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Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content.Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products Joseph Smith was quoted saying the following: “Let us here observe, that a religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation . . . It was through this sacrifice [of all earthly things], and this only, that God has ordained that men should enjoy eternal life; and it is through the medium of the sacrifice of all earthly things that men do actually know that they are doing the things that are well pleasing in the sight of God. When a man has offered in sacrifice all that he has for the truth’s sake, not even withholding his life, and believing before God that he has been called to make this sacrifice because he seeks to do his will, he does know, most assuredly, that God does and will accept his sacrifice and offering, and that he has not, nor will not seek his face in vain. Under these circumstances, then, he can obtain the faith necessary for him to lay hold on eternal life.” Joseph Smith, Lectures on Faith, pp.6-7 Now if sacrifice opens the windows of heaven and prepares us to become acquainted with God, then we shouldn’t be surprised that this would be a covenant we would take in the Temple Endowment. Today Seth Laub joins me as we take a deep dive into the law of sacrifice. We explore its place in mankind’s history, how sacrifice to God is actually a blessing to us and not something we should fear, the growth that happens when we learn to sacrifice, how it deepens our walk as disciples of Jesus Christ, and finally the blessings that flow to us from this principle.
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content.Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products So, this is part two of the temple series. Today Felipe and Merilynne Cervantes joins me on the podcast to talk about the Law of Obedience. Now I don’t think it is an accident that this is one of the first covenants we make in the Temple. In many ways it provides not only the base for which the rest of the covenants are built on it is also the place in which God reveals how the family is to be organized. We talk about how being obedient is a pathway to freedom, an opportunity to grow, and a mechanism by which our walk as disciples of Christ is deepened so hang out for all that and more.  
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content.Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products You will really want the video for this one. This week is the first episode in a series on the Temple. I will be having on different folks that you have heard on the podcast before to go over each covenant we make in the temple. Now rest assured we won’t be divulging anything we are not supposed to. We will however take a look at each covenant we make and what they really mean. On this first episode I have Ann Hatch as we have conversation about the Spirit of Elijah and finding the names of our kindred dead to prepare those names for temple work. No that is just one part of our conversation because the whole way through our conversation we talk about the deeper doctrinal concepts behind these principle as we share stories of some miraculous things that have happened as we both have engaged in this work. By the end my hope is you will feel empowered to get to work in finding your ancestors and preparing them for going to the temple.   
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content.Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products Today’s episode is going to be a heavy conversation, but one that has to be had. On this episode I talk with a man who has had one of the most remarkable of faith journeys that I have ever had the privilege to hear. Today I have a conversation with Ammon Jeffs. Ammon is the son of Warren Jeffs and was a firsthand witness to what life was like living on several of the compounds owned and operated by his father and the FLDS Church. During the course of our conversation, we cover Ammon’s early life and childhood while first living in Northern Utah, then Short Creek, Texas and many other places. We talk about how his life changed once his father took power, the death of his mother, his father’s arrest for abuse, his banishment from the FLDS Church and his coming to terms with his father’s actions. From that point we move into talking about his deconstruction of false doctrines taught by Warren Jeffs and just how different they were from the doctrine taught by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and other early Mormon leaders. We then finish up by talking about how he found and kept his faith in the Restored Gospel as taught by early Mormon leaders. While this conversation starts out really heavy by the end Ammon demonstrates the healing and transformative power of Atonement of Jesus Christ and the Restored Gospel and shows us that we don’t have to be a slave to our trials or the sins of our family’s past. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   (THIS EPISODE IS FOR MORE MATURE AUDIENCES, SOME CLIPS I PLAY FROM A DIFFERENT PODCAST MAKE SEVERAL INAPPROPRIATE INNUENDOS AND I WOULD SUGGEST NOT LETTING ANYONE UNDER 16 LISTEN!!!)   While I won't play down the theological differences between Orthodox Mormonism and the LDS Church the truth is that there is a lot more that we have in common than not and as such when The LDS Church lines up with True Principles we should stand with them on that principle. This episode is one of those as me and my guest defend the LDS Church from a prominent Anti-Mormon podcaster. The LDS Church in the last couple months took a few steps in a direction I think most of us as Fundamentalists would agree with. They have presented new curriculum for their youth explaining the history around the LDS Church’s former practice of Celestial Plural Marriage. Now by presenting this information you would think that the anti/post Mormon community would be happy with this since they have been screaming for more transparency on Joseph Smith’s practice of plural marriage. However, the exact opposite is true. They railed on the curriculum material by calling it grooming. So, on this Ben Winfield and I breakdown not only the curriculum published by the LDS Church (which in my opinion is pretty darn good for LDS Youth) but also the response from a prominent anti-Mormon podcaster. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   There are some stories in scripture especially when you get back towards Genesis that seem so far removed that it can be hard for us to extract any meaning from it. However, God never gives us anything that he doesn’t want us to use. Today Michael Ness joins me again as we wrap up his series on Genesis. The main scriptural account we will be covering is about Nimrod and the Tower of Babel. During the course of our conversation, we talk about who Nimrod was and his possible connections to the character of Baal, as well as a period of time that overlaps with Abraham. We then move on to Tower of Babel and some very interesting parallels to our modern society and some warnings from the past that we should pay attention to. Now you can’t talk about those things without also taking time as well to talk about The Brother of Jared, the Jaredites from the Book of Mormon and their concurrent history. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   The Savior warned us that in the last days there would be false Prophets and false Christs that would lead people astray. To ensure that we don’t become misled it is important that we understand truth so well that we can spot a counterfeit a mile away. It is for this reason I wanted to do this two-part series on the Nemenhah Record. With that said last week me and Justin Francom broke down the Nemenhah Record and explored some pretty problematic teachings found in this alleged book of scripture. Today Justin joins me again as we finish our examination of the Nemenhah Record, and spoiler alert we are about see where the Nemenhah Record really disagress with the Book of Mormon and other principles of the Restoration as taught by the Prophet Joseph Smith. Today we cover what the Nemenhah Record says about changing the ordinance of Baptism, Plural Marriage and some damning evidence on timelines that really puts the record at odds with what has already been revealed by the Prophet Joseph Smith. I would ask that you please share these episodes with your family and friends who have bought into this record so that they might not be deceived 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   Mormon theology is full of amazing promises. Some of those promises have to do with new scripture coming forth in the last days. Now that is an exciting prospect. Like many of you I look forward to that time. However, when one says that new scripture that has come forth, we must be very careful. We must make sure that the purported new scripture harmonizes with the principles of the existing cannon of scripture and other principles that have been revealed through the Prophet Joseph Smith. Today on this episode and next week as well I have Justin Francom on to breakdown all six volumes of the Nemenhah Record. We examine the books views on Family Structure, Priesthood, Communing with Deity, Political Ideology, and the books’ view on Joseph Smith, then compare what the book is saying with the already restored truths found in Scripture and from Joseph Smith. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content.   If you were to ask most people off the street what an Orthodox Mormon is they would give a description of what they have saw from mainstream media. The issue with that is the images presented by media really is of only one group. Because of the nature of that business, people often don’t get to see folks in this faith tradition as they really are which is a vibrant people from all walks of life with various talents and abilities that can bless the lives of all of Gods children despite our religious differences. Now I have talked with several people on the podcast about how they ended up believing in and practicing Orthodox Mormonism. Today Tom Bennett joins me on the podcast to talk his journey into Orthodox Mormonism. One of the ways Tom makes his living is as a musician. In the course of our conversation, we talk about his journey from being a Baptist to a member of the LDS Church, his mission for the LDS Church, his journey into fundamentalism, his falling away and return to the Restored Gospel, and how his faith sustains him in the music industry, and along the way we even get hear a couple of songs. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   A few weeks back I had a conversation with my friend Ann Hatch and  we were talking about things that were going on in the world and what it could all mean. Now I am not a guy who likes to play the game “pin the tail on the apocalypse” but I do think that there are ways that maybe we can gauge where we are by things that are given to us in scripture. Ann had said she had recently read a book that gave her some context for some recent events in Israel and mentioned she might want to talk about it on the podcast. So today she joins me as we talk about what happened in Israel on October 3rd 2023, and if it is possible that a prophecy was fulfilled on that day. We talk about what that prophecy is and what its significance could be for the world at large and us as individuals. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   There are some things in Mormonism that are just plain fun to talk about, debate on and think about. One of those topics is Book of Mormon Geography ideas and theories. Meaning where did the events in the Book of Mormon take place. Now while there are many ideas there are really two that seem to draw the most attention one is the Meso-American Model and the other is the Heartland Model. Today’s episode is all about the Heartland Model, and when talking about the Heartland one man stands above all others in that field, his name is Rod Meldrum and lucky for us he agreed to come on the podcast and have a conversation about the Heartland Model. The results are four and half of evidence ranging from Covenants to descriptions from the Book of Mormon its self, to physical evidence, things Joseph Smith has said, and finally to ceremonial structures in the Heartland of America that if you have been endowed should remind of you a few things. Now while you can certainly get a lot from this episode by just listening, I strongly encourage you to head over to the Mormon Renegade Channel at Rumble so you can see all the pictures and slides. Get ready for an absolutely epic mind blowing conversation.
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   One of the things we all need as disciples of Christ is fellowship with others. This isn’t only because we want someone else to hangout with but because each of has a unique story to tell. One of the things that is so vitally important is to hear from others is how they got to where they are in their spiritual journeys. There are things in those stories that remind us of why we believe what it is we believe. This episode defiantly falls into that category as I sit down and have a conversation with Felipe & Merilynnes  and how they came to be converted to the orthodox teachings of Mormonism. We cover Merilynnes upbringing in Utah as a fully active member of the LDS Church, her time in college and on a mission. We then here from Felipe and how he journeyed from being a catholic to a member of the LDS Church and then being introduced to orthodox Mormon teaching and how Felipe & Merilynne grew together while studying those early Mormon teachings. We cover how their families reacted to their conversions and what their experiences have been in living orthodox Mormonism.  
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   One of the reasons I love Mormonism is the idea that God is no respecter of persons. What that means for us is that as God has dealt with His children in the past is how He will deal with us today. This allows us to foster a relationship with Him because we know what He expects of us. Now with that in mind let me ask this question, should we expect to find the Law of Moses before Moses earthly ministry? The answer is of course yes. Today on the podcast Joshua Erickson and I have a conversation about this. Now if you are able I would recommend going to the Rumble channel and listening because Joshua has a lot of slides to go along with our conversation that you might find helpful. During the course of our conversation we look at the life and ministry of the Patriarchs in the Old Testament and find some very compelling evidence that they were practicing Law long before Moses. We wrap it all up at the end by talking about what this should mean for each one of us and our relationship with God. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   I believe that one of the things that we as orthodox Mormons are called to is to preserve truths of the Restoration that have been discarded. Now while that statement on the surface seems pretty straight forward it actually is a little more complex than we might think. In order to fulfill that part of our mission it requires us to look at what we do and then make the determination that what in our practices are Doctrine versus Tradition, then to complicate the subject even more we have to ask the question is this a good tradition or a harmful tradition. Sometimes identifying what is tradition versus doctrine is really manifested in how we conduct our worship meetings. On this episode Justin Francom & Adam Hosey join me for a discussion on this very topic. Through the course of our conversation, we cover the good and bad aspects of tradition and how to tell the differences, what the Lord has to say concerning what must be present in our worship services, differences in Mormonism and other religions and finally what we can do to infuse more meaning into our worship meetings.  
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   This week on the podcast Taylor Smith and I finish our conversation about the book The Great Omission which was wrote by a sectarian Christian advocating for plural marriage and boy do we cover a lot of ground in our conversation. We talk about how and why monogamy became the norm in Christianity, Plural Marriage in early Protestantism, Population Collapse and the role it played in the Ukrainian/Russian war and it becoming a problem here in the West, the definition of Patriarchy and what it really is, The omission of Plural Marriage in the King James Bible, the implications for living Plural Marriage today. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   There are a lot of beliefs and practices that make Mormonism truly unique the religious world. Certainly, if you were to ask a run of the mill person on the street what makes Mormons different the first thing brought up would be plural marriage. But what if a sectarian Christian wrote a book advocating for plural marriage, what would that look. Like.  Well today you are going to find out. Taylor Smith joins me today as we breakdown a book entitled The Great Omission by Clyde L Pilkington. Now to cover this book it is going to take two episodes. In this first part we cover the problem of demographics and ratio of men to women in modern society, Old Testament precedents, New Testament’s evidence, what the New Testament and Christ both say on the topic and all along the way debunk and dispel misconceptions around plural marriage.  https://www.amazon.com/Great-Omission-Christendoms-Abandonment-Biblical/dp/1934251712/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CZLRQZpy_VWXHrTIQnknhltAfbGARzSDz8hjBv1O2e_FoQp0Hw8rgguOLo16Qq1C52aW9YGcfFel-ib0G3oyLEGIRMjUCcKJ31UqHrLWPFpk8dCUJc84Mw5tBodoJb1agYupQ-7zJoFmSCgB7evHAT8-WmwVj7SJv611HEOr-2aKAXUfUwqvlLcEmkFdfpQTgf6m6qCtEiL4a8o3PElHYWlEIrkcwIOA2hL_GVHAkaE.hwACx4G95uEgWimidwAgF9OorQIVIoz8SOaJ7BCxA6A&dib_tag=se&hvadid=580629326769&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9023799&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=307385124108899090&hvtargid=kwd-790665215&hydadcr=8237_13500794&keywords=the+great+omission&qid=1731789634&sr=8-5
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   Right now, the Plural Marriages deniers are coming out in full force to try and damage the testimony of the truth in as many people as they can. One of the tactics that are used is that they will say that the early sisters that practiced the principle of Celestial Plural Marriage where oppressed, weak, silent women who would never choose such a marriage. Man, if only we had access to those early Sisters thoughts and feelings……oh wait we do! Today on the podcast Kimberly Watson Smith joins me again where we read those early Sisters words (in context) and let those sisters from Church history speak for themselves. Through our conversation what we find is that these women left all of us in the Restoration a proud heritage of faith and that should inspire, uplift, and strengthen our testimonies of not only the principle of Celestial Plural Marriage but also the whole of the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith.
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   Well given that the election day is just a few days away I wanted to do an episode not so much on the politics but on what could be at stake this election. To do that I think we need to take a look around the globe and see what’s really happening. Now to help us get a feel on what’s really happening I felt like I needed to talk to someone that is not only in the know, but someone who could provide context for all that is happening. For that heavy lift I reached backout to David Pyne. If you recall I had David on once before earlier this summer and he has an impressive resume where he was National Security Policy Director for Senator Mike Lee, and Defense & Foreign Policy Advisor for former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy and that’s just for starters. We have a fascinating conversation about what is really happening with all the conflicts around the globe, what those conflicts could mean for America as a country, what he thinks the likely outcome of the election will be and the ramifications of those elections here in America. 
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   Today on the podcast Michael Ness joins me again as we continue our series on the Old Testament. This episode is all about Noah. For many the Noah story is a simple story. God tells Noah to build an ark, animals come aboard the ark, it rains and floods, Noah’s family is preserved and that’s about it. Well guess what there are some amazing insights that can be gleaned from the Noah account, and we talk about a lot of them on this episode. Through the account of Noah we touch on things such as the nature of God, Biblical origins, the scribes and how the conflict from the Northern and Southern kingdoms of Israel factor into the way the Bible was compiled, and then to really stretch your mind you will hear how the Temple is and Temple theology is woven throughout the entire story of Noah.
Go To https://rumble.com/user/MormonRenegade for free video & access to exclusive content. Renegade Supply Store: https://renegade-supply-shop.printify.me/products   So I apologize I didn’t release an episode but I was pretty busy with some pretty cool things last weekend, but we are back today so here we go. We seem to be reaching a point in society that home ownership seems to be getting further out of reach especially for our children and couple that with a desire to get out of a society that seems to be getting farther away from reality and seems to be slipping more and more into chaos it seems like our options are getting pretty slim. But what if it didn’t have to be that way? What if there was a way that we could gather with like-minded people to weather these societal storms. Well today on this episode Jeff Alldredge joins me again to have a conversation about a plan that he has to help people do just that. As we break down his idea it seems to have the ability to be repeatable and scalable for almost all people despite their skillsets or economic situations.
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