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Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages A question for you - who do you trust with your work? Whatever project you may be working on, it can’t be down just to you to bring it out into the world. You have to find the right champions; people who will play their necessary parts in creating, refining and sharing whatever it is that you’re building. As an author myself, it took me a while to find the right partners for my books. Eventually, I found the people I trust, and who understand what I’m trying to achieve. These are people who have my back. So, who has yours?  JeVon McCormick is the CEO of Scribe Media, and board member at Conscious Capitalism, Inc. He also works with The StartEdUp Foundation, where students pitch their entrepreneurial ideas for a chance at $25,000 and the opportunity to collaborate with the best-in-class people who can help them turn those ideas into a business. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  JeVon reads two pages from ‘Think and Grow Rich’ by Napoleon Hill. [reading begins at 21:19]   Hear us discuss:  “You can learn through negatives.” [5:50] | Reclaiming the power of your name: “Whatever we’re not changing, we’re choosing.” [9:14] | Finding peace with money. [31:17] | How fear taints leadership and corporate culture. [33:03] | “In most cases, when people use the word ‘fear,’ they are fearing something that may not even happen.” [36:53] | Balancing the need for individual action, and the need for community support. [43:32]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Two things I love about Whitney Johnson are her relentless drive for self-improvement, and her incredible generosity. As the CEO of WLJ Advisors, she aims to help you grow your people and your business. Whitney is best known for her book Disrupt Yourself, but today she’ll be reading from her first book Dare, Dream, Do: Remarkable Things Happen When You Dare to Dream. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Whitney reads two pages from her book ‘Dare, Dream, Do.’ [reading begins at 4:50]   Hear us discuss:  Dreaming with your beliefs in mind: “We do dream within the context of our values, but how do I know what my values are?” [2:02]  | The role of quotes in articulating your values: “Attaching a quote to something adds feeling, emotion and memory, and evokes so much more than individual words do.” [9:00] | A quote’s shelf life: Does it remain resonant over time? [12:54]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages When I first published The Advice Trap back in 2022, it was accompanied by a bonus course I created called ‘The Year of Living Brilliantly.’ Fifty-two different teachers, each teaching one powerful lesson on video. If you’ve been a participant, you’ll know today’s guest because his episode is one of the most popular. If you haven’t taken the course yet, you’re in luck - you’re about to meet one of its brilliant faculty members.  Bobby Herrera is the author of The Gift of Struggle, a short, excellent book on leadership, and the co-founder and President of Populus Group. Populus is Latin for ‘people,’ and that is absolutely where Bobby’s focus is. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Bobby reads two pages from ‘The Wisdom Pyramid’ by Brett McCracken. [reading begins at 8:44]   Hear us discuss:  Discerning what knowledge should be applied. [12:36] | “I’ve simply stopped focusing on anything that I can’t control.” [16:18] | How to both stand out and fit in. [18:39] | The art of surrendering power. [21:02] | Learning to sit with betrayal: “I’ve come to expect disappointment.” [23:30] | Remaining whole while being committed to giving: “Two’s a trend.” [27:08]
2 Pages with MBS is on holiday break until January 10th. I’m cheering you on for the rest of 2022 and into 2023. I hope the holiday break is restful, delightful, and renewing for you. I’ll be back with the next great interview on  2 Pages with MBS on January 10th! Follow Michael on | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube |  LinkedIn | Facebook
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I had two quite different experiences of a library when I was a child. My school’s librarian quite liked books but didn’t really like kids. I was basically scared away from that space. Luckily, my local library was a whole other adventure. There was the kid’s section upstairs where I could wander the stacks and find books I might like, and then came that moment when you go down and dip your toes into the grown-up section below, which opened up many new worlds. Books open up worlds, and libraries help you stumble over the books you never knew you would love, until you did.  Shariff Abdullah is the Director of the Commonway Institute, an organization that seeks to create a world that works for all. He’s well-educated, was a lawyer, is an author, has traveled the world, and has worked in over 120 different cultures across 45 different countries. It’s an impressive resume for someone who was raised in, according to Shariff, America’s worst city. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Shariff reads two pages from ‘The Timeless Way of Building’ by Christopher Alexander. [reading begins at 25:35]   Hear us discuss:  “When I was 8 years old, I not only figured out that there is something fundamentally wrong with our society, but that we can change it if we actually want to.” [2:50] | Maintaining an open-hearted perspective. [7:27] | Identifying and practicing your version of perfection: “There is a win for all, but if what I want in my world is for you to lose, we’ll never get to that point.” [32:16] | Living beyond our individuality. [40:39]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What makes you uncomfortable? And, how do you hold yourself when you’re in that space? Some years ago, I noticed that a pair of leather shoes I was wearing was badly creased across the top of the right shoe. A friend of mine pointed out the problem - when I get nervous in a group, I sit on the edge of my seat and jiggle my right leg. When I do this, I’m on my toes, and I crease the leather, damaging the shoe. If being in a group makes me nervous, what’s it like to sit with death?  Dr. Kathryn Mannix is a woman who has spent her life being in the presence of death. Not only that, but doing it with grace, tenderness, humor, and kindness. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Katheryn reads two pages from ‘Gratitude’ by Oliver Sacks. [reading begins at 17:45]   Hear us discuss:  “The most important skill at the bedside of dying people is knowing how to be.” [10:30] | The preciousness of being alive. [22:56] | The importance of listening in living an essential life: “I’ve got nothing, but I’m here.” [25:44] | What a tender conversation calls for. [29:23] | “Stories are the way we understand everything.” [33:16] | The lost value of silence. [42:46]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Actor Viggo Mortenson once said: ‘To be an artist, you don't have to compose music, or paint, or be in the movies, or write books. It's just a way of living. It has to do with paying attention, remembering, filtering what you see and answering back, participating in life.’ If you tried on the identity of an artist, how does it fit? Trying it myself, I’m struck by the idea that being an artist is participating in life. So, if you were an artist, how are you participating in life? What does that tell you about the art you’re creating, and who, more than anyone, do you make that art for?  Chadney Everett is a lifelong artist and explorer of the human experience. His work has been featured in galleries, theater, television, and even in film. Chadney’s drive to create art is rooted in connection, which has led him to his current role as the Senior Creative Director at Meow Wolf. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/    Chadney reads two pages from ‘The Dehumanization of Art’ by José Ortega y Gasset. [reading begins at 17:35]   Hear us discuss:  “Thinking about the audience as you make it is not going to create the best art.” [7:05] | How the hostile majority responds to unpopular art: “The function of art is to form a connection between the artist and the viewer.” [20:50] | What is immersive art? [26:43] | Navigating the resistance to art: “Art is metaphorical.” [31:27]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages My first job out of university was with a company that specialized in innovation. It was there that I really began to understand how creativity flourishes when there are restraints. We were once hired by Kellogg’s to help do something new for Corn Flakes, but weren’t allowed to change the product, packaging, or marketing. I remember realizing that I needed to figure out the rules in order to decide which ones needed to be broken.  Whatever your situation, there’s liberation in understanding what rules need to be followed, and which ones can be played with. I’m wondering, how might you more joyfully break a few rules? Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/   Andri Snær Magnason is one of Iceland’s best-selling and most prolific authors, with experience writing across almost every genre, including film. Andri reads two pages from ‘Einstein’s Dreams’ by Alan Lightman. [reading begins at 16:05]   Hear us discuss:  “As an artist, you always have to push your limits and try to reach out of your comfort zone.” [5:00] | The beauty of simplicity: “One of your roles is to not waste your reader’s time.”  [18:42] | A vision for the future. [25:12] | “The way we perceive time, both lived and unlived, can go from feeling like an eternity, to feeling like a flash.” [30:40]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’ve done my fair share of work in organizational development, some of which involved helping big companies set up visions, missions, and values. Most of the time that work honestly drove me nuts. The phrase ‘death by lamination’ sums up the majority of corporate values. They come up with a bland list, stick it on the wall, and hope that it will shift the company’s culture. One of the greatest farces in the world of value statements, though, is including integrity in that list. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Robert Chesnut is the former Chief Ethics Officer at Airbnb, and author of Intentional Integrity: How Smart Companies Can Lead an Ethical Revolution.   Robert reads two pages from his book, ‘Intentional Integrity.’ [reading begins at 6:05]   Hear us discuss:  What prevents companies from being ethical?: “Integrity is contagious.” [1:46] | Having the courage to not be silent: “As a leader, being willing to encourage and reward people for speaking up can change the entire culture.” [3:18] | The evolution of ethics throughout the years. [11:33]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Despite its good intentions, activism can be exhausting. Finding motivation to keep the fight going can be a struggle, but connecting with others is key. A small circle of compassion goes a long way. I am delighted to speak with Loretta Ross, an activism pioneer in the human rights and reproductive justice movements, professor, public intellectual, nationally recognized speaker, and co-author of best-selling books on reproductive justice. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Loretta reads two pages from Jamil Zaki’s inspiring book, ‘The War for Kindness.’ [reading begins at 11:36] Hear us discuss: “At the heart of all activism is hope; the belief that things can change, and that you can make a difference in bringing about that change.” [7:02] | “The people who are opposed to human rights think they're fighting us, the human rights movement, but they couldn't be more wrong. They're fighting forces way bigger than us because they're fighting truth. They're fighting evidence and history, and most of all, they're fighting time.” [8:40] | Making mistakes and being afraid to mess up: “I've learned over time to not do things that I can't look in the eye the next day.” [18:51]
Simon Alexander One reading from Brianna Wiest’s book The Mountain is You, and discussing resilience, self-mastery, and expanding your comfort zone. Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages When we think of energy, we tend to limit it to the physical. This week’s guest rejects that narrow view, sharing that energy exists in four dimensions: the physical, the mental, the emotional, and the spiritual. When all four work in harmony, we can unearth hidden fuel to power our potential. I am delighted to speak to Simon Alexander Ong, award-winning life and executive coach, business strategist, keynote speaker, and author of Energize: Make the Most of Every Moment.  Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Simon reads two pages from Brianna Wiest’s insightful book, ‘The Mountain is You.’ [reading begins at 11:59] Hear us discuss: “One of the things I had to unlearn as an entrepreneur was an attachment to outcome.” [7:38] | Change happens when the pain is too much: “Most people… do not embrace the difficulty of altering their habits until they simply do not have another choice.” [12:10] | “We can't finish a jigsaw puzzle without [first] starting the puzzle, and only when we start putting the pieces together do we begin to have clarity on what that [picture] is.” [23:00]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I am an accidental entrepreneur, and as exhilarating as it’s been, it’s also been really difficult at times. Now, entrepreneurship has been hard for me as a white man and also for one of our previous guests, Bobby Herrera, as a Latino man. However, the statistics are endless when it comes to the struggles of being a woman entrepreneur.  I am delighted to speak to Nathalie Molina Niño, a woman with many titles, some of which include CEO of O³, an investor, an entrepreneur, and the author of Leapfrog: The New Revolution for Women Entrepreneurs. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Nathalie reads two pages from her brilliant book, ‘Leapfrog.’ [reading begins at 7:39]   Hear us discuss:  “If you’re exceptional at anything, you’re probably going to have to become an entrepreneur at it.” [4:28] | “Being an entrepreneur is more of a life skill than a career path … I never saw it as optional.” [4:40] | How to find courage: “Ambition doesn’t have to be ego-centric.” [13:15]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages What skills do you think an entrepreneur requires? I’ve been mulling it over and I’ve come up with four things: marketing, selling, a tolerance for risk, and persistence. You’re probably thinking what I’m thinking – who wouldn’t benefit from building capacity in those four areas? Perhaps we should all consider ourselves entrepreneurs.  Asheesh Advani is a friend, a successful entrepreneur, and a social innovator who’s led Junior Achievement Worldwide since 2015. Considering that JA Worldwide has been nominated for the 2022 Nobel Peace Prize, I’d say he’s doing okay. Asheesh has come full circle, because he’s also an alumnus of JA, and his participation in the group is actually what led him to entrepreneurship early in life. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Asheesh reads two pages from ‘Loonshots’ by Safi Bahcall. [reading begins at 12:30]   Hear us discuss:  “Shifting mindset is easier than shifting skill set.” [9:37] | Innovation on a global scale: “The core of our organization is embracing the fact that true diversity exists.” [16:53] | How to manage and nurture relationships. [21:23] | The balance between control and influence in JA Worldwide: “It’s possible that other people know more than you do.”  [27:24] | How helping young people become more entrepreneurial can contribute to a more peaceful world. [30:34]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m a bit of a geek about models, specifically the ones that reveal patterns and invite new possibilities, helping us expand our understanding of what the world is. My favorites are: the periodic table and its various alternatives, the Roman architect Vitruvius’ three attributes for a building, and finally, the alphabet. A book I love is Edward Gorey’s The Gashlycrumb Tinies, an alphabet book telling the tale of the demise of young children. If this isn’t your style, the good news is that not all alphabet books have grisly endings.   Haesun Moon, Ph.D., is an academic, a communications scientist, a teacher, a coach, and an author. Her new book is a wonderful addition to the world of coaching, Coaching A to Z: The Extraordinary Use of Ordinary Words. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Haesun reads two pages from ‘On Dialogue’ by David Bohm. [reading begins at 15:05]   Hear us discuss:  “The gap between what I heard and what you said is sometimes larger in familiar relationships.” [21:12] | Creating shared meaning on a more societal level: “Culture is nothing more than the accumulation of micro conversations.” [22:08] | How to create shared meaning when different truths exist. [27:01] | Remaining curious rather than defensive. [30:20] | Coaching A to Z. [34:09]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Atul Gawande is a top-notch surgeon, a champion for healthcare reform in the U.S., and an outstanding author. One of his books, The Checklist Manifesto, discusses the power of using a checklist to create better outcomes in hospitals–specifically to stop unnecessary deaths during surgery. It was fascinating to learn about the resistance, from surgeons in particular, to this seemingly minor change. I, for one, love wrestling with how to make people in systems change, but it appears that trying to make changes in healthcare is one of the stickiest challenges of them all.  Richard Winters M.D. is a practicing emergency physician at the Mayo Clinic, but also the director of leadership development for the Mayo Clinic Care Network, a healthcare executive coach, and–like Atul Gawande–an author. His new book is You’re the Leader. Now What? Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Richard reads two pages from ‘The Heart Aroused’ by David Whyte. [reading begins at 17:05]   Hear us discuss:  “Leaders are not individuals who create followers, but rather those who create other leaders.” [8:24] | Identifying and integrating the fears that may be limiting us: “When you shine a light on these monsters, you begin to see that they are sometimes not so real.” [21:09] | Finding the balance between changing yourself and trying to change the system. [29:39] | What organizational culture truly means. [32:07] | “The process of writing is a process of reflection.” [34:25]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I still remember reading my first Nicholson Baker book, The Mezzanine. This extraordinary book slows down the pace of life to one where all the details are able to be noticed. For someone like me–a little bit in my head and moving too fast–reading the book resembles bullet time from The Matrix movies, only with the detritus of everyday living zipping past, instead.  Madeleine Dore reminds me of myself; both a great author and a great asker of questions, though they differ a bit from mine. She’s made a career out of asking obvious questions to important people, with all of the answers she’s received ending up in her best-selling book I Didn’t Do the Thing Today: Letting Go of Productivity Guilt.  Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Madeleine reads two pages from ‘Encyclopedia of an Ordinary Life,’ by Amy Krouse Rosenthal. [reading begins at 12:12]  Hear us discuss:  Making more generous assumptions. [16:24] | The relationship between playfulness and routine. [17:15] | Knowing what’s essential vs transitory about yourself: “It takes a long time to become who you are.” [20:12] | “Things are just experiments and projects—we’re not tied to anything forever.” [25:28] | The complexity of awaiting your next project. [26:35]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m working on a new book about how to strengthen working relationships, so I’ve been consuming a lot of content around the subject. I can divide the teachers I’ve been learning from into two different camps. First are the mechanics; the people laying out what to do. They’re okay, but I prefer the storytellers; the people who realize that stories, not rules, are what change people. It is both an extraordinary and a learnable thing to know how to tell a good story.  Will Storr is a storyteller, and the award-winning author of 6 critically acclaimed books including Selfie, The Science of Storytelling, and most recently, The Status Game. The Times called him, “One of our best journalists of ideas.” Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Will reads two pages from ‘Incognito’ by David Eagleman. [reading begins at 11:58]  Hear us discuss:  “You’re not living a story, you’re playing a game.” [5:37] | The danger of writing yourself as the hero: “You’ve got to accept that you might be wrong about things.”  [16:47] | The positives of the hero-making brain: “I would argue that a certain amount of comforting delusion is good.” [21:05] | How to manage your status: “Status isn’t about being rich or famous, it’s about feeling like you have value.” [23:59] | The connection between the ‘I’ and the ‘we.’ [29:36]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I am a charming man. It’s an optimistic view of who I am. But like everyone else, I also have my faults. This means that one of the great gifts of my life are the people who are on my side but aren’t likely to fall for my whole schtick. Do you have people who, in the nicest possible way, hold you to be the very best person you can be?  Tom Wiese is the co-founder of Studio/E, and he’s spent the past few decades designing tools and teaching people how to explore, launch, and navigate their lives and businesses.  Tom reads an essay written by Michael from the book ‘End Malaria.’ [reading begins at 14:05]  Hear us discuss:  How a scar became a source of strength. [19:02] | Gaining the courage to recognise your scars. [22:07] | The myths of leadership: “Self-leadership is creating a vision that you desire for your life, then holding yourself accountable to it.” [24:45] | “When you’re in the unknown, you don’t know what’s going on unless you take some action.” [29:34] | Finding the balance between courage and safety. [31:34] | Knowing when to stop exploring and start making use of your discoveries: “Exploring alone is really hard; you need to have support.” [35:06]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages Bobby Herrera, author of The Gift of Struggle, is the co-founder and CEO of Populus Group. He is also a proud U.S Army Veteran, an unwavering champion for the underdog, and, most importantly, an all-pro dad to three amazing kids. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  Bobby reads two pages from his book, ‘The Gift of Struggle.’ [reading begins at 5:47]  Hear us discuss:  Being an underdog, but not disempowered: “One of the most important questions we can ask ourselves in leadership is, ‘Who am I becoming?’ and staying on that journey–imperfectly, but consistently.” [2:33] | How intimidating struggle can be when coupled with inexperience: “We all have a PhD in struggle.” [8:25] | “The long way is the shortcut.” [14:54] | Renewing the commitment to struggle: “Asking for help is a sign of strength.” [15:30]
Recommend this show by sharing the link: pod.link/2Pages I’m writing a new book that’s due for release in the middle of 2023, and I was just sitting at a coffee shop reading my editor’s response to the first draft. She’s been reviewing it for about three weeks, and those three weeks have been nerve wracking. I’ve released something into the world but not yet grasped what’s next. Anything is possible right now. In other words, I’m sitting with the ambiguity of it all and trying not to freak out.  You know how sometimes products just seem perfect for the task at hand? The reimagination that goes into creating them is the work of a product designer, and those individuals are taught by people like Andrea Small. She started out studying architecture and metalsmithing at Miami University, but later moved into product design after it was recommended to her. Andrea now teaches strategy and design research at the Stanford d.school, where people use design to develop their own creative potential. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/   Andrea reads two pages from ‘The Book of Eels’ by Patrik Svensson. [reading begins at 16:15]  Hear us discuss:  “Being open to anything is both good and bad.” [6:57] | How to release control when navigating ambiguity. [7:53] | Is ambiguity truly synonymous with uncertainty? [21:33] | Learning to sit with the discomfort of ambiguity: “It’s physically active to navigate ambiguity–that’s why it seems so exhausting.” [23:19] | The relationship between ambiguity and individuality. [30:54] | “There is no perfect solution to navigating ambiguity.” [40:26]
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