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All-American football stars & 1st Round NFL Draft picks LaVar Arrington and Brady Quinn along with Jonas Knox start the day with informed, outspoken, fearless and often funny commentary covering the biggest sports headlines.
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Jonas and LaVar relive their St. Patty's festivities and and get their brackets ready after Selection Sunday. Justin Fields gets shipped to Pittsburgh but was Chicago doing him a favor? Plus, In Case You Missed It?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Stefon Diggs continues to give wide receivers a bad name. Can Caleb Williams live up to the hype? Plus, the FSR IR!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Both Justin Fields and Kenny Pickett get raw deals. Tom Crean rips into teams for declining the NIT after missing out on the NCAA Tournament. Plus, "You In or Out?"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
LaVar Arrington talks about Aaron Donald’s surprise retirement from the NFL at 32, how Russell Wilson, Kenny Pickett, and Justin Fields have all become entangled, the distraction that Aaron Rodgers has become for the New York Jets, and more! #2pros #fsrweekendsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this episode of Conversations With A Legend LaVar Arrington sits down with NFL Legend Fred Taylor to discuss his Hall of Fame candidacy and the success of their show, The Pivot. They also talk about the importance of building relationships and giving back. Takeaways •Fred Taylor deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. •The Hall of Fame selection process is subjective and lacks clear criteria. •The Pivot has been a successful show for Fred Taylor and LeVar Arrington. •Building relationships and giving back are important in both personal and professional life. #upongame #2pros #fsrweekendsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz are in for the guys and talk about all the latest moves in NFL free agency, the CFP set to make some changes, Geoff Schwartz recounting his part in the famous Odell Beckham Jr one-handed catch, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian and Geoff break down the trade that sent Keenan Allen to the Chicago Bears and how things are shaping up for the season, why nobody seems to want Justin Fields, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian & Geoff talk about all the big moves during NFL free agency and how the Chiefs are still the team to beat, how the 14 team College Football Playoff is set to be approved, Geoff's involvement in the famous Odell Beckham Jr. one-handed catch, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz talk about their favorite moves in NFL free agency, how the evaluation of QBs has become tougher thanks to the transfer portal, a preview of the Draft, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Tennessee Titans sign Calvin Ridley and Mason Rudolph, will Sean Payton be able to turn things around in Denver? Albert Breer joins the show to talk all things NFL, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Tennessee Titans sign Calvin Ridley to a huge deal while also picking up former Steelers QB Mason Rudolph. Kirk Cousins bids farewell to the Vikings while also potentially throwing the Falcons under the bus. Plus, another edition of ICYMI!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Former WR Roddy White blasts Sean Payton and says he was the problem, not Russell Wilson. Are the Buffalo Bills into giving practice squad players a shot to make the roster? Plus, a new edition of "Over/Under"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What would it take for the Bears to trade Justin Fields to a division rival like the Vikings? Will the Bears be able to trade Fields at all? Albert Breer of the MMQB stops by to discuss NFL free agency. Plus, "You In, or Out?"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Ravens sign Derrick Henry, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. names Aaron Rodgers as a potential running mate, and Calvin Ridley's future is still up in the air! Joe Mixon has been traded to the Houston Texans when it looked like he might be released by the Bengals. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Kobe statue typos, Dodgers storylines and more! Plus, a new edition of "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Ravens sign Derrick Henry, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. names Aaron Rodgers as a potential running mate, and Calvin Ridley's future is still up in the air! Plus, an unrealistic request from a legend on a new edition of ICYMI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Joe Mixon has been traded to the Houston Texans when it looked like he might be released by the Bengals. Could Kenny Pickett beat out Russell Wilson in a Steelers open QB competition? Plus, a new edition of "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Cowboys have yet to do much of anything in free agency so far... are they awake? Jameis Winston signs a one-year deal with the Cleveland Browns! The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Kobe statue typos,  Plus, "You In, or Out?"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Vikings lose Kirk Cousins to the Falcons, and now hope for a miracle in the Draft. Chargers send a message with signing Gus Edwards, Tee Higgins demands a trade but eh WR class in the draft hurts his stance. Plus, Aaron Jones, Super Bowl Odds, Typos and Kim vs Paris and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Saquon Barkley takes his talents to Philly and fights off haters who question his loyalty. The Dolphins flirt with Salary Cap Hell. LaVar is already counting out the Jets. A discussion about used underwear and “Would You Rather?”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
With Cousins now in Atlanta, the guys make their picks for where Justin Fields plays next season. Jaylon Johnson admits he battles “sex addiction.” Plus, Aaron Jones to the Vikes and much more on “You In or Out?”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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rksp215

let's go

Feb 6th
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Aaron Hartje

It certainly didn't take long for this podcast to become another LeBron ball-licking podcast, did it?

Jun 4th
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Rick Lawson

@tedcruz is another soft belly republican who is all talk !

Feb 3rd
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Aaron Hartje

The wrong question is being asked about Lamar Jackson, and it's entirely Clay's fault that he has to reach for the Elway-Manning comparison today. What's going on right now is that Clay is paying the price for p**** now on his original assertion that the offense that had been tailored completely around Jackson in Baltimore is not one that is going to meet with postseason success. Jackson's game is Jackson's game. Baltimore's offense around Jackson is horseshit and is not the type that currently wins Super Bowls. It's disingenuous to try to lump him in with how people used to look at Elway and Manning. There was, at no time, any doubt that Elway's and Manning's games could be successful in the postseason.

Jan 18th
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Aaron Hartje

Actually, despite Clay's claim to the contrary, saying that it is clear that Brady contributed more than Belichick does actually diminish Belichick. By its very nature that statement does that. The biggest flaw in Clay's season-long narrative that either Brady or Belichick will "win the divorce" is the idea that both cannot demonstrate how much they meant to the franchise and its success. Brady has done an outstanding job this season. He stepped onto a 7-9 team loaded with offensive firepower and has gotten it to the conference championship game right as of right now. Belichick replaced Brady with a quarterback who had lost his last eight starts, put him into an offense basically devoid of weapons and went 7-8 with him. This has never been a matter of someone winning the divorce.

Jan 18th
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Aaron Hartje

Why is it that the more Clay is desperate to keep bringing up this story from last summer, that I want to actually track the story down and see how many qualifiers Clay is deliberately leaving out when talking to people on his podcast about it? Something tells me that some of these predictions were preceded by "if the data we have right now is true, then ..."

Jan 13th
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Aaron Hartje

Let me get this straight. Clay had to go back to last summer to find something to talk about during the first 20 minutes of this podcast? And on top of that decides to guess who benefited and who didn't from college football being played while at the same time criticizing people for not going with the facts? TV networks that broadcast those games would have suffered quite a bit. Sure, you can get an extension and a rebate. In the meantime, all of those people who would have been working those games are out of work. You don't survive this year on store credit for 3 years from now.

Jan 13th
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Aaron Hartje

Just to save everyone some time, Clay spends roughly 80% of the podcast repeating things he's been saying for months and crediting himself as much as possible for the fact that college football was even played this year. Big surprise, right?

Jan 12th
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Aaron Hartje

As has been acknowledged in the past, it is far too early to determine whether Brady or Belichick was most important to the Patriots. Brady stepped onto a seven-win team that was loaded with receivers. Now, look at the roster Brady left behind him. Who is to say that as bad as the Patriots were this season, they wouldn't have lost considerably more than nine games was Belichick not at the helm? They still went 7-9 with Cam Newton (7-8) at quarterback. The same Cam Newton who I believe had lost his previous eight starts in another city.

Jan 11th
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Aaron Hartje

Just a note. "Incontrovertible evidence" does not mean that everyone can tell a call was wrong. It means that it is plain and clear that the call was wrong. I think all of us have heard announcers at these games watch a replay in which the evidence is clear as day but the broadcaster is so dug in on what his initial assessment was that he will continue insisting that his initial evaluation was the right one.

Jan 11th
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Aaron Hartje

Lebatard is a piece of s*** and always has been. But to touch on Clay's interview with Peter King, what happened during that interview is that Clay brought him on to address a specific thing that King had said, changed the subject right away and ran out the clock. They never really went back and forth on the reason that King was there to begin with. I'm not saying it was intentional on Clay's part. He's not a professional interviewer who is able to keep things going in a certain direction. He will follow the conversation wherever it goes and that is fine. But he didn't really deliver a beatdown on Peter King. He still managed to expose King's line of thinking in general regarding COVID though, and that had value.

Jan 8th
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Aaron Hartje

I guess now we know why Clay hasn't invited this guy on in six months that he put on in the third hour today.

Jan 6th
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Aaron Hartje

"Patrick Mahomes is going to win a lot of Super Bowls," brought to you by "Steven Strasburg is going to pitch in a Lot of World Series."

Jan 5th
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Aaron Hartje

I love how two of the big reasons that Clay believes the chargers job is the best one are that it has a lot of young players and $30M worth of cap space. In other words, all of those young talented players are going to be looking for huge pay bumps over the next few seasons as they run out of their rookie contracts and they will more than chew up that $30 million. And by the time they're done with that, it will be the quarterback's turn to ask for more money.

Jan 5th
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Aaron Hartje

A rising tide does tend to lift some boats, but those boats still have to prove that they are worth lifting. If you're average at your job, the guy who is the best at that job getting a raise is not going to get you any sort of arrays, because you can be replaced tomorrow. The elite performers getting huge increases does not increase the entry- or mid-level salaries at these positions. It only moves the needle for the other top performers. and, to be honest, a lot of times it shouldn't. If Tony Romo gets a huge contract because everyone seems to be in love with how good he is, why should that translate into Al Michaels getting a pay bump when he has gotten no better than he was the previous 20 years? This, of course, is a side from the reality that nobody cares who is in the booth as long as they are not horrible. They care about matchups when it comes to football. It becomes a going-rate argument which, again, only applies to people who are already at a certain level.

Jan 5th
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Aaron Hartje

Clay's repeated insistence that he be given partial credit for the Big Ten playing this year has officially become pathetic.

Jan 4th
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Aaron Hartje

I've grown so tired of this b******* about last year Joe Burrow having "the greatest season by any quarterback in college football history." They were saying that by the 8th or 9th game of the season, so the postseason doesn't really apply. There are two or three quarterbacks who have statistical seasons like Burrows' damn near every season.

Dec 31st
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Aaron Hartje

"We're going to break down the NFL playoff picture for you today." I.e - "We're going to do the same show we've already done three times this week." You should be used to it by now.

Dec 31st
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Aaron Hartje

Yes, I have to agree with Clay that going 23-1 in your last 24 NFL games would be a heck of an accomplishment. The problem is, the main major league sports in this country for not include the postseason when it comes to statistics. So the Chiefs have not gone 23-1 in their last 24 games. They have gone 20-1 in their last 21 games. But why stop at that arbitrary date that Clay does? Could it be that, before this stretch began, the Chiefs had lost four of their previous six games? Even THAT record through today would still be good, but Clay's arguments are generally fairly fragile to begin with and God forbid he not contort things as much as possible to try to bolster his points. It's bad enough that he seeks approval for every opinion he has, whether it's turning to the other guys on the show, or the guests. Multiple times every day he seems to cry, "Please guys, validate me."

Dec 30th
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Aaron Hartje

It's adorable that Clay tries to include the Chiefs playoff wins in their record, but that's not something grown-ups do because they know better. The Chiefs are actually 20-1 in their last 21 games. why that is somehow not impressive enough is beyond me. Strange how he will only go back to a certain date when he decides to try to bolster his argument about how wonderful the Chiefs are though. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that, if we choose to go back a few weeks earlier, the Chiefs are 22-5. that's still awfully damn good, but not good enough for a guy like Clay. This is why he cannot be trusted. You can always count on him to pull this exact kind of sleight of hand because he never feels fully confident in his analysis. The fact that almost everything he puts out there he then turns to his employees to get their support just secures that belief in my mind.

Dec 29th
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