Hashing It Out

Hashing It Out is part of the Logos Press Engine. JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_networkLogos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCESZama: https://www.zama.ai/ Zama X: https://twitter.com/zama_fhe TIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction and Background 02:23 What is Zama and Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) 05:57 Implementing FHE on Blockchain & Technical Challenges 12:32 Use Cases and Future Directions 23:24 Practical Example and Explanation of FHE Operations 35:42 Addressing Industry Adoption, Challenges, and Key Management 49:16 Concluding Thoughts and Future Outlook Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Vinay Gupta X - https://twitter.com/leashless Mattereum - https://mattereum.com/ TIMESTAMPS: 00:09 Introduction and Background 01:26 Tokenizing Real-World Assets 06:02 Establishing Legal Frameworks for Tokenization 11:26 The Role of Arbitration and Insurance in Tokenization 14:51 Defining Social Contracts & Bridging Norms 22:48 Formulating the Technical & Legal Specifications 29:50 Concrete Applications and Future Prospects 36:03 Broadening the Tokenization Approach 37:43 Expanding Real-World Asset Tokenization 40:57 Utilizing Mattereum for Personal Asset Tokenization 42:47 Final thoughts Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Vinay Gupta X - https://twitter.com/leashless Mattereum - https://mattereum.com/TRANSCRIPT:[00:00:00] Corey Petty: Quick ability to introduce yourself. Welcome back to check it Out. Got another great interview for you with Vinay Gupta. We've, uh, we've interviewed quite a few times over the past years, over the past podcasts that we've called or at least the name of this podcast. But, um, why don't you do the normal thing and give us an introduction as kind of where you came from, what you're doing, and, uh, why you're here. [00:00:23] Vinay Gupta: Sure. Um, so Vinay Gupta. Uh, I, um, uh, I guess a kind of cryptographic applications developer by trade, among others. Uh, I was part of the Ethereum team at the beginning. Uh, and I now run a company called Mattereum, uh, which is Ethereum infrastructure for handling physical assets and, uh, potential real world assets in general on the Ethereum and maybe other blockchains. [00:00:50] Corey Petty: Why did you move that direction? That's not where you came from. That's not where you got started with Ethereum. Like why? Why did you choose? Physical assets and material as what were you spending a good portion of your attention in time? [00:01:02] Vinay Gupta: Mhm. So, um, I mean, for me, the critical thing about all of this stuff, uh, was if you want to really seriously improve how the world works, if you want to get just really get hold of the world, um, digitization is the place to do it. Like, if you wanted to fix the music industry, you'd fix how music got digitized. If you wanted to fix libraries, you would fix how libraries got digitized. So when we look at the problems doing, you know, food, shelter, transportation, you know, the clothing tools, if we look at the kind of chaos of the material world and all of its inefficiency. If we got digitization of the physical world right, we could get absolutely gigantic systemic efficiencies of the kind that we can't currently get, right. Really, really big stuff could happen. [00:01:55] Corey Petty: What's right? Right. You should get it right. What is right? [00:01:57] Vinay Gupta: Well, that is exactly that is an excellent question. So, um, and, you know, I don't want to be facetious here when I say right is not wrong. Right. There are ways of doing this which will make the world clearly, tangibly, measurably, much, much worse. And there are ways of doing this which will make the world much, much better. And then there are kind of ways in between where it's a little one and a little of the other. So to me, doing it right is now I have to I have to phrase this carefully because I don't want to step on the landmine. Doing it right is not reducing inequality. Right. I have no problem at all with inequality. Doing it right is increasing the standard of living for the absolutely worst off in the world, to the point where any of us would change places with them and not feel like it was a life destroying tragedy. Oh, right. That is not the same thing as reducing inequality. [00:02:51] Corey Petty: So lowering the barrier of access. [00:02:53] Vinay Gupta: Lowering the barrier of access. Um, so the kind of, um, the kind of model of this, right, is if we think about what a decent, sustainable quality of life looks like, it's not that hard and it's not that expensive, you know, 2500 calories a day if it's rice, beans and locally grown vegetables is not a dollar a day. Right. If you've got good supply chains, you've got good market access if everything's working properly. What is it? 50 times a day? Dollar a day. $2, you know, is lavish if you've got good access to markets. Similarly, you think about health care. 90% of health care is preventative medicine and a hundred drugs, which are all generic and cost like $0.20, you know, for a treatment. This stuff is all very, very, very cheap. But what we don't have is a way of doing global resource allocation and global resource distribution in a way that will successfully deliver these things to people who need them. Right. Stuff is just kind of borked. We've got unbelievable global abundance, but we don't seem to be able to let poor people buy stuff at anything like the real price. So if we think about this as just like we want the best possible supply chains to run to the poorest people on earth so they can buy the things they need, absolutely. [00:04:17] Vinay Gupta: The lowest possible prices that would get you very, very close to where we want to be in terms of improving quality of life for the poorest people. Right. It's not about wealth redistribution. It's about making sure that everybody has access to the market in an optimal way. That will solve two thirds of the global problems with poverty, maybe more. And then you sort of take what's left after that process and say, okay, do we need to do some redistribution? Do we need to do this? Do we need to do that? Those are kind of separate questions, right. But the first step is market access. And market access is a tech problem. Most of the time getting people efficient access to markets is a problem of technology. They just don't have the stuff that they need to get access to the markets, that have the things that they need to survive and to thrive. Right. This is not just about keeping people alive. It's about making sure that everybody shares the benefits of the high tech industrial civilization that we're lucky enough to enjoy. [00:05:13] Dee: And what about, like, the people that don't necessarily want access to the markets? Like maybe they're living a life that's so, um, I don't know, just relaxed and, uh, you know, they're just real well connected. And they have what they need. They don't need access to the market or the field that they don't need it. [00:05:33] Vinay Gupta: Um, so the, the kind of archetype of this is the self-sufficient villagers. You know, your goat farmers and vegetable growers and some, you know, rural corner of India. You know, the nearest road is a 40 kilometer walk. And, you know, your folks have been there for 6 or 8000 years, right? So it's great up until your kid gets an infection. And then you kind of need some antibiotics, and the antibiotics cost you $0.65, and then your kid goes from being dead to alive. Uh. It's one thing to talk about treating infections. It's a whole other thing. When you start talking about vaccinations, you know your kid gets a tetanus shot. Your kid doesn't die of freaking lockjaw costs since MMR, right? Most of the folks in your village, they get MMR vaccinations if you don't do that. Mumps, measles, rip through rubella. Your you know, all kinds of problems come from these diseases. We've eradicated them here because people have access to the market for that stuff. Everybody needs those vaccinations. Everybody needs the antibiotics because the alternative is you watch your kids die and nobody wants to do that. [00:06:46] Corey Petty: I got a I have a disconnect here. Access to digital markets. Is one thing that is a tech problem, but you're talking about markets of physical assets. How do you connect those two things? [00:06:57] Vinay Gupta: Ah, that's what I do for a living, right? [00:06:59] Corey Petty: I mean, what is that connection and how do you keep that private. If you if you lower the barrier of the entry to the market, how do you ensure that that same market of physical assets is still low? [00:07:09] Vinay Gupta: Okay. So let's talk about this in kind of a macro strategy sense. Right. Digitization overwhelmingly makes markets efficient and overwhelmingly makes markets brutally centralized. So if we think about the music, um, you know, the music is the thing which has been most effectively digitized and with the most horrible results. Right? That is an example of doing it wrong because we digitized music customers consumers have access to. Was it 60 million tracks for $10 a month now from any one of half a dozen vendors? Um, but artists find it almost impossible to get paid to make new music. So in the process of digitizing music, we manage to basically kill the people that make it. And all the wealth was captured by the people that distribute it who can't sing a freaking note. And that is a tragic outcome. You know, I mean, probably half of my company are musicians, and there are people that would have been professional musicians if the music markets worked in the 20 tens and the same way they had in the 1990s maturity and probably wouldn't exist because literally half of the company are musicians. You know, we've got two choristers that would spend most of their time singing choral music. Uh, my managing director, Anton, uh, is, uh, a member of a band that, you know, played live gigs of the kind that you're recording deals in the 1990s very, very casually. [00:08:36] Vinay Gupta: Um, uh, Andrew, the guy who did my beautiful staging, uh, is a folk musician and, you know, basically just kind of does the video and a bunch of stuff for materiam, um, and, you know, like, how does he monetize that set of skills? He's a fantastic musician. But turning being a fantastic musician into actually making a living as a musician, the way that we digitize the markets, destroy the markets. And that if we repeat that for physical goods, there are. Imagine what happens if digitizing the housing market turns out to be the Blackrock owns 80% of the property in America, and then they basically just set prices for it. So we have to fight against the centralizing power that comes with digitization and markets, or we're going to wind up with centralized markets for physical goods. And you say that could never happen. How many of the things that you own came from Amazon? Like as a percentage if we just go in your house. I mean, for me, it's probably 50% from Amazon, 20% or 30% from eBay. I don't think I've bought anything substantial by walking into a sh

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork Logos Press Engine: https://press.logos.co/ RESOURCES: LayerTwo Labs: https://layertwolabs.com/ Drivechain: https://www.drivechain.info/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 02:40 Setup to Interview…BTC is in a Time Capsule 04:58 Bitcoin is Attempting to be the L1 Hub for Business Capture 05:40 Where do the Incentives Pool? 08:54 Interview with Paul Sztorc Begins 11:08 What are Drivechains? 14:45 What is the Difference Between BitVM and Drivechains? 22:55 What’s the Driving Force Behind Drivechains? 35:56 How do we Permissionlessly Innovate with Drivechains? 55:30 Why not try Drivechains on Ethereum? 1:02:17 The Difference Between a Hard Fork and Soft Fork 1:06:15 What Types of Interesting Applications Need to Exist on Drivechains? 1:20:15 Post Interview Roundtable 1:13:35 Privacy Pools Plug Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter Logos DiscordRESOURCES: Danny Ryan X Next Billion Fellowship at the Ethereum Foundation TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introductions 01:56 Protocol first development coordination 05:45 Documentation 10:41 Open development research and academia 17:01 Coordinating all the things 22:50 Advice for optimizing time 30:34 Ephemerality pipeline 35:47 Navigating social expectations 39:02 Asynchronous work 46:31 There is knowing and then there is teaching 50:16 Theory and process 56:45 What do you do once ossification happens? What does ossification even mean? 01:09:59 What do you care about? 01:15:57 Next Billion Fellowship at the Ethereum Foundation 01:17:12 Goodbye   Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

JOIN THE COMMUNITY: Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Ray Redacted X - https://twitter.com/RayRedacted Cisa - https://www.cisa.gov/ High_byte - https://twitter.com/high_byte/status/1744398652888449306 Dash - https://twitter.com/DashHuang TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Round table discussion 05:24 Blast from the Bitcoin Podcast Past 07:39 Ray Redacted Introduction 08:54 Biggest changes in security 11:32 North Korea 16:41 Being on a watch list 17:14 Crypto attacks 20:27 Don’t trust anyone 23:34 Multifactor authentication 25:18 Security education 30:52 Zero Knowledge Trust 33:17 Back to what has changed in security 35:55 More than one person=not a secret 37:19 Health related privacy 42:41 Convenience vs security 45:12 Forced password changes 46:45 IP addresses in your home 48:31 Authentication 52:32 @high_byte on web 3 security 53:56 Web2 vs Web3 59:29 Risks of phone for MFA 01:03:21 Generating techniques 01:07:14 Is what you do hard? 01:08:44 Describe security, in word or less 01:09:40 Goodbye Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Jonny Rhea X- https://twitter.com/JonnyRheaJoe Delong X- https://twitter.com/josephdelong Zak Cole X- https://twitter.com/0xzak TIMESTAMPS:00:00 Introductions01:58 State of P2P08:26 HIO blockchain infrastructure series09:42 Peer to Peer incentives27:40 What do you optimize for?48:44 Net neutrality50:12 Storage54:02 Decentralising everything58:59 Capitalism and resources01:04:34 Final thoughts01:06:38 Goodbye Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork Logos Press Engine: https://press.logos.co/ RESOURCES: ZeroSync: https://zerosync.org/ BitVM white paper: https://bitvm.org/bitvm.pdf TIMESTAMPS0:00 Intros – Robin Linus of ZeroSync 5:45 Introducing the Paper: BitVM Compute Anything on Bitcoin – first steps to implementation 8:48 How do you get zero knowledge proof validations on Bitcoin and security assumptions 14:00 How do you differentiate from drive chains? 16:45 Difference in resource costs - comparing BIP-300 and snark based rollouts on Bitcoin 18:55 Matching instructions with Bitcoin for computation 23:15 Designing for Bitcoin stateless script 24:30 The mission of ZeroSync – Creating a proof system to sync Bitcoin's chain state instantly 29:27 Pushing zero knowledge ideals on Bitcoin – positive and negative responses 34:00 A hard fork of Bitcoins consensus rules? 35:42 Is Ethereum a shitcoin to you? Money needs to be designed on mathematics not trust 37:15 Data availability problems and solutions 40:50 Tradeoffs of any chain as its scales. Bitcoin is and always will be proof of work 44:35 ZK Coins 46:40 Why do L2s in Ethereum ecosystem need data availability? 50:40 Long term data persistence and solutions – sampling, bridge nodes, and more 52:45 ZeroSync developer toolkit and the stack chosen 58:05 What is your shitcoin of choice? Gisele Bündchen birthday cake 1:03:05 Is what you do actually difficult? 1:04:00 10 words or less Can you describe Bitcoin Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

Corey, D, and Jesse chat with Ameen about the motivations behind Privacy Pools, historical references including Tornado Cash and Z Cash, as well as the mechanics and tradeoffs associated with the approach. Topics Covered in this episode:  Motivations and history – Ethereum, Coinbase, Tornado Cash, zk-SNARKs, Zcash. How Privacy Pools work – Setup, deposits, association sets, analysis Complexities and Challenges in added infrastructure and coordination Responsibilities and compliance Open source development and how to get involved JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos State Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork Logos Press Engine: https://press.logos.co/ RESOURCES: Ameen X Privacy Pools Paper Privacy Pools Website Privacy Pools Github Fundraiser for Roman Storm and Alex Pertsev TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 5:00 Introducing Amen 6:30 Why dive into privacy now? 8:25 Corey’s interpretation and background to the Privacy Pools paper 11:35 Ameen's motivations for Privacy Pools - history of Ethereum, Coinbase, zk snarks, Z Cash 11:50 Tornado Cash compliance tool and enhancing the power of compliance 17:30 Is privacy all or nothing? 20:30 Mechanics of the privacy pool setup. Deposits, association sets, analysis 22:15 Week long dispute of proofs and tradeoffs 24:00 Versions of Privacy Pools, shielded pools, z-cash comparison 27:00 Maintaining decentralization while working in different jurisdictions 28:46 The consequences and challenges of building on open systems vs base layer privacy 32:15 Additional coordination complexity and anonymity sets 34:35 “Goblins” or small scale thefts and edge case hacks 39:15 Who will manage the burden of infrastructure? Wallets and important role of relayers. 46:40 Are Association Set Providers a new set of core users? 51:00 Narratives are powerful for positive use cases to prevail 51:58 Who is responsible for judging the association sets of the association set providers? 56:00 Privacy Pools is just better than the status quo 56:37 Open source developers working in the space with OFAC. Tornado Cash 1:02:40 Describe Privacy Pools in ten words or less 1:03:20 Is what you do difficult? 1:05:20 Roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

Topics Covered in this episode: 1. History of Status features, challenges, and the road to building a Super App. 2. Challenges in existing infrastructure and Status' decision to build core infra 3. Technical details in delivering data ownership, decentralized messaging, and privacy 4. Decentralized Social and token permissioned communities 5. A look ahead at some exciting future plans JOIN THE COMMUNITY Logos State Twitter: https://twitter.com/Logos_network Logos Discord: https://discord.gg/logosnetwork RESOURCES: Status Website - https://status.app/ Status X - https://twitter.com/ethstatus Status Github - https://github.com/status-im Status Forum - https://discuss.status.app/ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction 06:55 Edgard introduction 07:40 Progress from the previous versions: Redesign, features, infrastructure 10:35 History of Status and the ultimate vision of a free internet and truly decentralized Super App 15:05 Why Status has taken time, commitment to principles, and delivering a premium experience 20:39 Challenges of decentralized infrastructure and delivering on the value proposition 25:30 Status communities, Decentralizing communication, Wall Street Bets, Ownership 28:38 Technical details of data ownership, Waku nodes, and distribution 33:30 Waku messaging – relay nodes, light push nodes, and driving scale 37:35 A gossip network – driving decentralization and privacy 43:49 Spam management – network level (Waku) and user level prevention (Status) 47:52 Decentralized Social & token building blocks – gating, permissions, minting, airdrops 55:25 Community Dapp Plugin system and Dapp Chat plug in system 58:40 Making a seamless multichain world 1:08:35 Closing remarks from Edgard – 2 years in the making 1:11:34 Roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

This is a special episode with someone who has been involved in the Ethereum ecosystem for many years. Jordi, a white hat hacker, has been building common good infrastructure and protecting people on the internet during that time. Topics Covered in this episode: 1. Dapp Node, Giveth, Catalan Independence Movement, and useful technology 2. Technical implementations and tradeoffs in zero knowledge technology3. Staying current in the rapidly evolving blockchain industry 4. What excites Jordi in the short term and long term JOIN THE COMMUNITY Network State Press - https://twitter.com/NetStatePress Hashing it Out Discord - https://discord.com/invite/eCwSWRyzam Logos Discord - https://discord.gg/logosnetwork  RESOURCES: Jordi X - https://twitter.com/jbaylina TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction 03:10: Dapp Node, Giveth, Catalan Independence Movement, and useful technology 06:14: Infrastructure decentralization connection to the internet 06:55: ISP’s and Spanish government censor voting in the Catalan Independence Movement 08:38: What does it mean for technology to work appropriately? 11:10: My mission 12:00: Why is zk technology so important right now 14:50: Zero knowledge is not only privacy. Also for validity and scalability 17:35: Tradeoffs between privacy and compression in zero knowledge proofs 19:20 Recursion, aggregation, and trees of proofs 21:00: What are the downfalls of current implementation of zkEVMs building on Ethereum 22:45: Is privacy a requirement to working? 23:40: Efficient aggregation of proofs in the context data storage systems 28:10: Speeding up msn operations and speed requirements 31:00 Keeping up with the pace of research 34:00 Building proficient teams 38:25: Speeding up the learning curve 40:00: Scaling Ethereum, liquid democracy, anonymous voting, data privacy and other goals 44:14: Scalability, usability and challenges facing utility 45:10: Prioritizing features, work, and releases 49:20: Risk assessment in the ecosystem 51:40: Define zk in 10 words or less 52:40: Is what you do hard? 54:40: Follow up roundtable with Corey, D, and Jesse Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

Corey sits down with Simona Pop: PG Steward ENS, Gov Advisor Element, Gov Advisor Optimism, for a Personals episode. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

We discuss the challenges of building a privacy-centric portfolio management tool and the tradeoffs required compared to highly centralized alternatives. We dive deep into local-first software and take a look at how Lefteris has made this a pillar of Rotki. Topics Covered in this episode: Lefteris' history in blockchain development and the path to Rotki Technical challenges in building private, secure portfolio management tools Local-First Software Exciting developments for Rotki JOIN THE COMMUNITY:TBP Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebtcpodcast Hashing it Out Discord: https://discord.gg/eCwSWRyzam RESOURCES: Rotki Website - https://rotki.com/ Lefteris X - https://twitter.com/LefterisJP Rotki X - https://twitter.com/rotkiapp Rotki Discord - https://discord.rotki.com/ Rotki Docs - https://rotki.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html Rotki Github - https://github.com/rotki Download Rotki App - https://rotki.com/download TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Intros 02:40 Motivations to build Rotki and Tax Code 05:00 - Managing the various DeFi opportunities and DeFi primitives 06:50 - Prioritizing new features and keeping up with the ecosystem 11:00 - Premium features of Rotki - Ethereum Staking, graphs, back ups and more 12:35 - Data structure and ecosystem growth 16:45 - Infrastructure costs and active management 19:45 - Securing Rotki while adding new features 21:44 - Supported ecosystems - more than EVM 28:50 - Nodes, Pruning, Transaction Hashes 32:00 - Local-first software and challenges in business use cases 35:15 - The roadmap and what’s next for Rotki 36:30 - 10 words or less - describe Rotki 37:00 - Is what you do hard? Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

This episode includes: Tornado Cash Founders Charged With Money Laundering And Sanctions ViolationsSocial Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear MarketRISC Zero's open source Zeth proves Ethereum blocks in minutes, instead of hoursOIN THE COMMUNITY TBP Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebtcpodcastHashing it Out Discord: https://discord.gg/eCwSWRyzamTIMESTAMPS00:00 Introductions03:43 Tornado Cash Founders Charged With Money Laundering And Sanctions Violations11:28 Social Platform Friend.tech Gains 100K Users in Days Even in Depths of a Bear Market19:40 RISC Zero's open source Zeth proves Ethereum blocks in minutes, instead of hours 26:14 Goodbyes You can also watch on YouTube. Disclaimer: The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed in this podcast belong solely to the individual speakers and are not intended to represent any entities, organizations or companies with which the speakers may be affiliated. The content provided in this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. The information discussed is based on the most recent data available at the time of recording. The content may become outdated or may not reflect accurately current affairs. The information discussed in this podcast is intended to be a summary and does not purport to be complete and no responsibility should be derived for the accuracy, reliability or completeness of it. It does not constitute legal, financial, tax or any other advice. The topics discussed may be complex, and the technical, legal and regulatory landscape can change rapidly. Listeners are strongly encouraged to conduct their own research, seek expert advice, and exercise caution when interpreting or acting upon the information discussed in this podcast. The creators, producers, and participants of this podcast will not be held liable for any errors, omissions, or inaccuracies in the content, or for any actions taken by listeners based on the content. Any references to specific entities, projects, products, technologies, services, or sources of information in this podcast do not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by the speakers or the podcast creators.  Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

Shane walked us through his long history in the world of messaging and working with Web2 giants including Facebook bots, Ebay, and email clients, in his journey to make connecting with each other more human. Shane is an experienced start-up founder with a refreshing vision and outlook on how to bring Web3 to the next billion users. Topics Covered in this episode:Shane’s background in the messaging space and his journey into Web3Technical goals of XMTP and how to drive network effects without the cold start problemRecent developments of XMTP including launching with Coinbase WalletHow XMTP Web3 messaging worksJOIN THE COMMUNITYTBP Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebtcpodcastHashing it Out Discord: https://discord.gg/eCwSWRyzamRESOURCES:Shane X - https://twitter.com/ShaneMacXMTP Website - https://xmtp.org/XMTP X - https://twitter.com/xmtp_XMTP Discord - https://discord.com/invite/xmtpCoinbase Announcement - https://xmtp.org/blog/coinbasewalletConverse App X - https://twitter.com/converseapp_TIMESTAMPS:00:00 - Intros01:45 - Facebook, Email, and connecting with stranger driving acquisition by Blackberry03:10 - Creating form factor messaging experiences in crypto06:30 - Identities, Messaging, and Privacy – A demo of Coinbase Wallet09:00 - Selectively disclosing and the analogy to Apple’s “hide me email”13:30 - UX, intuitive design and more user experience into Web316:30 - P2P messaging infrastructure of XMTP and owning your messages18:50 - The lifecycle of a message in XMTP23:20 - Breaking the shackles of Web2 walled gardens 25:00 - Web3 brings in new models outside of “Value is Data”27:28 - A world where no one knows XMTP exists and any wallet address can communicate29:30 - Marketplace and network dynamics – the network has a lesser take rate than the app31:05 - What drives revenue and growth?35:00 - Wallets are just managements of various types of identity and being chain agnostic36:31 - Universal inbox, spam prevention, filtering - Converse App example42:40 - Onboarding into web3 was painful but it’s getting easier44:55 - Coinbase Wallet partnership and messaging as the heart of the universe46:44 - Focus and roadmap ahead47:50 - Is what you do hard? Drawing from past experiences Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

Dee talks decentralized messaging with the Waku Lead at Logos, Franck Royer. Corey and Jessie jump in for round two.You can also watch on YouTube. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

Todays' show focuses on Carnot Consensus. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

This episode includes:-Crypto Security Firm Unciphered Claims Ability to Physically Hack Trezor T Wallet-Ava Labs Launches 'No-Code' Web3 Launchpad-Taproot wizards cause a stir at Bitcoin MiamiYou can also watch on YouTube. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

This episode includes DAS and Erasure Coding.You can also watch on YouTube. Logos Press Engine includes Logos Podcast and Hashing It Out. Logos Podcast is a show about building sovereign communities: the people, philosophies, challenges, and solutions. 

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