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Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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Kara and Scott are reunited and it feels so good! They talk about the latest election polls, tech stocks continuing to struggle, and Apple's role in child safety legislation. Then, after Brazil blocks X, will other countries take on Elon Musk? Plus, what the heck is founder mode and why is everyone in Silicon Valley talking about it? Finally, a listener mail question about the future of Trump Media, as the stock plummets to new lows. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
There’s a major internet speech regulation currently making its way through Congress, and it has a really good chance of becoming law. It’s called KOSPA: the Kids Online Safety and Privacy Act, which passed in the Senate with overwhelming bipartisan support late last month. At a high level, KOSPA could radically change how tech platforms handle speech in an effort to try and make the internet safer for minors.  Nilay Patel talks with Verge senior policy reporter Lauren Feiner, who’s been covering these bills for months now, to explain what’s happening, what these bills actually do, and what the path forward for this legislation looks like. Listen to more from Decoder from Nilay Patel here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara is joined by her brother Jeff Swisher, her son Louie Swisher, and best friend of Pivot George Hahn! They discuss the upcoming debate rules and the state of the race, Mark Zuckerberg saying he felt “pressured” to “censor” Covid-19 content, and burnout among teachers and parents. Also a new COVID-19 vaccine is here – when should you get it? Then, a discussion on rawdogging flights… because why not? Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and guest host Adam Grant discuss whether Democrats can keep running on the politics of joy, the contrasting types of masculinity on the ballot, and the effective leadership tactics that everyone can learn from this election cycle. Plus, what the arrest of Telegram CEO Pavel Durov means for social media platforms and tech execs. Then, our Friend of Pivot is Anupreeta Das, a New York Times journalist, and the author of the new book, "Billionaire, Nerd, Savior, King: Bill Gates and His Quest to Shape Our World." Anupreeta explains how Bill Gates has shape-shifted for better and for worse over the years. Follow Adam at @AdamMGrant Follow Anupreeta at @PreetaTweets Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Laura Coates joins Kara as co-host to discuss all things DNC! Top speakers, funny moments, and better vibes than the RNC. And of course, Tim Walz’s pep talk for the country. Plus, the latest on the race: RFK Jr. plans to drop out and endorse former President Trump. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot and Governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham. Watch Kara and Scott’s interviews with Congressman Maxwell Frost, and Senators Michael Bennet, Mark Kelly and Amy Klobuchar on our YouTube channel here. You can follow Laura on X at @thelauracoates. You can find Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on threads at @govmlg. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot is at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago! Scott is stuck outside the security perimeter, but you'll still hear from him. Meanwhile, Kara sits down with CNN'S Audie Cornish and Politico's Eli Stokols to break down what Harris and the Democrats need to accomplish this week, and whether it matters that Harris hasn't done an interview since becoming the Democratic candidate. Plus, Governor Tim Walz joins TikTok with his signature dad humor. Can a TikTok ticket translate into actual votes? Follow Audie at @audiecornish and Eli at @EliStokols Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Comedian Mike Birbiglia joins Kara to discuss the legal backlash to President Trump and Elon Musk's X event, the role of humor in the Harris campaign, and Starbucks tapping Chipotle’s CEO. Plus, Governor Gavin Newsom wants schools to restrict cellphone use, and streamer Tubi is defying expectations. Then, Mike answers your questions! Did he influence J.D. Vance’s love of couches? How does he approach storytelling? And most importantly…is Scott funny? Mike is currently doing a Charitybuzz auction raising money for YMCA! You can check it out here. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara is joined by guest host Mehdi Hasan to discuss Warner Bros. Discovery and Paramount announcing major write-offs for their cable assets, and Elon Musk facing yet another lawsuit. Then, what the latest poll numbers reveal about the state of the presidential race, plus Donald Trump's false claims that Kamala Harris rally photos are AI-generated. Our Friend of Pivot is Anthony Scaramucci, former White House Communications Director, and the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital. The Mooch explains why he thinks major changes are coming to the Trump campaign, and shares a wild prediction about the race. Follow Anthony at @scaramucci Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Noel King joins Kara as co-host to discuss the latest global market moves, NASA needing help from SpaceX, and whether empathy punishments work. Then, Tim Walz joins the Democratic ticket, how will the GOP campaign against him ? Plus, X has filed a federal antitrust suit against advertisers. Then, Noel and Kara make predictions on who will play Tim Walz on SNL, and what celebs the invigorated Democratic National Convention will attract. Listen to Today Explained here. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss the global stock market sell-off, and why people shouldn't panic. Then, Berkshire Hathaway unloads nearly half of its stake in Apple as the company's cash stockpile increases, and what's behind the reported growing tensions between Warren Buffett and Bill Gates. Plus, Donald Trump ditches the previously scheduled ABC debate, and insists on Fox News or nothing. Our Friend of Pivot is Jonathan Kanter, the Assistant Attorney General for the Justice Department's Antitrust Division. Jonathan gives his immediate reaction to the landmark Google antitrust ruling, and explains the repercussions for tech and beyond. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Donald Trump's disastrous interview at the National Association of Black Journalists’ conference, the hundreds of VCs pledging their support to Kamala Harris, and the narrowing VP race. Plus, the latest earnings from Meta and Microsoft, and the Senate finally takes action with online regulation for kids. Then we’re joined by Friend of Pivot, Democratic Governor of Colorado, Jared Polis. You can find Governor Polis on Threads at @govofco. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Biden's proposal to reform the Supreme Court, and Rupert Murdoch's real-life succession drama. Then, Elon is dealing with some family drama of his own, as his estranged daughter and his ex's mother call him out on social media. He also seems to have violated his own platform's policies, by sharing a deep fake of a Kamala Harris ad. Plus, Donald Trump courts the Bitcoin bros and Christian voters, as Kamala raises millions. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Anne Applebaum, staff writer at The Atlantic, and author of "Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World." Anne explains how the current group of world autocrats will stop at nothing to gain absolute power, and digs into the dangers of a Trump second term. Follow Anne at @anneapplebaum Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Kamala Harris's poll numbers in the face of GOP attacks, Biden's farewell speech, and what Taylor Swift will do about it all. Then, tech stocks tumble after underwhelming earnings reports from Tesla and Alphabet. Then we’re joined by our Friend of Pivot, Dr. Anthony Fauci, to talk about his new memoir, “On Call: A Doctor’s Journey in Public Service.” You can find “On Call,” here. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Joe Biden passing the torch to Kamala Harris, and how she'll do against Trump. Also, who will be her VP? Friend of Pivot, New York Times Opinion Columnist Lydia Polgreen joins them to discuss. Then, the ongoing fallout from the CrowdStrike update that caused 8.5 million devices to crash on Friday. You can find Lydia on Threads at @lpolgreen. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Biden's campaign crisis, and what happens next. Then, a number of Kara's favorite tech bros are lining up behind Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. How much influence could they have if Trump wins the election? Plus, Elon plans to relocate X and SpaceX to Texas, and Google is in talks for its largest acquisition ever. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott react to the news of Donald Trump's VP pick, J.D. Vance, in real time. Then, they discuss whether Americans can actually "lower the temperature," following the Trump assassination attempt. Plus, a closer look at the conspiracy theories and misinformation now swirling around social media, and how Elon Musk is trying to shape the narrative. Our Friend of Pivot is David Plouffe, former Obama campaign manager, and current co-host of "The Campaign Managers" podcast. David explains what's changed (and what hasn't) about the presidential race following the shooting, and whether the calls for Biden to drop out will now go away. Follow David at @davidplouffe. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Microsoft and Apple ditching OpenAI board seats, the proposed ban on congressional stock trading, and Tesla's EV market share dipping below 50% for the first time. Then, calls for Biden to drop out of the race are mounting, but will the president just wait out the clock? Plus, what the GOP's new platform reveals about a Trump second term, including the implications for Big Tech. Finally, a listener question on deciding where to go for college. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Kara and Scott discuss Biden's decision to stay in the race, and what alternate scenarios might look like. Then, after months of negotiations, the Paramount and Skydance merger appears to be (finally) happening. Plus, Apple gets a seat on OpenAI's board, and Threads turns one. Finally, our Friend of Pivot is Brian Derrick, a political strategist, and the founder and CEO of Oath, a fundraising platform that aims to maximize campaign donations. Brian explains how donors are reacting to Biden's continued candidacy, and reveals the high-stakes statewide elections that people should be paying attention to. Follow Brian at @brianderrick_ Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot is off for the holiday! In the meantime, we're bringing you an episode of On With Kara Swisher. Kara interviews Mira Murati, Chief Technology Officer at OpenAI, and one of the most powerful people in tech. Murati has helped the company skyrocket to the forefront of the generative AI boom, and Apple’s recent announcement that it will soon put ChatGPT in its iPhones, iPads and laptops will only help increase their reach. But there have been some issues along the way - including CEO Sam Altman's brief ouster, accusations of putting profit over safety, and the controversy over whether the company stole Scarlett Johansson's voice. Kara and Murati discuss it all. This interview was recorded live at the Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg Center in Washington, DC as part of their new Discovery Series. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Pivot’s special series on the future of travel wraps up with a last stop: planes. What exactly is happening with Boeing? How will AI play a role in aviation? And most importantly, what is everyone’s favorite, and least favorite airport? Kara and Scott discuss it all with Pete Muntean, CNN's aviation and transportation correspondent, who also happens to be a pilot and flight instructor. Follow Pete at @petemuntean. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Comments (104)

baby rock

who is fbis guy and what's in his mouth?

Sep 3rd
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Jay D. Gelman

I find myself listening less and less. There is too much politics and hate.

Aug 16th
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Jayne Steuland

if she picked shapiro, she would have to watch her back for 4 years

Aug 6th
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Jessie Ross

I've been tuning into ‘Pivot’ for a while now, and I must say it consistently delivers insightful and thought-provoking content. Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher bring such a unique and balanced perspective to the latest in business, tech, and culture. Their conversations are both engaging and enlightening, making complex topics accessible and interesting. https://www.spreaker.com/episode/custom-packaging-design-trends-of-2024--60837954

Aug 3rd
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Mona Peterson

Pivot never fails to deliver insightful and thought-provoking discussions on the latest in tech, business, and culture. Kara and Scott have such a dynamic rapport, balancing sharp analysis with humor and candidness. https://www.spreaker.com/episode/successful-bakery-packaging-strategies--60715457

Aug 1st
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we feel sad for Kara, she seems to have so much missing from her life. sad.......

Jul 2nd
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baby rock

scott, listening to you talk about education is like nails on a blackboard. you're just an adjunct. you don't know anything.

Jan 30th
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baby rock

guest so lame

Jan 30th
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Gina Ruzicka

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Jan 18th
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Enea Koxhioni

Unsubbed because of disappointing takes on the labor movement by Scott as UAW and SAG strikes were building (+ his love of rightw "centrist" Bill Maher). Came back as was curious what their takes on the US' ONGOING funding of genocide of Palestine via Israeli "self-defense" was. Expectedly disappointing. Rather than educate themselves on Israeli historical whitewashing of settler violence against Palestinians for decades, they took the lazy out.😞 Out of touch liberal elite is a sad stereotype.

Dec 8th
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Carlos Barron

"Pivot" is an incredibly insightful podcast that consistently delivers thought-provoking content on navigating change and adapting to new circumstances. Hosted by experts in their respective fields, the discussions on this podcast are not only engaging but also provide practical strategies for individuals and businesses looking to thrive in an ever-evolving world. https://www.whatsyourhours.com/new-york/brooklyn/manufacturers-suppliers/cereal-boxery The depth of analysis and the diversity of topics covered, from personal development to business strategies, make "Pivot" a valuable resource for anyone seeking inspiration and guidance in times of transition. The hosts' ability to bring in diverse perspectives and share real-life examples adds a layer of authenticity that resonates with the audience. Overall, "Pivot" is a must-listen for those who appreciate well-researched insights and actionable advice. https://www.bark.com/en/us/company/cereal-boxery/bQ07d/

Dec 2nd
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Corrie Schmidt

"scott is an annoying jerk, but go ahead" - me, interrupting kara

Nov 23rd
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Aakash Amanat

I thoroughly enjoyed the latest episode of "Pivot." Kara and Scott, your deep dive into the current tech and business landscape is always insightful and thought-provoking. In this episode, your analysis of the evolving role of big tech companies in society, especially in the context of privacy, regulation, and ethical considerations, was exceptionally well-articulated. Your discussion on the recent government actions and how they might impact these companies was particularly engaging. https://www.smartmoneymatch.com/Kraft%20Paper%20Printer Furthermore, I appreciated your take on emerging trends and their potential implications. The exploration of the metaverse, the challenges posed by AI and automation, and the changing dynamics of remote work were all topics that resonated with me. https://www.startus.cc/company/kraft-paper-printer

Nov 2nd
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baby rock

so boring

Oct 11th
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baby rock

Scott, buy a microphone you cheap inaudible bastard.

Sep 22nd
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Enea Koxhioni

Had to pause at 23:30 to rant. You don't think attacking corporations messages well in our current economic climate? When both income disparity and corporate profits are at record highs? And companies have the power of nation states but none of the incentives to help everyday people? Is that why Bernie was the more popular candidate when the DNC stole his 2016 nomination and gave it to sociopathic smiling puppet (who I can only imagine you would have loved) that then proceeded to lose to a more honest sociopath demogoging as a populist? Because Bernie's policies were unpopular? I can see how anyone may be a tad myopic given that worldview is always somewhat predetermined by SES, but how much of your own colon have you inhaled at this point? This is is such MSNBC centrist bootstrapping horseshit. Wake the fuck up dude. 2001 is over. Rampant capitalism had its shot. And Biden didn't bring everyone together. Not once did you underscore a federally mandated minimum wage increase as a solut

Sep 10th
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Aakash Amanat

It's fascinating to see how businesses and individuals alike often find themselves at a crossroads where they need to pivot. A pivot can be both a challenging and an exciting prospect. It requires careful consideration, a deep understanding of the current situation, and a willingness to adapt to new circumstances. https://trueen.com/business/listing/prime-butcher-wrap/341030 When a company pivots, it's essentially a testament to its resilience and willingness to evolve. It's not about giving up on the original vision, but rather about acknowledging the need for change in order to stay relevant and meet the evolving needs of the market. https://www.merchantcircle.com/prime-butcher-wrap-chicago-il

Aug 19th
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Karluigi Marie

College changed my life when I was a single parent. No monumental greatness but from a non living wages to now as a woman in my family I own a house and I never have to worry about food or gas. I work for the state and 10,000 of my loans were discharged at age 59. i never complained about those loans once. My son has a masters and paid off his loans before he had children. Good government did that! I add value to my country because my country valued me. I am very fortunate.

Jul 30th
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Enea Koxhioni

guys these links have been broken for weeks now. what's up?

Jul 29th
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Karluigi Marie

First time listener. Loved it!

Jul 22nd
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