help preserve this important Mormon history site. Restored Version Of The Scriptureswww.restoredscriptures.com

How can you tell whether a revelation is from God—or only feels true? David Patten joins me today to explore that question through early Latter-day Saint history, examining Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, Hiram Page, and James Brewster as case studies in revelation, disagreement, and correction. We trace how revelation developed during the Restoration and discuss the tension between grace andworks, the authority to guide the church, and the challenge of correcting sincere but mistaken beliefs. A central theme is Joseph Smith’s test for discernment: true revelation does not contradict earlier true revelation. The conversation also considers why people may be drawn to dramatic propheticclaims, how misinformation can distort what we believe, and why persuasive presentation is not the same as truth.Restored Version Of The Scriptureswww.restoredscriptures.com

On this episode I have Dennis Stone back on the podcast to talk about a fascinating site in New Hampshire that wetalked about last November, called America’s Stonehenge. The conversation starts with Dennis describing the site’s history, stone structures, astronomical alignments, underground drains, and other recent discoveries. Wediscussed carbon dating and astronomical research suggesting the site is about 4,000 years old, with possible ceremonial and burial uses. The conversation then moves into exploring Native American reactions, oral traditions, and thelack of evidence tying the site to colonial farmers. Dennis explained the turtle-shaped chamber, serpent symbolism, and the “sacrificial table” with its grooves and possible ritual functions. He mentioned inscriptions such as the Eye of Horus and connections to Old World cultures like Phoenician and Celtic. Dennis also talks about one chamber specifically that if you are familiar with the account in the Book of Mormon about the Brother of Jared that you will find very, very interesting.  In addition to this I make a few connections that could point to a near eastern presence in ancient America. We wrap up the conversation by talking about the need for moresurvey and LiDAR work and the ongoing research and public interest in the site.RestoredVersion Of The Scriptureswww.restoredscriptures.com