The Follower Podcast

Summary In this conversation, Matthew Lewis and Liam Burns explore the intersection of technology, particularly AI, and Christian faith. They discuss the implications of living in a technological age, the challenges of maintaining human identity, and -the importance of community and connection in a digital world. The conversation emphasizes the need for discernment in technology use, the dangers of quick fixes, and the value of embracing limitations as part of the human experience. Ultimately, they encourage a long-term perspective on spiritual formation and the importance of hope in navigating these complex issues.   Takeaways - We must navigate technology with hope and discernment. - Technology has always been a part of human existence. - The temptation of quick fixes can lead to disconnection. - AI can enhance our capabilities but may also diminish our skills. - Convenience often comes at the cost of meaningful relationships. - Christian identity is rooted in being gifted, broken, and limited. - Community and embodied relationships are essential for growth. - Technology can reduce us to consumers rather than creators. - The long game of Christian formation requires patience and commitment. - Embracing our limitations can lead to a more fulfilling life.   Timestamps 00:00 Navigating the Technological Landscape 03:04 The Role of Technology in Human Identity 05:51 The Temptation of Quick Fixes 08:53 Understanding AI and Its Implications 11:55 The Cost of Convenience 14:59 The Dangers of Disconnection 17:51 Embracing Our Limitations 20:53 The Christian Response to Technology 24:03 The Future of Humanity in a Technological Age 26:40 The Call to Community and Presence 29:48 Long-Term Perspectives on Technology 32:41 Conclusion: Who Are We Becoming?  

Summary In this conversation, Matthew Lewis and Liam Burns explore the challenges and opportunities facing the church today, particularly in relation to Gen Z. They discuss the importance of avoiding idolatry, the need for intergenerational relationships, and the significance of creating spaces for authentic discipleship and character formation. The conversation emphasizes the importance of serving young people rather than using them for the church's success, and the necessity of understanding the historical context of youth culture in shaping current ministry practices.   Key Topics The church must be a greenhouse for Christ-likeness. Idolatry is a significant challenge for Christians today. We need to resist leveraging young people for success. Your gifts aren't going anywhere; take your time. Formation into Christlikeness takes an ecosystem of inputs. We must serve this generation, not use them. The dignity of being God's people is essential. Create contexts that build resilience. Intergenerational relationships are vital for growth. The church's role is to facilitate authentic discipleship.   Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Recap of Previous Episode 02:51 Idolatry and the Temptation of Control 05:56 The Dignity of Being God's People 08:51 Gen Z and the Search for the Real 12:00 Formation and Character Development in Ministry 14:40 The Dangers of Youth Culture in the Church 17:53 Intergenerational Relationships and Their Importance 29:13 Reimagining Human Relationships 29:50 The Hubris of Youth in Ministry 31:45 The Role of Older Generations 35:55 Historical Perspectives on Authenticity 38:42 The Shift in Meaning-Making 42:49 Creating Greenhouses for Christ-likeness 44:46 The Ecosystem of Spiritual Formation 50:49 Advice for Young and Older Generations

In this conversation, we explore the complex relationship between faith and nationalism, particularly in the context of Christian nationalism.  Matthew Lewis and Liam Byrnes discuss the historical shifts in global politics, the transition from optimism to cynicism, and the implications of these changes for Christians today. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of understanding Jesus' example in navigating political power and influence, ultimately calling for a faith that transcends political systems and seeks a deeper moral life. Key Topics: Christian nationalism raises important questions about faith and identity. Historical context is crucial to understanding current political dynamics. The shift from optimism to cynicism affects how we view collaboration. Faith should inform our political engagement, not the other way around. Jesus' example challenges conventional notions of power and influence. Theological beliefs shape our moral lives and actions in the world. Christians are called to be a meaningful alternative to the world. Hope should not be placed in political systems but in the return of Christ. The church must embody the values of the kingdom of God. Time Stamps: 00:00- Introduction to Christian Nationalism 02:50- Historical Context of Nationalism and Unity 05:45- The Shift from Optimism to Cynicism 08:57- The Role of Faith in Politics 11:40- Theological Foundations and Moral Life 14:56- Influence of Christianity on Politics 17:49- The Example of Jesus and Political Power 20:43- Hope Beyond Political Systems 23:45- Conclusion and Reflection on Jesus' Model

In this episode, we explore how Western Christianity has shifted from a belief system deeply embedded in societal and political structures to one that is increasingly privatised and fragile. Drawing on the insights of philosopher Charles Taylor, we examine the historical revolutions that have shaped our current secular landscape and how these changes impact Christian witness today. Join Matthew Lewis and Liam Byrnes as they walk carefully through these profound cultural transformations, seeking biblical truth in an age of confusion. Key Topics: The historical development of secularism from the Reformation to today How the church’s relationship with power and influence has shifted over centuries The impact of individualism, privatisation, and the marketplace of ideas on faith The decline of a shared public faith and the rise of faith as a personal choice The role of fear, pain, and cultural shifts in shaping modern belief environments How Christians can embody winsome love and faithful presence amidst secular fragility Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: Walking the line between instruction and companionship 01:20 - Charles Taylor’s question: How did belief shift from almost impossible not to believe, to almost impossible to believe? 02:15 - The environment of Christendom 500 years ago: churches in every village, societal structures centered on God 03:30 - The Protestant Reformation and the fracturing of Christendom 04:50 - Bloodshed and infighting: the birth of religious tolerance and the secular sphere 06:00 - The secular experiment: creating spaces for diverse beliefs without conflict 07:10 - The emergence of secularism as a response to religious division and persecution 08:15 - The three revolutions of secularism: societal, cultural, and individualized belief 09:20 - Secular revolution one: the Reformation as a move towards religious pluralism 10:05 - The separation of church and state: from religious unity to a marketplace of ideas 11:00 - The influence of Christian ethics on education, healthcare, and social good 12:00 - The smoke of Christendom versus the fire of Christian living 13:00 - The margin of influence: how privilege shaped early Christian community 14:30 - The shift to Christian persecution: early Christians as resilient communities of belief 15:45 - The second secular revolution: the decline of religious power and authority 16:15 - Modern fragility: belief becomes plastic and contestable 17:00 - The influence of naturalism and secular humanism in shaping worldview 18:10 - How Western Christianity drifted from its rooted, communal, and political imagination 19:10 - The rise of individualism and the privatization of faith—"me and my Jesus" 20:00 - Moving from heroic martyrdom to cultural accommodation 21:00 - The blurred line: Faith as a personal choice, not a communal commitment 22:00 - The challenge of belief under pluralism and skepticism 23:00 - How fear, pain, and cultural shifts threaten the resilience of faith 24:00 - Opportunities for Christian witness: embodying love, linking deeds to the kingdom 25:00 - The importance of humble, winsome engagement over defensiveness or aggression 26:30 - The necessity of courage rooted in dependence on the Spirit of Jesus 27:45 - The biblical call: Living as signs of God's coming kingdom in a fragile world 29:00 - The church’s power: not in dominance but in sacrificial love and humble presence 30:30 - Closing: Hope for a faithful witness amid secular fragility. Resources and Links: A Secular Age by Charles Taylor

In this final conversation of the second season of One Heart, Matthew and David Thomas discuss the Asbury outpouring of 2023 and the lesser known story of reconciliation that proceeded it. David shares his personal journey of faith, emphasising the need for resilience and humility. He also explores the significance of community and authentic relationships in experiencing God's presence, and offers insights for leaders in ministry in times of awakening.  To find out more about 24-7 Prayer South Africa or get the One Heart prayer guide you can visit their website here. To find out more about the Asbury outpouring and the stories of reconciliation around it you can visit The Awakening Library here. TAKE AWAYS The journey of seeking Jesus requires resilience and humility. Authentic community is essential for experiencing God's presence. Reconciliation plays a crucial role in revival and awakening. Jesus is the reward of our lives and the source of our identity. Awakening is not about celebrity but about the presence of Jesus. KEY WORDS Asbury, revival, Jesus, reconciliation, awakening, spiritual hunger, community, leadership, prayer, presence of God  

In this episode, Khumo Ntlha shares her profound journey of faith, emphasizing the importance of reconciliation, the role of suffering in deepening one's relationship with God, and the integration of faith in social justice work. She reflects on her personal experiences, including the challenges faced in her family and community, and how these have shaped her commitment to being a voice for the marginalized, particularly women in the energy sector. Khumo's insights highlight the necessity of obedience to God's call in the pursuit of reconciliation and the collective responsibility of Christians to bring hope and healing to a broken world. To get your copy of the On Heart Prayer guide visit 24-7 Prayer SA here. TAKEAWAYS Suffering can deepen faith and bring families closer to God. Reconciliation is a vital aspect of Christian life and not optional. The importance of integrating faith with work in social justice. Faith and work can coexist harmoniously in the pursuit of justice. Obedience to God's call is essential for true reconciliation. Christians are called to be light and salt in a world filled with darkness. KEYWORDS faith, reconciliation, suffering, personal journey, social justice, women empowerment, Christian activism, healing, hope, obedience  

In this episode of the Follower Podcast, Thirza Kunnen shares her journey of finding God in rest and grace, her research on reconciliation in South Africa, and the powerful stories of pain and hope she encountered. The conversation explores the significance of prayer, repentance, and the healing power of community, emphasizing the importance of understanding trauma and the role of prayer as a unifying force in diverse communities. This series of conversations is a collaboration with 24-7 Prayer South Africa as part of the One Heart prayer initiative for reconciliation. You can get your prayer guide and join us in the journey by visiting their website here. TAKEAWAYS Prayer doesn't prepare us for the great work. Prayer is the great work. Forgiveness is a key in healing. Repentance is not a finish line, but a starting place. KEYWORDS rest, grace, South Africa, reconciliation, prayer, trauma, healing, stories, anthropology, community

In this conversation, Reverend Joseph Nyamutera shares his experiences of cultural identity, belonging, and the challenges of navigating relationships in a global context. He reflects on his journey of faith, the impact of personal wounds on conflict, and the lessons learned from the Rwandan genocide. The discussion emphasizes the importance of healing, reconciliation, and vulnerability in leadership, ultimately calling all believers to engage in the ministry of reconciliation. To get a copy of the One Heart prayer guide and join in the 50 days of prayer for reconciliation go to the 24-7 Prayer South Africa website. Takeaways Cultural identity shapes our understanding of belonging. Navigating relationships often involves managing tensions. Conflict can teach us valuable lessons about humanity.. Personal wounds can influence our perspectives in conflict. Survival in crisis can deepen our faith and understanding of God. Vulnerability in leadership fosters genuine connections. All believers are called to the ministry of reconciliation. Keywords Cultural Identity, Belonging, Jesus, Relationships, Conflict, Rwandan Genocide, Healing, Reconciliation, Vulnerability

In this conversation, Matthew and Phil explore the themes of reconciliation, discipleship, and the role of the church in fostering a community that embodies the teachings of Jesus. They discuss the importance of abiding in Christ, the ongoing journey of reconciliation, and the need for systemic change within the church and society. The dialogue emphasises that true unity goes beyond mere coexistence and calls for a deeper, shared life among believers. Ultimately, they highlight the revolutionary nature of the church as a transformative presence in the world. To get Phil's books you can FOLLOW THIS LINK. TAKEAWAYS Reconciliation is rooted in a deep relationship with Jesus. The ministry of reconciliation is an ongoing journey. Activism without abiding can lead to more chaos. Community is where reconciliation practices are learned. The church's role is to be a systemic change agent. True unity is about shared life, not just being in the same room. The church is a revolutionary presence in society. The ministry of reconciliation has no expiration date. KEYWORDS reconciliation, discipleship, community, abiding, ministry, church, activism, unity, systemic change, Jesus  

In this conversation, Matthew speaks with with Peter Tarantal and Alexander Venter on the themes of personal faith experiences, the importance of unity within the church, and the challenges of reconciliation in a divided society. They reflect on their personal journeys with Jesus, the significance of community, and the need for the church to model unity as a witness to the world. The discussion emphasizes the ongoing struggle for reconciliation in South Africa and the role of the youth in driving change. Take Aways Intentional time with Jesus is foundational for faith. Experiencing Jesus in community enriches our faith. Unity in the church is crucial for its credibility. The church's disunity undermines its witness to the world. Reconciliation requires humility and crossing cultural barriers. The youth have the power to drive change in society. Working across cultural lines can be challenging but necessary. The church must resist cultural pressures that promote division. Diversity in the church reveals a fuller picture of Jesus. Love and dignity for others are essential in our interactions. Living the way of Jesus means serving others selflessly. The youth have a crucial role in leading reconciliation efforts. The book that Alexander mentioned in the podcast as well as others he has written can be found on his website. Keywords Jesus, unity, reconciliation, church, South Africa, community, diversity, faith, healing, love, reconciliation, unity, cultural barriers, stories, church, diversity, kingdom of heaven, honest conversations, youth, Jesus

In this episode of the Follower podcast, Matthew sits down with Nkosinathi Mbuyazi, and A.C. Lee to discuss The One Heart Prayer Journey, emphasizing the importance of unity, reconciliation, and prayer in the church.   They explore Jesus' high priestly prayer, the urgency of prayer in today's divided world, and the introduction of a new prayer guide designed to facilitate personal and communal reconciliation.   The conversation also highlights the power of worship and the significance of humility in fostering unity among believers.   This episode also features an original song written by A.C. and other musicians in Nashville.   Take aways Jesus prayed for unity among believers. Reconciliation is central to the biblical narrative. The church is called to be known by its love. Prayer is essential for achieving unity. Reconciliation extends beyond racial issues. Worship can be a powerful tool for unity. Humility is key in resolving conflicts. The urgency of prayer is highlighted in today's world. Personal reconciliation with God is the starting point. prayer, reconciliation, unity, church, Jesus, One Heart, ministry, worship, community, love

In this episode Puno Selesho compiles a beautiful poem that communicates the key themes she experienced at the 24/7 Prayer South Africa National gathering. The poem is a powerful and compelling call to a deeper life of abiding and response.  You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode Zikhona Magana of the 24-7 Prayer South Africa team shares her story of moving against the odds into the call of God on her life, working for justice in South Africa and why we all have an opportunity to build a better nation together.  You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode Sheila Wise Rowe shares her insights and experiences from years in ministry around the tension between our being and our doing and how we live into that tension well. In particular she speaks about the communal imperative of the Christian faith and how we need one another in the journey.  You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode Brian Heasley reminds us that prayer, mission and justice are inseparable and essential elements of the Christian life. Through his personal stories and helpful insights he helps us consider what it might live a life that is more radically given to partnership with Jesus in healing the world.  You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode Nicholas Rowe encourages us to heed the words of Jesus to Peter in the garden and 'Put away the sword'. He reminds us that while it can be tempting to build and minister according to the mechanisms of Empire, these strategies do not yield Kingdom fruit.  You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode Danielle Strickland challenges us to really consider our images of God and ask what it might mean to return to and image of god that looks more like Jesus.  You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode Robert Ntuli brilliantly outlines a Kingdom vision for The Church and challenges us to repent from building after "patterns of Egypt" and return to building according to patterns of The Kingdom of God. You can find out more about the ministry of Follower by visiting www.wearefollower.com You can get involved with the One Heart prayer guide by visiting www.24-7Prayerafrica.com

In this episode we hear from Rene August, a veteran in the anti-Apartheid movement, anglican priest, reconciliation trainer and companion to churches wanting to respond to issues of poverty, injustice and division in their city.  Among other things Rene calls us to return to the Jesus of Bible and seek to walk faithfully in His way.  For more on the ministry of Follower you can visit www.wearefollower.com

In this episode Matthew has a conversation with Anneke Rabee, a champion of prayer and reconciliation in South Africa and the nations of the world. Anneke shares stories of prayer and reconciliation from her own life and challenges us as The Church to take hands with Jesus in the work of healing the deep wounds of our world. To find out more about the ministry of Follower you can visit www.wearefollower.com