Behavioral Grooves Podcast

What would you do differently if you could live for 1,000 years? In this episode of Groove Jams, we’re joined by fan-favorite Annie Duke to dive headfirst into the wild possibilities of a much longer life. The conversation kicks off with a controversial babysitting prank that sparked Annie’s lifelong fear of death, leading to a lively debate about how immortality could reshape society. Would 80-year-old presidents be no big deal? Would archaeology become the most boring subject ever? Join us as we unravel ethical dilemmas, debate questionable life choices, and find out if Annie can finally conquer her fear of mortality.  Don’t wait 1,000 years to tune in—hit play now while it’s still relevant!

This week, we continue exploring jobs, careers, and callings with Jen Totsi-Kharas, co-author of Is Your Work Worth It? For a deeper dive into this topic, check out our conversation with Jen’s co-author, Christopher Michaelson, on last week’s episode! We sit down with Jen to explore the complex nature of work and how it can be defined as a job, career, or calling, with a particular focus on the potential downsides people face when they try and pursue their “callings”. While having a strong calling can boost engagement and life satisfaction, it also has its risks, including over-commitment, burnout, and a disconnection from the practical realities of one’s career. Discover who has stronger work satisfaction - orchestral musicians or prison guards, and explore how expectations and daily demands shape well-being across professions.  Together with Jen, we discuss how calling can change over time and the importance of self-discovery in aligning work with personal values and aspirations.  There is value in finding meaningful work, even if it’s not a perfect calling, and Jen helps us explore the need for a balanced approach that considers both passion and practicality in our career choices.  ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro: Dream job or prison guard? [4:44] Speed Round with Jen Totsi-Kharas [10:17] Happiness in “callings” vs. “jobs” [15:27] The benefits and downsides of callings [29:46] The difference between callings and jobs [34:42] The role of callings in different professions [40:44] The importance of finding meaningful work [46:37] Grooving session: understanding the nuances of work satisfaction ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Jennifer Tosti-Kharas Is Your Work Worth It?: How to Think About Meaningful Work Zookeepers, Callings, and the Double-edged Sword of Deeply Meaningful Work Musical Links Indigo Girls Closer to Fine Tori Amos Cornflake Girl (Live)

Is Your Job a Calling or a Burden? This week, we jump into the deep and sometimes challenging question: what role does work play in a meaningful life? Christopher Michaelson, one of the co-authors of Is Your Work Worth It?  joins us to explore the philosophical and practical aspects of how we view work—as a job, a career, or a calling—and the impacts each perspective can have on our sense of purpose and fulfillment. While a calling can give us profound motivation, Christopher warns that it can also lead to burnout and even exploitation. One of the most poignant moments in our conversation reflects on research from 9/11, which reveals that for two-thirds of the victims, work was not a defining element in their life stories. This insight reminds us of the importance of balancing work with other meaningful aspects of life. Christopher also shares insights from his personal family history and invites us to redefine success beyond professional or financial achievements. Together, we consider how our “90-year-old self” might view the decisions we make about work and purpose today, and how these choices impact our journey toward a balanced life. Join us as we dig into the importance of examining our relationship to work to ensure it truly aligns with our broader life goals and values. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro [4:11] Speed round [12:32] Exploring the nature of work [22:40] Is having “a calling” a bad thing? [36:24] Redefining success [48:30] Desert island music [53:48] Grooving Session: Work-life balance and living in the moment ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Is Your Work Worth It?: How to Think About Meaningful Work Christopher Michaelson 9/11 Portraits of Grief Project Musical Links Phillip Glass “Prophecies”  Allison Russell “Nightflyer”  Boy Genius “Not Strong Enough

Has Behavioral Grooves turned into a political podcast? Not really (ok, maybe kinda it has - but for just a few weeks, we promise ). With the 2024 election days away, however, it’s felt nearly unavoidable for many people, including us. Attending the Norms and Behavior Change Conference (NoBeC), titled, Democracy Under Threat, sparked some essential thoughts and insights that we feel compelled to share. Democracy relies on fragile social norms that are under serious threat right now. From startling statistics about the rise of autocracies worldwide to the surge in misinformation, it’s clear that a renewed commitment to democratic norms is needed now more than ever. So, here’s a crucial question for all of us to consider: Is party loyalty more important than the stability of our democracy? Join us to rethink democracy—not just as a system but as a collective responsibility – bound together by shared beliefs. Your voice matters, your vote is essential, and together, we can help fortify democracy. If you don’t have a plan for where and when you’re going to vote, put one together. Get a friend to vote with you. You may feel disenfranchised or fatigued or angry or sad…just make sure you vote. And put a happy spin on your voting experience: celebrate the fact that we can vote by baking an election cake (or election pie or even election cookies) to bring to the polls! Democracy is fragile, please treat it with respect. ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Special Thanks to: Cristina Bicchieri, Kaushik Basu, Diana Mutz, Gretchen Helmke, Horacio Larreguy, Christoph Abels, Ryan Enos, Robert Talisse, Giulia Maimone, Erik Groenendyk, Nikos Nikiforkis, Cesar Nuñez, Karine Nyborg, Jan Voelkel and Ryan Enos for their participation in NoBeC and their fascinating research! Topics [0:08] Understanding Democracy and Social Norms [3:07] The Fragility of Democracy [9:34] Polarization and Media Influence [17:43] The Role of Political Elites [19:55] Gratitude and Closing Thoughts ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Find Your Polling Place Polarization Series Center for Social Norms and Behavioral Dynamics Cristina Bicchieri Kaushik Basu Diana Mutz Gretchen Helmke Horacio Larreguy Christoph Abels Ryan Enos Robert Talisse Giulia Maimone Erik Groenendyk Nikos Nikiforkis Cesar Nuñez Karine Nyborg Jan Voelkel

A special message from Kurt and Tim, all the way from Philadelphia: November 5th is fast approaching, and now, more than ever, participating in democracy matters. Casting your vote isn’t just a civic duty—it’s a way to find your groove in American democracy. Tune in to this short episode for practical advice and inspiration to make your vote count, and join in celebrating the great American experiment!

What if you could give the U.S. Constitution a makeover? Ahead of the 2024 U.S. election, AJ Jacobs joins Kurt and Tim to dive into the lighter side of politics, taking a playful look at what really needs fixing in America’s founding documents (hint: it starts with grammar). While the spelling of Pennsylvania is no longer up for debate, the trio tackles plenty of other things that could — and maybe should — be changed for the better. What does the 2nd Amendment really mean? Should cabinet members have veto power? Are we missing out on some much-needed retirement parties for Supreme Court justices? Tune in to Groove Jams for a lively conversation and share your thoughts! After all, it’s a free country! Want to watch along? Check out the video version on YouTube

Ahead of the 2024 US Election, Kurt and Tim sit down with bestselling author and serial experimenter AJ Jacobs to discuss his latest project, The Year of Living Constitutionally. AJ spent a year living life according to the principles of the U.S. Constitution, adopting 18th-century customs along the way. From wearing tricorn hats and writing with quill pens to exploring the deeper philosophical underpinnings of democracy, AJ brings history to life while reflecting on the balance between rights and responsibilities, a concept that feels more urgent than ever today. AJ also shares his mission to revive one of America’s sweetest (and largely forgotten) traditions—Election Cakes! In the 1700s, Election Day was a festival of civic pride, complete with parades, music, and community-baked cakes shared at the polls. In true AJ fashion, he’s on a quest to bring this tradition back, reminding us that democracy can be both a serious and joyful act.  Throughout the episode, AJ, Kurt, and Tim dive into the importance of ‘epistemic humility’ - aka, the acknowledgment that we don’t have all the answers and must remain open to learning. From Benjamin Franklin’s introspection to modern-day challenges of misinformation, AJ challenges listeners to approach life and democracy with curiosity, gratitude, and a willingness to improve both ourselves and our society. So grab a slice of election cake (or pie!) and join us for this thought-provoking, timely conversation on what it means to live constitutionally. Need help finding a voting location near you? Check here! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Election day traditions [4:25] Speed round with AJ Jacobs [9:44] Living Colonially: What I learned [18:56] Epistemic humility and political perspectives [23:52] Constitutional originalism [36:29] How do we frame the constitution? [40:40] Election cakes and celebrating democracy [48:52] Embracing experimentation in everyday life [52:56] Grooving session: open-mindedness, civic duty, and cake recipes ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Join our Facebook Group! AJ’s Substack The Year of Living Constitutionally More about AJ The History of Election Cakes The US Constitution Musical Links Royal American Medley - Songs of the Revolutionary War Yankee Doodle

Why do we avoid the very thing that could bring us more joy—connecting with others? In this episode, behavioral scientist and human interaction expert Nick Epley returns to the podcast to help Kurt and Tim explore the paradox of social connection. Despite living in a time often described as a loneliness epidemic, many of us still choose to limit our social interactions and shy away from new experiences. While we’re hardwired to thrive on positive connections, anxiety and inaccurate assumptions often hold us back. Nick sheds light on why we consistently underestimate how enjoyable social interactions will be—and how this leads to missed opportunities for meaningful connection. Drawing from his research at Chicago’s Mindworks facility, where people from all walks of life participate in behavioral experiments, Nick shares fascinating insights into our social nature. His team’s real-world studies have uncovered how our expectations and assumptions can prevent us from fully engaging in new social experiences. Tune in to learn how our beliefs can shape our social lives and how curiosity and openness can transform any interaction into something rewarding. Nick offers practical advice on how behavioral science can help us lead more connected, fulfilling lives. And hey, next time you’re getting your morning coffee, say hi to the barista—you never know where that small interaction might lead! ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Intro: Connecting with strangers [9:50] Nick Epley and Mindworks research facility [23:16] Experiments at Mindworks [30:55] Insights from social interaction experiments [39:34] The role of expectations in social interactions [47:01] How to create positive interactions [51:18] Grooving session: Curiosity, compassion, and engaging with strangers ©2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Mindworks About Nick Epley Mistakenly Seeking Solitude Join our Facebook Group!

 Ever wondered what it would be like to snag a backstage pass to history’s biggest moments? In Groove Jams' maiden voyage, Kurt, Tim, and special guest Christian Hunt take on the ultimate bucket list item: time travel. Prepare for a wild ride that’s part history lesson, part “what could possibly go wrong?” Tune in for a rollercoaster of laughs, deep thoughts, and ethical dilemmas as we explore the slippery slope of time-hopping. What are the risks and rewards? Could curiosity lead to chaos? And most importantly, could we save the Beatles from Yoko Ono?  

Co-hosts, meet co-creation! This week, Kurt and Tim are joined by special guests Aransas Savas and Dave Norton, hosts of the Experience Strategy Podcast. Together, they take on one of the biggest challenges companies face: truly understanding what their customers want and need. Data can be valuable, but how useful is it if you don’t fully grasp the “what” or “why” behind those numbers? Aransas and Dave explain why co-creating with customers is a more effective approach than relying solely on data or assumptions. They dive into how blending behavioral science with experience strategy can create lasting value for both customers and companies, while also breaking through common barriers like internal fears, egos, and dreaded groupthink (shudder). Listen in to discover how experience strategy complements behavior change and why clinging to past successes can lead to blind spots in a rapidly evolving market. Ready to take your customer experience strategy to the next level? Tune in and join the conversation—because the future of your business depends on truly understanding your customers. And share your thoughts with Kurt and Tim in our new Facebook Group! © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Book a time to talk to Tim about Behavioral Grooves here Topics [0:00] Introduction: Customer needs and preferences [3:14] Housekeeping: BG Updates! [5:29] Speed Round [9:35] Customer trends and the importance of outside perspectives [20:51] Challenges in engaging customers and the role of behavior change [26:42] Common pitfalls to avoid [30:30] Grooving session: customer engagement, listening, and considering needs © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  The Experience Strategy Podcast Subscribe to our YouTube for Groove Jams! Join our Groove Community!

And now, the moment we’ve all been waiting for (even if you didn’t know you were waiting)... Introducing Groove Jams! Tim and Kurt are launching an exciting new video-first mini-series where they dive into wild hypothetical scenarios and tackle thought-provoking questions about human behavior—and so much more. With help from some fan-favorite guests, each episode kicks off with an intriguing question that pushes the limits of imagination and reveals fresh perspectives on the world. Get ready for laughs, “aha” moments, and maybe even a few WTFs, every few weeks starting this October! Subscribe on YouTube to be the First to See Groove Jams!

Now…back to work! We’re back to the weekly grind this week on Behavioral Grooves and exploring a topic Kurt and Tim know like the back of their hands - Behavioral Science in the workplace.  Joined by Scott Young, a seasoned behavioral science practitioner with years of experience in the private sector, they dive into how we can improve work environments by tweaking work policies rather than replacing them entirely.  Scott shares insights from his work and a recent paper he authored for the Behavioral Science Policy Association about the real-world challenges behavioral science practitioners face when working with large corporations.  From defining behavior change to navigating organization resistance, the trio explore the challenges of their work and offer practical solutions to overcome these barriers. Throughout the conversation, Scott walks listeners through a multi-step process for workplace success, focusing on defining goals, understanding content, ideating interventions, and rigorously testing solutions.  Tune in for a roadmap for business leaders on how to leverage these concepts effectively by aligning them with existing challenges and integrating them into everyday operations. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics  [0:00] Intro and Behavioral Grooves announcements! [7:39] Speed round with Scott Young [11:41] Behavioral science in the real world [15:10] Potential of behavioral science in business [21:41] Challenges to applying behavioral science in the real world [31:02] How to frame behavioral science to business leaders [36:50] Solutions and looking to the future [41:59] Desert Island music [46:18] Grooving Session: Integrating behavioral science into organizations © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  Bridging the Divide - Scott's Paper BeScy.org BASF commercial BSPA Join our Facebook Group! Join the Patreon! Musical Links  Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing Counting Crows - Hanginaround  

So…is there hope? Kurt and Tim think so! In this wrap-up of our polarization series, Kurt and Tim reflect on how much the political landscape has changed since they started recording last December. With the presidential campaign in full swing and November’s election approaching, it’s more important than ever to critically evaluate the news and information we consume. In this quick, engaging episode, they revisit the most impactful ideas from their conversations with researchers. From “nut-picking”—focusing on extreme examples of the opposing side—to the challenge of living in a fragmented reality, Kurt and Tim discuss how we can push back against the media’s efforts to keep us divided. Instead, they urge us to focus on bridging divides and coming together for the sake of democracy. Polarization is powerful, but it’s not unbreakable. So, stay informed, talk to each other, and most importantly—register to vote! Links Register to Vote! Ep. 434 – What’s Really Driving Political Polarization? The Science Explained Ep. 435 - Are We Acting Differently Because of Politics? Here’s What the Research Shows Ep. 436 - A Less Polarized Future: Real Solutions to Heal Our Divided World

In the final episode of the polarization series, Kurt and Tim delve into "affective polarization," where emotional distrust, rather than ideological differences, has deepened the divide between political parties. Drawing on insights from the recent MIT conference, they explore how these negative feelings have escalated over time. Stanford postdoc Jan Voelkl shares eye-opening research showing a marked decline in positive feelings across party lines over the past few decades. But there's hope on the horizon! Kurt and Tim explore proven interventions aimed at reducing polarization by fostering cooperation and shared identities. Through game-based approaches and collaborative strategies, they demonstrate that cross-party cooperation is not only possible but achievable. Featured researcher Josh Green explains how his game-based method helps bridge the partisan divide, offering an optimistic outlook for improving political discourse. The duo also speaks with Kati Kish Bar-On, a postdoc at MIT, who provides a philosophical perspective on polarization and how we engage with one another, while Yph Lelkes offers historical context and a dose of optimism for the future based on the 2022 election results. The series concludes with a compassionate, forward-thinking conversation, offering practical strategies to critically assess polarized messaging and steps toward healing the growing political divide. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics [0:00] Introduction: A final look at polarization  [4:07] Hope for American democracy - Jan Voelkl [12:23] Game-based interventions - Josh Greene [20:28] Polarization: a philosophical perspective - Kati Kish Bar-On [28:28] History and hope: Yph Lelkes [31:54] Grooving session - America, democracy, and critical thinking [41:30] BONUS TRACK: Young scientists look at polarization - Miles and Isaac Rand © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Kati Kish Bar-on Jan Voelkl Josh Greene Yph Lelkes  Register to Vote Here!

Why do we so easily form ‘us vs. them’ mentalities, and how does it impact our society? In the second part of this series, Kurt and Tim dive into the psychological roots of polarization, starting with the famous Robbers Cave Experiment. They explore how easily group identities and loyalties form, even among strangers, and how this translates into in-group loyalty and out-group hostility. The discussion expands to cover the role geography plays in shaping political views, as explained by researchers like Ryan Enos from Harvard. There’s also a compelling conversation with Ryan about whether polarization is truly worsening or if we’re just more aware of it due to better data.   Kurt and Tim then turn to economists who have studied how our political identities drive us to make decisions that sometimes go against our own interests. Kwabena Donkor from Stanford and Andrea Robbett from Middlebury College tee up studies to disentangle our preferences from our beliefs and they use clever, money-based studies to do so. Eugen Dimant, from the University of Pennsylvania, examines the societal impact of polarization, from trust and cooperation to the functioning of democratic institutions. The conversation underscores the complexity of polarization and the diverse approaches needed to fully understand and address its consequences. Tune in for deeper insights into the forces shaping our divided world. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics  [0:00] Robbers Cave Experiment [2:42] MIT’s PolarizationSeries [3:48] Geography and Polarization: Ryan Enos [14:46] Beliefs and Preferences: Kwabena Donkor [23:07] The Comorbidities of Polarization: Eugen Dimant [34:44] Affective Polarization: Andrea Robett [39:15] Grooving Session: Understanding the gap between what we say and what we do © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links Eugen Dimant Kwabena Donkor Ryan Enos Andrea Robbett Register to Vote Here! Want More Behavioral Grooves? Join our Facebook Group! Follow us on Instagram: @behavioralgrooves

Are we more divided than ever? How can people see past their differences and come together for the greater good? In this three-part series, Kurt and Tim explore the psychology behind the rise of political polarization in the United States. Tracing its roots back to the late 60s and 70s, they examine how the advent of cable news has played a pivotal role in shaping today’s divisive landscape. With insights from researchers around the globe, this episode highlights key findings from interviews conducted at MIT’s Polarization and Politicization conference. Experts from around the world discuss the critical role of perception and how digital platforms can either foster constructive dialogue or deepen the divide between opposing sides. Polarization is complex—it’s a persistent and growing trend we can no longer ignore. If you’re curious about understanding not only the nature of polarization but also how to combat it, this episode offers a hopeful perspective on promoting cooperation and a shared sense of reality.  Tune in next week for Parts 2 and 3 of this thought-provoking series! © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics  [0:00] History of Polarization [2:25] MIT’s Polarization Conference [6:00] Understanding Polarization: Sandy Pentland [15:39] Misinformation: David Rand [27:45] Meta-perceptions and propaganda: Mina Cikara [36:10] Why do we lack a shared reality? Yph Lelkes [40:32] The danger of political elites: Josh Greene [46:28] Grooving Session: How do we create respectful dialogues? © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  Sandy Pentland’s Media Lab David Rand - Debunk Bot Mina Cikara - The Gravity of Groups Yph Lelkes - Polarization Research Lab Josh Greene - Josh and the Cooperation Game Register to Vote HERE! Want More Behavioral Grooves? Join our Facebook Group! Follow us on Instagram: @behavioralgrooves

Do you struggle with maintaining healthy eating habits? Are you, like Kurt, stashing Oreos in the basement to avoid temptation? Believe it or not, making small changes to your environment can be more effective for managing your health than relying on willpower alone. This week, Kurt and Tim are joined by nutrition expert Monica Reinagel—an opera singer turned nutritionist and podcaster. Monica shares her unique insights on weight management and what really matters when starting your personal health journey. Context is everything when it comes to health decisions. In this episode, they dive into how simple tweaks to your environment, both public and private, can have a big impact on your overall well-being. Tune in for practical tips, expert advice, and the encouragement you need to start making healthier choices that work for you. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Book a time to talk to Tim about Behavioral Grooves here. Topics  [0:00] Oreo habits and environmental adjustments [9:22] Introduction and speed round [13:50] Are New Year’s Resolutions bad? [20:08] Eating, emotions, and environment [24:32] From opera singer to nutritionist - finding your passions [31:35] How we can look at nutrition through behavioral science [38:30] Tracking nutrition with the Nutrition GPA App [45:00] Desert island music [51:32] Grooving Session: influencing behavior by changing your environment © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  Nutrition GPA app Monica on Instagram Change Academy Podcast Behavioral Grooves Facebook Group! Musical Links  Bach - Spirits of Meditation - Suite #5 Aria Mozart - Symphony No. 40 in G minor

Get ready for a moo-ving conversation! This week, Kurt and Tim sit down with Gregory Berns, a psychology professor at Emory University, to explore the secret world of cows. Gregory shares his journey from academic to accidental farmer during the COVID-19 pandemic and how a group of miniature cows changed his life. There’s moo-re to cows than meets the eye, and Gregory reveals how his farming adventure turned into a real-life exploration of cow psychology, unveiling behaviors that challenge common assumptions. In today’s world, there’s often a disconnect between urban dwellers and livestock, and the trio discusses how we can reconnect with farm life and our food sources to become more conscious consumers. But that’s not all—tune in to hear how Gregory’s innovative “bud box” techniques show how understanding cow psychology can lead to stress-free handling and trust-building on the farm and beyond. Whether you’re a city slicker or a country dweller, this episode will expand your perspective and leave you with a newfound appreciation for the complex inner lives of the animals around us. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Book a time to talk to Tim about Behavioral Grooves here Topics  [0:00] A different type of episode! [2:44] Intro and speed round [4:49] How does a behavioral scientist start raising cows? [12:21] Understanding cow personalities [18:38] Psychology of animal relationships [27:59] Cow psychology and handling techniques [36:51] Music and cows [42:25] Grooving session - understanding our relationship with animals © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  Gregory Berns Cowpuppy: An Unexpected Friendship and a Scientist's Journey Into the Secret World of Cows Psychology Today: Cows Musical Links  Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama The Band - Don’t Do It The Beach Boys - Kokomo

Do women in the workplace have to choose between being likable and assertive? This week, Alison Fragale, author of The Likable Badass joins Kurt and Tim to look at the challenges women face in the workplace and how they can overcome. With her powerful concept of the “likable badass”, Alison teaches listeners the art of blending warmth with assertiveness to achieve success without sacrificing authenticity.  Alison unpacks and explores the historical disadvantages women have faced due to gender and stereotypical characteristics that often hinder success. She highlights how women can overcome these traditional obstacles by balancing confidence and kindness, offering practical strategies like positive self-talk, and building an “army of promoters” to elevate their status. Throughout their discussion, Alison emphasizes how small, incremental improvements and effective communication can help women build a strong reputation. In their grooving session, Kurt and Tim dive deeper into the concept of the likable badass, providing listeners with tangible insights on how small, consistent efforts can significantly impact workplace success and beyond. By focusing on building status rather than seeking power, listeners of all genders can gain valuable insights into self-promotion and confidence in the workplace. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics  [0:00] Empowering women in the workplace [4:20] Introduction and speed round [8:21] What is a “likable badass”? [12:20] Challenges faced by women in the workplace [16:12] How communication helps build status [27:14] Why we need to self-promote [30:12] Dangers of self-deprecation [39:32] Practical tips for becoming a likable badass [46:12] Desert Island music [51:20] Grooving Session: the importance of small, incremental improvements and promoting your own success © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  Likable Badass - How Women Get the Success They Deserve Join the Behavioral Grooves Newsletter! Alison Fragale Linda Babcock - The No Club Musical Links  Zach Brown - I Remember Bon Jovi - It’s My Life

Are generational labels dead weight? This week—after many technical difficulties and a nearly-forgotten anniversary—Kurt talks with organizational culture expert Jessica Kriegel about generational divides and why they are ultimately pointless and unproductive for both personal and professional growth. Jessica introduces her “culture equation” framework, revealing three critical elements that drive revenue growth and how missing these elements can lead to stagnation. A key focus of the conversation is the damaging impact of generational stereotypes in the workplace and how ageism, in any form, prevents us from recognizing people’s unique talents. Through compelling examples, Jessica explains how these stereotypes dangerously influence workplace practices—and what we can do to avoid them. Tim is back from anniversary-dinner bliss for this week’s grooving session, where he and Kurt reflect on the key themes from Kurt’s conversation with Jessica. The duo offers insights on the power of thoughtful communication and how being intentional with our words can shape organizational culture. Whether you’re a Boomer, Gen Z’er, or anything in between (sorry Gen X and Milennials), this episode has all you need to challenge stereotypes and start bridging those generational gaps. © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Topics  [0:00] Generational stereotypes and corporate culture [6:20] Speed round with Jessica Kriegel [9:10] Generational labels: a perspective [23:25] The “Culture Equation” and it’s impact on success [28:41] The importance of leadership for shaping culture [36:52] How to align purpose, strategy, and culture [42:25] Grooving Session: Bridging generational divides with leadership © 2024 Behavioral Grooves Links  Unfairly Labeled: How Your Workplace Can Benefit From Ditching Generational Stereotypes How to get people to give a sh*t | Jessica Kriegel | TEDxStGeorgeStudio Is Generational Prejudice Seeping into Your Workplace? Subscribe to our Newsletter! Musical Links  Atmosphere - “Sunshine" The Beatles - "Eight Days a Week"