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All-American football stars & 1st Round NFL Draft picks LaVar Arrington and Brady Quinn along with Jonas Knox start the day with informed, outspoken, fearless and often funny commentary covering the biggest sports headlines.
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Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz are in for the guys and talk about the Seahawks barely beating the Bears on TNF, the classic LeBron vs. Jordan debate, the future prospects of the young QBs in the NFL, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz are in for the guys and talk about the low-scoring Thursday Night affair that saw the Seahawks defeat the Bears 6-3. How Geno Smith could be a problem for the Seahawks moving forward, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian & Geoff talk about Miami basketball head coach Jim Larrañaga stepping down midseason due to NIL, the NFL's ratings dominance over the NBA on Christmas Day, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Brian & Geoff discuss who will have the best career moving forward of all the 1st & 2nd year QBs, how much Shadeur Sanders & Travis Hunter can be expected to play in their bowl games, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys talk about how Lamar Jackson’s performance in the Ravens dominating win over the Texans has jolted the MVP race, Pete Carroll interested in coaching the Bears & more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys begin the show talking about how Lamar Jackson’s performance in the Ravens dominating win over the Texans has jolted the MVP race, the Chiefs keep looking even scarier and better + Beyoncé's performance in “ICYMI.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
With news coming out earlier in the week about Pete Carroll wanting to return to the NFL sidelines and coach the Chicago Bears, the guys debate if it would be a good fit & could Bill Belichick be the inspiration behind him wanting to come out of retirement + Quinn’s Wins. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The MMQB’s Albert Breer stops by to talk about the NFL’s Christmas Games, NFL which team was Pete Carroll eyeing last season before news broke of him looking at the Bears gig + Brie’s Leftovers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to the Packers shutting out the Saints on MNF. The beef between Kirk Herbstreit and Shannon Sharp is borderline comical. And NFL Columnist for CBSSports, Pete Prisco stops and debates what the Vikings and Raiders will do at quarterback next season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to the Packers shutting out the Saints on MNF. Mahomes is starting Christmas day vs the Steelers, but should he be? Plus, In Case You Missed It and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Aaron Rodgers addresses the awkward reports about the top brass in New York. The beef between Kirk Herbstreit and Shannon Sharp is borderline comical. Plusa replacement of Tank Dell in Houston and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Antonio Pierce doesn’t give a rip about fans wanting a No. 1 pick, and rightfully so! NFL Columnist for CBSSports, Pete Prisco debates what the Vikings and Raiders will do at quarterback next season. Plus, a Christmas Eve edition of Lee’s Leftovers and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys tell critics to quit complaining about the 1st go around of the expanded college football playoff! That’s a wrap on the race for the Offensive Rookie of the Year after Jayden Daniels performance vs the Eagles. Plus, some feel good stories on ICYMI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys tell critics to quit complaining about the 1st go around of the expanded college football playoff! Lions OC Ben Johnson seemingly shows off with a trick play vs the Bears. Plus, a special Monday visit from the Old P, Petros Papadakis!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Lions OC Ben Johnson seemingly shows off in an audition for the Bears job. The race for the No.1 pick in the Draft gets interesting. Plus, a brotherly squabble, cutting it close and licking the lid on the FSR IR.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins the guys for a special Monday visit to talk about the College Football Playoff! Burrow and the Bengals keep the door open for a miraculous comeback this season. Plus, an NFC South shakeup and more on Lee’s Leftovers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Travis Hunter wins the Heisman in a close race with Ashton Jeantry. NFL Insider Albert Breer talks about the Falcons transition from Cousins to Penix and more! Plus a debate over the worst coaching vacancy between the Bears and Jets. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and Jim Harbaugh leads the Chargers to a comeback beat of the Broncos, in part thanks to a historic free kick. The guys debate the better coaching vacancy between the Jets and Bears, following a scathing report about Woody Johnson. A special College Football Playoff Edition of Quinn’s Wins.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and Jim Harbaugh leads the Chargers to a comeback beat of the Broncos, in part thanks to a historic free kick. Boots on the ground for the College Football Playoffs and a Sosa-Cubs reunion on ICYMI.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The guys debate the better coaching vacancy between the Jets and Bears, following a scathing report about Woody Johnson. Is there a solution to the free-falling NBA TV ratings. Plus, Week 16 preview with Picks Against the Spread.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It certainly didn't take long for this podcast to become another LeBron ball-licking podcast, did it?
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The wrong question is being asked about Lamar Jackson, and it's entirely Clay's fault that he has to reach for the Elway-Manning comparison today. What's going on right now is that Clay is paying the price for p**** now on his original assertion that the offense that had been tailored completely around Jackson in Baltimore is not one that is going to meet with postseason success. Jackson's game is Jackson's game. Baltimore's offense around Jackson is horseshit and is not the type that currently wins Super Bowls. It's disingenuous to try to lump him in with how people used to look at Elway and Manning. There was, at no time, any doubt that Elway's and Manning's games could be successful in the postseason.
Actually, despite Clay's claim to the contrary, saying that it is clear that Brady contributed more than Belichick does actually diminish Belichick. By its very nature that statement does that. The biggest flaw in Clay's season-long narrative that either Brady or Belichick will "win the divorce" is the idea that both cannot demonstrate how much they meant to the franchise and its success. Brady has done an outstanding job this season. He stepped onto a 7-9 team loaded with offensive firepower and has gotten it to the conference championship game right as of right now. Belichick replaced Brady with a quarterback who had lost his last eight starts, put him into an offense basically devoid of weapons and went 7-8 with him. This has never been a matter of someone winning the divorce.
Why is it that the more Clay is desperate to keep bringing up this story from last summer, that I want to actually track the story down and see how many qualifiers Clay is deliberately leaving out when talking to people on his podcast about it? Something tells me that some of these predictions were preceded by "if the data we have right now is true, then ..."
Let me get this straight. Clay had to go back to last summer to find something to talk about during the first 20 minutes of this podcast? And on top of that decides to guess who benefited and who didn't from college football being played while at the same time criticizing people for not going with the facts? TV networks that broadcast those games would have suffered quite a bit. Sure, you can get an extension and a rebate. In the meantime, all of those people who would have been working those games are out of work. You don't survive this year on store credit for 3 years from now.
Just to save everyone some time, Clay spends roughly 80% of the podcast repeating things he's been saying for months and crediting himself as much as possible for the fact that college football was even played this year. Big surprise, right?
As has been acknowledged in the past, it is far too early to determine whether Brady or Belichick was most important to the Patriots. Brady stepped onto a seven-win team that was loaded with receivers. Now, look at the roster Brady left behind him. Who is to say that as bad as the Patriots were this season, they wouldn't have lost considerably more than nine games was Belichick not at the helm? They still went 7-9 with Cam Newton (7-8) at quarterback. The same Cam Newton who I believe had lost his previous eight starts in another city.
Just a note. "Incontrovertible evidence" does not mean that everyone can tell a call was wrong. It means that it is plain and clear that the call was wrong. I think all of us have heard announcers at these games watch a replay in which the evidence is clear as day but the broadcaster is so dug in on what his initial assessment was that he will continue insisting that his initial evaluation was the right one.
Lebatard is a piece of s*** and always has been. But to touch on Clay's interview with Peter King, what happened during that interview is that Clay brought him on to address a specific thing that King had said, changed the subject right away and ran out the clock. They never really went back and forth on the reason that King was there to begin with. I'm not saying it was intentional on Clay's part. He's not a professional interviewer who is able to keep things going in a certain direction. He will follow the conversation wherever it goes and that is fine. But he didn't really deliver a beatdown on Peter King. He still managed to expose King's line of thinking in general regarding COVID though, and that had value.
I guess now we know why Clay hasn't invited this guy on in six months that he put on in the third hour today.
"Patrick Mahomes is going to win a lot of Super Bowls," brought to you by "Steven Strasburg is going to pitch in a Lot of World Series."
I love how two of the big reasons that Clay believes the chargers job is the best one are that it has a lot of young players and $30M worth of cap space. In other words, all of those young talented players are going to be looking for huge pay bumps over the next few seasons as they run out of their rookie contracts and they will more than chew up that $30 million. And by the time they're done with that, it will be the quarterback's turn to ask for more money.
A rising tide does tend to lift some boats, but those boats still have to prove that they are worth lifting. If you're average at your job, the guy who is the best at that job getting a raise is not going to get you any sort of arrays, because you can be replaced tomorrow. The elite performers getting huge increases does not increase the entry- or mid-level salaries at these positions. It only moves the needle for the other top performers. and, to be honest, a lot of times it shouldn't. If Tony Romo gets a huge contract because everyone seems to be in love with how good he is, why should that translate into Al Michaels getting a pay bump when he has gotten no better than he was the previous 20 years? This, of course, is a side from the reality that nobody cares who is in the booth as long as they are not horrible. They care about matchups when it comes to football. It becomes a going-rate argument which, again, only applies to people who are already at a certain level.
Clay's repeated insistence that he be given partial credit for the Big Ten playing this year has officially become pathetic.
I've grown so tired of this b******* about last year Joe Burrow having "the greatest season by any quarterback in college football history." They were saying that by the 8th or 9th game of the season, so the postseason doesn't really apply. There are two or three quarterbacks who have statistical seasons like Burrows' damn near every season.
"We're going to break down the NFL playoff picture for you today." I.e - "We're going to do the same show we've already done three times this week." You should be used to it by now.
Yes, I have to agree with Clay that going 23-1 in your last 24 NFL games would be a heck of an accomplishment. The problem is, the main major league sports in this country for not include the postseason when it comes to statistics. So the Chiefs have not gone 23-1 in their last 24 games. They have gone 20-1 in their last 21 games. But why stop at that arbitrary date that Clay does? Could it be that, before this stretch began, the Chiefs had lost four of their previous six games? Even THAT record through today would still be good, but Clay's arguments are generally fairly fragile to begin with and God forbid he not contort things as much as possible to try to bolster his points. It's bad enough that he seeks approval for every opinion he has, whether it's turning to the other guys on the show, or the guests. Multiple times every day he seems to cry, "Please guys, validate me."