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2 Pros and a Cup of Joe
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All-American football stars & 1st Round NFL Draft picks LaVar Arrington and Brady Quinn along with Jonas Knox start the day with informed, outspoken, fearless and often funny commentary covering the biggest sports headlines.
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Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington open the show with their reactions to the latest College Football Playoff rankings... Did the committee get it right? Then they move over to the news that BYU coach Kalani Sataki is staying put after he turned down Penn State's advances to make him their next head coach. Plus, more fun with a new edition of ICYMI!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington open hour 2 discussing recent comments from Ben Roethlisberger where he suggested it might be time for the Steelers to clean house, including head coach Mike Tomlin... Is he right? Then they move into this week's college football roundup, hitting on some of the biggest stories of a wild week in the sport. Plus, more fun with a new edition of "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly"!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington open hour 3 joined by "The Old P", Petros Papdakis, to talk everything college football! What does he think of Lane Kiffin heading to LSU? How about the other big hires from across the sport? Plus, more fun with "The Leftovers"!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington open the show with their reactions to the latest College Football Playoff rankings... Did the committee get it right? Then they move over to the news that BYU coach Kalani Sataki is staying put after he turned down Penn State's advances to make him their next head coach. Later, the guys get into recent comments from Ben Roethlisberger where he suggested it might be time for the Steelers to clean house, including head coach Mike Tomlin... Is he right?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about the Patriots beating up on the Giants during Monday Night Football, the complete disfunction of the Las Vegas Raiders organization, who could be the next head coach for Penn State, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Tuesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about the Patriots dominating the Giants on MNF as well as Giants DE Abdul Carter sitting out the first series of the game for rumored disciplinary reasons, Lane Kiffin getting introduced at LSU, ICYMI, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys talk about the total ineptitude of the Raiders organization and Chip Kelly continuing to get thrown under the bus, speculation on the next Penn State head coach, Juwan Jennings getting called a "ho", and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys talk about Giants QB Jaxon Dart refusing to protect himself by getting out of bounds, also FOX Sports NFL & College Rules Analyst Dean Blandino joins the show to talk all things officiating, Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about Ohio State beating up on Michigan and their upcoming matchup against #2 Indiana, Lane Kiffin getting hired by LSU and not being able to finish out the season with Ole Miss, Pete Prisco joining the show to talk NFL, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Monday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about an action packed weekend of college football including Ohio State beating up on Michigan as well as Lane Kiffin getting hired as the new head coach for LSU, not being allowed to finish the season with Ole Miss, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys talk about the fallout from the Lane Kiffin hiring at LSU and who is to blame for the current system in College Football, Pete Golding being named the permanent head coach for Ole Miss rather than "interim," FSR IR, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys are joined by CBS Senior NFL Analyst Pete Prisco to talk about all things NFL including which successful team is getting ready to tumble, how Penn State has yet to line up their next coach after James Franklin, Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Dan thinks the Bengals should let Joe Burrow play out the remainder of the season even though they don’t have a realistic shot to make the NFL Playoffs. Covino & Rich are in for Dan on Thanksgiving for a great day of games and food! Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington are in on a Black Friday Edition of The Dan Patrick Show, joined by NFL insider Albert Breer to preview "The Game" between Ohio State and Michigan, as well as break down the Thanksgiving football games and look ahead to the rest of Week 13. #CRShow #2ProsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on this Post- Thanksgiving edition of 2 Pros and A Cup of Joe, Brian Noe and Jason Martin fill in for the guys and discuss the Chiefs loss against the Dallas Cowboys, the signs that are showing the end of the dynasty are near, how great the Packers looked, & more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in on this Post Thanksgiving Edition of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe! The guys discuss the Chiefs loss to the Cowboys, the signs that point that Chiefs dynasty is coming to an end, then transition into what is actually going on with Lamar Jackson? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Jason Martin & Brian Noe recap the Packers defeating the Lions, then preview the Eagles taking on the Chicago Bears, and the guys debate if the Bears are actually frauds + the guys dive into the Lane Kiffin coaching drama! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
To wrap up the last hour of the Post Thanksgiving Edition of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brian and Jason preview some the of the big college football games heading into the weekend, how the Texas Longhorns are the KC equivalent in college football, Arch Manning’s injury concerns & do the Broncos have a low ceiling compared to the Patriots? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in for the guys as they talk how the Baltimore Ravens are literally just ordinary, discuss about the Egg Bowl rivalry between OIe Miss and Miss State, but the focus is on Lane Kiffin and just where he could go if he were to leave Ole Miss, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in for the guys as they talk about the Baltimore Ravens recent win streak and make that claim that they still look and feel ordinary. Plus, the guys wonder who the real College Football contenders are, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian Noe & Jason Martin fill in for the guys as they talk about the Egg Bowl rivalry between OIe Miss and Miss State, but the focus is on Lane Kiffin and just where he could go if he were to leave Ole Miss, the Darnold & Jones comp, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.






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It certainly didn't take long for this podcast to become another LeBron ball-licking podcast, did it?
@tedcruz is another soft belly republican who is all talk !
The wrong question is being asked about Lamar Jackson, and it's entirely Clay's fault that he has to reach for the Elway-Manning comparison today. What's going on right now is that Clay is paying the price for p**** now on his original assertion that the offense that had been tailored completely around Jackson in Baltimore is not one that is going to meet with postseason success. Jackson's game is Jackson's game. Baltimore's offense around Jackson is horseshit and is not the type that currently wins Super Bowls. It's disingenuous to try to lump him in with how people used to look at Elway and Manning. There was, at no time, any doubt that Elway's and Manning's games could be successful in the postseason.
Actually, despite Clay's claim to the contrary, saying that it is clear that Brady contributed more than Belichick does actually diminish Belichick. By its very nature that statement does that. The biggest flaw in Clay's season-long narrative that either Brady or Belichick will "win the divorce" is the idea that both cannot demonstrate how much they meant to the franchise and its success. Brady has done an outstanding job this season. He stepped onto a 7-9 team loaded with offensive firepower and has gotten it to the conference championship game right as of right now. Belichick replaced Brady with a quarterback who had lost his last eight starts, put him into an offense basically devoid of weapons and went 7-8 with him. This has never been a matter of someone winning the divorce.
Why is it that the more Clay is desperate to keep bringing up this story from last summer, that I want to actually track the story down and see how many qualifiers Clay is deliberately leaving out when talking to people on his podcast about it? Something tells me that some of these predictions were preceded by "if the data we have right now is true, then ..."
Let me get this straight. Clay had to go back to last summer to find something to talk about during the first 20 minutes of this podcast? And on top of that decides to guess who benefited and who didn't from college football being played while at the same time criticizing people for not going with the facts? TV networks that broadcast those games would have suffered quite a bit. Sure, you can get an extension and a rebate. In the meantime, all of those people who would have been working those games are out of work. You don't survive this year on store credit for 3 years from now.
Just to save everyone some time, Clay spends roughly 80% of the podcast repeating things he's been saying for months and crediting himself as much as possible for the fact that college football was even played this year. Big surprise, right?
As has been acknowledged in the past, it is far too early to determine whether Brady or Belichick was most important to the Patriots. Brady stepped onto a seven-win team that was loaded with receivers. Now, look at the roster Brady left behind him. Who is to say that as bad as the Patriots were this season, they wouldn't have lost considerably more than nine games was Belichick not at the helm? They still went 7-9 with Cam Newton (7-8) at quarterback. The same Cam Newton who I believe had lost his previous eight starts in another city.
Just a note. "Incontrovertible evidence" does not mean that everyone can tell a call was wrong. It means that it is plain and clear that the call was wrong. I think all of us have heard announcers at these games watch a replay in which the evidence is clear as day but the broadcaster is so dug in on what his initial assessment was that he will continue insisting that his initial evaluation was the right one.
Lebatard is a piece of s*** and always has been. But to touch on Clay's interview with Peter King, what happened during that interview is that Clay brought him on to address a specific thing that King had said, changed the subject right away and ran out the clock. They never really went back and forth on the reason that King was there to begin with. I'm not saying it was intentional on Clay's part. He's not a professional interviewer who is able to keep things going in a certain direction. He will follow the conversation wherever it goes and that is fine. But he didn't really deliver a beatdown on Peter King. He still managed to expose King's line of thinking in general regarding COVID though, and that had value.
I guess now we know why Clay hasn't invited this guy on in six months that he put on in the third hour today.
"Patrick Mahomes is going to win a lot of Super Bowls," brought to you by "Steven Strasburg is going to pitch in a Lot of World Series."
I love how two of the big reasons that Clay believes the chargers job is the best one are that it has a lot of young players and $30M worth of cap space. In other words, all of those young talented players are going to be looking for huge pay bumps over the next few seasons as they run out of their rookie contracts and they will more than chew up that $30 million. And by the time they're done with that, it will be the quarterback's turn to ask for more money.
A rising tide does tend to lift some boats, but those boats still have to prove that they are worth lifting. If you're average at your job, the guy who is the best at that job getting a raise is not going to get you any sort of arrays, because you can be replaced tomorrow. The elite performers getting huge increases does not increase the entry- or mid-level salaries at these positions. It only moves the needle for the other top performers. and, to be honest, a lot of times it shouldn't. If Tony Romo gets a huge contract because everyone seems to be in love with how good he is, why should that translate into Al Michaels getting a pay bump when he has gotten no better than he was the previous 20 years? This, of course, is a side from the reality that nobody cares who is in the booth as long as they are not horrible. They care about matchups when it comes to football. It becomes a going-rate argument which, again, only applies to people who are already at a certain level.
Clay's repeated insistence that he be given partial credit for the Big Ten playing this year has officially become pathetic.
I've grown so tired of this b******* about last year Joe Burrow having "the greatest season by any quarterback in college football history." They were saying that by the 8th or 9th game of the season, so the postseason doesn't really apply. There are two or three quarterbacks who have statistical seasons like Burrows' damn near every season.
"We're going to break down the NFL playoff picture for you today." I.e - "We're going to do the same show we've already done three times this week." You should be used to it by now.