The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast

Jennie Allen is back on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast, and this conversation goes straight for the thing most of us can’t name—but feel every day: the hidden “core lie” running beneath our thoughts. With warmth, honesty, and that signature Jennie clarity, she helps us spot the patterns that keep showing up (striving, spiraling, numbing, isolating), trace them back to what we’re really believing, and start fighting for actual freedom—especially because our kids are absorbing more than we realize. You’ll hear the three core lies that tend to drive us (worthless, helpless, unlovable), why “trying harder” is a trap that burns you out, and why surrender can be the most practical, clear-headed path forward. Get your copy of The Lie You Don't Know You Believe here Learn more about Jennie and all she has to offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We weren’t built to live in a constant state of “what’s next.” Yet that low-grade restless hum has become normal in modern family life. In her third appearance on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast, Michaeleen Doucleff — author of Hunt, Gather, Parent — returns with a powerful conversation about her new book Dopamine Kids and the science behind why screens and ultraprocessed foods leave us chasing instead of satisfied. This episode unpacks the overdrive of wanting, the illusion of pleasure, and the practical shifts that can help you take back the steering wheel of your home. Less frantic scrolling. Less food noise. More calm. More creation. More real joy. We deserve better than Netflix. Get your copy of Dopamine Kids here . It's one of the best books I've ever read! Get your copy of Hunt, Gather, Parent here Learn more about Michaeleen and all she has to offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ginny Yurich sits down with writer and researcher Alex Soojung-Kim Pang to reclaim something our culture keeps treating like a reward: real rest. Drawing from Rest: Why You Get More Done When You Work Less and his work on the four-day workweek, Alex makes the case that rest isn’t what you do after life finally calms down—it’s the engine that makes good work, good parenting, and a good life possible. You’ll hear why history’s most creative people didn’t grind nonstop (they worked in focused bursts, then walked, napped, played, and protected their attention), why shorter workweeks tend to make people more present and “ridiculously wholesome,” and why kids’ independence and unscheduled time are not luxuries but developmental fuel. This conversation will make you want to put your phone down, step outside, and start building a life where work and rest are equals on purpose. Get your copy of Rest here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Bevere joins host Ginny Yurich on The 1000 Hours Outside Podcast with the kind of story that wakes you up—in the best way: a kid who struggled with writing (his SAT English score was a 370) becoming the author of 25 books… because he couldn’t shake the sense that God was asking him to put something on paper. From an unexpected college conversion to a decades-long reluctance to talk about end-times, John explains why his newest message isn’t about charts, dates, or fear—it’s about preparation, eager anticipation, and living with an eternal perspective that actually makes you kinder, steadier, and more alive right now. You’ll hear a surprisingly beautiful “relationship, not religion” moment, a fresh picture of eternity that sounds nothing like floating on clouds, and why “the King is coming” is meant to produce courage—not escapism. Explore The King Is Coming and The Awe of God and check out MessengerX - the free discipleship app John mentions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Youth sports can feel like a treadmill you can’t step off—more time, more money, more pressure, and a nagging fear that if you don’t start at age six, you’ve missed your chance. In this episode, Ginny Yurich sits down with Pure Athlete co-founder and Parenting the Pure Athlete author Britt Lee to zoom out and ask the question parents rarely get to ask: what is this really all for? Britt unpacks why most kids quit organized sports by early adolescence, why “early dominance” doesn’t predict much before puberty, and how the real ROI isn’t a scholarship—it’s the transferable stuff: resilience, belief, coachability, leadership, and learning to handle nerves when it matters. They talk time audits, parental body language, why the car ride home can make or break a kid’s love of the game, and how to keep sports from stealing family culture while still letting it build something lasting. Learn more about Britt and all he has to offer here Get your copy of Parenting The Pure Athlete here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Anne-Laure Le Cunff—founder of Ness Labs and author of Tiny Experiments—joins Ginny Yurich to offer a freeing alternative to the ladder-climbing, goal-obsessed script so many of us are living by. Drawing from her own pivot from Google to startups to neuroscience, she explains why uncertainty isn’t a problem to solve—it’s a place where you can learn who you actually are, one tiny experiment at a time. This conversation is super practical and it's hopeful—especially for parents raising kids in a world that worships productivity. If you’ve been pushing hard, feeling behind, or quietly wondering if you’re building the wrong life, this episode will help you trade pressure for curiosity—and make room for more play, presence, and real progress. Get your copy of Tiny Experiments here Learn about Anne-Laure and all she has to offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this warm, science-backed conversation, Ginny Yurich sits down with developmental researchers Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek and Dr. Roberta Golinkoff—the longtime collaborators behind the newly revised Einstein Never Used Flashcards—to name what so many parents feel but can’t quite put into words: childhood has been sped up, pressured, optimized, and drained of joy. They unpack why “earlier” doesn’t mean “better,” how screens and constant distraction are reshaping family life and even college campuses, and why play isn’t extra—it’s the way kids build flexible, future-ready brains (and calmer homes). If you’ve been parenting with a low-grade panic that your child is falling behind, this episode offers something better than another checklist: relief, perspective, and a simple path back to connection. Get your copy of Einstein Never Used Flashcards here Learn more about Dr. Kathy Hirsh-Pasek and all she has to offer here Learn more about Dr. Roberta Golinkoff and all she has to offer here Follow their practical parenting clips at @drkathyanddrro. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ginny Yurich sits down with neurologist and neuroscientist Dr. Majid Fotuhi to flip the script on what most of us assume about memory: it isn’t something you either “have” or “lose”—it’s a skill you can build. Drawing from decades of work with brain health, ADHD, concussion recovery, and cognitive decline, Dr. Fotuhi explains why everyday forgetfulness is often normal (and not an automatic sign of Alzheimer’s), then gives a clear, doable framework for getting sharper at any age through his five pillars of brain health—exercise, sleep, nutrition, stress reduction, and brain training. You’ll hear why movement supercharges the brain, why racquet sports and “thinking + motion” activities are especially powerful for kids and adults, how to make names and information stick by adding emotion and play, what’s actually happening during menopause brain fog, and why optimism and purpose aren’t just nice ideas—they’re linked to real changes in the brain. This episode is practical, hopeful, and immediately motivating—you’ll finish it feeling like your brain isn’t fragile… it’s trainable. So exciting!! Get your copy of The Invincible Brain here Learn more about Dr. Fotuhi and all he has to offer here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ginny Yurich sits down with Dr. Ross W. Greene to examine a hard truth: if consequences were going to fix chronic behavior challenges, they would have worked by now. Greene’s central premise—kids do well if they can—shifts the focus away from motivation and toward lagging skills and unsolved problems. In this conversation, they unpack why the same students are repeatedly punished, why taking away recess often makes things worse, and how reacting in the moment keeps adults “late” instead of proactive. You’ll hear a practical framework for identifying predictable triggers, listening in a way that builds clarity rather than conflict, and solving problems collaboratively without lowering expectations. This episode is a thoughtful look at what actually changes outcomes—for the kids who are struggling most and for everyone around them. https://livesinthebalance.org/Get your copy of The Kids Who Aren’t OkayGet your copy of The Explosive Child Get your copy of Lost at School Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Easter returns for his third appearance, and this one feels like a relief: a simple way to get stronger, steadier, and more clear-headed without adding another complicated “wellness” project to your life. Ginny Yurich and Michael talk about the Two Percenter mindset, why walking is already powerful, and how adding a reasonable load can quietly upgrade nearly everything—muscle, bone density, core strength, endurance, mood, and even the way you move through everyday life (yes, even airports and errands). They also get practical about getting started with what you already own, why this works especially well for busy parents, and how time outside can turn down the mental noise and help you hear yourself again. Check out Walk with Weight , follow Michael’s Two Percent newsletter/substack , and learn more about Walkfully Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Archaeologist and author Amanda Hope Haley joins Ginny Yurich for a conversation that makes the Bible feel both more historically grounded and more alive. From sixth-grade “digs” and a life-changing biblical archaeology class to fieldwork near ancient sites and fresh discoveries that keep rewriting what we think we know, Amanda explains how archaeology doesn’t “prove” Scripture—it illuminates it, clears away centuries of assumptions, and restores the texture of the ancient world. They talk Noah’s Ark (and why the obsession misses the point), the surprising power of stone memorials, why traditions sometimes get mistaken for text, and how new finds—like the excavation of Magdala—can sharpen our understanding of familiar stories without shaking faith. Plus, an unforgettable Amish family story, a quick, mind-bending detour into space and the James Webb telescope, and a closing childhood memory under the stars that perfectly fits the 1000 Hours Outside message. Find everything Amanda Hope Haley offers here: https://www.amandahopehaley.com Get your copy of Stones That Speak here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hope isn’t a personality trait—it’s a practice, and Dr. Julia Garcia is here to show us how to build it when life feels heavy. In this honest, energizing conversation with Ginny Yurich, Dr. Garcia shares her own journey from deep hopelessness to earning a PhD in psychology and helping families, students, and leaders strengthen what she calls our “goal-directed” brain circuits—the ones that help us regulate emotions, make plans, and keep going. You’ll hear the science behind loneliness and despair and how simple habits like risk (letting yourself be seen) and release (finding healthy outlets—from poetry to nature to movement) can change everything. Learn more about Dr. Julia Garcia and her work: https://journeywithdrj.com Get her book The Five Habits of Hope Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get our top ranked mobile app for iOS or Android! Healthcare shouldn’t be the thing that decides whether you can take a risk, build a business, stay home with your kids, or say yes to the life you actually want—and in this conversation, Ginny Yurich talks with real-life friend Dustin Garrett from Samaritan Ministries about a different way forward. Instead of paying premiums into the ether and hoping the fine print works out, Dustin explains how healthcare sharing works person-to-person—real families helping real families—often with surprising clarity, freedom of choice, and a kind of human connection you don’t get from an insurance portal. They dig into why the system feels so broken, why price transparency matters, how Samaritan has been doing this for decades, and what’s new with Redeem Healthshare, the next-generation, all-digital option that adds features many families have asked for. If you’ve ever felt boxed in by “good benefits,” this episode will feel like someone opening a door. Learn more about Samaritan Ministries: https://samaritanministries.org Explore Redeem Healthshare: https://redeemhealthshare.org A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Purchase Ginny's trio of books: ⁠Until the Streetlights Come On⁠, ⁠Homeschooling⁠, and ⁠1000 Hours Outside Activity Book Leadership isn’t just for boardrooms—it’s for breakfast tables, hard conversations, and the million tiny decisions that shape a home. In this powerful, practical conversation, Ginny Yurich sits down with Jamie Cochran, COO of Echelon Front, the leadership company founded by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin, to talk about why Extreme Ownership changes everything—especially for parents. Jamie shares how SEAL-proven principles like taking ownership instead of blaming, simplifying communication, role-playing hard conversations, and “seeing a need and filling a need” can transform family culture from the inside out. You’ll also hear the story behind Echelon Front’s growth, why women’s leadership needed a clearer on-ramp, how Warrior Kid equips kids with discipline and courage, and the surprising freedom that comes when you realize: if you’re the problem, you can be the solution. Get your copy of Extreme Ownership here Find Echelon Front resources, events, and training at https://echelonfront.com/ Explore the Online Academy at https://academy.echelonfront.com/ Learn more about The Assembly (Women’s Leadership) at https://echelonfront.com/the-assembly/ A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Get our free Top Ten 1000 Hours Outside Podcast Books from 2025⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Kartik Hosanagar has been tracking AI long before “ChatGPT” became a household word, and in this conversation with Ginny Yurich, he helps parents see what’s already shaping their homes (and possibly children). AI can affect what we watch, what we buy, what we believe, who we date, and our career paths. Drawing from his book A Human’s Guide to Machine Intelligence, Kartik explains how machines stopped simply following “recipe-like” instructions and began learning like children do—surprising us, improvising, and sometimes operating as black boxes we can’t fully interpret. You’ll hear the jaw-dropping story of the early chatbots that felt like real friends, why recommendation engines narrow our options without us noticing, and what it looks like to reclaim agency by adding “friction” back into family life. This episode is both a wake-up call and a steadying roadmap for staying human in an algorithmic world. Get a copy of the Book: A Human’s Guide to Machine Intelligence Check out Kartik’s Substack Creative Intelligence: https://hosanagar.substack.com A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jinger Duggar Vuolo grew up in front of millions of viewers on 19 Kids and Counting, raised inside a tightly controlled religious subculture that promised certainty, safety, and success if you followed the rules exactly right. In this deeply honest conversation, Jinger and Jeremy Vuolo sit down with Ginny Yurich to talk about what it actually took to separate the truth of Jesus from a system built on fear, performance, and man-made expectations. They discuss growing up under public scrutiny, the exhaustion of people-pleasing, the stress of trying to get every decision “right,” and the courage it takes to question teachings that once defined your entire world. This episode is about freedom. It’s about what happens when faith becomes personal instead of performative and when belonging replaces approval-seeking. Find Jeremy + Jinger’s show here: The Jinger & Jeremy Podcast. Get your copy of You Always Belong here Get your copy of People Pleaser here Get your copy of Becoming Free Indeed here Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Melissa Ferguson is back for her second appearance—and she’s very pregnant, wildly funny, and living proof that dreams don’t arrive on your schedule. In this conversation with host Ginny Yurich, Melissa pulls back the curtain on the book world: why publishing wants you to “stay in your lane,” how rejection and slow progress can still lead to a long-tail payoff, what writers really need to watch for in agents and contracts, and why the pressure to market everywhere can crush the very work you’re trying to create. Along the way, she shares the surreal joy of watching her beloved rom-com Meet Me in the Margins move toward the screen (with her credited as Executive Producer) and what it’s like to juggle farm life, homeschooling, deadlines, and a baby on the way—while still choosing relationships, rest, and meaning over the endless chase for more. *Get your copy of Meet Me in the Margins here *Get your copy of Without a Clue here *Check out Melissa and all she has to offer here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Azure Standard founder David Stelzer joins Ginny Yurich for a direct, fascinating conversation about how food quality, farming practices, and community are tied together. David tells the origin story of Azure: his family’s early move away from chemical-intensive farming, the hard years of transition, and the moment they lost a major buyer forcing him to start delivering organic grains himself, one small route at a time. That scrappy beginning grew into today’s nationwide drop system (now 3,000+ locations), where families can access organic and carefully vetted products at scale while staying connected to independent farms and producers. Along the way, David explains what healthy soil actually does, why nutrient density matters, and why he believes rebuilding health has to start with rebuilding what we grow and what we eat. If you care about feeding your family well without getting lost in labels and marketing, this episode will give you a bigger framework—and a practical path forward. Learn more about Azure Standard and all they have to offer here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is a little Valentine’s gift with a backstory: Ginny recorded it in 2024 during Chelsea Damon’s launch week—back when her brand-new marriage book had just come out—and then thought she lost the file in a computer crash… until now. She found it! And thought this was the perfect day to post it. Chelsea (author of I Thought This Would Make Me Happy) shares the hard-won lessons that actually hold a marriage together when life gets loud—role-swaps, job loss, living with in-laws for three years, the pressure-cooker years (she cites the 5–8 year window as a common breaking point), and the small resentments that quietly stack up if you don’t deal with them with grace and honesty. You’ll walk away with practical, doable ideas and a hope-filled reminder that joy in marriage isn’t found in a perfect season, but in learning how to grow together through the imperfect ones. Get your copy of I Thought This Would Make Me Happy here Learn more about Chelsea and all she has to offer here A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Play isn’t a break from learning — it is learning. In this powerful conversation with Lauren and Mia Sundstrom — daughter and granddaughter of renowned play researcher Dr. Stuart Brown — we explore why play is practice for the future in a world that feels increasingly uncertain. From rough-and-tumble childhood experiences to teenage burnout, adult loneliness, brain health, and even leadership, this episode makes a compelling case that unstructured, self-directed play builds resilience, creativity, emotional regulation, and adaptability — the exact skills our kids (and we) will need in an AI-shaped world. If you’ve ever wondered whether play is “productive,” this conversation will change how you see your afternoons, your marriage, your parenting, and your own sense of joy. Learn more at nifplay.org and connect with Mia at miasundstrom.com. A huge thank you to our sponsors! Check them ALL out below:  BetterHelp: Visit  www.BetterHelp.com/1000HOURS  today to get 10% off your first month. Quince - Visit www.quince.com/outside and get free shipping and 365 day returns Hungry Root - Go to www.hungryroot.com/1000HOURS and use code 1000HOURS to get 40% off your first box and a free item of your choice for life. IXL Learning - Head to www.ixl.com/1000hours to get an exclusive 20% savings on your membership Wayfair - Go to www.wayfair.com and shop all things home Cure Hydration- head to www.curehydration.com/outside to find a retailer near you Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices