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2 Complicated 4 History is a show that examines the “deleted scenes” of history. In each episode, co-hosts Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by a different guest bringing a fresh perspective to the history you thought you knew.
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Jane E. Calvert to discuss the lesser known and under appreciated founder John Dickinson. Find out why Dickinson should be placed alongside the names Washington, Adams, and Jefferson in U.S. history books.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Sneak Peak/Introductions
2:22 - Why John Dickinson?
5:48 - Who Was John Dickinson
9:24 - How Prolific Was He?
22:46 - The Role of Ordinary People in the Revolution
29:15 - Dickinson’s Pen Name and Its Implications
41:24 - Drafting The Articles of Confederation
43:52 - A Man Who Had His Hand In Everything
45:19 - The One Person Who Brought The United States Into Being
53:29 - Dickinson’s Later Years and Legacy
58:39 - Where to Find Jane?
1:01:46 - Dickinson Sites To Visit
EPISODE LINKS:
Jane E. Calvert, PhD – https://www.drjaneecalvert.org
Penman of the Founding – A Biography of John Dickinson - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/penman-of-the-founding-9780197541692?cc=us&lang=en&
The John Dickinson Writings Project - https://www.jdproject.org
Quakers - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Society-of-Friends
Stamp Act – https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/stamp-act-1765
Letters from a Farmer in Pennsylvania - https://history.delaware.gov/john-dickinson-plantation/dickinsonletters/pennsylvania-farmer-letters/
Religion and the American Revolution - https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel03.html#:~:text=Religion%20played%20a%20major%20role,in%20the%20sight%20of%20God.
John Dickinson, Conservative Revolutionary - https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-american-studies/article/abs/milton-e-flower-john-dickinson-conservative-revolutionary-charlottesville-virginia-the-univ-press-of-virginia-for-the-friends-of-the-john-dickinson-mansion-1983-2750-pp-xii-338/597B92DD95F124DAB8EBB9DBD25EF68B
The Cost of Liberty: The Life of John Dickinson - https://www.regnery.com/9781684515479/cost-of-liberty/
Edmund Burke - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edmund-Burke-British-philosopher-and-statesman
John Adams - https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/John-Adams/David-McCullough/9780743223133
The Whig Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Whig-Party
Benjamin Lay - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/quaker-comet-greatest-abolitionist-never-heard-180964401/
John Woolman - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Woolman
Mary Norris Dickinson - https://www.womenhistoryblog.com/2011/05/mary-norris-dickinson.html
John Dickinson Plantation - https://www.nps.gov/frst/planyourvisit/john-dickinson-plantation.htm
Stenton - https://www.stenton.org
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Kathleen DuVal to discuss the history of Native Americans over a millennium. Dr. DuVal reveals history from natives’ perspectives, turning the well-known eurocentric view of world history on its head.
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0:00 - Introductions
1:25 - What Made You Decide to Take On Such a Large Timeline?
4:14 - Where Do You Start?
8:46 - Navigating The Correct Terminology
11:56 - What Was America Like in 1006?
15:03 - Major Differences? Animal husbandry?
16:18 - The Fallacy of European Advancement
18:01 - How Much Of This Work Overlapped with Archeology?
22:12 - Did Anything from the Pre-contact Period Change Your Perception of the Time?
25:21 - Anything From The Recent Centuries that Surprised You?
29:06 - How Did This Penetrate West Into The Continent
32:44 - The Historiography of Native History
35:55 - The Native Perspective On Their History
38:11 - The Importance of Telling These Stories
39:17 - Who Belongs: Race vs Citizenship
41:38 - Lynn’s Favorite Quote From the Book
44:45 - How Do You Deal With History That Isn’t What You Wished It to Be?
49:35 - Was Your Goal to Get People to Empathize?
53:39 - Historical (Web)Sites You Should Visit
56:07 - TV Shows & Films That Are Good Representations
57:23 - Where You Can Find Kathleen DuVal
EPISODE LINKS:
Kathleen DuVal – https://history.unc.edu/faculty-members/kathleen-duval/; https://kathleenduval.web.unc.edu
Native Nations: A Millennium in North America - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/575441/native-nations-by-kathleen-duval/#
1006 Supernova - https://www.nasa.gov/universe/supernova-remnant-sn-1006/
Medieval Warm Period - https://www.britannica.com/science/medieval-warm-period
Moundville Archeology – https://moundville.museums.ua.edu
Cherokee History – https://www.cherokee.org
Mohawk History – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mohawk
Colonialism – https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/colonialism/
Blood Quantum - https://nativegov.org/resources/blood-quantum-and-sovereignty-a-guide/
Settler Colonialism – https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/settler_colonialism#:~:text=The%20concept%20of%20settler%20colonialism,with%20a%20new%20settler%20population.
Ruth Muskrat - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/articles/read-a-speech-by-a-native-american-activist-from-the-early-1920s/
Jenny Tone-Pah-Hote – https://uncpress.org/book/9781469643663/crafting-an-indigenous-nation/
Reservation Dogs - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13623580/
Rutherford Falls - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11058054/
Resident Alien - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8690918/
Kathleen DuVal on X (formerly Twitter) - @KathleenADuVal
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Patrick Spero to discuss an obscure French scientist who became a spy in the newly formed United States. Who was Andres Michaux? And how did Thomas Jefferson participate in the conspiracy that history forgot?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introductions
4:08 - The Document That Inspired The Book
7:45 - Who was André Michaux
13:16 - André Michaux In America
16:28- André Michaux’s Most Daring Expedition
18:41- André Michaux’s Transforming Places Around The World
19:45 - André Michaux’s Setting His Sights West
21:23 - What Was The Pitching Process Like?
26:17 - A Bad Start
28:15 - The Policy Towards France and His Impact
31:54 - Did Anyone Else Know What He was Doing?
34:21 - Did Jefferson Know and What Happens Next?
37:56 - Are They Successful?
43:26 - How Does This Saga End?
47:17 - The Modern Day Conspiracy
48:46 - Did This Book Change Your Perspective on the Era?
51:09 - Where You Can Find Patrick
EPISODE LINKS:
Dr. Patrick Spero – http://www.patrickspero.com
Scientist Turned Spy: André Michaux, Thomas Jefferson, and the Conspiracy of 1793 - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/10032/
American Philosophical Society - https://www.amphilsoc.org/user/35
Andres Michaux Subscription List - https://www.amphilsoc.org/item-detail/michaux-expedition-subscription-list-0
Lewis and Clark Expedition - https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/lewis-clark
Michaux Botanical Garden, South Carolina - http://www.tipton-haynes.org/research/history/andre-michaux/
Michaux Botanical Garden, New Jersey - https://graphicarts.princeton.edu/2021/02/03/north-american-sylva-and-the-lost-garden-of-new-jersey/
North American journeys - https://www.michaux.org/journey.htm
Michaux in Canada - https://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/michaux_andre_5E.html
John Bartram - https://www.britannica.com/topic/American-Philosophical-Society
William Bartram - https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/william-bartram/
Benjamin Smith Barton - https://archives.upenn.edu/exhibits/penn-people/biography/benjamin-smith-barton/
David Rittenhouse - https://www.britannica.com/biography/David-Rittenhouse
Caspar Wistar - https://archives.upenn.edu/exhibits/penn-people/biography/caspar-wistar/
Benjamin Rush - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benjamin-Rush
Edmond Genet - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edmond-Charles-Genet
Citizen Genet Affair - https://www.britannica.com/event/Citizen-Genet-Affair
French Revolution - https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution
Monticello - https://www.monticello.org
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky to examine John Adams’ presidency and the peaceful transfer of power in the nascent United States. How has Adams’ legacy echoed through successive presidential administrations? And how did Adams secure the survival of the republic?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introductions
1:51 - Why Adams?
4:48 - What Do We Need to Know About Adams?
14:43 - How Did People React to Adams Winning the Election?
17:25 - Was Jefferson’s Election as Important?
20:31 - What Did Adams Do During His Presidency?
27:22 - Was Adams a Moderate?
30:42 - What We Remember About Adams’ Presidency
38:29 - Adams vs the Press
43:36 - How Did people Feel About Adams After His First Term?
46:26 - The Complexity of the Contested Election of 1800
52:21 - How Did the Second Election Go?
55:54 - Reflecting on January 6th and Peaceful Transfers of Power
1:02:52 - Where Can You Find Lindsay
EPISODE LINKS:
Lindsay M. Chervinsky - https://www.lindsaychervinsky.com
Making the Presidency - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/making-the-presidency-9780197653845?cc=us&lang=en&
Dr. Chervinsky’s newsletter - https://perfectunion.substack.com
The George Washington Presidential Library - https://www.mountvernon.org/library
George Washington’s Mount Vernon - https://www.mountvernon.org
Abigail Adams - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/abigail-adams
Thomas Hobbs - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Thomas-Hobbes
Franklin miniseries - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18351584/
John Jay - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Jay
“I am fairly out and you fairly in!” - https://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17970305ja
Democratic-Republican Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Republican-Party
Federalist Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Federalist-Party
Thomas Jefferson - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Thomas-Jefferson
Election of 1800 - https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/creating-the-united-states/election-of-1800.html
Alien and Sedition Acts - https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/alien-and-sedition-acts#:~:text=Passed%20in%20preparation%20for%20an,brink%20of%20war%20with%20France.
George H.W. Bush - https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-H-W-Bush
Noah Webster - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Noah-Webster-American-lexicographer
James A. Bayard -https://bioguideretro.congress.gov/Home/MemberDetails?memIndex=B000249
Samuel Smith - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-Smith
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Charles Fournier to discuss Ernest Hemingway, his constructed identity, and vernacular landscapes. Hemingway looked up to Theodore Roosevelt and a romanticized, masculine version of the West, but he put on an entirely different persona in Europe. Who was the genuine Hemingway?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introductions
1:41 - Why Ernest Hemingway?
7:25 - Learning More About Hemingway.
10:40 - Defining Vernacular Landscapes and Hemingway in the West
18:59 - What I Expected is Not What I Got When I Met Hemingway
10:49 - How Michael Became Interest in Oglethorpe
22:37 - The Tension Between Hemingway's Desire for Fame and Authenticity
32:21 - Persona vs Authenticity
37:44 - The Persistent Effect of His Persona and Is There Anyone Like Him Today?
43:01 - Writing Styles & The Mythos of the West
53:26 - Historical Sites in Wyoming
55:20 - Where You Can Find Charles
EPISODE LINKS:
Podcast: Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/those-who-cant-teach-anymore/id1646723683
Podcast: The Modern West - https://www.themodernwest.org
Look Out For: New Podcast with Diego Javier Luis!
Ernest Hemingway - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ernest-Hemingway
Hills Like White Elephants - https://jerrywbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Hills-Like-White-Elephants-Hemingway-Ernest.pdf
Big Two-Hearted River - https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/inourtime/section14/
A Moveable Feast – https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-moveable-feast-ernest-hemingway/1100213865
Langston Hughes – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Langston-Hughes
Hemingway and the Black Renaissance – https://ohiostatepress.org/books/titles/9780814211779.html
Gertrude Stein - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Gertrude-Stein
Ezra Pound - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ezra-Pound
James Joyce - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Joyce
F. Scott Fitzgerald - https://www.britannica.com/biography/F-Scott-Fitzgerald
Vernacular Landscapes - https://www.tclf.org/vernacular-landscapes
Owen Wister - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Owen-Wister
Edward Abbey - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Abbey
Zane Grey - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Zane-Grey
Old Man and the Sea - https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Old-Man-and-the-Sea-novel-by-Hemingway
Hemingway’s plane crashes - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hemingway-and-his-wife-survived-two-plane-crashes-just-one-day-apart-180982884/
Hemingway and World War I - https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2006/spring/hemingway.html
Hunter S. Thompson - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hunter-S-Thompson
Hemingway with fish - https://www.anglersjournal.com/saltwater/fighting-big-fish-with-ernest-hemingway
The Sun Also Rises - https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Sun-Also-Rises
Karen Russell - https://karenrussellauthor.com
Finnegans Wake - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Finnegans-Wake
Paul Cezanne - https://www.paulcezanne.org
Cheyenne Frontier Days - https://cfdrodeo.com
Empire, Wyoming - https://www.nps.gov/places/empire-wyoming.htm
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Michael L. Thurmond to discuss James Oglethorpe, the founder of the only British American colony that prohibited chattel slavery prior to the Revolutionary War. Oglethorpe should be considered a founding father; so why is he largely forgotten today?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introductions
1:42 - Who is James Oglethorpe
2:33 - How is James Oglethorp Taught in Georgia Schools?
6:19 - The Known Immorality Around Chattel Slavery
9:18 - Anti-Slavery vs Abolitionist Views
10:49 - How Michael Became Interest in Oglethorpe
14:08 - Digging Deeper
16:08 - What Sources Did Michael Use?
19:03 - What Did The Letter Say!?!?
21:40 - Oglethorpe’s Anti-Slavery Motivations
24:06 - Religiosity and Slavery
30:00 - Dr. Thomas Bray and the Bray Schools
32:55 - John Wesley and the Methodist Church
34:00 - How Did the Legal Status of Slavery Change in Georgia?
38:33 - Oglethorpe’s Legacy, The Lost Cause and the Reaction to the Book
47:05 - They Knew
50:52 - Acknowledging Our Mistakes and Being Better
59:14 - Where You can Find Michael
EPISODE LINKS:
Micheal L. Thurmond - https://michaelthurmond.net
James Oglethorpe, Father of Georgia: A Founder’s Journey from Slave Trader to Abolitionist - https://ugapress.org/book/9780820366043/james-oglethorpe-father-of-georgia/
James E. Oglethorpe - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Edward-Oglethorpe
Abolitionism – https://www.britannica.com/topic/abolitionism-European-and-American-social-movement
Georgia history – https://www.britannica.com/place/Georgia-state
Cranham Hall – https://digitalcollections.library.gsu.edu/digital/collection/ajc/id/720/
All Saints – https://allsaintschurchcranham.co.uk/history/
Royal African Company – https://transcription.si.edu/project/29682
Ayuba Suleiman Diallo (Job Ben Soloman) – https://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/bluett/summary.html
Anti-slavery and religion – https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african-american-odyssey/abolition.html
Bray Schools – https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/associates-of-dr-bray/
John Wesley – https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Wesley
Battle of Bloody Marsh – https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/battle-of-bloody-marsh/
Granville Sharp – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Granville-Sharp
Olaudah Equiano – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Olaudah-Equiano
Hannah More – https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hannah-more-a-woman-of-letters/
The Lost Cause – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lost-Cause
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Tore Olsson to explore the wildly popular video game Red Dead Redemption 2. How does it reflect the history of the West, a world of the first megacorporations, the labor movement, and infamous characters like Jesse James? And what can we learn from it today?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
3:10 - How Historically Accurate is Red Dead Redemption?
8:45 - Biggest Inaccuracies
14:44 - Disputes Over Capitalism
17:06 - Defining the American West
18:43 - How Did This Become a College Course?
30:44 - Was the Course Effective?
32:51 - History Has a Lot of Lore and Crafting a Book
34:40 - 1893 World’s Columbian Exposition
41:37 - The Anxiety of a Changing System and Losing Masculinity
45:56 - TR’s Obsession with American Masculinity
47:40 - The Role of the Transcontinental Railroad
51:15 - Who Were the Pinkertons?
55:41 - The Southern Stories
01:00:35 - The Fictionalization of the Time Period
01:03:01 - Audiobook Version!
01:04:46 - Historic Sites to Visit and Where you can find Tore
EPISODE LINKS:
Tore Olsson – https://history.utk.edu/person/olsson-tore/
Red Dead's History: A Video Game, an Obsession, and America's Violent Past – https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250287700/reddeadshistory
Audiobook - https://www.audible.com/pd/Red-Deads-History-Audiobook/B0CKM6FB83
Red Dead Redemption 2 – https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/red-dead-redemption-2
Pinkerton Detective Agency – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pinkerton-National-Detective-Agency
Labor Movement – https://www.loc.gov/collections/american-federation-of-labor-records/articles-and-essays/timeline/
Jesse James – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesse-James-and-Frank-James
Wild Bill Hickok – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Wild-Bill-Hickok
John D. Rockefeller – https://www.britannica.com/money/John-D-Rockefeller
Dr. Olsson’s class - https://history.utk.edu/tore-olsson-in-the-conversation-why-i-turned-the-red-dead-redemption-ii-video-game-into-a-history-class-on-americas-violent-past/
Oregon Trail – https://oregontrail.ws
Chicago World’s Fair – https://www.britannica.com/event/Worlds-Columbian-Exposition
Frederick Jackson Turner – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Frederick-Jackson-Turner
Theodore Roosevelt – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Theodore-Roosevelt
History of “Dude” – https://blog.oup.com/2022/12/dude-a-long-history-of-a-short-word/
Allen Pinkerton – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Allan-Pinkerton
Lynching of Sicilians in New Orleans – https://egrove.olemiss.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1148&context=hon_thesis
Deadwood, South Dakota – https://www.deadwood.com/
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Christian McWhirter to explore the world of music during the American Civil War. We still know many of the popular songs today; but what did they mean to soldiers and civilians of the 1860s? And what does Abraham Lincoln’s taste in music say about him and his era?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
3:53 - The Music Industry During the Civil War
7:56 - What Happened to The Harpsichord?
10:17 - The History of Songs We Know Today from the Civil War
19:31 - Communal and Individual Music
22:09 - Did the Civil War Make Music More Political?
27:10 - Minstrelsy and Black Music in the South
41:34 - The Importance of Cultural Context
44:48 - Lincoln’s Relationship with Music
55:25 - Lincoln’s Engagement with Black Music
1:00:40 - What Historic Sites You Should Visit
1:05:45 - Where to Find Dr. McWhirter?
EPISODE LINKS:.
Battle Hymns: The Power and Popularity of Music in the Civil War – https://uncpress.org/book/9781469613673/battle-hymns/
Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum - https://presidentlincoln.illinois.gov
Dixie lyrics – https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-dixie
The Battle Cry of Freedom - https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-battle-cry-freedom-southern-version
The Battle Hymn of the Republic – https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-battle-hymn-republic
Marching Through George – https://digitalcommons.conncoll.edu/sheetmusic/898/
John Brown’s Body – https://history.iowa.gov/history/education/educator-resources/primary-source-sets/abolitionist-movement/john-browns-body-song
Bonnie Blue Flag - https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-bonnie-blue-flag
Just Before the Battle Mother - https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-just-battle-mother
Stephen Foster - https://songofamerica.net/song/camptown-races/
Oh, Susanna – https://songofamerica.net/song/oh-susanna/
Camptown Races – https://songofamerica.net/song/camptown-races/
Mad Men Minstrel Episode - https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/mad-men-blackface-episode-roger-sterling-don-draper-imdb-tv-a9596921.html
American Discord: The Republic and Its People in the Civil War Era - Chapter regarding music about Lincoln – https://lsupress.org/9780807169698/american-discord/
Abraham Lincoln to Mary Lincoln, 2 July 1848 - https://papersofabrahamlincoln.org/documents/D200505
They Knew Lincoln - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/they-knew-lincoln-9780190270964?cc=se&lang=en&
ALPLM Blog - https://presidentlincoln.illinois.gov/blog
Edwards Place - https://www.edwardsplace.org
Dana-Thomas House - https://dana-thomas.org
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Lucy Smith to explore the history of dentistry and the evolving meanings that humans have projected onto this part of the body. How were teeth extracted before dentists—and before Novocain? When did “perfect” teeth become so important? And what in the world were George Washington’s dentures made of, if not wood?
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0:00 - Introductions
3:23 - Why Teeth?
5:20 - Were George Washington’s Teeth Wood?
9:52 - The Concerns Around Tooth Aches
11:18 - Have People Always Felt This Way About Teeth?
18:21 - Dental Care Before Dentists
25:27 - Anesthetic?
27:18 - When Did Teeth Start to Matter?
32:22 - Teeth and Being a Good American
37:49 - Losing Teeth
39:46 - What Were The Dentures Made of?
45:39 - Where Were All the Teeth Coming From?
1:00:00 - Historic Sites to Visit
1:03:55 - Where You can Find Lucy
EPISODE LINKS:
University of Michigan graduate history department – https://lsa.umich.edu/history/graduates/lucy-smith--st--louis--mo.html
Contact information – https://lsa.umich.edu/history/people/graduate-students/lksmit.html
Michael Twitty – https://afroculinaria.com/about/
George Washington’s dentures – https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/washingtons-teeth
Caravaggio, The Tooth-Drawer – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caravaggio,_Michelangelo_Merisi_da_-_The_Tooth-Drawer-_1607-09.jpg
Josiah Wedgewood – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Josiah-Wedgwood
Ivory Waterloo teeth – https://www.vanleestantiques.com/product/ivory-artificial-waterloo-teeth-c-1800/
False Teeth – https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/false-teeth
John Greenwood – https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/john-greenwood-1760-1819
A Famine of Cadavers episode – https://open.spotify.com/episode/4yF0H8gf2tn3IvJRXQtO3D?si=6d2ccb7338624caa
National Dentistry Museum – https://www.dentalmuseum.com
Brown Bag Lunch featuring Library Fellow Lucy Smith - https://www.youtube.com/live/X7F_3l0o_fQ?si=bjIia_ZuqvoT12V6
Lunch and Learn: Mouth to Mouth: The Tooth Trade in Washington’s World – https://youtu.be/lfyyQ43Z5Cw?si=HaK4zUAWgoSVKnnK
The Object of History Podcast episode: “Holding the Atlantic World in his Mouth”: George Washington, an MHS Portrait, and the Culture of Teeth in the 18th Century – https://www.masshist.org/podcast/season-3-episode-1-washingtons-teeth
The Costs of an All-American Smile – https://rackham.umich.edu/discover-rackham/allamericansmile/
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. John A. Ragosta to discuss the transition of Patrick Henry from Revolutionary Firebrand to Federalist candidate. Did the hyperpartisanship of the 1790s fuel this apparent switch? And did it also prevent the newly created United States from plunging into a civil war?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:57 - How Close We Were to a Civil War in the 1790s
3:03 - The Instability and Conflict in the Early U.S.
5:45 - Who is Patrick Henry
10:00 - Henry as an Anti-Federalist
11:56 - British Monarchy versus Elected U.S. Federal Government
16:15 - Response to “Federalist” Henry
20:07 - Virgnians vs Virgnians
23:48 - Thomas Jefferson in Charge
25:08 - Clarifying the Timeline
27:40 - What Stops a Civil War?
30:17 - Union Above All Else
32:07 - Figuring it Out Without George Washington
35:26 - Thomas Jefferson vs Patrick Henry
43:32 - Lynn’s Theory on Why Thomas Jefferson hated Patrick Henry
46:48 - Political Policy Versus Political Rhetoric
52:23 - Where Would We Be if Henry Had Lived?
53:57 - The Importance of Understanding Context in Our Current System
57:02 - Knowing Your History Makes You a Better Citizen
1:00:25 - Where You Can Find John
EPISODE LINKS:.
Dr. Ragosta’s Upcoming Talks - https://www.johnaragosta.com/presentations
For The People, For The Country: Patrick Henry’s Final Political Battle - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5846/
Patrick Henry’s Scotchtown - https://preservationvirginia.org/historic-sites/patrick-henrys-scotchtown/
Alien and Sedition Acts - https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/alien-and-sedition-acts#:~:text=Passed%20in%20preparation%20for%20an,brink%20of%20war%20with%20France.
Democratic-Republican Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Republican-Party
Federalist Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Federalist-Party
Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions - https://www.britannica.com/event/Virginia-and-Kentucky-Resolutions
Conway Cabal - https://www.worldhistory.org/Conway_Cabal/
Anti-Federalists - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anti-Federalists
Nullification Crisis - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Nullification-Crisis
The Supremacy Clause - https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artVI-C2-1/ALDE_00013395/
John Marshall - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Marshall
Thomas Jefferson’s First Inaugural Address - https://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/jefinau1.asp
Missouri Compromise - https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/missouri-compromise
George Washington to Patrick Henry, January 15, 1799 - https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/06-03-02-0225
John Randolph of Roanoke - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Randolph-American-politician
Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, December 8, 1784 - https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-08-02-0095
Governor Jefferson avoids British capture - https://www.monticello.org/research-education/thomas-jefferson-encyclopedia/jack-jouetts-ride/
Gerrymandering - https://www.britannica.com/topic/gerrymandering
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Heather Haley to discuss sexuality and the military during the Cold War. A new "ideal of American morality” resulted in federal purges of gay men, lesbians, and bisexuals that became known as the Lavender Scare. How did the individuals affected fight back?
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
0:37 - How Dr. Haley Choose this Topic
6:24 - A note to Graduate Students in the Humanities from Lynn
7:45 - Understanding the Terminology
11:05 -Where did the Term Lavender Scare Come From?
16:59 - Why Now? What Brought This On?
21:21 - LGBTQ as a Security Risk
26:57 - Are There Any Actual Instances of Someone Being Compromised?
33:45 - The Crittenden Report
35:33 - Vernon Berg and Lawrence Gibson
43:17 - Interrogation Tactics and Intimidation
52:19 - Good Order and Discipline: Incentivised Outing
58:26 - Who Is Making These Policies
1:00:38 - The Importance of Getting it Right, Dr. Haley’s Book, and Being Nice to Archivists
1:06:17 - Where You Can Find Dr. Haley
EPISODE LINKS:.
Dr. Heather M. Haley – Twitter @GALLIFRAEAN
Women Also Know History - https://womenalsoknowhistory.com/individual-scholar-page/?pdb=58
The Straight State: Sexuality and Citizenship in Twentieth-Century America, Margot Canaday - https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691149936/the-straight-state
The Lavender Scare - https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2016/summer/lavender.html
Vernon E. Berg III and Lawrence Gibson - https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/copy-berg/
Susan Stryker - https://www.susanstryker.net/about
Christine Jorgensen - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Christine-Jorgensen
Joseph McCarthy - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-McCarthy
The Lavender Scare: The Cold War Persecution of Gays and Lesbians in the Federal Government, David K. Johnson - https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/L/bo193960577.html
Oppenheimer – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/
Hidden Figures - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4846340/
Marilyn Monroe in WWII - https://americangimuseum.org/marilyn-monroe-in-world-war-ii/
The Deviant's War: The Homosexual vs. the United States of America, Eric Cervini - https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374139797/thedeviantswar
Crittenden Report - https://archive.org/details/gay-history-us-crittenden-report-1957
Get off my ship: Ensign Berg vs. the U.S. Navy, E. Lawrence Gibson - https://archive.org/details/getoffmyshipensi00gibs
Harvey Milk - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Harvey-Milk
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Jason Herbert to talk about Florida and Seminole history, the role of cattle in identity formation, and where the first cowpeople existed in the United States. Hint: It wasn’t in the Wild West!
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0:00 - Introduction
4:42 - Florida: A Remarkable Place
5:43 - Cattle Ranching...A Product of FL?
7:33 - Explaining Seminole, Alachua and the First Cow People
12:48 - Cattle Origins in FL: The Charismatic Megafauna
21:09 - The First Cowboys in Florida
22:14 - Feral Cattle
22:33 - The Story of Cowkeeper and the Alachua Communities
25:41 - The Seminolization of Florida
26:57 - From Cow Hunting to Cow Ranching: The Impact of Cattle in Florida
38:38 - The Emergence of the Term 'Cracker' and its Significance in Florida
48:37 - Impacts on Native Peoples in Florida
51:55 - How Jason Came Across This Story
54:33 - Reflecting on the Seminole Wars
58:41 - Floridians as Cow People Even Today
1:06:13 - Exploring Florida's Cattle History: Key Locations
1:09:58 - Where You Can Find Jason
EPISODE LINKS:
Jason Herbert – https://jasonherbert.substack.com
Historians at the Movies – https://www.historiansatthemovies.com
Jason on X and Instagram - @HERBERTHISTORY
Deseret Ranch, Florida - https://www.deseretranches.com
Seminole tribe of Florida – https://www.semtribe.com
Miccosukee tribe of Florida – https://miccosukee.com/miccosukee-tribe-history/
Moses Jumper, Jr. – https://seminoletribune.org/q-and-a-with-moses-bigg-shot-jumper-jr/
Dan Flores - https://projectcoyote.org/about/ambassadors/dan-flores/
Juan Ponce de Leon – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Ponce-de-Leon
Creatures of Empire – https://global.oup.com/academic/product/creatures-of-empire-9780195304466?cc=us&lang=en&
Andalusia, Spain – https://www.britannica.com/place/Andalusia-region-Spain
Hernando de Soto – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hernando-de-Soto
Creek – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Creek-people
The Creek War – https://www.britannica.com/event/Creek-War
Panton, Leslie & Company – https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/panton-leslie-company/
William Bartram – https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/naturalists/bartram/
Patriot War – https://www.jaxhistory.org/patriot-war-1812/
Seminole Wars – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Seminole-Wars
Florida Cracker Trading Company – https://www.floridacrackerstyle.com
The Land Remembered – https://alandremembered.com
Armed Occupation Act of 1842 – https://myfloridahistory.org/date-in-history/august-04-1842/armed-occupation-act
Osceola – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Osceola-Seminole-leader
Micanopy, Florida – https://micanopytown.com
Paynes Prairie Preserve State Park – https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/paynes-prairie-preserve-state-park
Big Cypress Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/big-cypress-reservation
Everglades National Park – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm
Brooksville, Florida – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm
Lake Placid – https://www.lakeplacidfl.net
Highlands County, Florida – https://www.highlandsfl.gov
Brighton Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/brighton-reservation
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by John Smith to discuss the unknown side of Abigail Adams. What made this first lady and mother of a president tick? Her letters reveal a saucier side never before seen.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:42 - Choosing Abigail Adams as a Subject
6:38 - How did John and Abigail Meet?
9:29 - Abigail’s Stubbornness
11:01 - Abigail's Letters and the Importance of Primary Sources
15:54 - The 'Remember the Ladies' Letter
22:47 - The Importance of Women's Education
27:53 - Abigail’s Connections
34:11 - Hating Alexander Hamilton
34:59 - Abigail's Practice of Physiognomy
36:49 - Abigail’s Sailor Mouth
38:46 - Abigail's Controlling Nature
41:45 - Things You Definitely Don’t Know About Abigail Adams
50:11 - Abigail as First Lady and John's Chief of Staff
54:09 - Where you can find the book and John
EPISODE LINKS:
The Unexpected Abigail Adams: A Woman “Not Apt to Be Intimidated”- https://www.westholmepublishing.com/book/abigail-adams-smith/
Abigail Adams - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/abigail-adams
John Adams HBO Miniseries - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472027/
John Adams - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Adams-president-of-United-States
Rheumatic Fever - https://www.cdc.gov/groupastrep/diseases-public/rheumatic-fever.html#:~:text=Rheumatic%20fever%20is%20a%20condition,important%20in%20fighting%20off%20infections.
Charles Francis Adams, Sr. - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Francis-Adams
Founders Online – https://founders.archives.gov
Massachusetts Historical Society - https://www.masshist.org
Abigail to John Adams, 1776, “Remember the Ladies” - https://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17760331aa
Mercy Otis Warren - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/mercy-otis-warren
Sally Hemings - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sally-Hemings
Benjamin Franklin - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benjamin-Franklin
Samuel Adams - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-Adams
Alexander Hamilton - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Alexander-Hamilton-United-States-statesman
Physiognomy - https://www.britannica.com/topic/physiognomy-divination
Patience Wright - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Patience-Wright
Bohemia - https://www.britannica.com/place/Bohemia
John Quincy Adams - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Quincy-Adams
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Paul Cooper, a podcaster and author who examines the rise and fall of civilizations throughout history. What led to the ultimate collapse of previously successful civilizations, and are we making any of those same mistakes today?
TRANSCRIPT: coming soon
OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
4:01 - The Inception of The Fall of Civilizations Podcast
6:56 - How Do You Define A Civilization?
7:54 - Paul’s Style of Presenting History
13:25 - How Paul Found Himself in Saddam Hussein’s Palace
16:05 - Babylon Reimagined Through History
18:12 - Finding Materials for the Next Episode
21:13 - Choosing What to Include
27:26 - Production Challenges and his Process
28:37 - The Book vs The Podcast
30:34 - How Can We Make History More Engaging
35:54 - How Paul Got Into History
40:20 - Paul’s Favorite Archive Story
45:31 - Why Something Didn’t Make It into the Book
47:29 - The Value of Studying History
57:08 - History is Not Linear
1:02:11 - Favorite Apocalypse
EPISODE LINKS:
Paul M.M. Cooper - https://www.paulmmcooper.com
Fall of Civilizations: Stories of Greatness and Decline - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/fall-of-civilizations-stories-of-greatness-and-decline-paul-cooper/7592286?ean=9780715655009
YouTube Channel - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR7yrLMHm11Xv2FOeHtuhern2tYm_Yd0H&feature=shared
Byzantine Empire - https://www.britannica.com/place/Byzantine-Empire
Babylonia - https://www.britannica.com/place/Babylonia
British Library - https://www.bl.uk
Mesopotamia – https://www.britannica.com/place/Mesopotamia-historical-region-Asia
Assyria - https://www.britannica.com/place/Assyria
Inca - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Inca
Twitter - @PaulMMCooper
Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/FallofCivilizations/
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Jim Gray, the great-grandson of Henry Roan who was murdered in the Reign of Terror as depicted in the movie “The Killers of the Flower Moon.” A former Osage chief, Gray offers his unique perspective of Native history, Hollywood portrayals of Indigenous peoples, his personal connection to a painful and understudied time in the history of the United States, and the ultimate triumph of the Osage people.
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0:00 - Historical Overview and Jim’s Perspective
7:38 - Allotment, Oil and Guadianships
13:29 - Restricted vs Unrestricted Allotments
17:00 - Osage Control, Tribal Governments and Boarding Schools
20:26 - How the Osage Viewed Allotments
22:01 - Henry Roan’s Legacy
33:02 - The Film’s Original Script and an Osage Dinner with Martin Scorsesse
46:11 - The Wedding Scene and Robert DeNiro Speaking Osage
53:11 - Living In Both Worlds…Even Today
57:58 - Jim’s Time as Chief
1:04:21 - Closing Thoughts and The Future of the Osage
EPISODE LINKS:
Osage Nation - https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov
Killers of the Flower Moon (Movie)- https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5537002/
Killers of the Flower Moon (Book) - https://www.davidgrann.com/books/#killers-of-the-flower-moon
Osage Primary Sources - https://www.archivesfoundation.org/newsletter/this-actually-happened/
Henry Roan - https://nativenewsonline.net/arts-entertainment/margo-gray-writes-a-poignant-letter-to-her-great-grandfather-one-of-the-murder-victims-portrayed-in-killers-of-the-flower-moon
The Osage "Reign of Terror" Murder Trials: An Account - https://www.famous-trials.com/osage-home/2378-the-osage-reign-of-terror-murder-trials-an-account
Osage Culture - https://www.osageculture.com/culture/multimedia-collections
Osage Oil Money - https://www.npr.org/2017/04/17/523964584/in-the-1920s-a-community-conspired-to-kill-native-americans-for-their-oil-money
1906 Osage Allotment Act - https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/news-events/news/osage-minerals-council-seeks-federal-legislation-facilitating-return-osage#:~:text=In%201906%2C%20the%20U.S.%20Congress,the%20Interior%20to%20create%20a
Native American Boarding Schools - https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/code-talkers/boarding-schools/
Deb Haaland - https://www.doi.gov/secretary-deb-haaland
Major Crimes Act - https://www.ovcttac.gov/saneguide/legal-and-ethical-foundations-for-sane-practice/tribal-law/#:~:text=The%20Major%20Crimes%20Act%2C%2018,%2C%20most%20sexual%20offenses%2C%20etc.
How the Osage Changed Martin Scorsese’s Mind - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-the-osage-changed-martin-scorseses-mind-180983094/
Osage Language - https://www.osageculture.com/language
Twitter - @JimGrayTweetz
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus welcome Dr. Michael Cullinane to discuss naming historical eras, the first modern president, influence as power, and third party politics. Has politics changed much in the last 120 years? Or at all?
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0:00 - Introduction
1:28 - What is the Gilded Age and The Progressive Era
7:40 - Theodore Roosevelt, How he defined the Age and What Progressive Meant
11:22 - Theodore Roosevelt Modernizing The Office
23:19 - Theodore Roosevelt Shaping the National Narrative
24:52 - Theodore Roosevelt's Tennis Cabinet
32:37 - Third Parties and the Bull Moose Party
40:30 - What Did TR Think of Wilson?
42:07 - Will a Third Party Ever Arise?
46:49 - We Have Been Here Before & TR’s Legacy
53:15 - Favorite TR's Story and the Historical Sites to Visit!
Professor of U.S. History and the Lowman Walton Chair of Theodore Roosevelt Studies at Dickinson State University in North Dakota.
Website - https://www.michaelpatrickcullinane.com
The Gilded Age and Progressive Era Podcast - https://www.michaelpatrickcullinane.com/podcast
Remembering Theodore Roosevelt: Reminiscences of His Contemporaries - https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-69296-4
Theodore Roosevelt's Ghost: The History and Memory of an American Icon - https://lsupress.org/9780807166727/
“Gild the Lily” - https://www.merriam-webster.com/word-of-the-day/gild%20the%20lily-2008-04-04
Theodore Roosevelt, Sr. - https://www.nps.gov/thrb/learn/historyculture/theodorerooseveltsr.htm
Franklin D. Roosevelt – https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/franklin-d-roosevelt/
William McKinley - https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/william-mckinley/
Theodore Roosevelt in the Spanish-American War - https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-theodore-roosevelt-rough-riders/introduction
Charles Darwin, On the Origin of Species - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Darwin/On-the-Origin-of-Species
TR’s Tennis Cabinet - https://www.loc.gov/item/2013650863/
Bull Moose Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Bull-Moose-Party
William Howard Taft - https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/william-howard-taft/
Woodrow Wilson - https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/presidents/woodrow-wilson/
Eugene V. Debs - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Eugene-V-Debs
History of the Teddy Bear - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/history-teddy-bear-once-seen-dangerous-influence-young-children-180983234/
TR Birthplace in Manhattan - https://www.nps.gov/thrb/index.htm
TR Island near D.C. - https://www.nps.gov/this/index.htm
Sagamore Hill, Home of TR - https://www.nps.gov/sahi/index.htm
TR Presidential Library (2026) - https://www.trlibrary.com
Theodore Roosevelt Center at Dickinson State University - https://www.theodorerooseveltcenter.org
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by George Washington’s Mount Vernon’s Dr. Douglas Bradburn to discuss the events that culminated in the Constitutional Convention and the ratification of the Constitution. The Articles of Confederation created a weak and loose connection among the states. Rather than amending them, the founders threw them out and imagined a new, stronger federal government. Do we understand the document in the same way today as its composers did in the eighteenth century?
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0:00 - Introduction
1:25 - The Articles of Confederation Explained
7:22 - What is The Critical Period
10:41 - The Origins of the US as a Confederation
12:16 - The American Revolution vs the Dutch Revolt
13:32 - The Strengths and Weaknesses of the Articles of Confederation
19:28 - The Impact of the Northwest Ordinance
24:16 - How we Amended The Articles of Confederation
27:10 - How did we get to the Constitutional Convention
36:35 - What Happened at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia
39:47 - The Executive Explained
51:57 - How They Changed the Constitution
55:17 - What is Nullification
1:04:38 - An Imperfect Solution to Governing
EPISODE LINKS:
George Washington’s Mount Vernon - https://www.mountvernon.org
Articles of Confederation - https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/articles-of-confederation
Continental Congress – https://history.state.gov/milestones/1776-1783/continental-congress#:~:text=The%20Continental%20Congress%20was%20the,years%20of%20the%20American%20Revolution.
Richard Henry Lee’s Resolution – https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/lee-resolution
Declaration of Independence - https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
Letters from a Farmer in Pennsylvania - https://history.delaware.gov/john-dickinson-plantation/dickinsonletters/pennsylvania-farmer-letters/
The “Critical Period” - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5655/#:~:text=The%20%22Critical%20Period%22%20of%20American,or%20the%20worst%20of%20times.
A Revolutionary Wave: Dutch and American Patriots in the Eighteenth-Century Atlantic World - https://escholarship.org/uc/item/1wd94067
The Northwest Ordinance - https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/northwest-ordinance#:~:text=The%20Northwest%20Ordinance%20chartered%20a,rights%20guaranteed%20in%20the%20territory.
The Potomac Company - https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/the-potomac-company/
The Virginia Plan - https://www.senate.gov/civics/common/generic/Virginia_Plan_item.htm#:~:text=Introduced%20to%20the%20Constitutional%20Convention,of%20Representatives)%20with%20proportional%20representation.
The Return of George Washington by Edward Larson - https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-return-of-george-washington-edward-j-larson?variant=32207581020194
The Whiskey Rebellion - https://www.britannica.com/event/Whiskey-Rebellion
Representation Debate in the Constitutional Convention - https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/senate-and-constitution/equal-state-representation.htm#:~:text=During%20the%20summer%20of%201787,in%20the%20House%20of%20Representatives.
Bill of Rights - https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights/what-does-it-say#:~:text=The%20Bill%20of%20Rights%20is,speech%2C%20press%2C%20and%20religion.
Nullification of Federal Laws - https://www.britannica.com/topic/nullification-crisis
Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions - https://www.britannica.com/event/Virginia-and-Kentucky-Resolutions
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Lorri Glover, an expert on a little-known woman entrepreneur of the eighteenth century. She had “schemes,” negotiated with men, made a fortune, and still fulfilled the era’s ideal of a mother and a woman. Why don’t we know more about her?
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0:00 - Intro
1:22 - Who was Eliza Lucas Pinckney
3:25 - Eliza's Upbringing and Sense of Self
5:56 - Absentee Landholders
6:57 - How Lorri Found Eliza and the Primary Sources She Used
11:42 - The Importance of Digital Humanities
14:17 - Eliza Developing Schemes
19:17 - The Dangers of Sugar Production And Eliza's View on Slavery
24:52 - Taking Over the Plantations
28:47 - Was Eliza a Typical Woman
32:52 - Indigo and Eliza’s Entrepreneurial Spirit
40:09 - Eliza's Marriage and Loss
45:18 - Eliza's Connection to London and Becoming a Patriot
48:22 - A Model of the Plantar Patriarch
52:01 - Favorite Eliza Story
54:36 - Eliza as a Religious Woman
57:55 - Who is Daniel Park
1:05:22 - Exploring Eliza’s Legacy: Historical Sites in South Carolina
EPISODE LINKS:
Lorri Glover, PhD - https://www.slu.edu/arts-and-sciences/history/faculty/glover-lorri.php
Eliza Lucas Pinckney: An Independent Woman in the Age of Revolution - https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300236118/eliza-lucas-pinckney/
Eliza Lucas Pinckney, Letters & Memoranda, 1740-1762 - https://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/becomingamer/peoples/text5/elizapinckney.pdf
Antigua - https://www.britannica.com/summary/Antigua-and-Barbuda
George Washington's Barbados Diary, 1751-52 - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5139/
All Our Relations: Blood Ties and Emotional Bonds Among the Early South Carolina Gentry - https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/89/1/207/689079
The Letterbook of Eliza Lucas Pinckney, 1739-1762 - https://uscpress.com/The-Letterbook-of-Eliza-Lucas-Pinckney-1739-1762
The Papers of Eliza Lucas Pinckney and Harriott Pinckney Horry - https://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/PinckneyHorry/
The Papers of the Revolutionary Era Pinckney Statesmen - https://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/PNKY.html
“Conservation Complete for the Eliza Lucas Pinckney Gown” – https://www.charlestonmuseum.org/news-events/conservation-complete-for-the-eliza-lucas-pinckney-gown/
The Charleston Museum - https://www.charlestonmuseum.org
Stono Rebellion - https://www.britannica.com/topic/insurrection-politics
The Great Awakening - https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Awakening
Indigo in South Carolina - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/indigo-making-comeback-south-carolina-180980987/
Charles Pinckney - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Pinckney
Daniel Parke - https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/parke-daniel-1669-1710/
John Custis IV gravestone - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/30234605/john-custis
Hampton Plantation - https://south-carolina-plantations.com/charleston/hampton.html
Rainbow Row, Charleston, S.C. - https://charleston.com/charleston-insider/lowcountry-lifestyles/the-captivating-history-of-rainbow-row
Thomas Pinckney Home - https://charleston.com/charleston-insider/diary-of-a-charleston-tour-guide/114-broad-street-colonel-thomas-pinckney-house
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Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Diego Javier Luis to discuss the first Asians in the Americas as part of Pacific World history. Free and unfree migration, six months of treacherous travel, and cultural uprooting defines the Asian experience in the Spanish Americas. Who were these emigrants, and what happened when they arrived in their new world?
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OUTLINE:
1:13 - Brief Description of the Book
2:43 - The Terminology and the Word “Chino”
9:29 - A Primary Source Nightmare
15:11 - Contextualizing the Time
18:10 - How Did People End Up on These Ships? Free and Forced Migration
26:28 - Why Isn’t This History More Emphasized?
30:31 - Cultural versus Assigned Identity – Racializing “Asians”
37:45 - The Structures within Spanish Colonial Society
44:36 - Chino Emancipation and Similarities to the Atlantic Slave Trade
48:57 - What You Need to Know about the Spanish Inquisition
53:51 - Catarina de San Juan
EPISODE LINKS:
Diego Javier Luis - https://as.tufts.edu/history/people/faculty/diego-luis
The First Asians in the Americas: A Transpacific History - https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674271784
Inquisition - https://www.britannica.com/topic/inquisition
Manila Galleons - https://www.britannica.com/technology/Manila-galleon
Atlantic World - https://history.illinois.edu/atlantic-world
Ethnolinguistics - https://www.britannica.com/science/ethnolinguistics
History of Pampagna - https://www.tagaloglang.com/history-of-pampanga
Caste And Class Structure In Colonial Spanish America - https://www.encyclopedia.com/humanities/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/caste-and-class-structure-colonial-spanish-america
Catarina de San Juan - https://thediplomat.com/2024/01/one-womans-journey-from-south-asia-to-mexico-and-from-slave-to-spiritual-icon/
The Conversation - https://theconversation.com/profiles/diego-javier-luis-1475619
Aeon magazine - https://aeon.co/users/diego-javier-luis
Smithsonian Folklife - https://folklife.si.edu/magazine/asian-history-oregon-no-no-boy-1603
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George Washington remains a presence in many sites across the United States, reflecting not only the past but who we are today. Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac Loftus welcome historian and archaeologist Philip Levy to examine the history, memory, and myths that surround the nation’s first founding father.
Relevant Links:
The Permanent Resident: Excavations and Explorations of George Washington’s Life by Philip Levy - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5491/
George Washington’s Mount Vernon – https://www.mountvernon.org
Ferry Farm - https://kenmore.org
Mason Locke Weems - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mason-Locke-Weems
Cherry Tree Myth - https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/cherry-tree-myth/
Benson Lossing - https://www.library.illinois.edu/rbx/2015/02/20/benson-lossing-artist-historian-author/
George Washington Birthplace - https://www.nps.gov/gewa/index.htm
History and Memory - https://commonplace.online/article/historians-and-memory/#:~:text=owned%2C%20history%20interpreted.-,Memory%20is%20passed%20down%20through%20generations%3B%20history%20is%20revised.,contexts%20in%20all%20their%20complexity.
Wig Curlers - https://livesandlegaciesblog.org/2017/09/22/how-many-curlers-did-a-harried-hairdresser-need-lets-do-the-math/
Betty Washington Lewis - https://encyclopediavirginia.org/11535hpr-a6fe6bc9be77d33/
Mary Ball Washington - https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/mary-ball-washington/
Yard Birds: The Lives and Times of America’s Urban Chickens by Philip Levy - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5315/
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