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Tom Rowland of Saltwater Experience Television finds interesting stories in Fishing, Hunting, Fitness and the Outdoors and brings them to you in ultra high-quality audio. Unhurried conversations with icons, up and comers and people doing amazing things outside. Text "PODCAST" to (305) 930-7346 to contact Tom directly with questions or show suggestions.
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Jill Christopherson and Sean Trindell are the team behind FWC’s Catch a Florida Memory, the saltwater angler recognition program that rewards anglers for the fish they catch in Florida waters.
There are 75 saltwater species on Florida’s life list, and in 10 years nobody has caught all of them. That’s the challenge Jill and Sean brought on the show. You don’t have to finish the list to get something out of it, though. Your first 10 fish earn you a T-shirt and a certificate, and a photo from years ago still counts, as long as you’re in it, the species is clear and the fish came from Florida waters.
Before we recorded, I took them fishing in the Keys. Inshore, we went after the new Southern Inshore Slam: a snook, a redfish and a trout in 24 hours. The trout and redfish came easy. The snook did not. Between floating grass and dirty water, we fished for hours, and Sean lost a good one at the boat before he finally landed his first snook and finished the slam. The next day we went offshore with Jill. She caught her first cobia, and Sean landed a big blackfin tuna that I netted for him.
That’s what I like about this program. It gives you something to chase. Maybe you’ve caught two kinds of snapper and you need one more for a slam. That changes your plan for the day and the mood on the boat, and it’s a great way to get kids learning fish ID.
In this episode:
How the Life List, Reel Big Fish and nine Grand Slam categories work
Why catch-and-release counts, and when you need a measurement
The quarterly Secret Fish riddles, plus one we try to solve on air
The first Veterans Challenge, where the military branches compete for points
More than 4,500 anglers and about 40,000 catches, all reviewed by hand
Start your list at https://catchafloridamemory.com
Questions or brand partnerships: [email protected]
We’ve completely redone the Tom Rowland Podcast website. Take a look and email me what you think at [email protected].
#TomRowlandPodcast #CatchAFloridaMemory #FloridaFishing #SaltwaterFishing #FWC
Bill Oyster of Oyster Bamboo Fly Rods and Capt. Rhett Morris join me for a story about craftsmanship, business, and one very hard-earned permit.
Bill builds fly rods out of bamboo, a technology most anglers left behind decades ago. He had a four-year waiting list, but he was working until 3 AM seven days a week and realized he’d never make a middle-class income building rods. So he started teaching people to build their own. Today Oyster Bamboo runs 240 students a year through its classes, and the waitlist stretches two years out. Bill shares how one phone call from a determined wife led to his first student and why other rod makers warned him that teaching would put them all out of business. He also talks about building rods for President Carter and a royal wedding gift.
Rhett walked into Bill’s shop by accident in Blue Ridge, Georgia, and ended up building a 10-weight bamboo rod he named “The Permit.” He tells the story of the three years it took to land a permit on that rod and why it meant more than any fish he’s caught.
Learn more and get on the class waitlist at oysterbamboo.com
One company owned by Canada’s Cooke Inc. is catching about 70% of all the Atlantic menhaden that can legally be harvested. The fish we love to chase depend on that bait to survive: striped bass, tarpon, redfish, cobia, king mackerel, and bluefin tuna all rely on menhaden, and so do ospreys and whales.
I sat down with Chris Macaluso and Jaclyn Lunaas of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership (TRCP) to find out how this works. They explain how Virginia ended up with 75% of the coast-wide quota, and how a leasing loophole lets a foreign-owned company fish under an American flag. We also cover the Louisiana bycatch study, which estimated that 140 to 160 million additional fish are killed in a single Gulf season, including about 30,000 redfish and 250,000 speckled trout.
We get into the science too. Regulators found that the Atlantic menhaden population had been overestimated by about 40%. The science called for a cut of more than 50%, but the commission took only a 20% cut for 2026. In the Gulf, Louisiana and Mississippi have no catch limits at all.
Most importantly, Chris and Jaclyn explain what you can do about it, even if you never catch a striped bass in your life.
Learn more and sign the petition: trcp.org/foragefishrecovery
Chapters
00:00 One company is catching most of the menhaden
01:04 Meet Chris Macaluso & Jaclyn Lunaas of TRCP
05:20 Why menhaden are “the most important fish in the sea”
06:54 The reduction industry: fish meal, fish oil & pet food
09:22 Migration and the predators that follow menhaden
11:26 Pogey boats, spotter planes & the Gulf bycatch study
16:01 Warning signs in the Chesapeake Bay
20:18 Striped bass as the yardstick
22:01 The most efficient fishery there is
25:34 The ask: lower the quota and reallocate it
27:55 The 40% overestimate and the 2026 quota cut
29:59 How Virginia got 75% of the quota
33:30 Why other states banned reduction boats
37:31 The foreign-ownership loophole
40:20 The Gulf’s “Wild Wild West”: no catch limits
45:20 Ecology vs. economics and king mackerel
49:51 How do you count a bait fish?
54:58 Tarpon, redfish & the all-you-can-eat buffet
58:32 What anglers can do to help
1:02:06 Lessons from Captains for Clean Water
1:06:15 How to get involved
#menhaden #stripedbass #fishingconservation #tarpon #redfish #TomRowlandPodcast
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Most people drift their way into worse health, weaker relationships, and a life they don’t recognize. Dane Sanders says the answer isn’t another burst of motivation—it’s an operating system for becoming stronger in the middle of real life.
Tom Rowland sits down with Dane, founder of Men and Women of Discomfort (MWOD), for a conversation about why voluntary discomfort matters, how drift quietly erodes your gains, and why the hardest parts of life are often the ones that change you most. If you’ve ever started strong on a challenge, a fitness plan, or a personal reset—only to watch it fade—this episode will hit close to home.
Visit The Website: https://www.mwod.io/
You’ll discover:
Why Dane says MWOD is more than a challenge—and how it differs from programs built around a finish line
The difference between the drift and the storm, and why both are inevitable
How MWOD uses daily check-ins, weekly challenges, and a 12-week cadence to build momentum
The CREDO framework: commit, release, embrace, define, and own it
Why discomfort doesn’t have to be physical to be transformational
How a challenge called Ghostbusters helped people pursue forgiveness, reconnection, and meaningful conversations
Dane also shares how MWOD began with his friend Tim Kruger. Tim’s battle with cancer brought home a powerful idea: practice voluntary discomfort before involuntary discomfort chooses you. That became a turning point—transforming a fitness experiment into a lasting philosophy about faith, purpose, and becoming the kind of person who can handle what comes next.
This conversation goes far beyond workouts. It’s about identity, belonging, resilience, and the small choices that shape your future—whether in your health, relationships, work, faith, or the conversations you’ve been avoiding.
Dane Sanders is the founder of Men and Women of Discomfort, a community built around deliberate discomfort, accountability, and sustainable growth. The goal: to become strong and awake for love’s sake.
If you’re tired of starting over and ready to build something that lasts, this conversation is for you.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Men and Women of Discomfort challenge
02:21 What is the challenge and how does it differ from a traditional challenge
04:18 Discomfort as an operating system for life
09:17 The storms and drift of being human
11:45 The concept of anti-fragility and resilience
16:44 The story of Tim and the discovery of the challenge's purpose
21:28 How the program is structured and what participants do
24:53 The Ghostbusters challenge and calling out personal ghosts
27:47 Stacking wins and momentum in discomfort
32:24 The evolution of the challenge into an operating system
37:42 Most difficult challenge and lessons learned
38:07 The concept of Masogi and high-risk, high-reward challenges
39:32 Personal stories of endurance and discomfort
43:49 Uncovering hidden discomforts in daily life
49:35 The power of small daily improvements
54:34 The CREDO process: Commit, Release, Embrace, Own
01:03:17 Final thoughts on discomfort and transformation
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