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Defense in Depth
Defense in Depth
Author: David Spark, Steve Zalewski, Geoff Belknap
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Defense in Depth promises clear talk on cybersecurity's most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community's insights to lead our discussion.
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All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Caleb Sima for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Evan McHenry, CISO, Robinhood. In this episode: The information paradox Setting realistic expectations Prioritization over noise The cart before the horse Huge thanks to our sponsor, Endor Labs Discover how AI coding agents are reshaping software supply chain risk in the State of Dependency Management. Original research from Endor Labs shows 49% of dependency versions have known vulnerabilities (and that 34% don't actually exist). Get the report to see how "shadow AI" is reshaping attack surfaces.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post, CISO, Upwind Security, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap, CISO, LinkedIn. Joining us is Octavia Howell, vp and CISO, Equifax Canada. In this episode: Beyond the quota The hard truth beats the polished bluff Paying for someone else's mistakes Reducing friction, increasing trust Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker takes a deny-by-default approach to endpoint security — controlling what applications can run, what can access data, and what can elevate privileges. Used by organizations that want to reduce attack surface without relying on detection alone. Learn more at threatlocker.com/ciso.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Mark Eggleston, CISO, CSC. In this episode: Breaking trust to test it Technical controls over testing The measurement imperative Fire drills, not gotchas Huge thanks to our sponsor, Scanner All your security logs end up in cloud storage like AWS S3. Scanner makes them searchable in seconds and runs real-time detections directly on that data. No pipelines, no re-ingestion. 100x faster than traditional data lakes, 10x cheaper than SIEMs. Loved by analysts. Built for AI agents. Learn more at scanner.dev.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Cliff Crosland, co-founder and CEO, Scanner.dev. In this episode: Earning autonomy gradually The blast radius question The reality check Today's value, tomorrow's evolution Huge thanks to our sponsor, Scanner All your security logs end up in cloud storage like AWS S3. Scanner makes them searchable in seconds and runs real-time detections directly on that data. No pipelines, no re-ingestion. 100x faster than traditional data lakes, 10x cheaper than SIEMs. Loved by analysts. Built for AI agents. Learn more at scanner.dev.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Dr. Chase Cunningham, CSO at Demo-Force, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is Brett Conlon, CISO, American Century Investments. In this episode: The experience paradox Who benefits from the narrative Kitchen sink job postings The aggregation problem Huge thanks to our sponsor, Scanner All your security logs end up in cloud storage like AWS S3. Scanner makes them searchable in seconds and runs real-time detections directly on that data. No pipelines, no re-ingestion. 100x faster than traditional data lakes, 10x cheaper than SIEMs. Loved by analysts. Built for AI agents. Learn more at scanner.dev
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is their sponsored guest, Rob Allen, chief product officer, ThreatLocker. In this episode: Getting permissions right The fundamentals that still fail Know what you have Simple controls, outsized impact Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker Want real Zero Trust training? Zero Trust World 2026 delivers hands-on labs and workshops that show CISOs exactly how to implement and maintain Zero Trust in real environments. Join us March 4–6 in Orlando, plus a live CISO Series episode on March 6. Get $200 off with ZTWCISO26 at ztw.com.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Patrick Garrity of VulnCheck for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Joining them is Tom Doughty, CISO, Generate:Biomedicines. In this episode: The 3Ms of product clarity Buzzwords work because buyers aren't experts Investor pressures distort messaging Threading the needle Huge thanks to our sponsor, Alteryx Alteryx is a leading AI and data analytics company that powers actionable insights that help organizations drive smarter, faster decisions. Alteryx One helps security, risk, and operations leaders cut hours of manual work to minutes, generate trusted insights at scale, and turn raw data into action faster than ever. Learn more at www.alteryx.com.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining them is sponsored guest Matt Goodrich, director of information security, Alteryx. In this episode: The integrity challenge Zero trust for AI outputs Guardrails over garbage It looks good... Huge thanks to our sponsor, Alteryx Alteryx is a leading AI and data analytics company that powers actionable insights that help organizations drive smarter, faster decisions. Alteryx One helps security, risk, and operations leaders cut hours of manual work to minutes, generate trusted insights at scale, and turn raw data into action faster than ever. Learn more at www.alteryx.com.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode, co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Jerich Beason, CISO, WM. Their guest is Pam Lindemoen, CSO and vp of strategy, RH-ISAC. In this episode: From loudest to most trusted Letting go of the win Listening over proving Beyond right and wrong Huge thanks to our sponsor, Alteryx Alteryx is a leading AI and data analytics company that powers actionable insights that help organizations drive smarter, faster decisions. Alteryx One helps security, risk, and operations leaders cut hours of manual work to minutes, generate trusted insights at scale, and turn raw data into action faster than ever. Learn more at www.alteryx.com.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Ejona Preci, group CISO, LINDAL Group. In this episode: Consequence, not controls The credibility gap Defining the undefined Expanding the mandate A huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker makes Zero Trust practical. With Default Deny, Ringfencing, and Elevation Control, CISOs get real control that's easy to manage and built to scale. Stop threats before they execute and reduce operational noise without adding complexity. See how simple prevention can be at ThreatLocker.com/CISO.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Binoy Koonammavu of Secusy AI for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is best-selling cybersecurity author Peter Gregory. His upcoming study guide on AI governance can be pre-ordered here. In this episode: Speaking the language of leadership Beyond translation: the trust factor Making risk tangible When translation isn't enough Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker makes Zero Trust practical. With Default Deny, Ringfencing, and Elevation Control, CISOs get real control that's easy to manage and built to scale. Stop threats before they execute and reduce operational noise without adding complexity. See how simple prevention can be at ThreatLocker.com/CISO.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Nick Nolen of Redpoint Cyber for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is Erika Dean, former CSO, Robinhood. In this episode: Delegation requires accountability The reality of daily decision-making The gap between theory and practice Beyond the advisory role Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker makes Zero Trust practical. With Default Deny, Ringfencing, and Elevation Control, CISOs get real control that's easy to manage and built to scale. Stop threats before they execute and reduce operational noise without adding complexity. See how simple prevention can be at ThreatLocker.com/CISO
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Christofer Hoff of Truist for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Caleb Sima, builder, WhiteRabbit. Joining them is Crystal Chatam, vp of cybersecurity, Speedcast. In this episode: Understanding the fundamentals The grift of superficial expertise Hands-on experience matters A vulnerability at the leadership level Huge thanks to our sponsor, Stellar Cyber By shining a bright light on the darkest corners of security operations, Stellar Cyber empowers organizations to see incoming attacks, know how to fight them, and act decisively – protecting what matters most. Stellar Cyber's award-winning open security operations platform includes AI-driven SIEM, NDR, ITDR, Open XDR, and Multi-Layer AI™ under one unified platform with a single license. With ⅓ of the global top 250 MSSPs and over 14,000 customers worldwide, Stellar Cyber is one of the most trusted leaders in security operations. Learn more at https://stellarcyber.ai/.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Ross Haleliuk of Venture in Security for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Davi Ottenheimer, vp, trust and digital ethics, Inrupt. In this episode: Network security isn't dying—it's evolving The observability layer that can't be replaced What's old is new again The innovation gap Huge thanks to our sponsor, HackerOne Discover how AI innovators like Adobe, Anthropic, and Snap are using AI to find and fix vulnerabilities across the software development lifecycle. HackerOne, the global leader in offensive security solutions, reveals all in the CISOs' guide to securing the future of AI. Download it now to see how AI can strengthen your security posture. Learn more at https://www.hackerone.com/
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Kevin Paige, CISO at ConductorOne, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Rob Allen, chief product officer, ThreatLocker. In this episode: When configuration drift becomes operational reality The garden that never stops growing From detection to cultural shift The maturity gap Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker ThreatLocker® Defense Against Configurations continuously scans endpoints to uncover misconfigurations, weak firewall rules, and risky settings that weaken defenses. With compliance mapping, daily updates, and actionable remediation in one dashboard, it streamlines hardening, reduces attack surfaces, and strengthens security. Learn more at https://www.threatlocker.com/
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Kevin Paige, CISO at ConductorOne, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Julie Tsai, CISO-in-Residence, Ballistic Ventures. In this episode: Is least privilege dead? Modern tactics, timeless principle Implementation over ideology Pragmatism over purity Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera AI is moving fast - can your security keep up? Join the leaders shaping the future of data and AI security at DataSecAI Conference 2025, hosted by Cyera, Nov 12–13 in Dallas. Register now at https://datasecai2025.com/did.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Mike Johnson, CISO, Rivian. Joining them is their sponsored guest Bobby Ford, chief strategy and experience officer, Doppel. In this episode: Beyond the click High-risk users demand different metrics Building engagement over punishment Creating a security culture through community Huge thanks to our sponsor, Doppel Doppel is protecting the world's digital integrity. Impersonators adapt fast — but so does Doppel. By pairing AI with expert analysis, we don't just detect deception; we dismantle it. Our platform learns from every attack, expands its reach across digital channels, and disrupts threats before they cause harm. The result? Impersonators lose. Businesses become too costly to attack. And trust stays intact. Learn more at https://www.doppel.com/
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Mike Gallardo for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining them is Alex Guilday, BISO, Royal Caribbean Group. In this episode: Timing the approach When persistence becomes harassment Playing the long game The necessity argument Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera AI is moving fast - can your security keep up? Join the leaders shaping the future of data and AI security at DataSecAI Conference 2025, hosted by Cyera, Nov 12–13 in Dallas. Register now at https://datasecai2025.com/did.
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post by Evgeniy Kharam for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Ryan Dunn, Leader of Product and Supply Chain Technology, Specialized Bicycle Components. And check out "Architecting Success: The Art of Soft Skills in Technical Sales: Connect to Sell More" by Evgeniy Kharam we referenced in this episode. In this episode: Beyond the technical playbook Influencing without authority Partnering, not just selling The deliberate work of connection Thanks to our sponsor, HackerOne Built on 580,000+ validated vulnerabilities, $81M in payouts this year, and insights from 1,950 enterprise programs, the 2025 Hacker-Powered Security Report shows how leading organizations reduce risk and prove outcomes. Get practical guidance on attacker focus, response patterns, and board-ready metrics. Watch the Q&A, then download the report to operationalize what works for you. https://www.hackerone.com/report/future-of-ai?utm_medium=Paid-Newsletter&utm_source=cisoseries&utm_campaign=Parent-FY25-AIAwarenessCampaign-GL
All links and images can be found on CISO Series. Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Bil Harmer, security advisor, Craft Ventures. Joining them is James Bruce, business security services director, WPP. In this episode: Turning visibility into actionable intelligence Pure visibility still provides an essential security foundation Finding strategic value The risk of gaps in identity management Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker Human error remains one of the top cybersecurity threats. Just one wrong click can open the door to ransomware or data loss. With ThreatLocker, unauthorized apps, scripts, and devices are blocked before they can ever run. See how ThreatLocker can help you gain more control over your environment. Threatlocker.com/CISO






















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Good podcast, I started my acquaintance with the security of personal information with the article https://www.theodysseyonline.com/5-reasons-to-keep-your-personal-information-private-2657772729 which made me understand why this is so important with examples . Thanks for your ideas