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All-American football stars & 1st Round NFL Draft picks LaVar Arrington and Brady Quinn along with Jonas Knox start the day with informed, outspoken, fearless and often funny commentary covering the biggest sports headlines.
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Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys discuss Tua getting benched in favor of Quinn Ewers and debate about Spaghetti O's. Plus, the guys react to Coach Speak, Joe Burrow having open ended thoughts, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this Thursday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys discuss Tua Tagovailoa getting benched by the Dolphins in favor of Quinn Ewers. Plus, the guys react to Mahomes injury update, the spaghetti O beef, and another fun edition of ICYMI!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 2 of the show today, the guys have fun with Coach Speak and even react to another fired college coach due to possible allegations. Plus, the guys discuss Joe Burrow claiming he still wants to be with the Bengals but also leaving things open ended, Express Pro of the Week, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys preview the Thursday Night game between the Rams & Seahawks and even discuss Puka Nacua making headlines. Plus, the guys chat with Albert Breer, have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys talk about Jerry Jones still wanting to win even if he doesn't make playoffs. Plus, the guys chat with Petros Papadakis, ICYMI with the one and only Beefaroni Boy, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this Wednesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys discuss the potential of the Dolphins possibly benching Tua and looking at a different QB direction. Plus, the guys discuss Curt Cignetti getting the AP Coach of the Year again and we get a Beefaroni version of ICYMI!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 2 of the show today, the guys discuss Jerry Jones wanting to still win and not tank for draft picks going forward. Plus, the guys react to Jayden Daniels frustration on this year, The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys chat with Petros Papadakis on the recent Sherrone Moore business, TJ Watt's lung debacle, have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys talk more about injuries in the NFL and what to make of the Colts still going with Phillip Rivers as the starter. Plus, the guys talk with Dean Blandino, JJ McCarthy dancing, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this Tuesday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys recap the Monday Night Football game between the Steelers & the Dolphins, and ponder the Steelers playoff potential. Plus, the guys discuss the updated injuries that plagued this past week and we get another rousing edition of ICYMI!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 2 of the show today, the guys discuss about the whole JJ McCarthy griddy dancing before a TD and why that is a bad look. Plus, the guys talk Phillip Rivers still starting, another edition of FSR IR, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys chat it up with NFL Rules Analyst Dean Blandino on various plays are called for flags. Plus, the guys talk Joe Burrow still playing despite the Bengals not making playoffs, have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today on 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys discuss the return of Phillip Rivers who almost had a win for the Colts against Seattle. Plus, the guys chat with Pete Prisco on all things NFL, Heisman winner and loser with Fernando Mendoza and Diego Pavia, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this Monday edition of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, the guys recap week 15 of the NFL with a bevy of injuries hitting the league hard such as Patrick Mahomes & Micah Parsons. Plus, the guys discuss the return of Phillip Rivers almost beating Seattle in his return, and we get another rousing edition of ICYMI!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 2 of the show today, the guys discuss the Bengals getting eliminated from the playoffs this season while also looking defeated with Joe Burrow. Plus, the guys react to Fernando Mendoza winning the Heisman while also viewing Diego Pavia not having a great look to his award loss, another edition of FSR IR, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys chat it up with CBS NFL Analyst Pete Prisco as they digest all the NFL fallout from week 15. Plus, the guys critique the AFC East after the Bills beat the Patriots yesterday, have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
LaVar Arrington, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Plaxico Burress talk about the firing of Sheronne Moore and the following legal troubles, how Michigan can pivot from this moment, Philip Rivers unretiring after 5 years to join the Colts, and more! #2pros #fsrweekendsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
LaVar, TJ, and Plax are joined by Cuffs the Legend of the Some Dude Show to talk more about Philip Rivers unretiring to join the Colts, Rich Paul saying the Lakers aren’t good enough to win a title this year, the seeming inevitability of the OKC Thunder, and more! #2pros #fsrweekendsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe the guys chat with Petros Papadakis as they make sense of the College Football playoff rankings. Plus, the guys chat with Albert Breer as they discuss Philip Rivers and other NFL news, have a funny edition of Coach Speak with fines given out yet again, and more!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Hour 3 of the show today, the guys discuss the Heisman Trophy chatter as they preview it. Plus, the guys make their week 15 NFL picks, have some fun with the Leftovers, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.






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It certainly didn't take long for this podcast to become another LeBron ball-licking podcast, did it?
@tedcruz is another soft belly republican who is all talk !
The wrong question is being asked about Lamar Jackson, and it's entirely Clay's fault that he has to reach for the Elway-Manning comparison today. What's going on right now is that Clay is paying the price for p**** now on his original assertion that the offense that had been tailored completely around Jackson in Baltimore is not one that is going to meet with postseason success. Jackson's game is Jackson's game. Baltimore's offense around Jackson is horseshit and is not the type that currently wins Super Bowls. It's disingenuous to try to lump him in with how people used to look at Elway and Manning. There was, at no time, any doubt that Elway's and Manning's games could be successful in the postseason.
Actually, despite Clay's claim to the contrary, saying that it is clear that Brady contributed more than Belichick does actually diminish Belichick. By its very nature that statement does that. The biggest flaw in Clay's season-long narrative that either Brady or Belichick will "win the divorce" is the idea that both cannot demonstrate how much they meant to the franchise and its success. Brady has done an outstanding job this season. He stepped onto a 7-9 team loaded with offensive firepower and has gotten it to the conference championship game right as of right now. Belichick replaced Brady with a quarterback who had lost his last eight starts, put him into an offense basically devoid of weapons and went 7-8 with him. This has never been a matter of someone winning the divorce.
Why is it that the more Clay is desperate to keep bringing up this story from last summer, that I want to actually track the story down and see how many qualifiers Clay is deliberately leaving out when talking to people on his podcast about it? Something tells me that some of these predictions were preceded by "if the data we have right now is true, then ..."
Let me get this straight. Clay had to go back to last summer to find something to talk about during the first 20 minutes of this podcast? And on top of that decides to guess who benefited and who didn't from college football being played while at the same time criticizing people for not going with the facts? TV networks that broadcast those games would have suffered quite a bit. Sure, you can get an extension and a rebate. In the meantime, all of those people who would have been working those games are out of work. You don't survive this year on store credit for 3 years from now.
Just to save everyone some time, Clay spends roughly 80% of the podcast repeating things he's been saying for months and crediting himself as much as possible for the fact that college football was even played this year. Big surprise, right?
As has been acknowledged in the past, it is far too early to determine whether Brady or Belichick was most important to the Patriots. Brady stepped onto a seven-win team that was loaded with receivers. Now, look at the roster Brady left behind him. Who is to say that as bad as the Patriots were this season, they wouldn't have lost considerably more than nine games was Belichick not at the helm? They still went 7-9 with Cam Newton (7-8) at quarterback. The same Cam Newton who I believe had lost his previous eight starts in another city.
Just a note. "Incontrovertible evidence" does not mean that everyone can tell a call was wrong. It means that it is plain and clear that the call was wrong. I think all of us have heard announcers at these games watch a replay in which the evidence is clear as day but the broadcaster is so dug in on what his initial assessment was that he will continue insisting that his initial evaluation was the right one.
Lebatard is a piece of s*** and always has been. But to touch on Clay's interview with Peter King, what happened during that interview is that Clay brought him on to address a specific thing that King had said, changed the subject right away and ran out the clock. They never really went back and forth on the reason that King was there to begin with. I'm not saying it was intentional on Clay's part. He's not a professional interviewer who is able to keep things going in a certain direction. He will follow the conversation wherever it goes and that is fine. But he didn't really deliver a beatdown on Peter King. He still managed to expose King's line of thinking in general regarding COVID though, and that had value.
I guess now we know why Clay hasn't invited this guy on in six months that he put on in the third hour today.
"Patrick Mahomes is going to win a lot of Super Bowls," brought to you by "Steven Strasburg is going to pitch in a Lot of World Series."
I love how two of the big reasons that Clay believes the chargers job is the best one are that it has a lot of young players and $30M worth of cap space. In other words, all of those young talented players are going to be looking for huge pay bumps over the next few seasons as they run out of their rookie contracts and they will more than chew up that $30 million. And by the time they're done with that, it will be the quarterback's turn to ask for more money.
A rising tide does tend to lift some boats, but those boats still have to prove that they are worth lifting. If you're average at your job, the guy who is the best at that job getting a raise is not going to get you any sort of arrays, because you can be replaced tomorrow. The elite performers getting huge increases does not increase the entry- or mid-level salaries at these positions. It only moves the needle for the other top performers. and, to be honest, a lot of times it shouldn't. If Tony Romo gets a huge contract because everyone seems to be in love with how good he is, why should that translate into Al Michaels getting a pay bump when he has gotten no better than he was the previous 20 years? This, of course, is a side from the reality that nobody cares who is in the booth as long as they are not horrible. They care about matchups when it comes to football. It becomes a going-rate argument which, again, only applies to people who are already at a certain level.
Clay's repeated insistence that he be given partial credit for the Big Ten playing this year has officially become pathetic.
I've grown so tired of this b******* about last year Joe Burrow having "the greatest season by any quarterback in college football history." They were saying that by the 8th or 9th game of the season, so the postseason doesn't really apply. There are two or three quarterbacks who have statistical seasons like Burrows' damn near every season.
"We're going to break down the NFL playoff picture for you today." I.e - "We're going to do the same show we've already done three times this week." You should be used to it by now.