Claim OwnershipJust Between You & Me with Jen Lee and Tim Manley
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What if the most important part of making art isn't the "making" at all—but the conversation that happens in between? Every week, Jen Lee and Tim Manley picked up the phone to do what they do best: talk it out. As co-writers, collaborators, and friends, their bond was forged in the "10 Letters Project," and now they’re letting you eavesdrop on their most honest creative rituals. Just Between You & Me is a weekly window into the messy, beautiful, and often hilarious reality of the artist’s life. It’s unpolished, it’s real, and it’s exactly what you need to hear when your own creative well feels dry.
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Jen and Tim are both not working. Jen is setting up her new life in Sweden. Tim is sick and mostly just sitting around reading. Quiet time, recovery time, reset time.
Jen is finding her footing in Sweden, spending time with friends and family. Tim is crashing hard into summer time and can barely remember what’s happening in his life. Thing aren’t bad! Jen makes even better bread and Tim goes shopping a lot.
Jen made it to Sweden. Tim made it to the end of Season 2 of The Feels. Both of them are pretty tired.
Jen and Tim have a lot happening: a big move across the country, and a big release of a show. But the reality of their days don’t exactly match the way the internet or movies would say they should look. Publicity, mental-emotional hangups, major life changes, fears about releasing a project, rom-coms – this is what they really feel like.
Jen and Tim debrief the road trip for filming Jen's "Gather."
Jen and Tim are both in unusual times. Jen is boxing up all of her projects before the family’s move to Sweden. Tim is preparing his show for release and also cleaning his apartment. It’s an unusual right-before moment.
Jen and Tim were depleted after major projects. But now they’re back in action. Super-powered. Fully stocked. 100%. Sort of. Or, at least, they’re in recovery.
Monday was the premiere of Bright Lights at the Manhattan Film Festival. Jen shares how it all felt for her.
Recorded a weeks ago but misplaced by Tim, and hampered by auditory issues, this lost episode has now been unearthed and is available for JCY&M archaeologists.
Jen and Tim both have way too much to do, but thankfully they know how to bend time so they can fit everything in. Or at least they have some ideas for how to try to do that. Also: maintaining spontaneity in projects that require careful organization.
Tim continues to make a web series around the edges of all the other things he does to pay the bills. Jen is running a fever and just doing deep, delirious thinking until she can get back into her work flow for real.
Tim continues to film Season Two of The Feels while starting work for the next phase of editing. Jen is cycling between many projects in different stages, thinking about her relationship to things like time and uncertainty. They are in a cafe, and it sounds like New York City in the morning.
Jen’s documentary, Bright Lights, has been accepted into the Manhattan Film Festival! It’ll debut in late April! She discusses all the thoughts and feelings that come along with good news.
Jen reflects on the pacing of her process: speeding for a time, and resting deeply for a time. Tim is mostly just lying broken by the side of the road. Maybe that counts as rest?
Jen is editing together the first footage from her film, and finding it’s… pretty great. Tim is almost halfway through shooting the second season of his show, and finding it’s… going well. Who knew? Maybe we’ve been doing things right all along.
Tim has begun filming Season Two of The Feels, and attempts to speak truthfully about what that feels like. (Something like: Depleting.) Jen shot one of the most emotionally challenging scenes for her film, and watching the footage afterwards forced her to confront her vanity. Real talk.
We’re both usually completing whole projects completely on our own, from start to finish. But now, either because of the scope of what we’re working on or because we’re getting smarter, we’re inviting others in to help. It makes everything so much better.
We’re trying to make sense of the past week, trying to make sense of what to do with ourselves, with our art, with our energies. It’s hard to know what matters and how to move forward. But we’re trying. Also, Tim got a haircut.
Jen is resting in bed, but about to enter a storm of work. Tim is preparing to enter Super Mode for the next six weeks, and so is being deliberate about everything he eats, reads, and listens to. We talk about the Women’s March on Washington, mixed feelings about social media, and new paradigms for thinking about work.
Jen is speeding through some trailers for her old documentary, and Tim is bringing together all the plans for the new season of The Feels. We talk about being unprepared, unrehearsed, and how maybe (hopefully) there’s some sort of magic found there.
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