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"Naylor's natter...just talking to teachers"

Naylor's Natter is the brainchild of Phil Naylor , created initially to share musings on evidence, research and CPD. The podcast has grown significantly since its first episode in early 2019 and is now proudly independent. We have no sponsorship or affiliation.

As the podcast has evolved so has its reach, we feel passionately about diversity of opinion and representation of our profession. To ensure we better reflect teaching , we are now proud to add more hosts to the podcast. Opinions are guests and hosts alone.

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About Ros  Primary, middle, and secondary school teacher Extensive experience working with pupils for which English is an additional language (EAL) Many years in Senior Leadership Head of Primary overseas Advisor for Assessment for Kirklees Local Authority Primary Strategy Manager for Education Bradford 12 years as an Ofsted inspector Five years as an Advanced Skills Assessor 20 years as an independent consultant supporting schools Creator of Big Writing, VCOP, and The Criterion Scale Published several books on primary writing and assessment with Oxford University Press Publications Ros has written a number of publications on writing, talk, curriculum, and assessment. Her latest books are published by Oxford University Press. Ros has recently written an exciting and amusing biography which centres on her journeys and adventures through life. She is also working on a series of illustrated children’s books that are fun and educational. Twitter Ros is active on Twitter and has made many great friends and professional connections. Ros has also had the pleasure of speaking at many grassroots events such as BrewEds through colleagues met on social media. Ros was listed as one of the top ten educational voices. Chartered College Through Twitter, Ros has developed a lasting friendship with Dame Alison Peacock and Professor Sam Twiselton OBE, CEO and Vice President respectively. Ros is proud to be an Affiliate Member and strong advocate of the Chartered College for Teachers. BBC Teach In November 2019, Ros was delighted to participate in a BBC Teach Live Lesson. The topic was remembrance and covered cross curricular learning, the difficulty of discussing conflict and loss, and how to get children to think critically and analytically. She has since edited and proofed scripts for subsequent recordings. Harrow International Ros was proud to be on the Global Advisory Panel for Harrow International Schools. Take a look at their great work here.
Daniel Muijs is Head of Research at Ofsted. Prior to his current role, Daniel was Professor of Education at the University of Southampton, and Associate Dean Research and Enterprise in the Faculty of Social, Human and Mathematical Sciences. He also previously worked as Professor of Pedagogy and Teacher Development at the University of Manchester, Professor of School Leadership and Management at the University of Newcastle and as senior lecturer in quantitative research methods at Warwick Institute of Education. He is an acknowledged expert in the fields of Educational and Teacher Effectiveness and quantitative research methods and has published widely in these areas. He is co-editor of the journal 'School Effectiveness and School Improvement', and has held key advisory posts in a range of academic and professional organisations, including currently the executive council of the European Association for Research in Learning and Instruction and the Questionnaire Expert Group for the OECD TALIS survey. Daniel holds a PhD in Social Sciences from the Catholic University of Leuven (Belgium), an MSc in Managerial Economics (Catholic University of Leuven) and a BA in Communication Sciences (Catholic University of Leuven) OFSTED guidance  As we move into a third national lockdown, with remote education for most pupils once again the default, we are of course very aware of the heroic efforts of leaders, teachers and staff in developing remote education. Likewise, we know there are difficulties and challenges that schools, colleges and teachers face in doing so. This short guide, which draws on findings from our interim visits, research and literature review, aims to provide some useful tips. FULL TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE HERE https://wordpress.com/home/pna1977.wordpress.com
Simon Cox is the Director of Blackpool Research School and in this episode will be discussing the best evidence on supporting students to learn remotely Blackpool Research School at St Mary’s Catholic Academy is an exciting development and part of the evidence-based journey that St Mary’s Catholic Academy has been on. We have supported schools at the forefront of making evidence-based practice the norm and Research School status is the natural next step for us. As the Research School for the Blackpool Opportunity Area, our aim is to develop an evidence-based profession, empowering teachers to use accessible tools based on research evidence to improve outcomes for all pupils. Our core purpose is to: Share and disseminate the very best of evidence-based practice to schools and teachers across Blackpool. Provide evidence-based training. Host conferences and events Support schools and work with Teaching Schools in the region Develop interventions and practices that help improve the life chances of pupils. The EEF's rapid evidence assessment examines the existing research (from 60 systematic reviews and meta-analyses) for approaches that schools could use, or are already using, to support the learning of pupils while schools are closed due to Covid-19. When implementing strategies to support pupils’ remote learning, or supporting parents to do this, key things to consider include: Teaching quality is more important than how lessons are delivered Ensuring access to technology is key, especially for disadvantaged pupils Peer interactions can provide motivation and improve learning outcomes Supporting pupils to work independently can improve learning outcomes Different approaches to remote learning suit different types of content and pupils This research was funded by The EdTech Hub – as part of the partnership between the EdTech Hub and the Education Endowment Foundation. It has been published as a global public good – to support the global response to the education impacts of COVID-19. The EdTech Hub is a Global Initiative led by the Department for International Development (DFID), The World Bank and The Gates Foundation.
In this episode we discuss how Headteacher Janice Allen was an early adopter of a pioneering blended learning offering . Jan explains in detail: Rationale for the changes What model did you go for? What was the implementation plan? How did you bring your team with you? What have been teacher's and parents reactions (before Christmas) Have you now clicked into blended learning post Christmas? How are teachers and pupils adapting? What tips do you have for school leaders at the moment? We have 3 more specials in our blended learning series to come from Simon Cox (Blackpool Research School) , Daniel Muijs (OFSTED) and Doug Lemov.
A special podcast this week to mark the release of  'The Power of Culture' .We have interviews with authors from the ensemble cast of Michaela Teachers , namely Katie Ashford and friend of the show Pritesh Raichura. We also have an exclusive discount code for Naylor's Natter listeners embedded within.  We are also delighted to be teaming up with BBC Bitesize to bring you interviews with their class of 2020 and we start this week with Jordan Firth. We talk about his teacher talks, his podcast and his love of Leeds United. Our TDT section sees Michelle in conversation with Bethan about focus and we all look forward to the TDT conference coming soon. About Katie https://twitter.com/katie_s_ashford https://tabularasaeducation.wordpress.com/ About Pritesh https://twitter.com/Mr_Raichura https://bunsenblue.wordpress.com/ The book- The Power of Culture https://www.johncattbookshop.com/michaela-the-power-of-culture REMEMBER NN EXCLUSIVE DISCOUNT IN THE PODCAST  About Jordan https://twitter.com/MisterFirth https://twitter.com/HandsUpPod https://twitter.com/BBCBitesize https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p08cvr39/bitesize-57-year-olds-week-5-6-teacher-talks-shapes Next week - Michael Chiles on 'The Craft of Assessment' 
This week Teacher Development Trust CEO David Weston interviews Tom Bennett on behaviour, his work with the DfE on behaviour hubs, creating a culture and the mighty ResearchEd movement . Tom Bennett is the founder of researchED, a grass-roots organisation that raises research literacy in education. Since 2013 researchED has visited three continents and six countries, attracting thousands of followers. In 2015 he became the UK government’s school ‘Behaviour Czar’, advising on behaviour policy. He has written four books about teacher training, and in 2015 he was long listed as one of the world’s top teachers in the GEMS Global Teacher Prize. In the same year he made the Huffington Post’s ‘Top Ten Global Bloggers’ list. His online resources have been viewed over 1,200,000 times. Podcast Pedagogy Books -Teaching Walkthru's by Tom Sherrington and Oliver Caviglioli  Films- Onward by Disney Music- Dummy by Portishead  John Catt discount code: If you wish to purchase Tom Sherrington and Oliver Caviglioli's Teacher Walkthru's,  listeners  can enter code WALK40 to get 40% of an order of any quantity of Walkthrus up until the end of March. https://www.johncattbookshop.com/titles/teaching-walkthrus-five-step-guides-for-instructional-coaching
Welcome to this weeks Naylor’s Natter . This week is a special episode that I have been sitting on for some time. As you will all know , I was due to help host with my colleague Mr Simon Cox the behemoth that is rED Blackpool. At this conference , I was due to speak about behaviour , not because I am some kind of expert but because I am a student of behaviour . I would like to think that after years of honing my own behaviour management that I am stronger in this area than at any stage of my career. I attribute this to learning from and listening to many of the big voices in behaviour over 20 years . I started by learning from Lee Canter’s assertive discipline and this was a book I re-read each and every August before returning to school. I also discovered the behavior guru Bill Rogers and read many of Bill’s books and devoured his videos. The talk I referred to earlier was entitled ‘Behaviour- Ideology, evidence and pragmatism’ . Behaviour more than any other issue in school is highly controversial and teachers and leaders have many and varied styles and rationales for the behaviour policy they adopt . Teachers and leaders seem to have a strong position on their preferred behaviour approach and some seem to favour a particular camp or approach . This is very much teacher’s own choice and I fully understand that teachers are attached to their own particular style or strategy . The strap line for this podcast is talking to teacher and this is very much a philosophy that we at Naylor’s natter want to promote. On the podcast we have spoken to Sam Strickland, Tom Bennett , Kiran Gill , Jules Daulby and many other on their philosophy of behaviour . What hopefully listeners will find is that whatever your preferred style  , there is something to be gained from listening to everyone in the debate on behaviour . This week’s guest is Paul Dix. Paul has written the hugely successful ‘When the adults change, everything changes’ and is an experienced teacher and a leading voice in education . What struck me in our pre-lockdown February half-term conversation is how much great advice for teachers there is within this book and how practical its application can be . Paul speaks humbly about his own practice in the classroom , his rationale for writing the book to help teachers like himself and how reading this book many change your view of how you approach behaviour but also of his approach . Lot’s of the debate on social media is quite binary , this approach is good that one isn’t . This behaviour expert is right , this one is wrong and the levels of praise or vitriol can be off putting particularly with new teachers. This is a podcast to approach with an open mind , there will be something for you here whatever your current view on behaviour . You will hopefully see as I did , the common themes coming through from all the podcasts we have done on behaviour . I found Paul utterly charming and giving of his time and whilst I wont adopt everything we discussed , he really made me think about how to refine my own practice and that of the school . Thank you Paul We have our regular TDT section which this week is anything but regular as we have leadership legend and friend of the show Jill Berry back to talk about leadership. In podcast pedagogy this week I am reading the researched guide to the curriculum – an evidence informed guide for teachers edited by Claire Sealey who I will be speaking to soon about this new John Catt book . I am also revisiting retrieval practice – research and resources for every classroom from the wonderful Kate Jones .
This week I am in conversation with Michael Chiles on his book 'The CRAFT of Assessment' .  About Michael https://twitter.com/m_chiles Principal Examiner • HOD • Trainer • Author of CRAFT with @johncatt @SenecaLearn Ambassador • Border Collie Owner • Michael's career began as a Geography teacher in a secondary school in the West Midlands where he became head of department and then a senior leader with responsibility for teaching and learning . He then relocated to the north-west, taking a short period of time out of the classroom to develop and deliver teacher training both nationally and internationally . He is now head of department in a secondary school in the north-west. TDT section  Michelle talks to TDT CEO David Weston about the importance of culture  Podcast pedagogy This week I am reading 'A Sage on the Stage' by Michael Zwaagstra. Shameless plugs I will be speaking at #newED on behaviour on the 27th June , more information here: https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewEd2?src=hashtag_click I will also be presenting a keynote at the RSC conference (Wales) on 24th June , more information to follow.  Next week  Paul Dix on When the adults change
We are spoiling you with another double issue! This week we have interviews with The Difference founder and CEO Kiran Gill and Headteacher and author John Tomsett.  WE ALSO HAVE A DISCOUNT CODE FOR PSF, LISTEN CAREFULLY! https://www.johncattbookshop.com/putting-staff-first About Kiran  Kiran is Founder and CEO of The Difference – an organisation which is creating a new generation of school leaders, specialist in improving outcomes for the most vulnerable children.Kiran began her career in inner-city London, as an English teacher in schools serving the most deprived postcodes in the country.  After five years on the frontline, Kiran left to work in education policy, searching for solutions to the rising number of vulnerable children who fall through the gaps.  Kiran was working at Social Mobility Commission when she conceived the idea for The Difference.  She has led its work full-time since January 2017.Kiran is driven by her own family experiences. Growing up with two adopted sisters, Kiran witnessed the long-term effects of childhood trauma and the lack of support for young people with complex needs. This insight is what keeps Kiran striving for the most vulnerable children to get the education they deserve. About John  John has been a teacher for 31 years, a Head teacher for 16 years. John is the author of 3 education books He is a frequent blogger and popular speaker. The natters in brief Kiran with Kathryn Brief introduction from Kathryn on Kiran, who she is and what she does. 1. We know of Kiran Gill as Founder and CEO of The Difference but please tell listeners a little more about yourself and your journey from classroom teacher in inner-city London to CEO at The Difference. 2. In what way did your insights from being a teacher in inner-city London inspire and motivate you to incubate your idea for The Difference? 3. In 2017 you had raised enough capital to fund a research paper with think tank IPPR, to understand rising school exclusion and look for solutions to this growing problem. Tell listeners more about what that research entailed and what some of the headlines from the paper were. 4. In 2018, you were asked to contribute to the DfE’s Timpson Review of school exclusions. What were some of the main headlines from that review and how did it further help to shape your thinking at The Difference? John with Phil  Recruiting the best 1. No one wants to spend their career at odds with the organisation in which they work. Why is culture more important than money? 2. Huntington school is well known and respected as a place where teachers can develop, how did you go about establishing that Staffs obligation to improve their practise is a non-negotiable? 3. You go into detail about your process for selection, right through from providing the candidate with water rather than faffy tea or coffee through to the interview lesson. One section that struck me is the Storey you put in good subject knowledge. How important is subject expertise and can this be developed in the same way as pedagogy. Next week Pritesh Raichura on Michaela's The Power of Culture and Neil Reynolds on leadership in schools and football  Links https://johntomsett.com/ https://www.the-difference.com/our-story
This week sees another double-header which are proving very popular during Lockdown. We have Bruce Robertson in conversation with Phil about his John Catt book 'The Teaching Delusion' and Kathryn Morgan in conversation with Chloe Woodhouse and Caroline Spalding. We also have Michelle chatting to Maria in our TDT section on the use of expert knowledge.  About Bruce  Senior Leader of Teaching & Learning in the Scottish Borders | Author of 'The Teaching Delusion': https://amzn.to/2JnKPOa & https://bit.ly/3dLYL2r About Caroline Assistant Headteacher KS4, RSL & PP | Future Leaders cohort ‘19 |@SLTchat team member | Co-organiser @TeamEnglishNC @WomenEdEM Network Lead | Wrestling fan About Chloe Assistant Headteacher KS3 & PP |#TeamEnglish | SLE | PiXL associate | NPQSL | Co-organiser of @TeamEnglishNC | Geek | Comic book fan | Always on the dance floor The Natters The Teaching Delusion: Gentle introduction question, listeners will be familiar with you and your book 'The Teaching Delusion' from your summary in a previous podcast but could you tell us a little more about you and your career to date? BIG question starter , what is the purpose of school and a pertinent follow up is will this change as and when we return? 'Learning in schools is different from learning without schools because learning in schools involves students working with professional teachers, it is the interaction between teachers and students that is the essence of schools' . What difference can teachers make and what are the key messages from educational literature and research? What are the key factors that lead to high quality student learning? Which teacher and leader mindsets enhance a strong professional learning culture? Something I'm very interested in is creating a professional learning culture. How do you suggest listeners can enhance their PLC? Lesson observation and evaluation remains controversial , could you tell listeners about your lesson evaluation toolkit and the 'instructional model' suggested by Peter Cole? How important is lesson planning and how do you suggest using the lesson evaluation toolkit to support lesson planning? TDT Section  Michelle interviews Maria on the use of expert knowledge . http://tdtrust.org/ Lockdown Learning  This week it is Kraftwerk's Computer World, Dickens (again) with David Copperfield and NO film review! Coming up Katie Ashford and Pritsesh Raichura on the new Michaela book 'The Power of Culture'  John Tomsett on 'Putting Staff First'  The Naylors Natter app! Download it here to keep up to date with all episodes, blogs and updates https://3787413.igen.app/
This week we are treating you the listeners to another bumper double edition. We are delighted to have interviews with the authors of 2 new education books , namely Alex Quigley and Dr Catherine Lee . Alex is interviewed by Bernie Kaye, a fantastic new addition to our NN team , Bernie is an English teaching uber geek with a passion for cooking, reading and festival going. AHT - ITT, research & literacy. We have all our usual features including  our TDT section http://tdtrust.org/and Lockdown Learning.  About Alex I am National Content Manager at the EEF, supporting teachers to access research evidence. After over fifteen years in the classroom, I now support from outside the school gates. Closing the reading gap  So, what is the reading gap? It is a teacher knowledge gap, but more importantly, it is the gap that exists between reading access, reading practice and reading ability for the pupils in our schools. It marks out the ‘reading rich’ and the ‘reading poor’ populate all of our schools. The gap is writ large when we explore the evidence. Take reading access. Recent research from the National Literacy Trust shows that 1 in 11 children own a book of their own. A mere 1 in 8 disadvantaged children own a book. I think about the impact of those empty bookshelves (in all likelihood, there is no bookshelf at all) for pupils. Then when you explore school attainment, you can see the gap and the daily damage that is suffered by many pupils. When you consider that only 73% of pupils leaving primary school reached the expected level for reading in 2019, it is clear that many of those pupils will struggle to access the secondary school curriculum. I never expected two years ago that this book would be published during a global crisis that would see pupils impacted by school closures. When you wed closures to limited book access, limited teaching, along with limited support at home, the prospect for the reading gap is massively challenging. I hope that this book – and the free related resources – offer some useful guidance for teachers and schools during this challenging time. It should provide handy CPD, now and as schools bounce back to support our pupils. You can purchase the book from the following. Amazon link HERE You can find 5 free resources to go with the book on my RESOURCES page HERE. About Catherine UK Pride Power List 2019. Diva Award finalist 2020. Deputy Dean at Anglia Ruskin University. Courageous Leaders  We are all at our most effective when we can be ourselves at work, but more than half of LGBT teachers hide their sexual identity within their school workplace. For LGBT teachers, vigilance, concealment and assimilation, take a great deal of energy, on top of what is already a very demanding job. Through personal testimonies, advice and a rousing call to arms, this book shows how LGBT School Leaders are often amongst the most inclusive, creative, adaptable and intuitive colleagues, when they are able to flourish and be their authentic selves.  The book is available here: https://www.johncattbookshop.com/courage-in-the-classroom Coming Soon- John Tomsett and The Power of Culture by Michaela School   promo code of PSF40 for listeners to get 40% off Putting Staff First by John and Jonny Utley , our previous guest . 
A special double edition this week featuring Martyn and Molly . Martyn's natter is PRE lockdown (Feb half-term) and Molly's is a lockdown recording Martyn Reah : about Martyn in his own words:https://martynreah.wordpress.com/about/ After 20 years of working as a teacher I have decided to put pen to paper and record the things which interest me and hopefully others. Born in Chester and brought up in Sunderland I now call Petersfield home. After starting my career in the East Midlands promotion moved me north to Yorkshire. Family commitments dragged me kicking and screaming south to Hampshire where my four children keep me busy with some spare time available for enjoying sport. The natter: 1) journey to this point gentle intro - from 1994 and a roller chalk board to 2020 !  2) tell us about the origins of #teacher5aday and the need for the movement  3) could you take listeners through each of 5 areas ?  4) this year saw the first #teacher5aday week in December . Could you share with us some of the activities that took place and who was involved? 5) how could/should leaders involve #teacher5aday in their schools? 6) what is a slow chat and how can listeners get involved ?  7) what is the #pledge ?  8) you now have a steering group , who is involved and what is their remit ?  9) pedagoohampshire has been a big success for a few years now . Is it back again this year and who’s speaking?  10) are you still running every day? Some achievement!! 11) could you signpost listeners to your blog/website etc ? Molly: about Molly @Mimmer in her own words :https://mimmerr.co.uk/ Molly, 20-something Londoner, teacher. I write about fashion ethics, music, education, social inequality and TV. Press & business: Email: molly@mimmerr.co.uk  Twitter: @mimmerr. The natter: Music is a big part of my life and we have a weekly section (which you kindly contributed to last week) tell listeners who you think are worth the hype and does me liking arcade fire make me an ageing hipster ?Could you tell listeners about your folding paper project , what is your aim with this and how can listeners get involved ?   You are also posting about a daily writing challenge , what themes have you explored so far ?   You are also an accomplished interviewer and have interviewed some leaders in education . I particularly enjoyed talk to teachers :tiny voices and tiny voice Tuesday . How do you (and Toria) think we can improve edutwitter ?Teacher workload is a topic we have returned to many times on here . Shouts to Kat Howard and Martyn Reah who’ve done great work in this area . What do you think is causing teacher workload and what can we do ? Also do you think the current situation has created more unnecessary workload for staff ?   Where can listeners find out more ? Signpost to social media ( tumblr for example may be new to some ?) . TDT Section- Maria and Michelle on Needs Analysis Lockdown learning  Books- Robert Webb Music-Pole Film- The Astronaut John Catt- upcoming episodes featuring 'The Teaching Delusion' and 'Courage in the Classroom' available with #naylorsnatter discount here :https://www.johncattbookshop.com/ Next week- Alex Quigley 
This week sees a welcome return to the interviewers chair for Emma Turner . This week she is in conversation with Neil Gilbride and they are discussing all things leadership. This interview was recorded on 16th March in a pre-lockdown UK so please be aware of that when listening.  About Neil in his own words: I am currently a PhD student at the University of Bath, Lecturer in Education at the University of Gloucestershire and consultant with Neil Gilbride Consultancy. I have a unique, multi-sector experience as both a practitioner and researcher. I have over 12 years professional experience across the public, voluntary and private sectors as a teacher, researcher, middle leader, school social worker, carer, counsellor and governor.   My academic background is equally diverse – stretching from Biomedical Science, Special Educational Needs through to the Leadership Development and Organisational Behaviour. In working with individuals and organisations,  my multi-disciplinary background delivers new insights and fresh ways of thinking. Primarily, I am a psychologist. In my work, I apply the principles of psychology to leadership, people development, inclusion and organisational behaviour.  My cutting-edge research is looking at the role adult development plays in how leaders think, feel and behave. Please go to the ‘ego development‘ page to find out more. I am available for consultancy through my business, Neil Gilbride Consulting. Please do click here to see what I might have to offer you and your organisation. Lockdown Learning (previously Podcast Pedagogy) In music- Gerry Cinnamon's 'The Bonny' on Vinyl  Films on streaming - 'Trolls World Tour' Books- A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens Shameless Plugs from our partners and sponsors  TDT connectUp is a great resource with some amazing speakers - http://tdtrust.org/cpdconnectup John Catt bookshop has some amazing new titles in stock and #naylorsnatter mentions in a tweet will unlock your discount code  https://www.johncattbookshop.com/ ResearchEd Home is the place to be at 11am if you can get on! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1awWjuY1Jb4 As ever , if you would like to be part of the show as a lockdown learner or as a guest , please get in touch via our website www.naylorsnatter.co.uk or email p3nay91@gmail.com  See you next week! Phil 
This week I am back in the interviewers chair to have a natter with 2 titans of education namely: Paul A. Kirschner is Emeritus Professor of Educational Psychology at the Open University of the Netherlands as well as Guest Professor at the Thomas More University of Applied Science in Belgium. Carl Hendrick teaches at Wellington College, UK, and holds a PhD in Education from King’s College London. We are discussing their new book 'How Learning Happens- Seminal Works in Educational Psychology and what they mean in practice' . Here is Carl's introduction to the book:   "Almost two years ago, I was asked by Professor Paul Kirschner to write a book with him. The original title was ‘Standing on the Shoulders of Giants’ and the basic premise was to discuss what we felt were the foundational works in education psychology and present them to educators in a way that would hopefully inform their practice. To be asked by someone of Paul’s stature was a huge honour for me and I really enjoyed reading through almost 100 years of the best evidence on learning and the weekly meetings over Skype talking about the book (and football). The chapters are divided into six sections. In the first section we describe how our brains work and what that means for learning and teaching. This is followed by sections on the prerequisites for learning, how learning can be supported, teacher activities, and learning in context. When we got near the end of the book we thought it would be good to provide some cautionary tales so in the final section we discuss what can only be described as educational Novichok in a chapter called ‘The Seven Deadly Sins of Education’ which you can download for free here." It comes highly recommended! “So often I’ve been asked to recommend a starting text for educators interested in the workings of the mind―now I have one. The text Kirschner and Hendrick offer alongside each seminal article does a wonderful job of situating the content in the broader scientific context, and in the classroom.” – Daniel Willingham, Professor of Psychology and Director of Graduate Studies, University of Virginia “As the volume of research into psychology and education grows, it becomes ever harder for researchers, let alone teachers, to keep up with the latest findings. Moreover, striking results often turn out to be difficult, or impossible to replicate. What teachers need, therefore, is good guidance about research that has stood the test of time, and practical guidance about how these well-established findings might be used to inform teaching practice, and this is why this is such an extraordinary, wonderful and important book. Paul Kirschner and Carl Hendrick have selected the most important research publications in the psychology of education, and, for each publication, they have provided a summary of the research, the main conclusions, and a series of practical suggestions for how the findings might inform teaching practice. I know of no other book that provides such a rigorous, accessible and practical summary of the last fifty years of research in educational psychology, and anyone who wants to understand how research can improve teaching needs to read this book. Highly recommended.” – Dylan Wiliam, Emeritus Professor of Educational Assessment, University College London We also have Podcast pedagogy with The Strokes, Tiger King and Ulysses!
Welcome to this week's Naylor's Natter, hopefully capturing the Zeitgeist of the continuing school 'closures' and lockdown. This script is being written over lunch during one of my days in school , can I add my thanks to all teaching colleagues going over and above throughout the world.  On this weeks natter , we have the marvellous Kathryn Morgan again in the interviewers chair. Kathryn is nattering with Sir David Carter. Sir David is a former National Schools Commissioner, the first Regional Schools Commissioner for the South West and before that had taught Music in Comprehensive Schools across the country since he started teaching in September 1983. He received a Knighthood for services to education in the Queen's birthday honours in 2013. TDT Section We have Michelle and Bethan discussing online facilitation in our regular TDT section . This is of course very prescient and topical at the moment  PodcastPedagogy In television from streaming services during lockdown we have Lucy Flower @MrsLFlower https://thehappyleader.wordpress.com/ on Waterloo Road and the genius of Hey Dugee .In music we have Molly @mimmer https://mimmerr.co.uk/ on Tame Impalla and in books its me on Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Shameless plugs  A plug for ResearchEd Home which is a fabulous idea , coming to a device near you from 20/4 . This will be starting with the superb Daniel Willingham and will also feature our very own (well sort of) Simon Cox . Stay indoors , keep positive and see you next week!
Update - promo code of PSF40 for listeners to get 40% off Putting Staff First. Visit https://www.johncattbookshop.com/titles In this weeks natter , Kathryn is in conversation with Jonny on leadership and how it is vital at times like this. Podcast Pedagogy Music- 'Mixing Colours' - Roger Eno and Brian Eno Books- 'A Clergyman's Daughter' by George Orwell Streaming Services- 'Sunderland 'till I die' and The Body Coach Next week Sir David Carter  Stay in and stay safe everyone . Massive thank you to all educators, continuing to safeguard, provide and care for our pupils! #proudtoteach  www.naylorsnatter.co.uk
*******This week's interview was recorded some weeks ago so please bear that in mind when listening******* This week I am in conversation with Daisy Christodoulou . Daisy is  the Director of Education at No More Marking, a provider of online Comparative Judgement software for schools. Comparative Judgement is an innovative, reliable and quick way to assess essays. You can find out more about how it works on the No More Marking website. Before joining No More Marking, Daisy was Head of Assessment at Ark Schools, a group of academy schools in the UK, and before that, I was a secondary English teacher in London. Daisy has  written three books about education, Seven Myths about Education, Making Good Progress, and Teachers vs Tech. Find out more about them here. You can read more about Daisy in this profile from Schools Week and this one from the Guardian. You can contact Daisy via Twitter @daisychristo. We discuss: ch 1 - why hasn't ed tech succeeded in the way we would have liked in the past? * ch 2 - personalised learning - is this a good thing? * Ch 4 - what is flipped learning, should we all be doing it, if so why not? * ch 5 - what are the ups and downs of using devices to learn? * Ch 6 & 7 - what is so good about spaced repetition algorithms? Ch 7 - will robots ever take over from teachers?! * I'm a student / parent / teacher / SLT member and I really want to use tech to help learning - what should I do? We  also talk about comparative judgement and VAR Podcast pedagogy Books: We have a contribution from listener Natalie  TDT Section  Films: In lockdown, we are now looking at streamed movies . This week it is the Amazon streamed 'Blinded by the Light'  Music: I will be reviewing Dreamland by Alexis Ffrench . A much needed oasis of calm in a desert of uncertainty. We will be continuing with the podcast during these difficult and turbulent times. Stay safe out there listeners , we appreciate you being here!
This week sees the welcome return of Tom Sherrington to talk through his new book (with Oliver Caviglioli) entitled Teaching Walkthrus. Teaching Walkthrus are 5 step guides for instructional coaching. The natter: The first question is why? What are the reasons for the walkthrus? Secondly , what areas have you covered in the walkthru series? Into behaviour , how important are routines and how do the walkthrus and Oliver’s work help here?   With curriculum , How do you walkthru designing a knowledge rich curriculum and sequencing concepts in small steps? Tell listeners about how you and Oliver have drawn on the work of willingham , William, Berger and shimamura in the explanation and modelling section . Set out if you can , your suggested repertoire of effective questioning techniques?  Retrieval practice ? That’s just a quiz isn’t it ? Deliberately provocative question ! What is mode A and mode B teaching , readers of the learning rainforest will be aware of course . How can teachers listening weave mode A and B teaching into a cohesive whole ?  The how section includes guides on implementation. Could the book be used in an instructional coaching situation?   CPD cycles are mentioned , how important is it for leaders to map out cycles ?  Tell us about your launch at rED Blackpool Podcast pedagogy We are joined by Bruce Robertson giving listeners a sneak preview of 'The Teaching Delusion' , I will be reviewing classic film 'Coach Carter' and Four Tet's Sixteen Oceans in music. *****Listener discount code- WALK40 to get 40% off any quantity of Walkthru's up until the end of March********** https://www.johncattbookshop.com/teaching-walkthrus-five-step-guides-for-instructional-coaching
This weeks I am in conversation with Omar Akbar; Teacher, Author- The Unofficial Teacher's Manual: What they don't teach you in training; Bad School Leadership (and what to do about it) .  We are nattering about  school leadership, the good and the bad! This is a very positive podcast with some great takeaways. The natter From the introduction of the book , tell us a little bit about you and your 15 years teaching across 4 schools?   You say this book is about the mismanagement of the system , what do you mean by this and what can we do about this ?   You kick off the book with relationship building and Rick astley ....tell us how important relationships, empathy and communication are for leaders  Observations can be controversial but also useful , what are your www and Ebi here ?   Learning walks , deception walks and urine tests . How can we ensure visits to lessons are beneficial for all ?  Book scrutiny and deep dives , what is a secret dossier and how can leaders be more transparent?   Behaviour - when in doubt blame the teacher for not engaging the learners . Is this common and how do we support teachers with behaviour so they are empowered and not undermined ?   Meetings - what is a Botox meeting ?    How do we support NQTs so they end up like the one on that recruitment advert How important are unions and why should we stand by our unions ?    How does shift happen ? What can we do to achieve a new normal ? Let’s finish as you do with some myth busting! Share a couple with listeners ?   Where can we find out more ?  Useful links  https://theunofficialteachersmanual.blog/ John Catt sponsorship  Here is a code for the first week: POD30. If listeners enter that where prompted on the SHOPPING CART page (not the CHECKOUT - people often slip up with that!), they will get 30% off any order from JohnCatt.com until the next week’s show.
Cath Murray  now slays dragons for @csjthinktank leading on alternative provision. Content producer for @EducationFest. Formerly@SchoolsWeek&@FEWeek . We are in conversation about alternative provision and exclusions.  What is IntegratED? The IntegratED programme aims to reduce preventable school exclusions and improve the quality of alternative provision (AP) for pupils being educated outside of mainstream schools. Our work is broadly divided into two areas: Raising the profile of AP and exclusions; and Piloting models in schools and AP settings that prioritise whole-child development. Change The social change we want to see eventually is a reduction in the number of children excluded from schools, an increase in early remedial interventions for pupils who require them, and a greater focus on whole-child development across the school system. If AP is the best place for a child, we want to ensure they are given high-quality provision that helps them achieve their full potential. In all cases we wish to see young people graduate from secondary level to a positive tertiary destination, with sufficient skills, values, aptitudes, and capabilities to enable them to contribute to the common good. We are not saying that all exclusion should be stopped. We are saying: exclusions should be fair, and with the best interest of the child at heart; and if removed, children should be placed somewhere that can offer them a high-quality education that meets their needs. The natter  Firstly tell us about your career to this point and how you moved from schools week to slaying dragons!   What is integratED and which organisations are part of this coalition?   Tell us about your work for integratED and your vision for fewer exclusions and better alternative provision   The unexplained pupil exits from school published in October from the education policy institute is an important read , could you take listeners through the report and it’s key recommendations (policy, guidance etc)   The AP census is incredibly opaque as you state in the integratED blog , what constitutes AP? Why is there such huge disparity in different LAs ?   You recommend that the government should publish alongside its exclusion rates , a combined figure that accounts for all AP , tell listeners why this is important.  Is a managed move to AP better than a perm ex ?   How can we improve education for children removed from mainstream?   You are out presenting your work at conferences , where can listeners see you next ?   Could you signpost us to blog / twitter / website etc ? Exciting news!  Naylor's Natter in association with TDT is now sponsored by John Catt Edu. This means even more high quality interviews and for you the listeners , a chance to benefit with discounts on John Catt books . The sponsorship will also help move NN into America!  This weeks code: Here is a code for the first week: POD30. If listeners enter that where prompted on the SHOPPING CART page (not the CHECKOUT - people often slip up with that!), they will get 30% off any order from JohnCatt.com until the next week’s show. Next week: Omar Akbar on Bad School Leadership 
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