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Bill and Riley debate which NHL players belong in the Hockey Hall of Fame and which don't. Episodes every few weeks.
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Episode Notes Part 1 of 3 on the Hockey Hall of Fame Class of 1966, featuring Toe Blake: 1934-48; 14 seasons, 12 quality Totals: 235G (7th All Time at his retirement), 294A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Cowley) for  529P (t-2nd All Time at his retirement - Cowley) in 577 Games (18th All Time at his retirement); 52.6 Point Shares (25th All time at his retirement); At his retirement, Blake was 18th All time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, Blake was T-8th All Time in GPG (14 qualifying players) 2nd All Time in PPG (4 qualifying players - Cowley, Stewart, Syd Howe); Blake doesn’t qualify for the APG leaderboard but if we lower the qualifier so he does (250A), at his retirement, Blake was 2nd All Time in APG (5 qualifying players, Cowley, Boucher, Watson, Syd Howe) Era: Of the 13 skaters to play in at least 492 games (6 modern seasons) between 1934 and 1948, Blake is 1st in Goals (by 31) 1st in GPG 2nd in Assists 2nd in APG 2nd in Points 2nd in PPG 2nd in Offensive Point Shares 5th/4th Forward in Defensive Point Shares (9/8 qualifying Forwards) 5th in Point Shares 2nd in Games Played 82-game average: 34G, 42A for 75P 3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 28G, 39A for 67P Playoffs: 25G (t-3rd All time at his retirement - Richard, Drillon) 37A (1st All Time at his retirement) for 62P (1st All Time at his retirement by 9P) in 58 playoff Games (20th All Time at his retirement) Per Game: At his retirement, Blake was 4th All Time in playoff GPG (Richard, Kennedy, Drillon - 7 qualifying players) 2nd All Time in playoff APG (Lach - 3 qualifying players: Cowley) 1st All Time (by .4) in playoff PPG (2 qualifying players: Apps) Era: Of the 46 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1934 and 1948, Blake is T-2nd in playoff Goals 2nd in playoff GPG 1st in playoff Assists 1st in playoff APG (by .09) 1st in playoff Points 1st in playoff PPG (by .25) 15th in playoff Games Played Frank Brimsek: 1938-43; 1945-50; 10 seasons, all as a starter Totals: 252W (3rd All Time - 1st American - at his retirement - Broda, Thompson), 182L (5th All Time - 1st American - at his retirement - Worters, Broda, Roach, Thompson), 80T (3rd All Time - 1st American - at his retirement - Broda, Worters; 5th American All Time - Vanbiesbrouck, Miller, Barrasso, Quick); 40 SO (11th All Time - 1st American - at his retirement); 95.4 Point Shares (3rd All Time - 1st American at his retirement - Broda, Thompson) in 31,230 Minutes (3rd All Time - 1st American at his retirement - Broda, Thompson) over 514 Games Averages: 2.70 GAA (12th All Time at his retirement - 17 qualifying players) Era: Of the 14 goalies to play in at least 82 games between 1938 and 1950, Brimsek is 1st in Wins 1st/last in Losses 2nd in Ties 1st/last in Goals Against 6th in GAA 2nd in Shutouts 1st in Minutes 2nd in Point Shares 1st in Games Played Season average: 25-18-8; 4 Shutouts; 9.5 PS 82-game average: 40-29-13; 6 Shutouts; 15.2 PS Playoffs: 32W (2nd All Time at his retirement - Broda, behind by 23), 36L (t-1st/last All Time at his retirement); 2 SO (t-16th All Time at his retirement) in 4395 Minutes (2nd All Time at his retirement - Broda, behind by nearly 1400) over 68 playoff Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Broda, behind by 23); Averages: 2.54 (t-10th All Time/last among qualifying players at his retirement) Era: Of the six goalies to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1938 and 1950, Brimsek is 2nd in playoff Wins (behind by 19) 1st/last in playoff Losses 1st/last in playoff Goals Against T-4th (2nd last) in playoff GAA t-4th/last in playoff Shutouts 2nd in playoff Minutes (behind by nearly 800 minutes) 2nd in playoff Games Played (behind by 14) Babe Pratt: 1935-47; 12 seasons, 11 quality by DPS Totals: 83G (17th/7th D All Time at his retirement), 210A (2nd/1st D All Time at his retirement - Clapper) for 293P (5th/2nd D All time at his retirement - Clapper, Goodfellow, Hollett, Siebert) in 518 Games (12th/8th D All Time at his retirement); 64.7 Point Shares (15th All Time at his retirement, 9th/7th D) At his retirement, Pratt was 8th/7th All Time in Defensive Point Shares At his retirement, Pratt was the 12th/6th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: Obviously Pratt doesn’t qualify for any Per Game leaderboards but, if we lower the qualifiers so he does (75G, 200A, 275P), at his retirement, among D*, Pratt was t-16th/10th D All Time in GPG 1st D All Time in APG (2 qualifying players - Clapper) 4th/1st D All Time in PPG (4 qualifying players - Schmidt, Goodfellow, Clapper) Era: Of the 15 D* to play in at least 328 games (4 modern seasons) between 1935 and 1947, Pratt is 5th/2nd in Goals 7th/2nd in GPG 1st in Assists (by 42/49) 2nd/1st in APG 1st in Points 5th/2nd in PPG 3rd/2nd in Offensive Points Shares 1st in Defensive Point Shares 2nd in Point Shares 1st in Games 82-game average: 13G, 34A for 47P 3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 16G, 32A for 48P Playoffs: 12G (3rd/1st D All Time at his retirement - Schmidt, Clapper), 17A (3rd/2nd D All Time at his retirement - Hollett, Colville) for 29P (t-2nd/2nd D All Time at his retirement - Hollett, Clapper) in 63 playoff Games (5th/4th D All Time at his retirement - Clapper, Hollett, Horner, Seibert) Per Game: Obviously Pratt doesn’t qualify for the per game leaderboards, if we lower the qualifiers so he does (10G, 15A, 25P), at his retirement, among D, Pratt was 2nd/1st D All Time in playoff GPG (Schmidt - 4 qualifying players: Seibert, Clapper) 4th/2nd D All Time in playoff APG (Colville, Hollett, Schmidt - 5 qualifying players: Clapper) 3rd/1st D All Time in playoff PPG (Colville, Schmidt - 5 qualifying players: Hollett, Clapper) Era: Of the 13 D* to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1935 and 1947, Pratt is 2nd/1st in playoff Goals 4th/2nd in playoff GPG 2nd in playoff Assists (behind by 9) 4th/3rd in playoff APG 2nd in playoff Points t-5th//3rd in playoff PPG 2nd in playoff Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Turk Broda: 1936-43, 1945-52; 14 seasons, 11 as a starter, 1 as a 1A Totals: 304W (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1958) 222L (2nd All Time at his retirement) 102T (19th All time, 1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1949 to 1955); 61 SO (6th All Time at his retirement); 120.4 PS (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1956) in 38,182 Minutes (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1955) over 629 Games (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1950 to 1955) Averages: 2.53 GAA (11th All Time at his retirement) Era: Of the 11 goalies to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1936 and 1952, Broda is 1st in Wins (by over 50) 1st/last in Losses 1st in Ties (by over 20) 1st/last in Goals Against 4th in GAA 1st in Shutouts by over 20 1st in Minutes (by nearly 7,000) 1st in Games (by 115) Season average: 22-16-7; 4 SO; 8.6 GPS 82-game average: 40-29-13; 8 SO; 15.7 GPS Playoffs: 60W (17th All Time, 1st All Time at his retirement by nearly double - held the record from 1947 until 1969) 39L (1st All Time at his retirement) 13 SO (9th All Time, 1st All Time at his retirement by 44% - held the record from 1950 through 1969) in 6,387 Minutes (19th All Time, 1st All Time at his retirement by nearly 2,000 - held the record from 1943 until 1970) over 101 Games (20th All Time, 1st All Time a this retirement by 49% - held the record from 1943 until 1968); 7th All Time at his retirement Era: Of the 9 goalies to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1936 and 1952, Broda is 1st in playoff Wins (by nearly double) 1st in playoff Losses The only goalie to record a Tie 1st/Last in playoff Goals Against 3rd in playoff GAA (with 3 ½ times as many GP as 1st place and over four times the GP of 2nd) 1st in playoff Shutouts (by nearly double 2nd) 1st in playoff Minutes (by nearly 2000) 1st in playoff Games (by 49%) Adjustment for Era: 2.68 Adjusted GAA (22nd All Time) Trades: Traded just before his 22nd birthday by Detroit to Toronto for cash - our Greatest Maple Leaf Trade of All Time Neil Colville: 1935-42 (as Centre), 1944-49 (as D); 12 seasons, five seasons quality as a forward and a further three as a D by modern standards of PPG/DPS Totals: 100G, 166A for 266P in 465 Games; 36.8 Point Shares; Per Game: Coville obviously doesn’t qualify for any leaderboards, but if the qualifiers are lowered so he does, at his retirement Coville was not on any leaderboards; however at his departure for WWII, he was T-7th All Time in APG T-13th All Time in PPG Era:  Of the 38 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1935 and 1942, Colville is 10th in Goals 7th in GPG 7th in Assists t-3rd in APG 10th in Points T-4th in PPG T-8th in Offensive Point Shares 18th (9th/6th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 13th in Point Shares 29th in Games Of the 16 D to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1944 and 1949, Colville is 11th in Goals T-10th in GPG 13th in Assists T-8th in APG T-13th (3rd last) in Points T-10th in PPG 12th in Offensive Point Shares 14th (3rd last) in Defensive Point Shares 14th (3rd last) in Point Shares 13th in Games 82-game average: 18G, 30A for 47P 3-year peak: As a forward (1938-41): 48-game average of 17G, 22A for 39P As a D (1945-48): 60-game average of 5G, 11A for 16P Playoffs: 7G, 19A (t-13th All Time at his retirement, t-4th All Time at his departure for WWII - Apps, Syd Howe, Boucher) for 26P (t-12th All time at his departure for WWII) in 45 Games Per Game: Colville doesn’t meet any PG requirements (obviously), but if they are lowered so that he does, at his departure for WWII, Coville was 2nd All Time in playoff APG (Cowley - ahead by .09) T-8th All Time in playoff PPG Era: Among the 74 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1935 and 1942, Colville is T-27th in playoff Goals T-36th in playoff GPG T-3rd in playoff Assists 5th in playoff APG 6th in playoff Points T-12th in playoff PPG T-14th in playoff Games Colville only played 6 playoff games once he switched to D and he scored a single point Adjustment for Era: Hockey Reference: 151G, 283A for 434P Adjusted 82-game average: 27G, 50A for 77P (+30P per 82 games) Per Game: doesn’t qualify for the leaderboards VsX: Doesn’t qualify Trades: Never traded Harry Oliver: 1926-37; 11 seasons, 5 quality by modern standards of PPG Totals: 127G, 85 A for 212P; 39.1 Point Shares in 465 Games; At his retirement, Harry Oliver was  22nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares T-25th Forward All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: Oliver does not qualify for any PG leaderboards but if we lower the qualifiers so he does (125G/75A/200P), at his retirement he still doesn’t make the Top 25 Era: Of 30 skaters to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1926 and 1937, Oliver is 15th in Goals 15th in GPG 22nd in Assists T-22nd in APG 17th in Points 18th in PPG 14th in Offensive Point Shares T-13th Forward in Defensive Point Shares 18th in Point Shares T-15th in Games 82-game average: 22G, 15A for 38P 3-year peak (1928-31): 44-game average of 17G, 9A for 25P Playoffs:  10G (t-15th ALL Time at his retirement), 6A (t-30th All Time at his retirement) for 16P (t-20th All Time at his retirement) in 36 Games Per Game: Harry Oliver doesn’t qualify for any playoff PG leaderboards, but if they’re lowered, at his retirement Oliver was T-14th All Time (t-2nd last among qualifying players) in playoff GPG T-16th All Time in playoff APG 20th All Time in playoff PPG Era: Of the 77 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1926-37, Oliver is T-12th in playoff Goals T-14th in playoff GPG 28th in playoff Assists T-32nd in playoff APG 17th in playoff Points T-19th in playoff PPG 24th in playoff Games Trades: Traded at 27 into the NHL for cash Traded at 36 to the Americans for cash Adjustment for Era: Hockey-Reference: 241G, 294A for 535P Adjusted 82-game average: 42G, 52A for 94P (+56P per 82 games) VsX: Doesn’t qualify WCHL: 1921-26; 5 seasons, all quality Totals: 90G (3rd All Time - Keats, Hay), 48A (t-4th All Time - Keats, Bill Cook, Art Gagne) for 138P (5th All Time - Keats, Hay, Cook, Gagne) in 130 Games (t-4th All Time - Ty Arbour, Keats, Stanley) Per Game: T-5th All Time in GPG (Keats, Hay, Cook, MacKay) T-4th All Time in APG (Keats, Cook, Gagne) 5th All Time in PPG (Keats, Cook, Hay, Gagne) 30-game average: 21G, 11A for 32P Playoffs: 3G, 2A for 5P in 11 Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Bill Cowley’s Career: NHL: 1934-47; 13 years, 11 quality by modern standards of PPG Totals: 195G (16th All Time at his retirement), 354A (1st All Time at his retirement, by 62, i.e. 21% more than 2nd - held the record from 1943-44 to 1950-51) for 549P (1st All Time at his retirement - held the record from 1946-47 to 1950-51) in 549 Games (t-25th All Time at his retirement); 57.1 Point Shares (20th All Time at his retirement) At his retirement, Cowley was 12th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, Cowley was 1st All Time in APG (only qualifying player) 1st All Time in PPG (only four qualifying player) If the goals qualifier is lowered so he qualifies (150), and the assists (250) and points qualifiers (400) are lowered so other players qualify, at his retirement Cowley was T-17th All Time in GPG 1st All Time in APG (5 qualifying players, ahead of Blake by .13) 1st All Time in PPG (12 qualifying players) Era: Of the 40 skaters to play in at least 492 games (6 modern seasons) between 1934 and 1947, Cowley is 11th in Goals T-7th in GPG 1st in Assists (by 62) 1st in APG (by .13) 1st in Points 1st in PPG 10th in Offensive Point Shares 31st in Defensive Point Shares (20th Forward) 16th in Point Shares T-25th in Games Played 82-game average: 30G, 52A for 82P 3-year peak (1942-45): 50-game average of 32G, 48A for 80P Playoffs: 12G (t-31st All Time at his retirement), 34A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Blake) for 46P (3rd All Time at his retirement - Blake, Maurice Richard) in 64 playoff Games (11th At his retirement) Per Game: At his retirement Cowley was 3rd All time in playoff APG (nearly 50% of the leader) - Lach, Blake Cowley doesn’t qualify for the playoff GPG and PPG leaderboards, if we lower the qualifiers for goals (10) and points (30) and if we lower the qualifiers so that others qualify for GPG (20), at his retirement Cowley was T-46th All Time (3rd last among qualifying players) in playoff GPG Still 3rd All Time in playoff APG T-8th All time in playoff PPG Era: Of the 44 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1934 and 1947, Cowley is T-16th in playoff Goals T-22nd in playoff GPG 2nd in playoff Assists 2nd in playoff APG (behind by .11) 2nd in playoff Points (behind by 16) T-5th in playoff PPG 6th in playoff Games Adjusted for Era: Hockey-Reference: 252G, 555A for 807P 82-game average: 38G, 83A for 121P Per Game:  2nd All Time in Adjusted APG (Gretzky) 6th All Time in Adjusted PPG VsX: 365G 820A 982P Per Game: t-22nd All Time in VsX Adjusted GPG 3rd All Time in VsX Adjusted APG (Joe Primeau, Boucher) 4th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG (Bryan Hextall, Charlie Conacher, Bill Cook) If the qualifier is set to 410 Games, Cowley is t-21st All Time in VsX Adjusted APG 2nd All Time in VsX Adjusted APG (Boucher) Still 4th All Time in VsX Adjusted PPG Trades: Never traded but acquired by Boston in the St. Louis dispersal draft Bill Cowley’s Accomplishments: Hart (‘41, ‘43) Top 5 in Hart voting a further two times Art Ross* (‘41) Back Check MVP (‘41, ‘43) Back Check Best Player (‘41, ‘43, ‘44) All Star: 1st Team All Star four times 2nd Team All Star once Top Player: Top 5 Player (by Point Shares) once (‘41) Top 10 twice (‘43) Best Offensive Player (by OPS) once (‘41) Top 5  four times (‘39, ‘43, ‘44, ‘45) Top 10 eight times (‘37, ‘38, ‘40) Goals: Leaderboards: Top 5 in Goals once Top 10 four times GPG leaderboards: Top 5 in GPG once Top 10 three times Single-season totals: 30 goals once 25 goals three times (1 of only 13 skaters ever at his retirement) Assists: Leaderboards: Set the single-season Assists record (broke the previous record by 10) and held it for three seasons Led the league in Assists three times (t-3rd most all time - Gretzky, Orr) Top 5 six times Top 10 eight times APG leaderboards: Set the single-season APG record (broke the previous record by .14) in 1938-39, broke his own record in 1940-41, broke it again in 1943-44 and held that record until 1970 Led the league in APG five times (4th most all time - Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr) Top 5 seven times Top 10 ten times (t-9th most all time) Single-season totals: 40 assists four times (most all time at his retirement) Points: Leaderboards: Led the league in Points once Top 5 six times Top 10 eight times PPG leaderboards: Led the league in PPG four times (t-7th most all time) Top 5 five times Top 10 seven times Single-season totals: 70 points twice (1 of only 5 players ever at his retirement - Richard, Lach, Max and Doug Bentley) 60 points four times (only player ever at his retirement) VsX Peak: Best 7 Seasons: Goals: 115th All Time Assists: 9th All Time Points: 19th All Time Best 10 Seasons: Goals: t-130th All Time Assists: 11th All Time Points: 28th All Time Bill Cowley’s Great Teams: NHL: Best Player? (set the single playoff record in assists - broke the previous record by 57% - and set the single playoff record in points) on one Champion (‘39 Bruins) Best Player? (by points) on one Final Four (‘38 Bruins) Top 3 Forward (by points) on one Runner Up (‘43 Bruins) and one Final Four (‘45 Bruins) Top 6 Forward (by points) on one Final Four (‘42 Bruins) Top 9 Forward (by points) on one Runner Up (‘46 Bruins) and two Final Fours (‘40, ‘47 Bruins) Injured (missed 9 of 11 games) on one Champion (‘41 Bruins) Junior: Best Player (led tournament in scoring) on one Memorial Cup Runner Up (‘31 Millionaires) Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Babe Dye: 1921-1931; 11 seasons, 8 quality Totals: 201G (3rd All Time at his retirement - Denneny, Morenz), 47A for 248P (4th - Denneny, Morenz, Noble) in 271 games (13th); 46.6 PS (10th) At his retirement, Dye was 5th All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Morenz, Nels Stewart, Joliat, Denneny) Per Game: Dye is 4th All Time in GPG (Bossy, Lemieux, Denneny) Dye doesn’t qualify for the APG or PPG leader-boards. However, if the qualifier is set at 82 games Dye was 9th All Time in PPG at his retirement 82-game average of 61G, 14A for 75P 3-year peak (1920-23): 24-game average of 31G, 8A for 39P Playoffs:  2G for  2P in  10 games Per Game: Dye scored 2 points in 10 games so there is no point Era: Of the 77 skaters who played in at least 10 playoff games between 1919 and 1931, Dye is T-34th in playoff Goals T-21st in obviously GPG (a joke, obviously) T-last in playoff Assists (obviously) T-51st in playoff Points T-68th in playoff Games T-47th in playoff PPG Gadsby: 1946-66; 21 seasons, 16 quality (by DPS) Totals: 130G (11th/3rd D All Time at his retirement - Clancy, Hollett), 438A (7th All Time, 2nd/1st D, at his retirement - Kelly) for 568P (16th All Time, 3rd/1st D, at his retirement - Kelly, Schmidt???) -62* in 1248 Games (3rd All Time, 2nd/1st D, at his retirement - Howe, Kelly); 100.3 Point Shares (9th All Time, 4th/3rd D, at his retirement - Kelly, Harvey, Clancy); At his retirement, Gadsby was 12th All Time in Defensive Point Shares At his retirement, among D, Gadsby was t-4th/t-1st in Offensive Point Shares (Kelly, Clapper, Schmidt???) Per Game: T-25th All Time in APG at his retirement (last among qualifying players) 4th/2nd D All Time in PPG at his retirement (Schmidt, Kelly, Harvey; last among qualifying players); Gadsby doesn’t qualifying for GPG, but if the qualifier is lowered enough so he qualifies (125G), among D, he was 11th/3rd All Time in GPG (last among qualifying players - Hollett, Clancy) Era: Of the 11 D* to play in at least 820 Games (10 modern seasons) between 1946 and 1966, Gadsby is 3rd in Goals 3rd in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify, less than half of 1st) 2nd in Assists 3rd in APG 2nd in Points 4th in PPG 8th in Plus/Minus 2nd in Offensive Point Shares 8th in Defensive Point Shares 3rd in Point Shares 2nd in Games 82-game average: 8G, 29A for 38P, -4*; 6.6 PS 3-year peak (1955-58): 70-game average of 10G, 38A for 64P; 7.9 PS Playoffs: 4G, 23A (8th/6th D All Time at his retirement) for 27P (13th/9th D All Time at his retirement); +5* (7th D All Time at his retirement) in 67 Games (18th/15th D at his retirement) Per Game: 6th/5th D in APG All Time at his retirement (Pilote, Harvey, Tremblay, Stanley); Gadsby doesn’t qualify for the playoff GPG and PPG leaderboards, but if we lower the qualifiers (absurdly) so he does (4G, 25P), at his retirement, among D, he was Last in playoffs GPG 12th/9th in playoffs PPG Era: Of the 34 D* to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1946-66, Gadsby is t-15th/12th in playoff Goals T-13th in playoff GPG 6th/5th in playoff Assists 7th in playoff APG 8th/6th in playoff Points 9th in playoff PPG T-5th in playoff Plus/Minus 12th in Games Johnson: 1947-48, 1950-65; 16 seasons, 14 quality Totals: 51G, 213A (13th D All Time at his retirement) for 264P (21st D All Time at his retirement), +56* (24th All Time at his retirement, 11th D) in  978 Games (8th All Time at his retirement, 6th D) 81.6 Point Shares (17th All Time at his retirement, 9th D); At his retirement, Johnson was 2nd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey) Per Game: Johnson doesn’t qualify for the per game leaderboards but if we lowered the qualifiers so that he does (50G, 200A, 250P), among D at his retirement, Johnson was T-13t/10th (last) All Time in APG 21st/17th (last) All Time in PPG Era: Of the 10 D* to play in at least 820 games (10 modern seasons) between 1950 and 1965, Johnson is 9th (2nd last) in Goals 9th (2nd last) in GPG 8th (3rd last) in Assists T-7th (3rd last) in APG 8th (3rd last) in Points 8th (3rd last) in PPG 8th (3rd last) in Offensive Point Shares 2nd in Defensive Point Shares 7th in Point Shares 6th in Games 82-game average: 4G, 18A for 22P, +5*; 6.8 PS 3-year peak (1957-60): 70-game average of 6G, 25A for 31P, +26*; 7.4 PS Playoffs: 8G (t-11th/6th D All Time at his retirement),  15A (t-17th/14th D All Time at his retirement) for 23P (t-15th/9th D All Time at his retirement); +4* (t-8th D All Time at his retirement) in 111 Games (11th All Time, 5th/4th D - Kelly, Harvey, Pronovost, Bouchard - in his retirement) Per Game: Johnson doesn’t qualify but if we lower the qualifier so he does (5G, 15A, 20P), among D, at his retirement, he was 18th (last) in playoff APG 18th (last) in playoff PPG Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Sid Abel: 1938-43, 1946-54; 14 seasons, 9 quality Totals: 188G, 284A (t-8th All Time at his retirement) for 472P (17th All Time at his retirement) in 612 Games (20th All Time at his retirement); 49.4 Point Shares; Per Game: Abel doesn’t quality for the PG leaderboards but, if the qualifiers are lowered so that he does (175G, 275A, 450P), at his retirement Abel was T-6th All Time in APG (10 qualifying players) 13th All Time in PPG (18 qualifying players) Era: Of the 15 skaters to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1938 and 1954, Abel is 10th in Goals T-8th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 4th in Assists T-2nd in APG (doesn’t actually qualify) 8th in Points T-7th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 8th in Offensive Point Shares 8th in Defensive Point Shares (6th Forward) 9th in Point Shares 10th in Games 82-game average: 25G, 38A for 63P 3-year peak (1948-51): 70-game average of 30G, 35A for 65P Bryan Hextall: 1936-44, 1945-48; 11 seasons, 8 quality Totals: 187G (19th All Time at his retirement), 180A for 367P (23rd All Time at his retirement) in 449 Games; 36.5 Point Shares; Per Game: Hextall doesn’t qualify for the PG leaderboards but if we lower the qualifiers so that he does (175G, 175A, 350P), at his retirement, Hextall was T-9th All Time in GPG (21 qualifying players) 18th All Time in APG (37 qualifying players) T-9th All Time in PPG (24 qualifying players) Era: Of the 21 skaters to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1936 and 1948, Hextall is 3rd in Goals T-2nd in GPG 9th in Assists 9th in APG 8th in Points T-5th in PPG 4th in Offensive Point Shares 21st (last) in Defensive Point Shares 11th in Point Shares 14th in Games 82-game average: 34G, 33A for 67P 3-year peak (1941-44): 50-game average of 24G, 33A for 57P Playoffs: 8G, 9A for 17P in 37 Games Red Kelly: 1947-67; 20 seasons, all quality Totals: 281G (11th All Time at his retirement) , 542A (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Bathgate, Beliveau) for 823P (7th All Time at his retirement), +50* in 1316 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe); 146.3 Point Shares (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe); At his retirement, Kelly was 8th All time in Offensive Point Shares 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey, Pronovost); At his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately: 3rd/1st All Time in Goals (Clapper, Schmidt) 4th/3rd All Time in Assists (Schmidt, Harvey, Gadsby) 2nd/1st All Time in Points (Schmidt) 2nd/1st All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Clapper) 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Harvey, Bouchard) 1st All Time in Point Shares (by over 12 PS) 1st All Time in Games Per Game: At his retirement, Kelly was T-22nd All Time in APG At his trade from Detroit to Toronto, when he switched to centre, among D, Kelly was approximately: 4th/3rd in APG (Schmidt, Harvey, Gadsby); Kelly didn’t yet qualify for Goals and Points but if we lower the qualifiers (to 150G, 450A) so he does, Kelly was 4th/1st All Time in GPG (Noble, Schmidt, Clapper) 3rd/1st All Time in PPG (Schmidt, Clapper) Era: Of the 14 D to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1947 and 1960, Kelly is 1st in Goals (by 73) 1st in GPG 2nd in Assists 3rd in APG 1st in Points (by 75) 1st in PPG 1st in Offensive Point Shares (by over 17) 2nd in Defensive Point Shares 1st in Point Shares (by nearly 19) 1st in Games Of the 49 skaters to play at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1967, Kelly is T-21st in Goals T-26th in GPG 13th in Assists 13th in APG 15th in Points T-16th in PPG 23rd in Plus/Minus 17th in Offensive Point Shares 14th (1st or 2nd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 24th in Point Shares 82-game average: 17G, 34A for 52P, +3*; 9.1 PS 3-year peak: As D (1950-53): 70-game average of 18G, 32A for 50P; 12.2 PS As C (1960-63): 70-game average of 23G, 43A for 63P; +24 Playoffs: 33G (9th All Time at his retirement) 59A (t-5th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Beliveau, Delvecchio, Harvey) for 92P (8th All Time at his retirement), -6* in 164 playoff Games (1st All Time at his retirement, held record until 1973); Roy Worters: 1925-37; 12 seasons, 11 as a starter Totals: 171W (7th All Time at his retirement) 230L (1st/Last All Time at his retirement) 82T (1st All Time at his retirement); 67 SO (t-4th All Time at his retirement - Hainsworth, Connell, Chabot); 75.7 Point Shares (5th All Time at his retirement - Hainsworth, Connell; Thompson); 30181 Minutes (2nd All Time at his retirement - Roach) over 484 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Roach); Averages: 2.28 GAA (6th All Time at his retirement - 8 qualifying players) Era: Of the 11 goalies to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1925 and 1937, Worters is 7th in Wins 1st/Last in Losses 1st in Ties Last in Goals Against (by over 200) 9th (3rd last) in GAA T-4th in Shutouts 1st in Minutes 4th in Goalie Point Shares 1st in Games Season Average: 14-19-7; 6 SO; 6.3 PS 82-game average: 29-39-14; 11 SO; 12.8 PS Playoffs: 3W (14th All Time at his retirement) 6L (t-8th All Time at his retirement) 1T (t-11th All Time at his retirement); 3 SO (t-9th All Time at his retirement); 690 Minutes (12th All Time at his retirement) in 11 playoff Games; 2.09 GAA (13th All Time - 2nd last out of all qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Gordon Roberts: 1909-16; 7 seasons, 6 quality Totals: 124G (7th All Time), 25A (t-6th All Time) for 149P (7th All Time) in 107 Games (9th All Time) Per Game (minimum 82 games): 6th All Time in GPG 3rd All Time in APG (Sprague Cleghorn, Malone) 3rd All Time in PPG (Pitre, Hyland) 24-game average: 28G, 6A for 33P 3-year peak (1913-16): 24-game average of 31G, 10A for 51P Playoffs: 0P in 2 Games Busher Jackson: 1929-44; 15 seasons, 12 quality (by modern PPG standards) Totals: 241G (5th All Time at his retirement - Stewart, Morenz, Joliat, Denneny), 234A (4th All Time at his retirement - Cowley, Boucher, Syd Howe) for 475P (3rd All Time at his retirement - Stewart, Morenz) in 633 Games (6th); 61.5 PS (15th) At his retirement, Jackson was 9th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, Jackson was 8th in GPG; Jackson doesn’t quality for APG or PPG, but if we lower the qualifiers so he does, at his retirement he was T-5th All Time in APG (Cowley, Watson, Boucher, Syd Howe) 3rd All Time in PPG (Morenz, Stewart; only 5 players and only 1 actually qualifies) Era: Of the 11 skaters to play in at least 492 games (6 modern seasons) between 1929 and 1944, Jackson is 1st in Goals 2nd in Assists 1st in Points 2nd in Offensive Point Shares (sort of 1st Forward) 7th in Defensive Point Shares 2nd in Point Shares (sort of 1st Forward) 3rd in Games 82-game average: 31G, 30A for 62P 3-year peak (1931-34): 48-game average of 27G, 21A for 48P Terry Sawchuk: 1949-70; 21 seasons, 15 as a starter, 3 as a 1A, 3 as a backup Totals: 445W (8th All Time, 1st at his death, by over 50 - Sawchuk was the career leader from 1962 through 2000), 336L (8th All Time 1st at his death), 171T (1st All Time); 103 SO (2nd All Time - Brodeur - 1st at his death - Sawchuk was the career leader from 1964 through 2007); 179 Point Shares (12th All Time, 4th Goalie - Luongo, Brodeur, Roy - 1st at his death - Sawchuk was the career leader from 1961 through 2001); -51.5* Goals Saved Above Average (75th All Time out of 78 total goalies) in 57,156 Minutes over 971 Games Averages:  2.50 GAA (t-13th All Time at his death) .907* Save Percentage (9th All Time at his death) Era: Of the 19 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1949 and 1970, Sawchuk is 1st in Wins (by over 50) 1st/last in Losses 1st in Ties 1st/last in Goals Against 11th in Save Percentage T-3rd in GAA 4th in Saves 4th in Shots Against 15th in GSAA 1st in Shutouts (by 21) 1st in Minutes by (nearly 6000) 1st in Goalie Point Shares 1st in Games (by nearly 100) Season average: 21-16-8; 5 SO; 8.5 GPS 82-game average: 36-28-14; 9 SO; 15.1 GPS Cooney Weiland: 1928-39; 11 seasons, 7 quality by modern standards of PPG Totals: 173G (12th All Time at his retirement), 162A (12th All Time at his retirement) for 335P (11th All Time at his retirement) in 509 Games (20th All Time at his retirement); 54.6 Point Shares (16th All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Weiland was 14th All Time in Offensive Point Shares At his retirement, Weiland was the t-18th Forward All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: Weiland doesn’t qualify for any Per Game leader-boards, but if we lower the qualifiers so he does (150G, 150A, 300P), at his retirement, Weiland was 12th All Time in GPG at his retirement T-11th All Time in APG at his retirement 10th All Time in PPG at his retirement Era: Of the 33 skaters to play in at least 410 games (5 modern seasons) between 1928 and 1939, Weiland is 5th in Goals 5th in GPG 8th in Assists T-10th in APG 5th in Points 5th in PPG 5th in Offensive Point Shares T-9th in Defensive Point Shares 5th in Point Shares 1st in Games Played 82-game average: 28G, 26A for 54P 3-year peak (1929-32): 44-game average of 27G, 19A for 46P Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Jean Beliveau:  1950-51, 1952-71; 20 seasons, 18 quality Totals: 507G (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Hull, Richard), 712A (3rd All Time at his retirement - Howe, Delvecchio) for 1219P (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe), +117 (t-21st All Time at his retirement) in 1125 games (16th All Time at his retirement); 138.1 PS (3rd All Time at his retirement - Howe, Kelly); Beliveau is 24th All Time in Offensive Point Shares, 2nd All Time at his retirement (Howe) At his retirement, among Forwards, Beliveau was 7th/3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Howe, Delvecchio) Per Game: At his retirement, Beliveau was T-13th All Time in GPG 4th All Time in APG (Mikita, Esposito, Cowley) 4th All Time in PPG (Esposito, Hull, Mikita) Era: Of the 18 skaters to play in at least 1066 Games (13 modern seasons) between 1950 and 1971, Beliveau is 2nd in Goals (behind by nearly 200) 2nd in GPG 3rd in Assists T-1st in APG 2nd in Points (behind by over 400) 2nd in PPG 4th in Plus/Minus 2nd in Offensive Point Shares (behind by over 50) 3rd (pure) Forward in Defensive Point Shares 2nd in Point Shares (behind by nearly 60) 82-game average: 37G, 52A for 89P, +9* 3-year peak (1958-61): 70-game average of 40G, 52A for 92P, +11* Gordie Howe: 1946-71; 1979-80; 26 seasons, 25 quality Totals: 801G (2nd All Time – Gretzky - 1st All Time at his initial retirement by 232; Howe was the career leader in goals from 1963-64 through 1993-94), 1049A (10th All Time – 1st All Time at his initial retirement by 300; Howe was the career leader in assists from 1957-58 through 1987-88) for 1850P (4th – Gretzky, Jagr, Messier - 1st All Time at his initial retirement by nearly 600; Howe was the career leader in points from 1959-60 through 1989-90); +160* (14th All Time at his initial retirement) in 1767 Games (2nd All Time - Marleau - 1st All Time at his retirement by 300; Howe was the career leader in Games Played from 1961-62 through 2019-20) 217.1 PS (4th All Time - Gretzky, Bourque, Luongo - 1st All Time at his retirement by nearly 69; Howe was the career leader from 1960-61 to 1994-95); Howe is 2nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Gretzky) - he was 1st All Time at his initial retirement by nearly 69 and was the career leader from 1958-59 until 1993-94 Howe is the 15th/13th Forward All Time in Defensive Point Shares - at his initial retirement he was 3rd/1st All Time Per Game: At his initial retirement in 1971, Howe was 11th All Time in GPG t-5th in APG (Mikita, Esposito, Cowley, Beliveau) 5th in PPG (Esposito, Hull, Mikita, Beliveau; Howe was the career leader in PPG from 1953-54 through 1958-59) Era: Of the 13 skaters to play in at least 1148 games (14 modern seasons) between 1946 and 1971, Howe is 1st in Goals (by 369) 1st in GPG (by 0.17) 1st in Assists (by 300) 1st in APG 1st in Points (669) 1st in PPG (by 0.25) 2nd in Plus/Minus 1st in Offensive Point Shares (by more than double his teammate) 8th (2nd/1st Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 1st in Point Shares (by 68.7) 82-game average: 37G, 48A for 86P, +7*; 8.7 PS 3-year peak (1950-53): 70-game average of 46G, 43A for 89P Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes The Hall of Fame Class of 1972 is so big - featuring 3 All Time Greats - we had to split it up into two episodes. In Part 1: Bernie "Boom Boom" Geoffrion: 1950-64, 1966-68; 16 seasons, 14 quality Totals: 393G (3rd All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Richard), 429A (12th All Time at his first retirement) for 822P (5th All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Richard, Lindsay, Beliveau), +39* in 883 Games; 97.5 Point Shares (12th All Time at his first retirement); At his 1st retirement, Geoffrion was  12th All time in Offensive Point Shares 21st Forward All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: At his first retirement, Geoffrion was T-8th All Time in GPG 9th All Time in APG T-5th All Time in PPG (Beliveau, Howe, Bathgate, Cowley) Era: Of the 19 skaters to play in at least 738 games between 1950 and 1964, Geoffrion is 2nd in Goals (behind Howe by 125) 2nd in GPG (6 qualifying players) 6th in Assists T-2nd in APG (7 qualifying players) 2nd in Points (behind by Howe by 355) 2nd in PPG (5 qualifying players) 6th in Plus/Minus 14th in Games 2nd in Offensive Point Shares (behind Howe by 44.9) 3rd Forward in Defensive Point Shares 4th in Point Shares 14th in Games 82-game average: 37G, 40A for 76P, +4* 3-year peak (1958-61): 70-game average of 39G, 50A for 89P, +5 Harry "Hap" Holmes: 1917-18, 1926-28; 4 seasons, 3 as a starter Totals: 39W (9th All Time at his retirement) 54L (6th All Time at his retirement) 10T (7th All Time at his retirement); 17 Shutouts (8th All Time at his retirement) in 6409 Minutes (7th All Time at his retirement) over 103 Games (7th All Time at his retirement); 15.7 Point Shares (10th All Time at his retirement) Average: 2.47 GAA (11th All Time at his retirement - doesn’t actually qualify for the leader-board) Era: not really applicable because his four seasons are spread out over 11 years Season average: 10-14-3; 4 SO in 26 Games; 3.9 PS 82-game average: 31-43-8; 14 SO; 12.5 PS Reginald "Hooley" Smith: 1924-41; 17 seasons, 10 quality (by modern PPG standards) Totals: 200G (10th All Time at his retirement),  225A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Boucher) for  425P (4th All Time at his retirement - Stewart, Morenz, Joliat) in  715 games (1st All Time at his retirement and he was the career leader in games played from the 1939-40 season to the 1942-43 season)  65.3 PS (12th); 7th All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement 10th Forward* All Time in Defensive Point Shares at his retirement Per Game: At his retirement, Smith was 10th All Time in GPG (last among qualifying players); Smith doesn’t qualify for either AGP or PPG leader-boards, but if we lower the qualifiers so that he does, at his retirement, he was 3rd All Time in APG (Boucher, Morenz - last among qualifying players, and none actually qualify) 5th All Time in PPG (Morenz, Stewart, Boucher, Joliat - last among qualifying players, only Morenz actually qualifies) Era: Of the 10 skaters to play in at least 574 Games (7 modern seasons), Smith is 4th in Goals 4th in GPG 1st in Assists 1st in APG (doesn’t actually qualify) 2nd in Points 4th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 3rd in Offensive Point Shares 4th in Defensive Point Shares 4th in Point Shares 82-game average: 23G, 25A for 48P 3-year peak (1931-34): 48-game average of 17G, 26A for 43P Stay tuned for Part 2! Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Doug Harvey: 1947-64, 1966-67, 1968-69; 19 seasons, 17 seasons Totals: 88G (21st/13th D All Time at his first retirement), 452A (2nd/1st D All Time at his first retirement - Kelly)  for 540P (4th/2nd D All Time at his first retirement - ), +46* (13th/12th D All Time at his first retirement) in 1113 Games (4th All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Gadsby, Kelly); 123.2 Point Shares (4th All Time at his first retirement - Howe, Kelly, Richard - 1st D); At his retirement, Harvey was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares (by 7.5 DPS) At his retirement, Harvey was 7th/4th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares - Kelly, Clapper, Schmidt, Shore, Gadsby, Clancy) Per Game: Harvey obviously doesn’t qualify for the GPG leader-boards and, didn’t qualify for the PPG qualifier at his first retirement; at his first retirement, among D, Harvey was 3rd/1st D All Time in APG - Schmidt, Kelly (4 qualifying D); If the qualifiers are lowered so that Harvey qualifies, at his first retirement, among D, Harvey was 3rd/1st All Time in PPG - Schmidt, Kelly, Clapper (5 qualifying D) Era: Of the 12 D to play in at least 738 Games (9 modern seasons) between 1947 and 1964, Harvey is 4th/3rd in Goals t-5th/4th in GPG 2nd/1st in Assists 2nd/1st in APG 3rd/2nd in Points 2nd/1st in PPG 5th/4th in Plus/Minus 3rd/2nd in Offensive Point Shares 1st in Defensive Point Shares (ahead by 7.5 DPS) 2nd/1st in Point Shares 3rd/2nd in Games 82-game average: 7G, 34A for 40P, +3* 3-year peak (1954-57): 70-game average of 8G, 58A for 66P; 10.1 PS Playoffs: 8G (t-10th/6th D All Time at his first retirement), 64A (1st D All Time at his first retirement - by 10 over Kelly and 24 over Pilote) for 72P (2nd/1st D All Time at his first retirement), +7 (6th All Time at his first retirement) in 137 Games (4th All Time at his first retirement - Kelly, Richard, Howe); Per Game: Harvey obviously doesn’t qualify for the GPG leader-board; at his first retirement, among D, Harvey was 2nd D All Time in playoff APG (4 qualifying players) 2nd/1st D All Time in playoff PPG (2 qualifying players); If the qualifier is set absurdly low, Harvey was last among qualifying D in playoff GPG Era: Of the 27 D to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1947 and 1964, Harvey is t-2nd/t-1st in playoff Goals (Kelly is ahead by 22) t-9th/8th in playoff GPG (obviously doesn’t qualify) 1st in playoff Assists (ahead by 10/24) 2nd in playoff APG 2nd/1st in playoff Points 3rd/2nd in playoff PPG 3rd in playoff Plus/Minus 2nd/1st in playoff Games Adjustment for Era: Hockey-Reference: 102G, 573A for 675P Per Game: Among D, Harvey is T-25th All Time in Adjusted APG VsX: Goals: Doesn’t qualify 763A 739P Traded at 36 for Lou Fontinato (29) Chuck Rayner: 1940-42, 1945-53; 10 seasons, 7 as a Starter Totals: 138W (13th All Time at his retirement) 207L (4th All Time at his retirement - Worters, Broda, Lumley) 78T (5th All Time at his retirement - Broda, Lumley, Worters, Brimsek); 25 SO (16th All Time at his retirement) in 25,551 Minutes (10th All Time at his retirement)  over 425 Games (9th All Time at his retirement); 61.6 PS (13th All Time at his retirement) Averages: 3.03 GAA (18th All Time at his retirement - last among qualifying players) Era: Of the 9 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1940 and 1953, Rayner is 5th in Wins 2nd/2nd last in Losses 2nd in Ties 2nd/2nd last in Goals Against 2nd last in GAA 5th in Shutouts 4th in Minutes 5th in Goalie Point Shares 3rd in Games Season average: 14-21-7; 3 SO; 6.2 PS in 43 Games 82-game average: 27-40-15; 5 SO; 11.9 PS Playoffs: 9W (t-17th All Time at his retirement) 9L (17th All Time at his retirement); 1 SO in 1134 Minutes (21st All Time at his retirement) over 18 Games (18th All Time at his retirement); Averages:  2.43 GAA (Rayner doesn’t qualify for the leader-boards but if we lower the qualifier so he does he was 14th All Time) Era: Of the 13 goalies to play in at least 10 playoff games between 1940 and 1953, Rayner is T-8th in playoff Wins t-9th/t-4th in playoff Losses 8th in playoff GAA T-10th (2nd last) in playoff Shutouts 10th in playoff Games Adjustment for Era: 3.25 GAA (doesn’t qualify for other adjustments due to no saves recorded) Trades: never traded For Tommy Smith, please listen to episode 32 Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Bill Burch: 1922-33; 11 seasons, 5 quality by modern standard of PPG Totals: 136G (10th All Time at his retirement) 60A for 196P (14th All Time at his retirement) in 390 Games (t-7th All Time at his retirement); 40.2 PS (18th All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Burch was 12th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Among Forwards, Burch was t-17th All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: Burch doesn’t qualify for any per game leader-board, but if we lower the qualifiers to 100G, 50A and 150P, at his retirement Burch was T-17th All Time in GPG (last in APG among all qualifying players) T-24th All Time in PPG Era: Among the 10 skaters to play in at least 328 Games (4 modern seasons), between 1922 and 1933, Burch is 4th in Goals T-4th in GPG t-9th /last in Assists 10th/last in APG 5th in Points 7th in PPG 5th in Offensive Point Shares 8th in Defensive Point Shares 5th in Point Shares 82-game average: 29G, 12A for 41P 3-year peak (1922-25): 24-game average of 16G, 6A for 22P Art Coulter:  1931-42; 11 seasons, 10 quality by DPS Totals: 31G, 82A (21st/14th? D All Time at his retirement) for 113P (25th/18th? D All Time at his retirement) in 458 Games (17th/14th? D All Time at his retirement); 46.1 Point Shares (16th/14th D All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Coulter was as high as 6th All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: Obviously he doesn’t qualify, but if the qualifiers are lowered to the hilariously low 30G, 80A, 100P, Coulter is last in GPG and APG and 2nd last in PPG Era: Of the 18 “D” to play in at least 328 Games (4 modern seasons) between 1931 and 1942, Coulter is 12th in Goals T-13th in GPG (no Goals qualifier) 11th in Assists 11th in APG (no Assists qualifier) 11th in Points 11th in PPG (no Points qualifier) 11th in Offensive Point Shares 1st in Defensive Point Shares 6th in Point Shares 4th in Games 82-game average: 6G, 15A for 21P, 8.3 PS 3-year peak (1937-40): 48-game average of 4G, 10A for 13P, 5.4 PS Tommy Dunderdale: NHA: 1910-11; 2 seasons, both quality Totals: 27G for  27P in 21 Games Per Game: if the qualifier is set to 20 Games, Dunderdale is 11th All Time in GPG 17th All Time in PPG 16-game average: 21G for 21P Playoffs: no GP Trades: Sent from the Shamrocks to the Bulldogs at 23 PCHA: 1911-23; 13 seasons, 11 quality? Totals: 194G (1st All Time), 60A (t-5th All Time - Cyclone Taylor, Mickey MacKay, Eddie Oatman, Bernie Morris) 254P (2nd All Time - Taylor) in 231 Games (3rd All Time - Bobby Rowe, Smokey Harris) Per Game: If the qualifier is set to 82 games, Dunderdale is 1st All Time in GPG 14th All Time in APG 8th All Time in PPG 24-game average: 20G, 6A for 26P Didn’t bother to calculate a 3-year peak Playoffs: 5G, 6A for 11P in 15 Games Traded multiple times, I think WCHL: 1923-24, 1 season, not quality Total: 2G, 1A for 3P in 17 Games 30-game average: 4G, 2A for 5P Dickie Moore: 1951-63, 1964-65, 1967-68; 14 seasons, 9 quality Totals: 261G (11th All Time at his first retirement), 346A (14th All Time at his first retirement) for 607P (11th All Time at his first retirement), +63* (9th All Time at his first retirement) in 719 Games; 65.2 Point Shares (13th Forward All Time at his first retirement); At his retirement, Moore was 15th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his first retirement, Moore was 16th All Time in GPG T-9th All Time in APG 10th All Time in PPG Era: Of the 36 skaters to play in at least 574 games (7 modern seasons) between 1951 and 1963, Moore is 5th in Goals 4th in GPG (8 qualifying players) 9th in Assists 5th in APG (10 qualifying players) 6th in Points 5th in PPG (8 qualifying players) 3rd in Plus/Minus 6th in Offensive Point Shares 18th in Defensive Point shares (5th Forward) 11th in Point Shares 82-game average: 30G, 39A for 69P, +7 3-year peak (1958-1961): 70-game average of 36G, 48A for 84P, +24* Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes George Armstrong: NHL: 1949-71; 21 seasons, 15 quality Totals: 296G (16th All Time at his retirement), 417A (20th All Time at his retirement) for 713P (16th All Time at his retirement), +101 in 1188 Games (11th All Time at his retirement); 66 Point Shares; Among Forwards, Armstrong was 12th/10th All Time in Defensive Point Shares at his retirement Per Game: Not in the Top 25 at his retirement Era: Of the 12 skaters to play in at least 1148 games (14 modern seasons) between 1949 and 1971, Armstrong is 4th (3rd last forward) in Goals 4th in GPG 5th (2nd last forward) in Assists 4th in APG (3rd last forward) 5th (3rd last forward) in Points 5th in PPG (3rd last forward) 4th in Plus/Minus 5th (3rd last forward) in Offensive Point Shares 10th (3rd last) in Defensive Point Shares (4th/5th Forward) 9th in Point Shares 82-game average: 21G, 29A for 49P, +7* 3-year peak (1955-1958): 70-game average of 20G, 32A for 52P Ace Bailey: 1926-34; 8 seasons, 4 quality (by modern standards of PPG) Totals: 111G (t-23rd All Time at his retirement), 81A (t-20th All Time at his retirement) for 192P (21st All Time at his retirement) in 316 Games; 36.2 PS (23rd All Time); At his retirement, Bailey was 17th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: Bailey doesn’t qualify for the leader-boards, but if we lower the qualifiers to 100G, 50A and 150P, at his retirement, Bailey was 20th All Time in GPG T-25th All Time in APG 20th All Time in PPG Era: Of the 58 skaters to play in at least 246 Games between 1926 in 1934, Bailey is 11th in Goals T-8th in GPG (nobody actually qualifies) 14th in Assists T-12th in APG (nobody actually qualifies) 12th in Points 10th in PPG (nobody actually qualifies) 11th in Offensive Point Shares 21st Forward in Defensive Point Shares 15th in Point Shares 31st in Games 82-game average: 29G, 21A for 50P 3-year peak (1928-31): 48-game average 25G, 19A for 44P Gordie Drillon: 1936-43, 7 seasons, all quality Totals: 155G (22nd All Time at his departure for WWII), 140A for 295P in 312 Games; 37.4 Point Shares Per Game: Drillon doesn’t qualify, but if we lower the qualifiers so he does (to 150G, 100A and 250P), at his departure to WWII, Drillon was 4th All Time in GPG T-8th All Time in APG 3rd All Time in PPG Era: Of the 40 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1936 and 1943, Drillon is 1st in Goals (by 17) 1st in GPG (nobody actually qualifies) 7th in Assists T-7th in APG (nobody actually qualifies) 2nd in Points 3rd in PPG (nobody actually qualifies) 1st in Offensive Point Shares T-14th in Defensive Point Shares among Forwards 4th in Point Shares 14th in Games 82-game average: 41G, 37A for 78P 3-year peak (1938-41): 48-game average of 24G, 22A for 45P Glenn Hall: NHL: 1952-53, 1954-71; 18 seasons, 13 as a starter, 2 as a 1A, 3 as a backup Totals: 407W (11th All Time, 2nd at his retirement - Sawchuk) 326L (11th All Time, 3rd at his retirement - Sawchuk, Lumley) 164T (2nd All Time - Sawchuk) 84 SO (4th All Time - Brodeur, Sawchuk, Hainsworth - 3rd at his retirement) in 53449 Minutes (8th All Time, 2nd at his retirement - Sawchuk) 906 Games (2nd All Time at his retirement - Sawchuk); 177.6 Point Shares (14th All Time, 6th Goalie, 2nd Goalie at his retirement - Sawchuk); 240 Goals Saved Above Average (8th All Time, barely 2nd All Time at his retirement - Plante) Average: 2.50 GAA (13th All Time at his retirement) .918 SV% (14th All Time, t-4th at his retirement - Esposito, Bower, Plante) Era: Of the 19 goalies to play in at least 205 Games between 1952 and 1971, Hall is 1st in Wins 1st (last) in Losses 1st in Ties Last in Goals Against 3rd in Save Percentage 3rd in GAA 1st in Saves (by 4,855) 1st in Shots (by 5,198) 2nd (barely) in Goals Saved Above Average 1st in Shutouts (by 5) 1st in Minutes (by 5,111) 1st in Games (by 82) Season average: 23-18-9, 5 SO; 9.9 PS; 13.3 GSAA 82-game average: 37-30-15; 8 SO; 35.8 PS; 21.7 GSAA Pierre Pilote: NHL: 1955-1969; 14 seasons, 13 quality Totals: 80G, 418A (4th/3rd D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Gadsby) for 498P (6th/3rd D All Time at his retirement - Gadsby, Harvey), +187 (2nd All Time - Mikita - 1st D, at his retirement)  in 890 Games (13th D All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Pilote was 10th/9th All Time in Defensive Point Shares; Among D, Pilote was 9th/5th All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement (Shore, Gadsby, Clancy, Harvey); At his retirement, Pilote was 19th All Time, 10th D, in Point Shares Per Games: At his retirement, among D, Pilote was 1st All Time in APG (by 0.06) Pilote doesn’t qualify for either the GPG or PPG leaderboards, but if we lower the qualifiers so he qualifies, among D at his retirement, Pilote was: 5th/1st All Time in PPG Era: Of the 11 D to play in at least 738 Games between 1955 and 1969, Pilote is 4th/2nd in Goals 4th/2nd in GPG (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) 1st in Assists (by 84) 1st in APG (by .05) 3rd/1st in Points 3rd/1st in PPG (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) 1st in Plus/Minus (by 31) 2nd/1st in Offensive Point Shares 4th in Defensive Point Shares 1st in Point Shares (by nearly 5) 82-game average: 7G, 39A for 46P, +17; 8.6 PS 3-year peak (1963-66): 70-game average of 8G, 46A for 55P, +38; 9.7 PS Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Johnny Bower: 1953-55, 1956-57, 1958-70, 15 seasons, 9 as a starter, 2 as a 1A, 4 as a backup (or injured) Totals: 250W (9th All Time at his retirement), 192L (12th All Time at his retirement), 90T (7th All Time at his retirement), 37 Shutouts (17th All Time at his retirement) in 31989 Minutes (8th All Time at his retirement) over 552 Games (8th All Time at his retirement); 104.3 Point Shares (8th All Time at his retirement) 191 Goals Saved Above Average (13th All Time, 2nd All Time at his retirement - Glen Hall) Averages: 2.51 GAA (15th All Time at his retirement) .922 SV% (2nd All Time - Hasek - 1st at his retirement) Era: Of the 16 goalies who played in 205 games between 1953 and 1970, Bower is 5th in Wins 5th in Losses 5th in Ties 5th in Goals Against 1st in Save Percentage (ahead by .003) 4th in GAA 5th in Saves 5th in Shots 2nd in GSAA 5th in Shutouts 5th In Minutes 5th in Games Season average: 17-13-6, 2 SO in 37 starts; 12.2 GSAA; 7 PS 82-game average: 37-29-13, 5 SO; 31.46 GSAA; 15.5 PS 3-year peak (1959-62): 70-game average of 28-16-8; 3 SO; 1.95 GAA: 0.920 SV%; 21.2 GSAA; 14.1 PS Bill Quackenbush: 1942-1956; 14 seasons, 13 quality by DPS Totals: 62G, 223A (3rd/4th D All Time at his retirement - Kelly, Harvey), for 285P (8th/9th D All time at his retirement) in 775 Games (5th All Time at his retirement - Clapper, Richard, Bouchard, Schmidt - 2nd/3rd D); 68.7 Point Shares (15th All Time at his retirement, 7th/8th D); At his retirement, Quackenbush was 6th All Time in Defensive Point Shares; At his retirement, Quackenbush was the 14th/18th D in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: Quackenbush doesn’t qualify for the leader-boards but if we reduced the qualifier to 50G, 200A and 250A, at his retirement, among D, he was 4th All Time (last among qualifying players) in APG 13th All Time (last among qualifying players) in PPG Era: Of the 12 D to play in at least 492 Games (six modern seasons) between 1942 and 1956, Quackenbush is 3rd in Goals 3rd/last among qualifying players in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 3rd in Assists 3rd/last among qualifying players in APG (doesn’t actually qualify) 2nd in Points 4th/last among qualifying players in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 4th in Offensive Point Shares 2nd in Defensive Point Shares 2nd in Point Shares 1st in Games 82-game average: 7G, 24A for 30P 3-year peak (1947-50): 60-game average of 6G, 16A for 22P; 5.9 PS Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Alex Delvecchio: 1950-74; 24 seasons, 21 quality Totals: 456G (9th All Time at his retirement), 825A (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe) for 1281P (2nd All Time at his retirement - Howe), +24 in 1550 Games (16th All Time, 2nd at his retirement - Howe); 123.5 Point Shares (7th All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Delvecchio was 7th All Time in Offensive Point Shares At his retirement, among forwards, Delvecchio was 4th/2nd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Mohns, Clapper, Howe) Per Game: At his retirement, Delvecchio was 15th All Time in APG 12th All Time in PPG (2nd last among qualifying players) Era: Among the 10 skaters to play in at least 1230 games (15 modern seasons) between 1950 and 1974, Delvecchio is 4th in Goals t-4th in GPG 2nd in Assists (behind by 97) T-4th in APG 2nd in Points (behind by 357) T-4th in PPG 4th in Plus/Minus (behind 3rd by 127) 2nd in Offensive Point Shares (behind by 72.1) 5th (2nd/3rd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 3rd (2nd Forward) in Point Shares 1st in Games Played (ahead by 91) 82-game average: 24G, 43A for 68P, +1 3-year peak (1967-70): 74-game average of 23G, 52A for 75, +25 Tim Horton: 1949-1974, 24 years, 21 quality Totals: 115G (15th/10th D All Time at his retirement), 403A (7th/5th D All time at his retirement - Orr, Harvey, Gadsby, Pilote) for 518P (7th/4th D All Time at his retirement - Orr, Gadsby, Harvey), +191 (12th All Time, 6th D, at his retirement) in 1445 Games (3rd All Time - - 1st D, at his retirement); 131.7 Point Shares (5th All Time - - 1st D, at his retirement) At his retirement, Horton was 1st All Time in Defensive Point Shares by 17.6 At his retirement, among D, he was 12th/8th in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, among D, Horton was: 9th/6th All Time in APG (11/8 qualifying players) 7th/4th All Time in PPG  (last among qualifying players - Orr, Harvey, Gadsby); Horton doesn’t qualify for GPG but if the qualifier is lowered so he does (100G), he was 20th/13th All Time (last among qualifying players) Era: Of the 14/12 D to play in at least 820 games between 1949 and 1974, Horton is 4th/2nd in Goals 6th/4th in Assists 4th/2nd in Points 1st in Plus Minus Last in GPG (5/3 players, doesn’t actually qualify) 6th/4th in APG (8/6 qualifying players) Last in PPG (5/3 qualifying players) 6th/4th in Offensive Point Shares 1st in Defensive Point Shares (by 17.9) 2nd/1st in Point Shares 1st in Games 82-game average: 7G, 23A for 30P, +11* 3-year peak (1963-66): 70-game average of 9G, 19A for 28P, +16; 7.2 PS Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Andy Bathgate: 1952-71 Totals: 349G (11th All Time at his retirement), 624A (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Delvecchio, Beliveau) for 973P (6th All Time at his retirement), -60* in 1069 Games (19th All Time at his retirement); 91.8 Point Shares (23rd All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Bathgate was 12th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, Bathgate was 7th All Time in APG 12th All Time in PPG Era: Of the 16 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1952 and 1971, Bathgate is 4th in Goals 4th in GPG 4th in Assists 3rd in APG 5th in Points 3rd in PPG 13th in Plus/Minus 5th in Offensive Point Shares Last in Defensive Point Shares 6th in Point Shares 15th (2nd last) in Games 82-game average: 27G, 48A for 75P, -5 3-year peak (1956-59): 70-game average of 33G, 50A for 83P Jacques Plante: 952-65, 1968-72, 18 seasons, 13 as a starter, 3 as a 1A Totals: 437W (9th All Time, 2nd at his second retirement - Sawchuk) 246L (5th All Time at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Worsley, Lumley, Hall) 145T (6th All Time, 3rd at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) 82 SO (5th All Time - Brodeur, Sawchuk, Hainsworth, Hall - 4th at his retirement); 173.7 PS (16th All Time, 7th Goalie, 3rd Goalie at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall); 294.8* Goals Saved Above Average (6th All Time, 1st at his second retirement); 49,513 Minutes (13th All Time, 3rd at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) over 837 Games (14th All Time, 3rd at his second retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) Per Game: 2.38 GAA (18th All Time, 11th at his second retirement) .920 SV% (7th All Time, 2nd at his second retirement - Bower) Era: Of the 22 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1952 and 1973, Plante is 1st in Wins 4th in Losses 3rd in Ties 4th/19th in Goals Against 3rd in Save Percentage 2nd in GAA 3rd in Saves 3rd in Shots Against 1st in Goals Saved Above Average (by 55) 2nd in Shutouts 2nd in Minutes 2nd in Games Season average: 24-14-8, 5 SO; 9.65 PS 82-game average: 43-24-14, 8 SO; 17 PS 3-year peak (1968-71): 76-game average of 42-22-13; 13 SO; 1.93 GAA; .936 SV%; 66.3 GSAA; 18.8 GPS Marcel Pronovost: 1950-70, 20 seasons, 18 quality Totals: 88G (t-16th/21st D All Time at his retirement), 257A (7th/10th D All Time at his retirement) 345P, (7th/11th D All Time at his retirement), +39* (25th D All Time at his retirement) in 1206 Games (7th All Time, 4th D -  Gadsby, Stanley, Howell - at his retirement); 101.5 Point Shares (11th All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Pronovost was 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares (Horton, Harvey) and was the 17th/21st D All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: Pronovost doesn’t qualify for any PG leader-boards but if we lower the qualifiers enough (to 80G, 250A and 300P), at his retirement among D, Pronovost was t-24th/t-29th (last among qualifying players) All Time in GPG 8th/11th (last among qualifying players) All Time in APG 9th/13th (2nd last among qualifying players) All Time in PPG Era: Of the 10 (12) D who played in at least 820 games between 1950 and 1970, Pronovost is 4th (6th) in Goals 6th (8th) in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 7th (9th) in Assists 10th (12th, last) in APG (doesn’t actually qualify) 7th (9th) in Points 7th (9th) in PPG (doesn’t qualify) 7th (8th) in Plus/Minus 6th (8th) in Offensive Point Shares 2nd in Defensive Point Shares 3rd (4th) in Point Shares 2nd in Games 82-game average: 6G, 17A for 24P, +3* 3-year peak (1952-55): 70-game average of 8G, 20A for 28P Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Harry Howell: 1952-1973, 21 seasons, all quality Totals: 94G (20th* D All Time at his departure to the WHA), 324A (9th* D All Time at his departure) for 418P (10th* D All Time at his departure), -152* (2nd? Worst All Time at his departure) in 1411 Games (3rd All Time at his departure, 1st D); 87.6 Point Shares (13th* D All Time at his retirement); At his departure to the WHA, Howell was 8th All Time in Defensive Point Shares At his departure, Howell was the 21st D All Time in Offensive Point Shares (Kelly, Clapper and Mohs are all ahead) Per Game: Howell doesn’t qualify for either the GPG or PPG leader-board but if the qualifier is lowered so he does, at his departure to the WHA, among D Howell was 23rd All Time (last among qualifying D) in GPG 11th All Time (last among qualifying D) in APG 11th All Time (last among qualifying D) in PPG Era: Of the 12 to play in at least 820 games (10 modern seasons) between 1952 and 1973, Howell is 4th in Goals T-7th in GPG 6th in Assists T-8th in APG 6th in Points 7th in PPG 2nd last in Plus/Minus 7th in Offensive Point Shares 4th in Defensive Point Shares 7th in Point Shares 1st in Games 82-game average: 6G, 19A for 25P, -9 3-year peak (1965-68): 70-game average of 7G, 26A for 34P, -2 Bobby Orr: 1966-79; 12 seasons, 9 quality Totals: 270G (7th D All Time, 1st at his retirement - Orr was ahead by over 100 goals),  645A (13th D All Time, 1st at his retirement - ahead by nearly 200 assists) for  915P (11th D All Time, 1st at his retirement - ahead by 299 points),  +582 (2nd All Time - Robinson - 1st All Time at his retirement, ahead by nearly 100) in  657 games;  152 PS (3rd All Time - Howe,  - 1st D, at his retirement); Orr is the 9th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares (11th skater All Time at his retirement, 1st D - ahead of Kelly by over 13, ahead of Clapper by over 23, ahead of Park by nearly 40) At his retirement, Orr was 14th All Time in Defensive Point Shares  Per Game: Orr is 3rd All Time in APG - Gretzky, Lemieux (1st D by .17) 5th All Time in PPG - Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, McDavid (1st D by .3) Among D Orr, is  1st All Time in GPG (by .12) Era: Of the 78 skaters to play in at least 656 games (8 modern seasons) between 1966 and 1979, Orr is T-17th in Goals (1st D by over 100) T-8th in GPG (only D to qualify for leaderboard) 2nd in Assists (1st D by roughly 180) 1st in APG (by .22) 4th in Points (1st D by almost 300) T-1st in PPG 1st in Plus/Minus (by nearly 100) 2nd in OPS (1st D by nearly double) 2nd in DPS 1st in Point Shares 82-game average: 34G, 80A for 114P, +75 3-year peak (1969-72): 82-game average of 38G, 96A for 134P, +123; 22.2 PS Henri Richard: 1955-75, 20 seasons, 19 quality Totals: 358G (15th All Time at his retirement), 688A (7th All Time at his retirement) for 1046P (10th All Time at his retirement), +243* (12th All Time at his retirement) in 1258 Games (11th All Time at his retirement); 98.7 Point Shares (22nd All Time at his retirement); At his retirement, Richard was 18th in Offensive Point Shares Among Forwards, Richard was 6th All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, Richard was T-13th All Time in APG T-24th All Time in PPG Era: Of the 26 skaters to play in at least 984 games (12 modern seasons) between 1955 and 1975, Richard is 11th in Goals 11th in GPG 6th in Assists 5th in APG 9th in Points 9th in PPG 4th in Plus/Minus 9th in Offensive Point Shares 5th (1st/2nd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 10th in Point Shares 4th in Games 82-game average: 23G, 45A for 68P, +16* 3-year peak (1957-60): 70-game average of 28G, 44A for 71P, +7* Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Harry Lumley: 1943-60, 16 seasons, 13 quality Totals: 330W (1st All Time at his retirement) 239L (10th All Time, 1st at his retirement) 142T (7th All Time, 1st at his retirement); 71 Shutouts (12th All Time; t-5th at his retirement) 133.6 Point Shares (19th Goalie All Time, 1st at his retirement); -22.3 Goals Saved Above Average (only 17% of his Games - 2nd last of only 7 goalies at his retirement) in 48,038 Minutes (1st All Time at his retirement by over 9500) 803 Games (1st All Time at his retirement by 161) Per Game: .905 SV% (only 17% of his Games - 2nd last of only 7 goalies at his retirement) 2.74 GAA (18th All Time at his retirement) Era: Of the 12 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1943 and 1960, Lumley is 1st in Wins 1st (Last) in Losses (by 120!!!) 1st in Ties Last in Goals Against 6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in Save Percentage (only 136 Games) 7th in GAA 6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in Saves (only 136 Games) 6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in Shots Against (only 136 Games) 6th (2nd last among qualifying goalies) in GSAA (only 136 Games) 1st in Minutes 1st in Point Shares 1st in Games (by 161) 82-game average: 34-34-15; 7 SO Season average: 21-21-9; 4 SO 3-year peak (1952-55): 70-game average of 28-26-16; 10 SO; 2.04 GAA; 14.7 GPS Lynn Patrick: 1934-43 1945-46; 10 seasons, 8 quality (by modern standards of PPG) Totals: 145G, 191A (t-20th All Time at his retirement) for 336P (t-22nd All Time at his retirement) in 455 Games; 34.5 PS Per Game: Patrick doesn’t qualify for any PG leader-board but if we lower the qualifiers so he does, at his retirement Patrick was T-11th All Time in APG T-16th All Time in PPG Era: Of the 26 skaters to play in at least 328 Games between 1934 and 1943, Patrick is 4th in Goals T-4th in GPG (nobody actually qualifies) 3rd in Assists T-5th in APG (nobody actually qualifies) 4th in Points 5th in PPG (nobody actually qualifies) 4th in Offensive Point Shares 14th (3rd Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 10th in Point Shares 4th in Games 82-game average: 26G, 34A for 61P 3-year peak (1940-43): 48-game average of 25G, 28A for 53P Gump Worsley: 1952-53, 1954-74, 21 seasons, 12 as a starter, 1 as a 1A, 8 as a backup or injured Totals: 333W (4th All Time at his retirement - Sawchuk, Plante, Hall) 348L (5th All Time - Brodeur, Luongo, Joseph, Meloche - 1st, i.e. last, at his retirement) 149T (5th All Time - Sawchuk, Hall, Brodeur, Esposito - 3rd at his retirement) 43 Shutouts (16th All Time at his retirement), 131.2 Point Shares (21st All Time, 5th at his retirement - Sawchuk, Hall, Plante, Lumley), 197.8* (all but 137 games) Goals Saved Above Average (12th All Time, 4th at his retirement - Plante, Hall, Esposito) in 50,157 Minutes (12th All Time, 3rd at his retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) over 860 Games (3rd All Time at his retirement - Sawchuk, Hall) Averages: 2.87 GAA .914* (all but 123 games) Save Percentage (6th All Time at his retirement) Era: Of the 25 goalies to play in at least 205 games between 1952 and 1974, Worsley is 4th in Wins 1st (last) in Losses 2nd in Ties 1st (last) in Goals Against 7th in Save Percentage 12th in GAA 2nd in Saves 2nd in Shots 4th in GSAA 6th in Shutouts 2nd in Minutes 4th in in Point Shares 2nd in Games Played Season average: 16-17-7, 2 SO in 41 games 82-game average: 32-33-14, 4 SO 3-year peak (1960-63): 24-34-10, 2 SO; 3.11 GAA, .913 SV%, 9.9 PS; 14.7 GSAA Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Johnny Bucyk: 1955-78; 23 seasons, 20 quality Totals: 556G (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Esposito, Hull), 813A (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Mikita, Delvecchio) for 1369P (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Esposito, Mikita), -7; 122.4 Point Shares (12th All Time at his retirement); 1540 Games (17th All Time, 3rd at his retirement - Howe, Delvecchio) At his retirement, Bucyk was 7th All Time in Offensive Point Shares; Among forwards, Bucy was 19th All Time in Defensive Point Shares at retirement Per Game: Not in the Top 25 Era: Of the 12 skaters to play in at least 1148 games (14 modern seasons) between 1955 and 1978, Bucyk is 1st in Goals 3rd in GPG (10 qualifying players) 2nd in Assists 4th in APG (10 qualifying players) 2nd in Points 3rd in PPG (6 qualifying players) 8th in Plus/Minus 2nd in Offensive Point Shares 10th (3rd last) in Defensive Point Shares 2nd in Point Shares 82-game average: 30G, 43A for 73P, 0 3-year peak (1970-73): 78-game average of 41G, 56A for 97P, +23 Playoffs: 41G (15th All Time at his retirement), 62A (12th All Time at his retirement) for 103P (14th All Time at his retirement), +29 (8th All Time at his retirement) in 124 Games (20th All Time at his retirement) Per Game: At his retirement, Bucyk was 18th All Time in playoff GPG T-25th All Time in playoff PPG Era: Of the 73 skaters to play in at least 82 playoff games between 1955 and 1978, Bucyk is 10th in playoff Goals 15th in playoff GPG 8th in playoff Assists T-14th in playoff APG 9th in playoff Points T-15th in playoff PPG 8th in playoff Plus/Minus  11th in playoff Games Frank Mahovlich: 1956-74, 18 seasons, 17 quality Totals: 533G (4th All Time at his departure to the WHA - Howe, Hull, Richard), 570A (10th All Time at his departure) for 1103P (8th All Time at his departure), +266 (4th All Time at his departure - Orr, Esposito, Mikita) in 1181 Games (17th All Time at his departure); 121.7 PS (10th All Time at his departure); At his departure, Mahovlich was 6th All Time in Offensive Point Shares; Among Forwards, Mahovlich was 8th* All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per game: At his retirement, Mahovlich was T-14th All Time in GPG (4th LW) 23rd All Time in APG (2nd LW) T-12th All Time in PPG (3rd LW) Era: Of the 12 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1956 and 1974, Mahovlich is 1st in Goals (by 61 Goals) 1st in GPG (by 0.08) 5th in Assists 5th in APG 3rd in Points T-1st in PPG 1st in Plus/Minus 1st in Offensive Point Shares 4th in Defensive Point Shares (1st Forward) 1st in Point Shares 5th in Games 82-game average: 37G, 39A for 76P, +18 3-year peak (1971-74): 78-game average of 39G, 55A for 93P, +35 Playoffs: 51G (7th All Time at his retirement), 67A (t-6th All Time at his retirement) for 118P (t-7th All Time at his retirement), -25 in 137 Games (t-6th All Time at his retirement); Per Game: At his retirement, Mahovlich was T-17th All Time in playoff GPG T-16th All Time in playoff APG T-12th All Time in playoff PPG Era: Of the 42 skaters to play in at least 82 playoff games between 1956 and 1974, Mahovlich is 4th in playoff Goals T-9th in playoff GPG T-4th in playoff Assists T-8th in playoff APG 4th in playoff Points 8th in playoff PPG Last in Plus/Minus 3rd in playoff Games Allan Stanley: 1948-69, 21 seasons, 20 quality? Totals: 100G (9th/11th D All Time at his retirement), 333A (4th/5th D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Gadsby, Pilote, Kelly) for  433P (5th/7th D All Time at his retirement - Gadsby, Harvey, Kelly Pilote, Clapper, Horton), +117* (14th All Time - 6th D at his retirement) in  1244 Games (4th All Time at his retirement - Howe, Kelly, Gadsby); 103.6 Point Shares (9th All Time at his retirement, 4th/5th D - Harvey, Kelly, Horton, Clancy); Stanley is 25th All Time in Defensive Point Shares (At his retirement, he  was 4th All Time in Defensive Point Shares - Harvey, Pronovost, Horton) At his retirement, Stanley was the 11th D All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: Stanley didn’t score enough to make either the GPG or PPG leader-boards but we lowered the requirements (100G, 400P). At his retirement, among D, Stanley was  11th (last among all qualifying players) All Time in GPG 6th (last among all qualifying players) All Time in APG 7th (last among all qualifying players) All Time in PPG Era: Of the 12 D* to play in at least 820 games (10 modern seasons) between 1948 and 1969, Stanley is 4th (3rd) in Goals 6th (5th) in GPG 4th in Assists 6th (5th) in APG 6th (5th) in Points 6th (5th) in PPG 4th in Plus/Minus 6th (5th) in Offensive Shares 4th in Defensive Point Shares 4th (3rd) in Point Shares 1st in Games 82-game average: 7G, 22A for 29P, +8 (1/2 of his career so this isn’t accurate) 3-year peak (1959-62): 70-game average of 10G, 27A for 37P, +18 Playoffs: 7G (t-17th/15th D All Time at his retirement), 36A (3rd D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Pilote) for 43P (5th/4th D All Time at his retirement - Harvey, Pilote, Kelly, Tremblay), +2* (t-24th D All Time at his retirement) in 109 Games (6th D All Time at his retirement) Per Game: Stanley doesn’t qualify for playoff GPG or PPG so we lowered the qualifiers (5G, 40P). At his retirement, among D, Stanley was T-4th (last among qualifying players) in playoff APG - Pilote, Harvey, Tremblay 6th (last among qualifying players) in playoff PPG Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
E81 Episode 81: WHA Stars

E81 Episode 81: WHA Stars

2022-05-0601:18:43

Episode Notes Real Cloutier: 1979-85, 6 seasons, 4 quality Totals: 146G, 198A for 344P, +16 in 318 Games Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 318 Games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is 60th in Goals 31st in GPG (doesn’t qualify) 75th in Assists 34th in APG (doesn’t qualify) 65th in Points 24th in PPG (doesn’t qualify) T-128th in Plus/Minus t-50th in Offensive Point Shares Not in the Top 200 in Defensive Point Shares 93rd in Point Shares 82-game average: 38G, 51A for 89P, +4 3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average of 43G, 55A for 98P, +11 Playoffs: 7G, 5A for  12P, -22 in 25 Games Era: Of the hundreds of skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1985, Cloutier is T-110th in playoff Goals T-74th in playoff GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) Not in the Top 200 in playoff Assists T-185th in playoff APG (doesn’t actually qualify) T-169th in playoff Points T-129th in playoff PPG (doesn’t actually qualify) Not in the Top 200 in playoff Plus/Minus Not in the Top 200 in playoff Games Marc Tardif: 1969-73, 1979-83; 8 seasons, 7 quality Totals: 194G, 207A for 401P +23 in 517 Games; 31.7 Point Shares Era: Of the 195 skaters to play in at least 164 games (2 modern seasons) between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is 49th in Goals 35th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 94th in Assists 82nd in APG (doesn’t actually qualify) 71st in Points 55th in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 43rd in Plus/Minus 60th in Offensive Point Shares 105th (41st Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 87th in Point Shares 105th in Games Of the 180 skaters to play in at least 246 games (3 modern seasons) between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is 39th in Goals 31st in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 81st in Assists 61st in APG (doesn’t actually qualify) 59th in Points 43rd in PPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 150th in Plus/Minus 50th in Offensive Point Shares 175th (114th Forward - 4th last) in Defensive Point Shares 99th in Point Shares 125th in Games 82-game average: 31G, 33A for 64P, +4 3-year peak (1979-82): 80-game average: 39G, 40A for 79P, -14 Playoffs: 13G, 15A for 28P, -10 in 62 Games Era: Of the 37 skaters to play in at least 40 playoff games between 1969 and 1973, Tardif is 18th in playoff Goals 16th in GPG (doesn’t actually qualify) 30th in Assists 29th (2nd last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in APG 23rd in Points 22nd (last among qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) in PPG 23rd in Plus/Minus Last in Games Of the 193 skaters to play in at least 20 playoff games between 1979 and 1983, Tardif is 143rd in Goals 138th in Assists 148th in Points 181st in Plus/Minus 155th in Games JC Tremblay: 1959-72, 13 seasons, 11 quality Totals: 57G, 306A (11th/8th D All Time at his departure to the WHA) 363P (12th/8th D All Time at his departure), +244 (5th All Time, 2nd D, at his departure - Orr, Esposito, Hull, Mikita) in 796 Games (17th D All Time at his departure); 81.4 PS (16th/13th D All Time at his departure); At his departure, Tremblay was 12th/11th All Time in Defensive Point Shares At his departure, Tremblay was 19th/15th All Time among D in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his departure to the WHA, Tremblay was, among D, 6th All Time in APG Tremblay doesn’t meet either the GPG or the PPG requirement, but if we lower them to 50G (-150G) and 350P (-150P) respectively, Tremblay was, among D: 8th/4th All Time in PPG - Kelly, Schmidt (?!?!?!), Gadsby?, Clapper, Pilote, Mohns, Harvey Era: Of the 11 D (including Mohns) to play at least 656 games (8 modern seasons) between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is 7th/6th in Goals 9th/8th (last/2nd last) in GPG (9 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) 3rd/2nd in Assists 2nd in APG (3 qualifying players) 3rd/2nd in Points 3rd/2nd in PPG (4 qualifying players, doesn’t actually qualify) 1st in Plus/Minus (by +57) 4th/3rd in Offensive Point Shares 2nd in Defensive Point Shares 2nd in Point Shares 6th in Games 82-game average: 6G, 31A for 38P, +25; 8.4 PS 3-year peak (1969-72): 78-game average of 7G, 44A for 50P, +27; 9.4 PS Playoffs: 14G (5th/2nd D All Time at his departure to the WHA - Kelly, Schmidt?!?!, Orr, Mohns) 51A (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Harvey, Kelly, Pilote) for 65P (4th/3rd D All Time at his departure - Kelly, Harvey, Orr) +37 (3rd All Time at his departure -  Orr, Dallas Smith) 108 Games (9th D All Time at his departure) Per Game: Among D at his departure, Tremblay was 3rd All Time in playoff APG (Orr, Pilote - 8 qualifying players) 3rd All Time in playoff PPG (Orr, Pilote - 5 qualifying players); Tremblay doesn’t qualify for the GPG leaderboards but if the qualifier is lowered to 10G, Tremblay was T-9th All Time in GPG (12 qualifying players) Era: Of the 31 D to play in 41 playoff games between 1959 and 1972, Tremblay is 3rd/2nd in playoff Goals t-4th/3rd in playoff GPG (6 players, only Orr actually qualifies) T-1st in playoff Assists 4th/3rd in playoff APG (5 qualifying players) 2nd in playoff Points (behind by 1) 4th/3rd in playoff PPG (4 qualifying players) 3rd in playoff Plus/Minus 2nd in playoff Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Yvan Cournoyer: 1963-79, 16 seasons, 12 quality Totals: 428G (12th All Time at his retirement), 435A for 863P (17th All Time at his retirement) +254 (18th All Time at his retirement) in 968 Games; Cournoyer was 22nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares at his retirement Per Game: At his retirement, Cournoyer was T-24th All Time in GPG Era: Of the 22 skaters to play at least 902 games between 1963 and 1979, Cournoyer is 4th in Goals 2nd in GPG (behind by .14) 7th in Assists 6th in APG 6th in Points 6th in PPG 2nd in Plus/Minus 6th in Offensive Point Shares 10th in Defensive Point Shares (5th Forward) 6th in Point Shares 82-game average: 36G, 37A for 73P, +22 3-year peak (1970-73): 78-game average of 47G, 42A for 89P, +35 Playoffs: 64G (4th All Time), 63A (16th All Time) for 127P (8th All Time), +37 (t-9th All Time) in 147 Games (8th All Time) Per Game: T-6th All Time in playoff GPG at his retirement T-25th All Time in playoff APG at his retirement 11th All Time in playoff PPG at his retirement Era: Of the 54 skaters who played in at least 82 playoff games between 1963 and 1979, Cournoyer is 1st in playoff Goals 4th in playoff GPG 7th in playoff Assists T-16th in playoff APG 3rd in playoff Points 9th in playoff PPG 8th in playoff Plus/Minus 2nd  in playoff Games Rod Gilbert: 1960-78; 18 seasons, 13 quality Totals: 406G (13th All Time at his retirement), 615A (12th All Time at his retirement) for  1021P (12th All Time at his retirement), +38 in 1065 Games; 94.9 PS; At his retirement, Gilbert was 18th All Time in Offensive Point Shares Per Game: At his retirement, Gilbert was T-17th All Time in APG T-18th All Time in PPG Era: Of the sixteen skaters to play in at least 984 games between 1960 and 1978, Gilbert is 5th in Goals 5th in GPG 5th in Assists 4th in APG 5th in Points 4th in PPG 10th in Plus/Minus 6th in Offensive Point Shares 11th (7th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 6th in Point Shares 9th in Games 82-game average: 31G, 48A for 79P, +3 3-year peak (1973-76): 80-game average of 39G, 55A for 94P, +1 Playoffs: 34G (t-18th All Time at his retirement), 33A for  67P, +8 in  79 Games Per Game: At his retirement, Gilbert was T-14th All Time in playoff GPG 22nd All Time in playoff PPG Era: Of the 170 skaters to play in at least 41 playoff games between 1960 and 1978, Gilbert is 12th in playoff Goals T-10th in playoff GPG 40th in playoff Assists 35th in playoff APG 23rd in playoff Points 19th in playoff PPG 67th in playoff Plus/Minus 59th in playoff Games Norm Ullman: 1955-75; 20 seasons, 18 quality Totals: 490G (8th All Time at his departure to the WHA), 739A (4th All Time at his departure - Howe, Delvecchio, Mikita) for 1229P (4th All Time at his departure - Howe, Delvecchio, Mikita), +7 in 1410 Games (5th All Time at his departure - Howe, Delvecchio, Horton, Howell); 118.4 PS (13th All Time at his departure); At his departure to the WHA, Ullman was 9th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and the 8th Forward All Time in Defensive Point Shares Per Game: At his departure to the WHA, Ullman was T-18th All Time in APG 11th All Time in PPG Era: Of the 15 skaters to play in at least 1066 games (13 modern seasons) between 1955 and 1975, Ullman is 4th in Goals 5th in GPG 2nd in Assists 6th in APG 2nd in Points T-5th in PPG 8th in Plus Minus 4th in Offensive Point Shares 7th (4th or 4th Forward) in Defensive Point Shares 4th in Point Shares 1st in Games 82-game average: 29G, 43A for 71P, 0 3-year peak (1964-67): 70-game average of 33G, 43A for 76P, +3 Playoffs: 30G (t-21st All Time at his departure to the WHA), 53A (t-16th All Time at his departure) for 83P (18th All Time at his departure) -22 in 106 Games Per Game: At his departure to the WHA, Ullman was 22nd All Time in playoff PPG Era: Of the 51 skaters to play in at least 82 playoff games between 1955 and 1975, Ullman is T-15th in playoff Goals T-17th in playoff GPG T-10th in playoff Assists 10th in playoff APG 12th in playoff Points 13th in playoff PPG 50th (2nd last) in playoff Plus/Minus 20th in playoff Games Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
Episode Notes Who is the Greatest Left Wing of All Time? Well, it's Bobby Hull or it's Alex Ovechkin. So who did we choose? And how else round out our Top 10 LWs of All Time? Find out more at https://the-back-check.pinecast.co
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