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Author: Drew Kugler

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Creating change that matters happens in conversations - with others AND yourself. In this series, noted executive coach Drew Kugler has conversations about, well, conversations. Through Drew's personal insights and interviews with thought leaders from all walks of life, you will learn about the unique dynamics of conversations at work, home, and anywhere else you care to make a difference.
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Safe is Risky

Safe is Risky

2021-03-3112:15

What's a risk you took that turned out well? What about one you wish you had taken? I invite you to listen and participate in this episode as a guided workshop for whatever risk or change you may be facing.
How Are You?

How Are You?

2021-02-0809:35

Drew Kugler and Ari Kaplan discuss the differences in how children and adults discuss their busy days, with a focus on how they answer the simple (and sometimes throwaway) question, "How are you?" Monk Manual Article: https://monkmanual.com/blogs/monk-notes/monk-notes-10-on-you-lost-that-busy-feeling-oh-that-busy-feeling?vgo_ee=sF1VVxqxgXq97OuHuO5hmvlMy%2BOWWuyaZunZiCXh6gI%3D John Mulaney Stand-Up Routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZU_hA4Pr4
Dr. Michael Osterholm

Dr. Michael Osterholm

2021-01-2119:12

In November 2020, Dr. Osterholm was appointed to President Joe Biden's 13-member Transition COVID-19 Advisory Board.  Dr. Osterholm is Regents Professor, McKnight Presidential Endowed Chair in Public Health, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Distinguished Teaching Professor in the Division of Environmental Health Sciences, School of Public Health, a professor in the Technological Leadership Institute, College of Science and Engineering, and an adjunct professor in the Medical School, all at the University of Minnesota. From June 2018 through May 2019, he served as a Science Envoy for Health Security on behalf of the US Department of State. He is also on the Board of Regents at Luther College in Decorah, Iowa. He is the author of the New York Times best-selling 2017 book, Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs, in which he not only details the most pressing infectious disease threats of our day but lays out a nine-point strategy on how to address them, with preventing a global flu pandemic at the top of the list. The Atlantic article by Ed Yong Frontline Families Fund
The Five Frogs

The Five Frogs

2021-01-1909:18

This episode explores one essential distinction we must make when pursuing real change. Think about where you spent your three hours in shock on January 6 - what have you done about what you've seen and felt since? Please also see this article by Ibram X. Kendi and video by Andrew Marantz for additional insight on what we all saw and how we talk about it.
Dr. Andrea Ghez

Dr. Andrea Ghez

2021-01-1227:19

Dr. Andrea Ghez is an astronomer and professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at UCLA. In October of 2020, she became the fourth woman to be awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for her discovery of a supermassive compact object, now generally recognized to be a black hole, in the center of the Milky Way galaxy. In today's episode, she discusses the conversations and curiosities that led her to this work, as well as how disagreeing and collaborating leads to richer scientific insights.
Building for Change

Building for Change

2020-12-2212:11

When something goes wrong, how quickly do you search for "tools" or a "blueprint" to fix it? Today, we explore how seeking to merely fix what's broken isn't enough - we must figure out what we're trying to build and why. This episode also happily introduces my colleague, Ari Kaplan, who will occasionally join in on TMWTS.
What's The Moral?

What's The Moral?

2020-11-2005:59

It's easy to watch a news story and decide what we think of the characters involved. In this episode, I explore how we can better pause and learn the lessons of what happens around us - not so we can make judgements about others, but so we can make changes in ourselves.
Shellye Archambeau

Shellye Archambeau

2020-10-0829:26

What makes the best leaders? My guest today discusses the dedication to listening and caring she believes to be the cornerstone of true leadership. In a world that focuses so much on what people do, Shellye and I take the time to dive into how good leaders make the people around them feel.
Political Conversation

Political Conversation

2020-09-2906:18

How are your political conversations going these days? Not with people with whom you agree - I mean the ones with people whose views you can't even begin to fathom. Are you even having them? Just remember - no matter what happens in this election, those people aren't going anywhere. If you're not constructively engaging in the discomfort, what are you accomplishing?
Mason Trinca

Mason Trinca

2020-09-2332:00

It's not just showing up to the scene and taking pictures. My guest this week discusses how he uses conversation to build trust and respect on the ground, even in the most dangerous and emotionally charged situations, in order to produce the best photographs for the New York Times.
Mark McKee

Mark McKee

2020-09-1626:20

How do you guide an organization and the people it serves through uncertainty? My guest today explains how his school uses its mission and values as a "north star," regardless of the circumstances they can't control.
Cancel Culture

Cancel Culture

2020-09-1005:39

Forget where "Cancel Culture" shows up in the slog of news and media. Instead, think about where it shows up in your life. When is the last time you shut someone out, and why? Indulge me in a brief exploration of how we can better engage with people who we feel have wronged us or those we care about.
Keith Yamashita

Keith Yamashita

2020-08-2833:18

My guest this week discusses his life's work guiding companies through large-scale change, and how his personal journey recovering from a stroke has informed that work. I invite you to listen to Keith Yamashita's unique and enlightening perspective on how humans can, both individually and collectively, embrace that process of self-renewal.
Living In A Zoom World

Living In A Zoom World

2020-08-2107:52

As the virus grinds on, Zoom and such have entrenched themselves into all corners of connecting with others. On today's episode of TMWTS I offer my perspective on making the most you can of this pandemic necessity.
On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I explore a persistent myth about how people change their behavior. We must rethink our urge to persuade with facts, and instead meet emotion with emotion.
Dr. Natasha Bhuyan

Dr. Natasha Bhuyan

2020-07-3128:45

My newest podcast with Dr. Natasha Bhuyan highlights the lifesaving impact deliberate conversations have in the medical field. I invite you to listen to how she and her teams employ a central pillar of Constructive Candor: getting other people to tell their story. It creates shared vision, understanding, and action when everything is on the line.
Until It's Faced

Until It's Faced

2020-07-1209:00

On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I offer Thoughts and suggestions on the demands on creating long term change. With so many more voices rising, progress will depend on what listening follows them. Especially when things get uncomfortable.
Bishop Kenneth Ulmer

Bishop Kenneth Ulmer

2020-06-2538:08

Bishop Kenneth Ulmer is the leader of Faithful Central Bible Church. He has studied at Pepperdine University, Hebrew Union College, the University of Judaism and Christ Church and Wadham College at Oxford University in England. He received a PhD. from Grace Graduate School of Theology in Long Beach, California, was awarded an Honorary Doctor of Divinity from Southern California School of Ministry, and he received his Doctor of Ministry from United Theological Seminary. He participated in the study of Ecumenical Liturgy and Worship at Magdalene College at Oxford University in England, has served as instructor in Pastoral Ministry and Homiletic at Grace Theological Seminary, as an adjunct professor at Biola University (where he served on the Board of Trustees), and as an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University.
Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers its messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce the stigma around mental health and frame the conversation with more positivity and optimism. Peiman has said that it should feel the same telling someone you’re going to therapy as it does telling them you’re going to the gym.
Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers it's messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce the stigma around mental health and frame the conversation with more positivity and optimism. Peiman has said that it should feel the same telling someone you’re going to therapy as it does telling them you’re going to the gym.
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