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Who the hell is Saint Patrick? In honor of the upcoming St. Patrick’s Day, we thought we should do a deep-dive on the guy who started it all. Join Erin and Evan as we discuss visions of scrolls from God, Irish pirates, and whether or not Patrick actually drove all the snakes out of Ireland. You’ll also hear about Cellar demons, nipple licking, and cave entrances to Purgatory in this shocking, saintly exploration! MENTIONSWant more saintly content? Listen to Best Saints in Show | Here’s the history/more info St. Patrick Deep Dive: Read Confessio | LettersCurious about Ireland? Learn more here | Irish PiratesSt. Patrick’s Purgatory: Check it out Okay, can you tell me how we got to St. Patrick’s Day? Learn from National Geographic KidsIf you liked this, you’ll also enjoy these Patreon episodes: Peter Alebard | Anne Askew | Jeanne D’Arc | Marcio of Sinope The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Have you ever wondered which Bible characters would absolutely dominate the dodgeball court? Today, we invited our friend Meredith Anne Miller to draft our ultimate biblical dodgeball teams, and you get to vote on who takes home the glory. Plus, Meredith answers listener questions about how to talk with kids about difficult passages in the Bible, how to approach conversations about death, and so much more!MENTIONSMeredith Anne Miller: Instagram | Website | Substack | Wonder | WovenWant to see Meredith and Erin in real life? Wonder Book Launch in BirminghamWant the spicy questions? Listen on Patreon with a 7-day free trial Relevant Past Episodes: Season 14, Episode 9: Elijah | Shady Ladies: The Woman at the Well | Season 3, Episode 2: David and Goliath | The Esther Season | Sibling Rivalries: Mary and Martha Book Recommendation: The Lost World Series by John WaltonThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Step up to the podium alongside this gold medal-worthy replay episode as Erin presents a Faith Adjacent deep dive of the Olympics! We’ll go faster, higher, and stronger together as we unpack the ancient origins and modern resurgence of the Olympics, explore the use of athletic metaphors throughout scripture, and hear interviews from actual Olympic gold medalists Laura Wilkinson and Bryan Clay in our most athletic episode yet! You’ll also hear a sneak preview of our very contentious, Patreon-exclusive Faith Adjacent Winter Olympics! MENTIONSThe Faith Adjacent Winter Olympics: Listen with a 7-day free trialPast Olympics Episodes: The Faith Adjacency of the Olympics | The Faith Adjacent Seminary Olympics | Full Interviews with Laura Wilkinson and Bryan ClayWhere to Watch: Peacock Investigative Journalism: An Oral History of Bob Costas Having Pink Eye at the Olympics Laura Wilkinson: Website | Instagram | Book - Life at 10 Meters: Lessons from an Olympic Champion | Watch her win goldBryan Clay: Instagram | Book - Redemption: A Rebellious Spirit, A Praying Mother, and the Unlikely Path to Olympic Gold | Watch him win goldKerri Strug: Website | Instagram Watch: National Geographic History of the OlympicsListen: Season 9, Episode 4: ConstantineChristian History: Revisiting the Pagan Olympic GamesFather of Modern Olympics: Pierre de Coubertin Deep DiveGym Bros: History of the YMCABible Sports Metaphors: 1 Corinthians 9:24-26 | 2 Timothy 4:6-8 | Hebrews 12:1-3 Galatians 2:2 | Philippians 2:16 Read: The Great Divorce by C.S. LewisSha’Carri Richardson: Read more hereBible Scholar Resources: The New Testament in its World by N.T. Wight | The Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible | Perseverance in Gratitude by David A. deSilvaOlympic Scholar Resources: The Games by David Goldblatt | Ancient Greek Athletics, by Stephen G. Miller | A Brief History of the Olympic Games by David C. YoungThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s time for our monthly Favored or Forsaken! Join Erin, Evan, and Jamie as we discuss the recent news that James Dobson’s name has appeared in the Epstein files, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson correcting the Pope, and a prayer ring that takes us on a shocking detour. MENTIONS​Krispin & D.L. Mayfield: Podcast about Dobson in the Epstein Files | InstagramSpeaker Mike Johnson’s Tweet: Check it out here Prayer Ring Deep Dive? Confidein Website | FaithTech The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It is time to enter the Thunderdome for a third time! Join Erin, Evan, and Jamie as faith adjacent contenders go head-to-head! You’ll hear competitions between Christian artistic expressions, nepo babies versus reality show contestants, and an ultimate showdown between purity culture and the prosperity gospel. The stakes have never been higher, and the competition has never been fiercer in this crowdsourced Thunderdome! MENTIONS​Past Thunderdomes: The Original | The Spicy Original | Thunderdome II: Christmas Edition Thomas Kinkade: Check out the controversies section Precious Moments: Scented Socks | Altered Precious Moments on EtsyInfluencer Pipeline: Maddie Prewett Troutt | Sadie Robertson Huff | Joanna Gaines | Carrie Underwood | Tim TebowRelevant Past Episodes: Faith Adjacent: Purity Culture | IKYN: If Not Purity Culture, Then What? | Favored or Forsaken: Prosperity Gospel The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Got questions that don’t quite fit the vibe for your pastor or your therapist? That’s where we come in. Join Knox, Jamie, and Erin as we tackle listener questions about faithfulness to a local church, intellectual versus emotional connections with God, and what to do when your kids stumble upon books you disagree with. What’s the deal with Ryan Lochte’s faith journey and is Knox or Erin the better parent? You’ll have to listen to find out.MENTIONS​Want the Spicy version? Listen on PatreonRyan Lochte’s Faith Journey: Learn more hereNeed Book Recs? Check out our FavoredsBible Verses Referenced: Hebrews 10:25 The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Get ready to solve some religious crimes of passion because we’re talking about Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Story. Join Erin and Evan as we unpack the sacred and secular aspects of this recent Netflix film. You’ll hear favored and forsaken moments, quotes we would like to see turned into a sermon series, life verses for this film, and so much more! MENTIONS​Wake Up Dead Man: Watch on Netflix | Rotten Tomatoes | IMDbDeep Dive: Here’s the interview where Rian Johnson discusses his faith Bible Verses Referenced: Ecclesiastes 12:14 | 1 Corinthians 15:10The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: InstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s time for our first Favored or Forsaken of 2026! Join Erin, Evan, and Jamie as we discuss Philip Yancey, plagiarizing sermons, and deer jerky ministry! You’ll hear about relevant insights from Casting Crowns songs, we discuss whether or not a sermon is even important to the Sunday gathering, and we present super specific ministries we would like to bring into the world. MENTIONS​Philip Yancey: Here’s the Christianity Today article | Parkinson’s Article Research Corner: Why More Marriages End When Wives Become IllIs sermon plagiarization ok? Here’s the article | Stealing Sundays on YouTubeDeer Jerky Ministry: Here’s the article | Boone Brothers Book Recommendation: The Serviceberry by Robin Wall KimmererThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We’re starting off the year with our 2026 prophecies! Join Erin, Jamie, and Evan as we discuss what we hope to see, what we think we’ll see, and what we’re nervous about in the new year! What will be the trends in Christianity for 2026, and what will Christian nationalists attack this year? You’ll have to listen to find out!MENTIONS​Start your year off with a Doctorate: Join The Faith Adjacent Seminary Accountability Corner: Listen to our 2025 PropheciesRelevant Past Episodes: October Favored or Forsaken What was that about churches closing? Here’s the article from Boston University  John Van Deusen: Listen on Spotify | Listen on AppleMusic Eastern Orthodoxy? Listen to our Patreon June Favored or Forsaken | Here’s the APNews ArticlePsalty Deep-Dive: Website | YoutubePrep for Jump5’s Comeback: Listen on Spotify | Listen on Apple Music | Watch the DocThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We went on a field trip, and we’re here to tell you about it! Join Erin, Evan, Knox, and Jamie as we discuss our yeses and nos of experiencing the Dead Sea Scrolls at The Museum of the Bible. You’ll hear about having our assumptions challenged (in such a good way), witnessing an influencer’s deconstruction origin story in real time, and so much more! Most importantly, you’ll learn more than you ever wanted to know about Evan’s purchase from the gift shop, The Dead Sea Squirrels. MENTIONS​Want to see the Dead Sea Scraps? Visit the Museum of the BibleRelevant Past Episodes: Jesus End-of-Summer Road Trip | Favored or Forsaken: Hobby Lobby | Interview with Archaeologist Dr. Jodi Magness | SWDGISS: The Dead Sea ScrollsWhat else did we do in DC? Listen to our December Fellowship Hall on PatreonThe Dead Sea Squirrels? Get the books here | Watch the showThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For our final main feed episode of 2025, we’re talking about our NOs of Christmas! Join Jamie, Erin, and Evan as we discuss listener stories about communion farts, sexy Christmas carols, and live manger scenes gone awry. Should we hold birthday parties for Jesus, and what constitutes a bad versus good case of diarrhea? You’ll have to listen to find out! MENTIONS​Get 50% off your first month of The Faith Adjacent Seminary (for first time subscribers): Go here and enter code DIARRHEADONKEYPeak Blanket: Chenille Waffle Sherpa Back Throw from Pottery Barn (Note from Evan: Seems like the exact blanket I was talking about was retired, but this feels close)Healing Farts? Learn more here Laughter is the Best Medicine: Listen to Amy Poehler and Julia Louis-Dreyfus The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

As 2025 comes to a close, we thought we would pick our most favored and most forsaken topics of the year! Join Erin, Evan, and Jamie as we discuss things like Christian pushback against ICE, the closing of Joann Fabric and Crafts, Pope Leo XIV, and so much more! You’ll also hear what is favored for each of us right now! MENTIONS​Give the gift of The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Here’s the link | Here are the Diplomas Erin’s Topic Redo: Christian Pushback Against ICEPassing Hall of Fame: ToureShow on TikTokRelevant Past Episode: September Favored or ForsakenPope Leo on AI: Read more here Private Equity: Learn about the demise of JoannFaith Adjacent Holiday Playlists: FA Christmas Pondering | FA Christmas PartyEvan’s Favored: Modern Genre Theory by Andrew JuddErin’s Favored: Rev. Blair on Instagram Jamie’s Favored: Christmas Songs by Penny & Sparrow | Joyful, Joyful CeCe Winans |  Simply Christmas and The Christmas Album by Leslie Odom, Jr. | A Charlie Brown Christmas The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this very special episode, Erin and Evan are joined by rare two-time guest Beth Allison Barr! Listen along as we discuss her latest book, Becoming the Pastor’s Wife, and ask her questions about things like church shopping, whether or not to stay in a Southern Baptist Church, and so much more! Who are some of Beth’s favorite women in medieval history, and is A Knight’s Tale an accurate representation of medieval life? You’ll have to listen to find out! MENTIONS​Give the gift of The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Here’s the link | Here are the Diplomas Beth Allison Barr: Website | Instagram | The Making of Biblical Womanhood | Becoming the Pastor’s Wife | SubstackA Knight’s Tale: Watch on Disney+Medieval Nerds: Gender and Authority in the Late Medieval Church by Ian ForrestWhat was that about Sarah Bessey? Read The Christian Bookstore RejectsWomen at Work: Economica by Victoria Bateman The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today, we’re replacing The Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade with the Faith Adjacent Thanksgiving Parade! Join Jamie, Erin, and Evan as we share our own pics for Biblical-themed parade floats, balloons, commentators, and more! MENTIONS​Give the gift of The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Here’s the link | Here are the Diplomas Bundle Sale! Get 25% off all our episode bundles! End Times Square? Listen to our Jesus End-of-Summer Road Trip episode Avalon Deep Dive: Listen on Spotify | Listen on Apple Music Barney Balloon: Watch hereThe Joshies: Listen to The Faith Adjacent Oscars with Andy Judd Best Saints in Show: Listen here The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s time for our monthly Favored or Forsaken episode! Join Jamie, Erin, and Evan as we discuss woke nuns, a TikTok social experiment, and the recent influx of little Jesuses appearing all over cities. You’ll also hear what is favored for each of us right now! MENTIONS​Give the gift of The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Here’s the link | Here are the Diplomas Woke Nuns: Nuns Return Land to Native American TribeTikTok Baby Formula Test: Here’s Nikolie Monroe’s AccountTiny Jesuses? Here’s the instagram post Evan’s Favored: As Long As I Am in the Tent of This Body I Will Make a Joyful Noise Pt 1. by John Van DeusenErin’s Favored: Knock at the Sky by Liz Charlotte GrantJamie’s Favored: Beard: A Memoir of a Marriage by Kelly Foster LundquistThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Get your worship flags ready and warm up that hot tub because we’re talking about weird ministries! Join Erin and Evan as we discuss listener comments about unorthodox church ministries such as puppet and cookie ministries. What is the deal with Erin’s childhood orange ministry, and what does swallowing a live goldfish have to do with spreading the Gospel? You’ll have to listen to find out! MENTIONS​We can all use a little weird: Get Weird by CJ Casciotta | Listen to the Faith Adjacent Book ClubPuppet Ministry: Here are all the resources you need Worship Flag Tutorial: Learn more hereProverbs 31 Deep-Dive: Listen to Favored or Forsaken: Proverbs 31 Women  The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In today’s latest Stuff We Didn’t Get in Sunday School, we’re unpacking Biblical Inerrancy! Join Erin, Evan, and Jamie as we discuss the history behind the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy, some alternatives to digging your heels in on this concept, and why people tend to use inerrancy as a litmus test for salvation. What is meant by Jesus being the Word of God, and what do foreskins have to do with any of this? You’ll have to listen to find out!  MENTIONS​The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy: Read it here | Defending Inerrancy Relevant Bible Passages: John 1 | 2 Timothy 3:16-17Relevant Past Episode: SWDGISS: How We Got the BibleNerdy Deep Dive: Textual Criticism with Dr. WidderAdditional Resources: The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr | Five Views on Biblical Inerrancy | Modern Genre Theory by Andrew Judd The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Do you have a moment for me to tell you about our latest Faith Adjacent episode? Today we’re evangelizing about The NOs of Evangelism! Join Erin, Evan, and Jamie as we discuss listener comments about public nuisance fines, hermit crabs, evangelism tracts, and so much more! Is Evan a secret cult leader, and which of us is most likely to invite a door-to-door evangelist into their home? You’ll have to listen to find out! MENTIONS​The Force is SO strong with you! Get the Rogue One and Andor Episode BundleWant to hear the Spicy NOs of Evangelism? Listen on Patreon Evangelism Explosion: Learn more hereBible Tract History: Learn more from Chick Tracts Are you a Public Nuisance? Deep-dive into the law here Episode homework: Watch Saved! on Amazon PrimeThe Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In honor of the release of our Rogue One and Andor episode bundle at The Faith Adjacent Shop, we’re sharing our Sacred Cinema of the movie that started it all, Star Wars: A New Hope. Listen along as Knox, Jamie, and Erin unpack the sacred and secular aspects of this 1977 classic! You’ll hear about some recasting suggestions, bible studies that could be based on the film, tons of fun facts, and so much more! MENTIONS​Want our Andor/Rogue One Bundle? Get it hereWhere can I watch this? Disney+Star Wars Deep Dive: IMDb | Rotten Tomatoes The Faith Adjacent Seminary: Support us on Patreon.  I’ve Got Questions by Erin Moon: Order Here | Guided Journal Subscribe to our Newsletter: The Dish from Faith AdjacentFaith Adjacent Merch: Shop HereShop our Amazon Link: amazon.com/shop/faithadjacentFollow Faith Adjacent on Socials: Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today, we're sharing an episode of the No Small Endeavor podcast. These days, our culture is marked by political unrest, polarization, and anxiety. Beauty and art feel like a luxury, or even a distraction. In a special series, No Small Endeavor is asking: What if art, beauty, and poetry are exactly what we need to face the crisis at hand? Can poetry help us protest, pray, lament, and even hope? Host Lee C. Camp talks to poets like Haleh Liza Gafori, a poet, musician, and acclaimed translator of the Persian poet Rumi; and Pádraig Ó Tuama, poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound. Their conversations evoke thoughtfulness about how to fight for beauty in the current culture, and how to make it through the fires of our time together. In this episode, Lee talks to Joy Harjo, a musician, author, and three-term U.S. Poet Laureate. Camp and Harjo explore how poetry can act as a form of justice, a practice of self-development, and a tiny experiment in healing. You can listen to No Small Endeavor here. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.