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Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
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On the Bitcoin Takeover podcast you're going to hear the builders and innovators who make the Bitcoin project valuable. It's thanks to their work that the BTC price goes up, and it's their efforts that convince large investors that Bitcoin is the future of money. Here you will find the projects and ideas that will radically improve Bitcoin in the future, presented by the creators and innovators themselves. Time to learn!
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The recent ColliderScript research paper is a game changer: it enables Bitcoin covenants at a high cost, but without requiring any soft fork. It's the most remarkable breakthrough since BitVM and co-author Avihu M. Levy is here to explain how it works!
Time stamps:
Introduction (00:00:45)
Avihu M. Levy's Background in Bitcoin (00:02:25)
Covenants in Bitcoin (00:03:43)
Impact of Taproot Upgrade (00:06:07)
Research Renaissance in Bitcoin (00:08:42)
Debate on Taproot's Impact (00:09:18)
ColliderScript Paper Overview (00:12:21)
Covenants and Script Limitations (00:14:09)
Bridging Script Worlds (00:16:11)
Importance of Covenants (00:17:34)
Covenants and Scaling (00:22:23)
Community Sentiment on Covenants (00:23:45)
Research and Development for Covenants (00:25:07)
Concerns About Covenants (00:25:48)
Predicting the Impact of Taproot (00:26:26)
Funding for Covenant Research (00:28:42)
ColliderScript Overview (00:29:44)
Background on ColliderScript Development (00:30:30)
Future Improvements for Collider Script (00:33:21)
Motivation Behind Collider Script (00:36:18)
Community Demand for Simplified Solutions (00:39:07)
Starkware's Goals and Community Perception (00:40:27)
Avihu's Bitcoin Journey (00:40:33)
Technological Readiness (00:41:43)
Bitcoin vs Ethereum (00:42:01)
Importance of STARKs (00:42:45)
Closing Remarks (00:43:27)
F/Dev, also known as 1440000bytes or simply "Floppy", is an open source developer best known for his work on Joinstr: a CoinJoin implementation for Electrum wallet. In this episode, he talks about Bitcoin privacy & his new job at LayerTwo Labs.
Time stamps:
Mr. Floppy's Work on CoinJoin (00:01:31) Discusses the implementation of CoinJoin feature in Electrum wallet and the challenges faced.
Differences in CoinJoin Protocols (00:04:02)
User Reception and Usage of CoinJoin (00:06:35)
Challenges and Social Dynamics in Bitcoin Community (00:11:45)
State of Lightning Network (00:22:06)
Mr. Floppy's Employment at LayerTwo Labs (00:18:22)
LayerTwo Labs and Lightning Network Critique (00:21:23)
Client Protections (00:29:26)
Custodial Wallet Risks (00:30:41)
Custodial Wallet Misconceptions (00:32:07)
CoinJoin and Scaling (00:33:42)
Privacy and Custody (00:35:13)
Zero Knowledge Proofs (00:37:44)
Soft Forks and Bitcoin Upgrades (00:41:44)
Bitcoin Culture and Development (00:44:26)
Bitcoin Upgrades and Soft Forks (00:54:29)
Soft Fork Preferences (00:57:57)
Quantum Resistance and Covenants (01:00:09)
Custodial Wallets and Adoption (01:02:20)
Bitcoin Privacy Tools (01:04:57)
Confidentiality and Fungibility (01:08:04)
Running a Full Node (01:15:08)
Node Politicization (01:18:21)
Bitcoin's Evolution and Narrative (01:21:42)
Custodial and Non-Custodial Solutions (01:24:01)
Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Community (01:26:02)
Bitcoin Community Dynamics (01:28:50)
Freedom of Expression (01:33:57)
Litecoin and HODL Culture (01:34:18)
Centralization in Bitcoin Development (01:40:58)
Scaling with Drivechains (01:43:51)
Influencers and Opinions (01:47:51)
Future Work and Contact Information (01:49:28)
Colin Harper is a veteran Bitcoin journalist, who is known for the well-researched articles that he wrote for Coin Central, Bitcoin Magazine, Compass Mining, and Blockspace Media. More recently, he became the co-host of the Blockspace Podcast.
In this episode, we talk about Colin's insights into Bitcoin mining, the relevance of the recently-revealed Epstein files, and his approach to doing journalism.
Time stamps:
00:01:12 Reminiscing Berlin & Early Bitcoin Conferences
00:02:17 Marxism, Socialism, and Bitcoin’s Political Spectrum
00:04:00 Bitcoin’s Current State & Market Sentiment
00:06:48 Four-Year Cycle & Institutional Adoption
00:07:54 Global Macroeconomics & Liquidity Issues
00:09:43 Quantum Computing Threats & Upcoming OP_NEXT Conference
00:11:52 Exponential Technologies & Market Perception
00:13:38 Braiins BMM & Hashpower
00:15:06 Cloud Mining & Hash Power Marketplace
00:17:33 Mining Revenue, Hash Price, and Market Trends
00:18:20 Block Space Podcast Evolution & US Mining Shift
00:20:20 US Power Grid, Renewables, and Mining Economics
00:24:49 Public Miners, Shareholder Duties, and ASIC Depreciation
00:27:49 Mining Revenue, Ordinals, and Layer 2s
00:38:41 Stablecoins, Bitcoin’s Use Case, and Payments
00:45:42 Paper Bitcoin Summer & Treasury Companies
00:48:04 Treasury Company Capital Structures & Market Impact
00:58:08 Michael Saylor, Leverage, and Market Psychology
01:03:38 Epstein Files, Bitcoin Developers, and MIT Media Lab
01:16:51 Epstein, Block Size Wars, and Regulatory Influence
01:19:48 Closing Remarks & Podcast Plugs
Lately, Cake Wallet has become the Swiss Army knife for privacy-preserving cryptocurrencies — a description that should be an oxymoron. CEO Vik Sharma joins the show in order to explain how the project went from only supporting Monero to branching out into Bitcoin, Litecoin, Ethereum, Decred, Nano, and now Zcash and the Lightning network. Did he betray the Monero community?
Time stamps:
00:01:16 – Introducing Vik Sharma
00:02:13 – Challenges of Podcasting & Sponsorship
00:03:16 – Lightning Network Integration in Cake Wallet
00:03:49 – Lightning Network Beta & Release Plans
00:04:26 – Technical Approach to Lightning Integration
00:05:25 – Multi-Coin & Lightning Support
00:06:32 – New Cake Wallet UI Overhaul
00:08:01 – Switching Between Bitcoin and Lightning
00:09:29 – Community Reactions & Tribalism
00:10:53 – Decision-Making & Adding Coins
00:12:47 – In-House Development Philosophy
00:14:00 – Zcash Integration Process
00:15:13 – Wallet Features: Node Connections & Privacy
00:16:37 – User Experience & Privacy Features
00:19:04 – Swap Providers & Tor Support
00:21:08 – Cake Pay: Gift Cards & Crypto Payments
00:22:25 – Gift Card Use Cases & Community Reception
00:24:19 – Payment Statistics & 80% Monero Dominance
00:25:52 – Zcash Community Skepticism & Open Source Trust
00:26:43 – Tribalism, Criticism, and Community Culture
00:36:13 – History of Zcash Integration & Domain Sales
00:42:11 – Exchange Listings & Monero Market Decentralization
01:03:44 – Bitcoin Security Budget & Multi-Coin World
01:06:58 – Monero Community Culture & Early Bitcoin Parallels
01:18:13 – Litecoin, Dogecoin, and Altcoin Experimentation
01:25:25 – Cake Wallet’s Growth & Monero Ecosystem
01:30:43 – Concerns About Cake's Market Dominance in Monero
01:33:24 – Upcoming Features: Lightning, Binance Chain, Desktop Focus
01:36:57 – Traditional Finance Integration & Future Plans
01:39:37 – AI in Wallets & User Suggestions
01:41:56 – Closing Remarks & Community Engagement
Over the last 6 months, Paul Sztorc has compiled an impressive list of inconsistencies and significant losses from the Bitcoin maximalist camp. He referred to them as ”derangements” and we cover most of them in this brutally honest wakeup call.
Read Paul's article: https://www.truthcoin.info/blog/derangements/
Time stamps:
00:01:16 Introduction & Article Overview
00:02:41 Defining Derangements
00:05:31 Truth vs. Loyalty in Bitcoin Culture
00:09:55 Leadership Void & Bitcoin Core Stagnation
00:14:25 Consensus, Soft Forks, and Governance
00:17:46 Block Size Wars & Scaling Debates
00:19:11 Bitcoin Cash, Competition, and Signaling Theory
00:27:27 Bitcoin SV, Craig Wright, and Cultural Derangements
00:31:52 Lightning Network as a Sacred Cow
00:41:14 Treasury Companies & Michael Saylor
00:51:37 Layer Two Labs & Scaling Solutions
00:54:16 Drivechain, Quantum Resistance, and L2 Competition
01:07:24 Soft Forks, BIP Process, and Development Paralysis
01:11:41 Ordinals, NFTs, and Filtering Debates
01:22:36 Attacks on Developers & Community Toxicity
01:25:24 CTV, Jeremy Rubin, and Soft Fork Misunderstandings
01:41:24 Ethereum, Altcoins, and Market Competition
01:51:16 Mining, Miners’ Apathy, and Industry Scaling
02:03:09 Libbitcoin vs. Bitcoin Core
02:17:46 Final Rotation & Store of Value vs. Medium of Exchange
02:35:08 Non-Mined L2s, Rollups, and Miner Incentives
02:52:05 Purity Tests & Cancel Culture in Bitcoin
03:08:35 SegWit Discount & Taproot Critique
03:26:23 Address Formats, BIP47, and UX Derangements
03:36:50 Silent Payments, BIP47 & Privacy Features
03:55:05 Bitcoin Maximalism, Post-Maximalism, and Ideology
03:57:47 Game Theory, Politics, and Drivechain Criticism
04:00:14 Conclusion & Final Thoughts
Robin Linus, Liam Eagen, Ying Tong Lai are the co-founders of {ideal}: an initiative which recently created Argo: a garble circuits scheme which enabled 2000x efficiency gains for BitVM. The group aims to use cryptography in order to advance privacy and scalability in Bitcoin.
Time stamps:
00:01:17 Introducing Liam Eagen, Robin Linus & Ying Tang Lai
00:02:17 Origin of Ideal Group & Naming
00:05:03 Funding, Investors & Bootstrapping
00:06:43 Comparison to Other Teams & Technical Progress
00:09:52 Challenges in Auditing & Implementation
00:12:10 Rapid Progress in BitVM & Garbled Circuits
00:14:37 Defining BitVM & Use Cases
00:19:24 BitVM, Soft Forks, and Bitcoin Upgrades
00:23:03 Ideal Solution for Bitcoin Upgrades
00:25:17 Simplicity, Covenants, and Script Upgrades
00:27:06 Favorite Michael Saylor Analogies & Podcast Ads
00:32:47 Bitcoin Maximalism, ETFs, and Institutionalization
00:37:17 Privacy, Censorship Resistance, and Fungibility
00:40:06 Blockchain Analysis & Privacy Risks
00:41:30 Shielded Client-Side Validation & Privacy Protocols
00:45:57 Zcash, Private Pools, and Inflation Bugs
00:51:45 Soft Forks vs. Embedded Consensus for Privacy
01:01:34 Quantum Computing Threats & Post-Quantum Cryptography
01:17:37 Freezing Satoshi’s Coins & UTXO Expiry
01:23:32 Block Space Demand, Ordinals, and Collectibles
01:25:44 Rollups, Block Space, and Bitcoin Culture
01:33:23 Argo: The New Garbling Scheme
01:38:05 Monero, Privacy Coins, and Community Ethos
01:40:25 Future Vision for Bitcoin
01:42:38 STARKs, SNARKs, and Zero-Knowledge Proofs
01:50:08 Conferences, Community, and Outreach
01:58:11 Ideal Project Status, Mainnet, and Naming
02:00:05 Closing Remarks & How to Follow {ideal}
Andrey Sabelnikov and Valeriy Pisarkov are the core devs of Zano: a privacy network which enables users to create tokens with privacy. The project's mix of Cryptonote and Zarcanum protocols can also enable private transfers of bridged BTC.
In this episode, we talk about how this system works and we inquire about the tradeoffs involved.
Time stamps:
00:01:51 – Introduction & Setting the Record Straight
00:02:51 – Val & Andre’s Backgrounds, CryptoNote Origins
00:03:53 – Problems with Bytecoin & Monero’s Launch
00:05:28 – Zano’s Strategic Directions & AI Security Challenges
00:08:51 – Val’s Role in Zano & Technical Evolution
00:13:45 – Network-Level Privacy Incident
00:19:15 – Proof-of-Work vs. Proof-of-Stake Privacy
00:24:11 – Zano vs. Monero: Not a Fork
00:29:22 – Monero Community Criticism & Scam Allegations
00:40:44 – Boolberry Project & Coin Swap
00:43:36 – Premine & Staking Controversy
00:48:29 – Tribalism & Ideology in Privacy Coins
00:53:21 – Differences Between Boolberry and Zano
00:57:32 – Wallet Support vs. Exchange Listings
01:01:03 – Exchange Listing Challenges & Gateway Addresses
01:04:20 – Gateway Addresses & Hard Fork 6
01:11:52 – Upcoming Roadmap: Proof-of-Stake & Full Chain Membership Proofs
01:17:40 – Bridging Bitcoin & Confidential Assets
01:27:52 – Asset Whitelisting & Stablecoin Risks
01:41:01 – Confidential Layer Bridge & Multi-Party Computation
01:51:21 – Zano’s Scalability, Throughput, and Future Vision
01:59:08 – Full Chain Membership Proofs & Quantum Resistance
02:09:17 – Tech Stack Choices & Adaptability
02:27:07 – Why Be Bullish on Zano?
02:54:48 – DeFi Listings, Gateway Addresses, and Privacy Trade-offs
03:19:59 – Network-Level Privacy, Dandelion, and Mixnets
03:26:46 – VPNs, Network Privacy Tools, and Community Integration
03:44:03 – Personal Stories, Early Computing, and Closing Remarks
Tyler Spalding is a 2011 bitcoiner whose main focus is payments. As the co-founder and former CEO of Flexa, he has a very unique insight on the cryptocurrency industry. This episode was recorded on the road after visiting the Bear Sanctuary in Romania.
00:00:47 – Introduction & Tyler’s Visit to Romania
Tyler discusses his trip to Romania, the bear sanctuary, and his passion for supporting bears globally.
00:04:11 – Background: NASA, Payments, and Early Tech Career
Tyler shares his background in aerospace engineering, work at NASA, and transition into software and payments.
00:10:09 – Discovering Bitcoin & Early Involvement
Tyler recounts learning about Bitcoin in 2011, reading the white paper, and early mining experiences.
00:12:26 – Bitcoin as Payments vs. Store of Value
Tyler explains his initial focus on Bitcoin as a payment system and how his views evolved over time.
00:17:26 – Money, Debt, and the Nature of Currency
Discussion on the historical relationship between money and debt, and how Bitcoin fits into this context.
00:20:44 – Bitcoin as Commodity, Not Money
Tyler argues Bitcoin is more like digital gold than money, and discusses synthetic assets and stablecoins.
00:22:59 – The One Token Dilemma & Use Cases
Exploration of Bitcoin’s dual role as payment and store of value, and the resulting community debates.
00:28:46 – Spending Bitcoin: Early Purchases & Experiences
Tyler shares stories about spending Bitcoin, including buying Cubs World Series tickets and other goods.
00:35:38 – Freedom of Choice & Critique of Maximalism
Tyler advocates for utility maximalism and criticizes toxic Bitcoin maximalism and intolerance toward altcoins.
00:39:25 – Bitcoin’s Usefulness & 21 Million Narrative
Debate on what makes Bitcoin useful, the 21 million supply, and the impact of other crypto projects.
00:41:59 – Altcoins’ Positive Impact on Bitcoin
Tyler explains how Ethereum and other projects have benefited Bitcoin’s growth and adoption.
00:45:38 – Digital Gold Narrative & Custodianship
Discussion on the digital gold narrative, Bitcoin’s slow/expensive transactions, and the rise of custodians.
00:47:42 – Podcast Sponsors & Wallets
Host and Tyler discuss various sponsors, wallets, and services in the crypto ecosystem.
00:55:26 – Use Case Magazine & Documenting Crypto Adoption
Tyler introduces his magazine “Use Case,” which documents real-world crypto use cases and includes a hardware wallet.
01:00:48 – Blocksize Wars: Big Blocks vs. Store of Value
Tyler reflects on the blocksize wars, his initial support for big blocks, and how his views have changed.
01:09:47 – Forked Coins & Handling BCH
Tyler discusses his approach to Bitcoin Cash after the fork and the uncertainty at the time.
01:17:33 – Bitcoin Cash, Scaling, and Miner Dynamics
Analysis of Bitcoin Cash’s technical progress, miner incentives, and its ongoing relevance.
01:23:10 – Multiple Currencies & Historical Parallels
Comparison of today’s crypto landscape to historical periods with many local currencies.
01:27:47 – Bitcoin’s Uniqueness & Market Realities
Debate on whether Bitcoin is truly unique and the challenges of paper Bitcoin and institutional adoption.
01:30:03 – Network Usage vs. Price Focus
Tyler emphasizes the importance of real network usage and adoption over price speculation.
01:31:59 – Crypto Celebrities & Community Engagement
Stories about working with celebrities and community members in crypto promotional campaigns.
01:46:08 – Five Legitimate Altcoins & Decentralization
Tyler lists Ethereum, Zcash, Solana, and others as legitimate projects, and discusses what makes a project a scam.
02:11:55 – Monero, Zano, and Privacy Coins
Discussion of Monero, Zano, and the technical and community differences among privacy coins.
02:20:58 – Current Projects: Flexa, AMP, and Anvil
Tyler describes his ongoing work with Flexa, AMP, and the Anvil DeFi protocol for collateral management.
02:26:05 – Proof of Stake vs. Proof of Work
Tyler explains his preference for proof of stake, its security model, and critiques of Bitcoin’s mining centralization.
02:36:08 – Bitcoin Fork Thought Experiment: Privacy & Quantum Resistance
Speculation on forking Zcash with Bitcoin’s UTXO set for privacy and quantum resistance.
02:43:19 – Quantum Threats & Migration Challenges
Discussion on quantum computing risks, migration strategies, and contentious issues around lost coins.
02:51:55 – Lightning Network, Fees, and Network Security
Critique of Lightning Network’s usability, fee model, and long-term security challenges for Bitcoin.
03:03:00 – If Tyler Could Change One Thing: Privacy
Tyler would add privacy to Bitcoin, arguing it’s essential for real-world payments.
03:05:05 – Bitcoin’s Future & Open Source Innovation
Tyler’s outlook on Bitcoin’s next 15 years, open source growth, and the importance of real-world utility.
03:09:48 – How to Use Flexa Today
Practical advice on using Flexa for payments, wallet integrations, and the importance of merchant acceptance.
03:16:36 – Conclusion & Code Word
Wrap-up, thanks, and the code word “urs” (Romanian for bear) for listeners who made it to the end.
Lately, Bruce Fenton has been on fire with his characterization of Bitcoin sellouts who put on suits in order to appeal to institutional investors. Cordially, these people are referred to as ”suitcoiners” -- and in this episode we're roasting them.
Time stamps:
00:01:16 Introducing Bruce Fenton, the Wall Street guy who's turned into a cypherpunk
00:02:04 Bruce Fenton's Journey from Wall Street to Cypherpunk
00:02:36 Tokenization, Ravencoin & Bitcoin Maximalism
00:03:26 Early Bitcoin Ethos of Self-Sovereignty
00:09:53 Hal Finney’s Vision for Bitcoin-Backed Banking
00:11:25 Bruce Fenton's Senate Campaign & Political Disillusionment
00:12:19 Limits of Political Change & The Swamp
00:16:25 Generational Shifts & Aging OGs
00:18:06 Campaign Funding with Bitcoin
00:21:14 Bruce Fenton's Filibuster Record
00:23:06 Video Games & Economics
00:28:42 Bitcoin as MMORPG
00:32:20 Maximalism & Community Schisms
00:40:09 5 Altcoins That Aren't Scams
00:45:51 Attack Vectors & Centralization
00:55:17 Legal Risks & Suppression
01:06:01 Libertarian Martyrs: A Tribute to Irwin Schiff, conviction, and cost of principles
01:09:05 Bitcoin Treasury Companies Critique
01:11:33 ETF Hype & Alienation
01:13:46 Store of Value vs Sound Money
01:28:21 Lightning Network Issues
01:31:31 Decline in Payments
01:32:20 Block Size Wars. Lost Innovation & Brain Drain
01:51:16 Satoshi’s Roundtable History
02:02:45 Satoshi's Roundtable Impact
02:03:50 Moving to Dubai
02:27:07 Libertarianism and UAE
02:38:49 Cypherpunk Revival
02:42:00 Early Bitcoin Resources
02:47:37 Tribalism & Open Source
03:00:11 Closing Thoughts
Moonsettler is a bitconer who adheres to the old school cypherpunk values and believes that the best way ahead is to enable OP_CTV (BIP119) or LNHANCE.
However, the biggest problem is the generalized loss of focus. If last year there seemed to be consensus that Bitcoin needs covenants to improve scalability and bring new use cases, now the landscape is rather gloomy. Even Moonsettler changed his Twitter screen name to Doomsettler, as a reflection on this status quo.
00:01:16 Welcome Moonsettler (Doomsettler)
00:02:40 Delayed Interview and Original eCash Debate
00:03:14 Why eCash (Chaumian Cash) Never Took Off
00:04:00 Criticism of Custodial Scaling Solutions
00:05:14 Bitcoin as Decentralized Chaumian eCash
00:06:13 Fake Austrian Economics and Full Reserve Myths
00:08:32 Loss of "No Trusted Third Parties" Culture
00:09:52 Verifiable Supply vs Historical Fraud
00:13:40 Proof of Liabilities in eCash Mints
00:15:42 Cashu Fraud Proofs and Bug Bounty
00:18:20 Chaumian Blind Signatures Explained
00:24:48 Non-Custodial Credit eCash Ideas
00:30:39 Why Debit eCash Won't Scale Bitcoin
00:36:34 Bitcoin Like Linux – Oppose Custodial Layers
00:37:13 Unlimited Paper Bitcoin vs 21M Cap
00:41:25 Loss of Proof of Keys Culture
00:46:26 Doomsettler Mindset on Bitcoin's Future
01:09:30 Early Exchange Compliance Issues
01:11:37 Satoshi's Peer-to-Peer Vision
01:15:13 Satoshi's OPSEC and Disappearance
01:19:13 Craig Wright Not Satoshi
01:26:05 Libertaria and Frontier Culture
01:28:31 No More Frontiers for Freedom
01:39:21 App Delistings and PWA Debate
01:49:16 Twitter Worse Under Elon Musk
01:55:35 AI Ruining Internet Trust
01:56:33 Introduction to Covenants
01:57:04 Covenant = Unbreakable Promise
02:00:55 History of Covenant Discussions
02:01:29 Permanent Encumbrance FUD Debunked
02:03:38 Control Today via Multisig (No Covenants)
02:07:26 Covenants Don't Break Fungibility
02:08:35 Covenants Reduce Trust in L2
02:11:46 Post-Quantum Covenant Advantages
02:13:46 OP_CTV Explained
02:15:42 Non-Interactive L2 Settlements
02:20:23 Congestion Control with Covenants
02:29:08 Ordinals Drama & OP_CAT Risks
02:31:43 Jeremy Rubin Context
02:33:49 LNHANCE Package (CTV + More)
02:36:51 Why LNHANCE is Conservative
02:44:26 2022 CTV Activation Drama
02:47:27 Curiosity vs Annoyance Motivation
02:49:04 Andreas Antonopoulos FUD Clip
02:51:15 Need for Covenant FUD FAQ
02:53:47 Persistent CTV Critics
03:55:27 Covenant FUD Knowledge Base Need
03:56:26 Steven Roose Support
03:57:40 Covenant Table on Wiki
03:58:56 Isolated Op Code Comparisons Issues
04:00:34 OPCAT vs CTV Preferences
04:01:48 Table Inconsistencies
04:02:19 Ordinals Devs Pushing OPCAT
04:03:26 CTV Strengths and Risks
04:10:22 Ideal Packages (Great Script Restoration)
04:43:24 Pink Floyd "The Wall" Analogy
04:45:49 Citadel Critique
04:49:49 Need for New Frontiers
04:51:56 Disagreeable Societies Preserve Freedom
04:54:56 Special Economic Zones for Renewal
04:57:50 Altcoins as Competition/Experiments
04:59:20 Privacy Coins Driving Response
06:00:34 Monero Privacy & Community
06:04:42 FCMP++ Upgrade
06:05:37 Monero Quantum Roadmap
06:07:16 Quantum Risks to Monero
06:09:47 Zcash Preference & Compatibility
06:11:34 ZK Privacy Advantages
06:13:16 Drivechains & Peg Risks
06:17:45 Spacechains
06:20:31 Quantum Threats to ECDSA
06:26:49 PQ Soft/Hard Fork Debate
06:34:57 Covenants for PQ Vaults
06:38:14 Ark Protocol
06:42:33 Lightning Custodial Risks
06:50:19 BitVM & Optimistic Rollups
06:55:44 Bitcoin Dev Culture Disappointment
07:49:05 Austrian vs Cypherpunk Values
07:53:20 Austrians Dislike Data
07:54:39 Full Reserve Myth
07:55:56 Core Dev Covenant Silence
07:57:32 Core Ignoring Covenants
07:58:22 Floppy's Drunk Posting
08:00:38 Calle's Cashu Story
08:02:02 Privacy Respect & Avoiding Doxing
08:02:29 Floppy's Drunk Tweets
08:03:48 Tolerance for Abusive Behavior
08:04:15 Understanding Non-Engagement with Floppy
08:04:32 Floppy as Builder (Joinstr Plugin)
08:04:57 Luke Dashjr Funding Complaints
08:05:23 Luke's Likability & Hack
08:06:36 Ocean Mining Business Model
08:08:36 Reducing Antpool Hash Dominance
08:08:56 Miner Template Building Debate
08:09:02 Mining Centralization Concerns
09:38:04 9+ Hour Marathon Reflection
09:38:45 Girlfriend & Cat Interruptions
09:39:12 How to Follow Moonsettler
09:39:45 Moonsettler's Twitter Content Focus
09:40:38 Shoutout to SimulXXX (CTV Advocate)
09:41:29 Moonsettler as Crypto Hobbyist
09:42:37 Major Contributions Discussion
09:43:38 Non-Interactive Hardware Wallet Proofs
09:44:36 Sharing Personal Bitcoin Vision
09:45:14 Coldcard Experimental Implementation
10:03:18 Seed Backup Durability & Preference for Burnable Paper Backups
10:04:22 Manual Entropy & Seed Splitting
10:05:01 Early Self-Custody Cheat Sheets
10:05:25 Hardware Wallet Entropy Risks
10:06:30 Dice-Rolled Seeds vs Hardware
10:07:27 2-of-3 Backup Scheme
10:07:59 Crypto Steel Promo
10:08:24 10-Hour Mark, No Bathroom Break
10:08:49 Thanks & Merry Christmas
10:09:41 Next Episode Tease
Alex Chepurnoy is a cryptographer & researcher who famously wrote a Bitcoin client in Haskell in only 3600 lines of code. He is currently working on Ergo, a proof of work blockchain which improves upon Bitcoin's design in order to achieve smart contracts and DeFi. How does it work? Let's find out!
Time stamps:
00:01:11 Introducing Alex Chepurnoy
00:01:51 Alex’s Bitcoin Discovery & Early Development
00:02:37 Namecoin, SmartContract.com, and Cardano Involvement
00:05:15 Satoshi Theories & Code Analysis
00:07:00 Rewriting Bitcoin & Distributed Systems Perspective
00:08:39 Consensus Protocols & Altcoin Proliferation
00:10:20 Bitcoin’s Early Appeal & Peer-to-Peer Motivation
00:14:08 Bitcoin’s Revolutionary Monetary Model
00:15:45 Staying in Crypto: Problems to Solve
00:17:19 Bitcoin as Digital Gold & Smart Contracts
00:21:29 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Contractual Capabilities
00:23:02 Ergo’s Approach: Contracts & Protocol Upgrades
00:26:56 Namecoin’s History & Technical Innovations
00:31:10 Merged Mining & Sidechain Politics
00:34:35 Early Bitcoin Contributions & BTC Scala Client
00:38:49 Conference Presentations & ZeroJoin
00:41:49 Demurrage, Storage Rent, and Bitcoin Upgrades
00:45:01 NFTs, Inscriptions, and Bitcoin Community Divisions
00:50:10 Hard Forks, Immutability, and Ethereum Classic
00:55:17 Markets, Transaction Fees, and Bitcoin’s Security Budget
00:57:59 Lightning Network Limitations & Off-Chain Cash
01:01:58 Challenging Bitcoin’s Scaling & Off-Chain Solutions
01:06:38 Ergo’s Protocol Design & Civil War Lessons
01:08:25 Ergo’s Innovations for Bitcoin
01:15:38 Quantum Resistance & Hard Fork Challenges
01:19:51 Consensus Cleanup & Upgrade Difficulties
01:23:10 Community Proposals & Development Gridlock
01:25:07 Alex’s Tech Stack & Personal Devices
01:31:07 Satoshi’s Identity & Coding Style
01:38:34 NXT, Bitcoin 2.0, and Ethereum’s Success
01:45:35 Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake
01:50:44 Philosophy of Proof of Work & Fair Distribution
01:53:09 VCs, Token Dumps, and Proof of Work Revival
01:54:16 Proof of Stake Attacks & Network Resilience
01:59:20 Ergo’s Network Parameters & Smart Contracts
02:21:17 Privacy Features: Mixers & Stealth Addresses
02:28:40 Monetary Policy, Emission, and Pre-mine
02:34:09 Monero vs. Zcash: Community & Funding
02:48:03 Bridging Blockchains & Rosen Bridge
02:51:04 Peer-to-Peer Finance & Smart Contract Design
02:53:57 Future Vision: Interconnected PoW Blockchains
02:56:41 Double Merged Mining Sidechains
03:17:45 Community Resources & Getting Involved
03:20:11 Conclusion & Final Thoughts
David Bailey is the chairman of Bitcoin Magazine, the organizer of the most successful series of Bitcoin conferences, and the mastermind behind the Nakamoto BTC treasury company. In this episode, we talk about his latest business dealings and the current state of the Bitcoin bull market.
Time stamps:
00:01:47 Bitcoin Magazine’s Bitcoin-Only Pivot
00:02:17 Surviving 2018 and the COVID Pivot
00:04:09 Scaling Up: Conferences and Global Expansion
00:05:11 Bringing Politicians to Bitcoin
00:07:35 Trump’s Embrace of Bitcoin and Global Perception
00:09:48 Bitcoin Price Expectations and Political Impact
00:10:56 Presidential Pardons and the Lack of a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve
00:14:10 Trump Meme Coins and Industry Signals
00:17:07 Privacy, Regulation, and Privacy Acceleration Thanks to Zcash
00:20:53 Nakamoto Stock Price and Public Company Challenges
00:23:00 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: Purpose and Model
00:24:40 Evolution of Bitcoin Financialization (Banks, ETFs, Strategic Reserves, Reserve Companies)
00:35:42 David Bailey Addresses Accusations of Mismanagement
00:44:00 Bitcoin Price, Narratives, and Community Factions
00:45:05 Bullish Narratives and Breaking the Four-Year Cycle
00:46:21 Core vs. Knots: Development and Forks
00:49:35 Bitcoin Improvement Proposals and Development Stagnation
00:50:28 Jeremy Rubin in the Epstein Files, Bitcoin's Public Perception
00:54:01 Trump, Epstein, and Political Distractions
00:55:00 Bitcoin.com’s Shift and Roger Ver Reflections
01:01:48 BCH Fork, Losses, and Historical Lessons
01:02:41 Conspiracy Theories: Censorship and Satoshi’s Coins Post-Quantum
01:05:00 Quantum Risk and Bitcoin’s Long-Term Security
01:10:24 Altcoins: Legitimacy and Usefulness
01:18:11 Ethereum, Solana, and Bitcoin’s Competitive Edge
01:22:27 Bitcoin’s Youth and Historical Significance
01:22:58 Operation Choke Point 3.0 and Wall Street Resistance
01:30:20 Would David Bailey Become Crypto Czar?
01:34:04 Why Invest in Nakamoto?
01:37:28 Comparing Treasury Companies
01:40:28 If You Could Change One Thing in Bitcoin: Drivechains
01:42:03 Security Budget, Scaling, and Miner Incentives
01:46:50 Bitcoin Price Predictions and the Four-Year Cycle
01:55:02 Social Media, Narratives, and Bitcoin Culture
01:58:24 Bitcoin as Money and Regulatory Setbacks
02:03:13 Closing Thoughts and Pardons
Abdel is one of the most prolific developers in the Zero Knowledge space. Since our conversation in September, he was able to accomplish so much that he requested another interview to talk about it. So what happened with ZK STARKs that is so important?
Time stamps:
00:01:04 Podcast Introduction & Sponsor Acknowledgments
00:02:15 Vlad's Rant on Bitcoin Media & Podcast Landscape
00:03:24 Bitcoin Takeover Podcast Mission & Seven-Year Anniversary
00:04:39 Transition to Abdel’s Updates & ZK-STARKS
00:05:44 Abdel’s Zcash & Bitcoin Proposals
00:07:00 Comparing Bitcoin and Zcash Community Reactions
00:08:36 Altcoins as Experimentation Grounds
00:11:23 Scaling, Rollups, and Drivechains
00:13:10 Abdel’s Proposal for Native STARK Verification
00:17:19 Zcash’s TDE and Layer 2 Possibilities
00:19:22 ZK-Rollups, Privacy, and Regulatory Pressures
00:21:02 Government Surveillance & KYC Concerns
00:24:26 Cultural Stigma Around Bitcoin Privacy
00:25:34 Zcash’s SEC Presentation & Institutional Acceptance
00:28:58 Debate on Privacy, Transparency, and Backdoors
00:30:00 Bitcoin’s Social Layer & Governance
00:32:47 Critique of Bitcoin Perfectionism & Altcoin Dismissal
00:35:49 Bitcoin’s Mission: P2P Cash vs. Store of Value
00:36:49 Learning from Ethereum & Second-Layer Innovations
00:37:24 Sponsor Plugs & BTCfi Introduction
00:40:14 BTCfi: Bitcoin Staking & Yield Mechanisms
00:46:15 Bridging BTC to StarkNet & Atomic Swaps
00:48:36 BTCfi: KYC, Permissionless DeFi, and Institutional Offerings
00:50:59 DeFi Risks & Bitcoin Staking Security
00:51:40 ZK-STARK Verifiers on Bitcoin Cash
00:53:10 Bitcoin Cash, Zcash, and Social Layer Value
00:58:54 Bitcoin Cash’s Technical Innovations & Community Dynamics
01:00:04 Quantum Resistance: Investor Fears & Satoshi’s Coins
01:02:29 Quantum Threat Timeline & Migration Planning
01:10:25 Quantum-Resistant Signatures & Scalability Trade-offs
01:11:20 Hard Fork vs. Soft Fork for Quantum Resistance
01:13:08 Consensus, Confiscation Proposals, and Social Risks
01:17:56 Stagnation in Bitcoin Development & Altcoin Innovation
01:23:12 Ethereum’s Role in Crypto Ecosystem
01:25:24 Zcash’s Dual Incentives & Institutional Recognition
01:28:08 Zcash’s Future: Innovation vs. Ossification
01:30:39 Sponsor Plugs: Noones & SideShift
01:33:42 Quantum Resistance Migration: Hard Fork Efficiency
01:37:11 Bitcoin’s Future: Security, Consensus, and Upgrades
01:43:09 Bull Markets, Technological Breakthroughs, and Lightning
01:45:18 Lightning’s Shift to B2B & Retail Challenges
01:47:02 Bitcoin Treasury Companies & Business Models
01:49:18 Seinfeld Analogy & Bitcoin’s Societal Impact
01:52:11 Magic Wand: Abdel’s One Change for Bitcoin
01:54:03 Legitimate Altcoins & Project Criteria
01:57:16 Monero, Kaspa, Litecoin, and Altcoin Usefulness
02:02:06 ZK-STARKs: Complementary or Standard?
02:06:21 ZK-STARKs for Fast Bitcoin Syncing
02:10:27 Call for Wallet Integration & User Experience
02:14:08 Bull Bitcoin Wallet & Open Source Security
02:22:02 Freedom Tech, Nostr, and ZK for Sovereignty
02:26:02 ZK-STARKs: Career Opportunities & Verification
02:28:41 Outro & Listener Easter Egg
Alan Szepieniec is a cryptographer & systems architect who specializes in Zero Knowledge proofs. He created Neptune Cash, a L1 network which combines ZK STARKs with Proof of Work in order to have a money system that's private, scalable & quantum resistant.
Time stamps:
00:00:00 Intro & Sponsors
00:02:30 Welcome Alan Szepieniec
00:03:02 Alan's Background in Cryptography & Libertarianism
00:05:15 Path to Bitcoin & Privacy Disillusionment
00:07:30 Privacy as Essential for Fungible Money
00:09:44 Network-Level Privacy & Censorship Resistance
00:12:15 Debate on Privacy Improvements in Bitcoin
00:14:01 Scalability Trade-offs with Recursive ZK Proofs
00:17:26 Lightning Network Privacy Limitations
00:22:39 Lightning's Potential for High-Frequency Trading
00:26:41 Custodial Risks & ZK-Proven Custodians
00:31:21 Sponsor: Unstoppable Wallet
00:33:17 Sponsor: Sideshift.ai
00:34:20 ZK-STARKs Explained & vs ZK-SNARKs
00:36:12 Quantum Resistance & Transparent Setup
00:41:56 Drivechains (BIP 300) & STARK Integration Potential
00:44:58 OP_CAT vs Custom Opcodes for STARK Verification
00:49:46 Why Coinjoins Aren't Sufficient for Privacy
00:56:27 Lightning's Unique Privacy Properties
00:56:50 Halo 2 & Removing Trusted Setup from SNARKs
00:58:44 Zcash L2 on Starknet
01:00:26 Why ZK-STARKs on Layer 1
01:03:20 Neptune Cash: Privacy, Scalability & Smart Contracts
01:07:33 Custom STARK Engine & Assembler Language
01:09:09 Proof-of-Work Design & GPU Mining
01:14:08 Inflation Bug & Network Relaunch
01:17:13 Decentralization Roadmap
01:19:00 Current Drawbacks: UX & Proof Generation
01:22:39 Node & Transaction Hardware Requirements
01:29:36 Quantum Computing Threats Discussion
01:33:01 Satoshi's Coins & Quantum Risks
01:36:38 Store of Value vs Medium of Exchange
01:43:13 Regulations Hurting Adoption
01:45:40 Monero Talk & Signatureless Transactions
01:47:58 Monero vs Bitcoin Communities
01:54:06 Adding Lightning Network to Neptune Cash
01:55:06 Lightning Network & Atomic Swaps Potential
01:56:48 Removing Centralized Exchanges via Bridges
01:57:17 Neptune Cash Lightning Network Plans
01:58:36 Prioritizing Faster Proving & Smart Contracts
02:00:36 Rapid Fire: Max Supply (40.5M after burn)
02:01:24 Block Time (9.8 minutes) & Difficulty Adjustment
02:01:56 Block Size (8 MB limit)
02:02:21 Elevator Pitch for Neptune Cash
02:03:17 Sidechain/Drivechain/Rollup on Bitcoin?
02:04:33 Privacy Comparison: Neptune vs Zcash vs Monero
02:05:38 Mutator Set vs Nullifier Set Explained
02:06:48 Privacy Ratings (Zcash 8/10, Monero 9/10 future, Neptune 6-7/10 + scalability bonus)
02:09:18 Scaling Ratings (Bitcoin 9/10, Neptune 8/10 future, Zcash/Monero 6/10)
02:12:24 Price Movement During Interview & Shitcoin Debate
02:14:54 Premine vs Fair Launch Discussion
02:17:35 Ethereum Premine Success & Grin vs Beam
02:19:10 Zcash Dev Fund Model
02:22:17 Building Circular Economies & Network Effects
02:27:04 Could Bitcoin Become Like Neptune Cash?
02:30:44 Connection Issues & Wrap-Up
02:33:05 Legacy UTXOs & Quantum Vulnerability
02:35:09 Where to Follow Neptune Cash & Alan
02:37:09 Is Satoshi an AI/Time Traveler?
02:38:46 Final Thanks & Goodbye
Jonathan Bier is the author of the influential best-seller "The Blocksize War: The battle over who controls Bitcoin’s protocol rules", as well as one of the most prolific and respected researchers in Bitcoin. He is also an active investor who sits on various company boards and advises projects in the space.
In this episode, we talk about parallels between the Bitcoin scaling debate and the filter wars, but also highlight some debunked Satoshi Nakamoto claims.
Time stamps:
00:01:11 - Introducing Jonathan Bier and Blocksize War Book
00:02:44 - Meeting BitMEX Founders and Starting Research
00:05:31 - Arthur Hayes' Blog Writing and Vision
00:07:32 - BitMEX Success: Leverage, Perpetual Swaps, Troll Box
00:10:43 - FTX Copying BitMEX and Backend Issues
00:11:20 - Binance's Rise and Market Dominance
00:13:49 - BitMEX's Slow Adoption of Stablecoins
00:16:39 - Current BitMEX Volumes and Rankings
00:17:39 - History of Bitcoin Derivatives and Innovations
00:23:49 - Jonathan's First Bitcoin Encounter in 2010
00:26:12 - 2011 Bubble and Mt. Gox Scandal
00:28:02 - Views on Bitcoin Bubbles and Valuations
00:30:19 - Ad: Bitcoin.com News
00:31:00 - Layer 2 Labs Question: Is Lightning a Waste?
00:32:08 - Lightning Network Success and Limitations
00:35:02 - Scaling Challenges and Sidechains
00:37:30 - Current Filter Wars and Ordinals/Inscriptions
00:39:40 - History of Relay Policies and RBF
00:43:49 - OP_RETURN Limits and Debates
00:47:04 - Bitnod.es Website and Node Peers
00:48:39 - Ineffectiveness of Filters
00:50:00 - Super TestNet's Bandwidth Argument
00:51:42 - Generational Crusades in Bitcoin
01:01:55 - London Meetup Stories and Fanaticism
01:15:00 - Loss of Merchants Post-Blocksize War
01:18:13 - Ethereum Benefiting from Bitcoin Decisions
01:18:48 - 2014 OP_RETURN Wars and Counterparty
01:23:03 - Reasons Counterparty Failed
01:27:31 - Mastercoin, First ICO, and Omni/Tether
01:29:37 - Zcash Launch and BitMEX Futures Shenanigans
01:33:26 - Ethereum DevCon 2016 Attack Story
01:35:04 - Conferences Then vs Now
01:38:00 - Cultural Divide in Bitcoin Maxis
01:39:46 - Misconceptions About Bitcoin Core Developers
01:43:25 - Youth of Early Developers Like Tamas
01:46:59 - Criteria for Developers and Unicorn Myth
01:48:41 - Educators in Bitcoin History: From Satoshi to Saylor
01:52:05 - Dumbing Down of Bitcoin Narratives
01:55:34 - Past Idiocy and Learning Curves
01:56:50 - BIP 444 Dangers and Ineffectiveness
02:00:59 - Irony of Anti-Spam Fork and Spam Magnets
02:01:22 - Parallels to Blocksize Wars, Bitcoin Cash Price Peaks
02:03:30 - Excitement and Fear During BCH Surge
02:04:28 - Reasons Big Blockers Couldn't Compete, Craig Wright's Role
02:05:16 - Satoshi's Response to Scaling Concerns (2008)
02:06:05 - Jeff Garzik's Early Block Size Proposal (2010)
02:07:33 - Early Onchain Exchanges and Scaling Realization
02:07:58 - Defining Small Blocker vs Big Blocker
02:08:56 - Surplus Capacity in Blocks Debate
02:10:10 - Cultural Biases: Technical vs Business Sides
02:11:32 - Competent Developers on BCH Side, Inflation Bug
02:12:35 - Block Size Numbers Not the Core Issue
02:13:29 - Modern Block Size Increase Justification
02:14:15 - Hard Forks Unlikely, Quantum Signatures
02:15:03 - James O'Beirne's Block Size Presentation
02:15:54 - Filter Wars Impact on Future Changes
02:17:13 - Spam as Reason Against Block Size Increase
02:18:18 - Quantum Safe Spending Proposal
02:19:31 - Fee Market vs Crusades Against Spam
02:20:45 - Craig Wright's Unintentional Help to Small Blockers
02:22:04 - Jihan Wu's Dislike of Craig Wright
02:23:34 - ASIC Boost Role in BCH Creation
02:24:50 - Covert vs Overt ASIC Boost Explained
02:30:00 - Treasuries and MicroStrategy Debt Structures
02:35:00 - Bitcoin Treasuries vs Ponzi Schemes
02:40:00 - Balancing Professional Life and Cypherpunk Roots
02:42:31 - Advisor Roles: Bitwise, Brink, Maelstrom
02:53:16 - Privacy Tools: Payjoin, Silent Payments, CoinJoin
02:54:41 - Ethereum vs Bitcoin on Privacy Support
02:55:45 - Ross Ulbricht Pardon and Government Misconduct
03:00:13 - Curtis Green's Torture and Fake Death
03:03:00 - Aaron Swartz Comparison
03:04:29 - Cypherpunk Culture Not Scaling
03:05:53 - ETFs as Bitcoin Scaling Layer
03:07:39 - IBIT vs WBTC Similarities
03:09:00 - Three Legit Altcoins: Monero, Dogecoin, Litecoin
03:10:02 - Satoshi's Views on Block Sizes
03:11:02 - Closing and Follow Jonathan Bier
Curtis Green, better knows by OG bitcoiners as "Chronicpain" or "Flush", is a former forum moderator and website administrator of the Silk Road internet marketplace. He is a man who has mined bitcoin early enough to get scammed by Butterfly Labs, and was allegedly also the target of a bounty on assassination markets.
He's seen all eras of Bitcoin, and today he seeks to get pardoned by the Trump administration. He will accept donations from community members in order to get the legal help he needs.
Read Curtis Green's book, "Silk Road Takedown": https://www.amazon.com/dp/1729436889
Donate to Curtis Green: https://www.satlantis.io/events/1210/Evening-with-OG-Curtis-Green%2C-admin-of-The-Silk-Road
Time stamps:
00:01:18 Welcome Curtis Green, Silk Road OG
00:02:06 Seeking Clemency, Focus Shift from Ross
00:04:02 Misnomers, Site Rules & Govt Narrative
00:07:27 Bitcoin Skepticism, Forum Learning
00:11:02 PGP/Key Lessons
00:13:04 Harm Reduction Suggestion, Forum Admin
00:15:23 Freedom Emphasis, Site Growth Post-Schumer
00:17:00 Bitcoin as Freedom Tool
00:21:36 Verify Mindset
00:22:59 Mining & Gifting BTC, Family Rejection
00:26:01 Price Doubts, Ethereum Shift
00:29:02 Arrest Warning
00:33:40 Mining Fun
00:36:02 When Schumer Promoted Silk Road
00:38:17 Arrest Story, Corrupt Agents
00:39:55 BTC Theft by Shaun ridges
00:43:04 Faked Torture, Murder Threat
00:45:04 Playing Dead for 10 Months
00:48:03 Narrative Control, Cash Seizure
00:51:21 Limited DPR Info, Accusations
00:53:28 Site Takedown, Personal Hell
00:55:00 Family Struggles, Entrepreneurship
00:57:12 Book & Documentary Distortions
00:59:45 Corrupt Agents' Trials
01:02:30 Force's Extortion Attempts
01:05:15 Bridges' Theft Details
01:07:50 Sentencing, No Prison
01:10:20 Clemency Petition
01:13:45 Bitcoin Evolution Reflections
01:16:10 Mining Zcash, Privacy Views
01:19:30 Early Bitcoin Doubts
01:22:45 Forum Discussions, Community
01:25:00 Harm Reduction Impact
01:27:30 Global Revolution Hopes
01:32:03 Consensus & Debates
01:34:02 Aha Moments
01:39:01 Narrative Shaping Power
01:41:23 Life Experiences Gratitude
01:43:37 Speaking Out, Misjudgments
01:45:03 Educating on Crypto Choices
01:46:00 Future Optimism
01:47:32 Educators like Antonopoulos
01:49:52 Community Support Moments
01:52:07 Bitcoin Changes Narrative
01:53:02 Lightning Node Experience
01:55:55 Lightning Hopes & Issues
01:57:05 Wrapped BTC Concerns
01:59:14 WBTC on Ethereum Popularity
02:00:14 Block Size Debates
02:02:07 Satoshi's Scaling Views
02:04:33 Lightning Limitations
02:06:00 Scaling Consensus Challenges
02:08:44 Roger Ver's Unity Point
02:10:10 Early Empty Blocks
02:12:04 Zcash Proposal for Bitcoin
02:14:03 Sponsors: NoOnes & SideShift
02:16:42 ShapeShift Confusion
02:18:00 Tunnel Vision on BTC Amounts
02:18:07 Bitcoin Changes & Consensus Hopes
02:18:30 ETFs Caution, Mainstream Adoption
02:19:33 Peer-to-Peer Origins, Early Exchanges
02:20:05 Postal Money Orders for BTC
02:21:02 Alpaca Socks & Honey Purchases
02:21:49 Early BTC Buys, Galaxy Tab Scam
02:23:15 BTC as Tool, Not Dollars
02:24:01 Holding vs Spending
02:26:00 Early Satoshi Discussions
02:27:27 Adoption Decline Rant
02:28:22 BTC Scarcity & Usage
02:29:03 Layer 2 Hopes, Wife's Worries
02:30:05 Mining Challenges Over Time
02:31:03 Still Early in Bitcoin?
02:32:25 Satoshi's Blueprint, Competition
02:33:30 First Bitcoin Encounter
02:34:51 Silk Road Catalyst for BTC
02:35:25 Rabbit Hole Journey
02:36:31 Govt Op Doubts Nixed
02:37:02 Aha Moment in 2012
02:38:00 Grateful for Silk Road Lessons
02:39:02 Bad Rap Focus on Drugs
02:40:47 Pinnacle in BTC History
02:41:29 Speaking Out & Education
02:42:03 DPR's Clean Water Ideas
02:43:00 Zcash Mining Hype & Launch Supply Dynamics
02:45:01 Keeping ZEC, Mining Costs
02:46:09 Buying vs Mining Regrets
02:47:11 Hindsight on Holding
02:48:31 ASIC Delivery Post-Arrest
02:49:03 Keeping Quiet on Miners
02:50:07 Side Stories Justification
02:51:03 Mentality Shifts
02:52:17 Hopes for Bitcoin Win
02:53:01 Cultural vs Technical Issues
02:53:46 SegWit & Taproot Changes
02:55:38 Privacy Proposals
02:57:01 Developer Frustrations
02:58:04 Greed & Humanity Balance
02:59:20 Year-by-Year Changes
03:00:04 ETF as Scaling Layer
03:02:05 High Hopes & 21M Cap Worries
03:03:05 Verification Defeat
04:03:30 Genesis Block & Bailouts
04:04:03 Fractional Reserves Drop
04:04:38 ETF Trust Issues
04:04:52 Proof of Keys Celebration
04:05:55 Back to Banks Cycle
04:06:07 Lightning Custodial Wallets & Centralization
04:14:02 Start9 & Braiins BMM Miner
04:18:02 Home Miners Appeal
04:49:44 Guilty Plea Frustrations
04:51:18 AlphaBay Documentary & Monero Adoption
04:52:48 Dark Web Warnings
04:55:32 Trusted Escrows
04:56:47 Bitcoin Talk Scams
04:57:13 Satlantis Donations & Adopting Bitcoin Talk
Leona Hioki is the CEO, co-founder & architect of INTMAX: a ZK rollup layer 2 that focuses on private payments, scalability, and low fees. In this episode, we talk about scaling & privacy tech for Bitcoin & what we can learn from Ethereum.
Time stamps:
00:01:17 -Introducing Leona
00:02:47 - Leona Hioki's Background
00:03:38 - Discussion on Past Podcasts and Zcash Pump Dance
00:05:00 - Privacy Trends in Crypto
00:05:26 - INTMAX Overview: Privacy, Scalability, Trade-offs
00:05:44 - Client-Side Validation and ZKP in INTMAX
00:08:22 - Comparison to Zcash and RGB
00:08:46 - INTMAX on Ethereum and Potential Bitcoin Integration
00:11:02 - INTMAX vs. StarkWare
00:14:15 - Stateless vs. Stateful Systems
00:15:05 - Evolution from Plasma to INTMAX
00:18:56 - Similarities to Lightning Network
00:19:47 - Market Dynamics of Ethereum L2s
00:20:25 - ZK Rollups vs. Optimistic Rollups
00:24:45 - Fragmentation in Ethereum L2 Ecosystem
00:26:19 - Role of Money and Base Outage Concerns
00:28:03 - Trade-offs in Decentralization
00:29:34 - Differences Between Rollups and Sidechains
00:32:42 - Bitcoin Script Limitations and ZKP Verification
00:35:18 - Cultural Issues in Bitcoin Upgrades
00:36:56 - Miner Revenue and Drivechains
00:41:58 - Bitcoin in Japan and Satoshi's Name
00:43:24 - Speculation on Satoshi's Identity
00:44:48 - Early Bitcoin Community in Japan
00:45:28 - Post-2018 Regulations in Japan
00:48:37 - Moving to Switzerland for Privacy Projects
00:50:55 - Amir Taaki's Experiences
00:52:37 - Japanese Society and Libertarianism
00:56:30 - Cryptography History and Crypto Wars
01:00:22 - Podcast Milestone and Hardware Wallets
01:02:38 - Trezor Safe 5 and Quantum Resistance
01:05:58 - Quantum Computing and Privacy Risks
01:08:06 - UTXO Model and Bitcoin's Design
01:09:48 - Satoshi's Intentions and Op Codes
01:11:57 - Bitcoin as Money Network, Not Just Digital Gold
01:14:21 - Monolithic vs. Modular Blockchains
01:17:07 - Drivechains and BIP Proposals
01:20:58 - Stateless Clients for Drivechains
01:24:23 - Zcash's Potential and Comparisons to Monero
01:27:52 - Future Scenarios for Zcash
01:30:57 - Zcash vs. Monero Market Focus
01:33:39 - Client-Side Validation for Zcash
01:36:27 - Interactions with Zooko Wilcox
01:39:47 - Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake
01:46:16 - Fairness in Proof of Work
01:47:17 - Home Mining Devices
01:51:53 - Decentralizing Mining
01:53:05 - AML in INTMAX Privacy Mining
01:56:34 - Confidential Layers and Bridges
01:57:59 - Proof of Innocence in Privacy
02:00:04 - Replacing Centralized Exchanges with DEXs
02:00:48 - Uniswap and Decentralized Fiat Onramps
02:00:44 - Narrative on Zcash vs Monero Exchange Listings
02:01:04 - Zcash Listings on Major Exchanges
02:01:55 - Monero Listings and Volume
02:03:26 - Ranking of Exchanges
02:05:00 - Alternative Ways to Buy Monero
02:05:31 - Flashshift App for Swaps
02:06:34 - Zcash Support in Flashshift
02:07:15 - Zashi Wallet Features
02:08:00 - Planning Privacy Vampires Conference in Romania
02:09:58 - Vampires and Privacy Analogy
02:11:06 - Challenges of Privacy Conferences
02:12:22 - Interest in Visiting Romania and Japan
02:13:21 - Japan Recommendations and Metaplanet
02:14:15 - Japan vs Switzerland Bitcoin Culture
02:17:18 - Personal Story with Bitcoin
02:19:49 - Reactions to Bitcoin and Ethereum
02:22:27 - Bitcoin vs Ethereum Purposes
02:23:10 - Coin Distribution and Fairness
02:26:49 - Perfect System for Fairness
02:28:03 - Proof of Work Fairness
02:29:02 - Grin Fair Launch Example
02:31:07 - Premines and Dev Taxes
02:32:58 - Spreadsheet Coins and Competition
02:33:05 - Ethereum ICO Success
02:35:28 - Ethereum Competitors' Impact
02:36:50 - Zcash Dev Tax Benefits
02:38:20 - Issues with Scams in Premines
02:39:22 - Value of Experimentation
02:39:38 - Closing Remarks and Follows
02:40:55 - Thanks and Sponsors
Recently, Trezor unveiled the Safe 7: the first hardware wallet in the world to include the Tropic Square verifiable secure element chip, a true game-changer for Bitcoin security. In this episode, Matej Zak & Tomáš Sušánka explain how it works.
Buy your Trezor Safe 7 (referral link): https://affil.trezor.io/SHuM
Time stamps:
00:01:13 - Introduction to the podcast episode and guests (Matej Zak, CEO, and Tomáš Sušánka, CTO of Trezor).
00:01:34 - Discussion of the Trezor Safe 7 product launch event in Prague and the host's excitement about the Tropic Square chip.
00:01:55 - Mention of the live unboxing and potential for things to go wrong.
00:02:17 - Addressing rumors about paying influencers; clarification that no payments were made, only travel costs covered.
00:03:11 - Start of unboxing the Trezor Safe 7, focusing on packaging security and tamper-proof elements.
00:04:31 - Overview of Trezor Safe 7 features: flagship product, auditable secure element, large color touchscreen, premium build quality, Bluetooth connectivity, and quantum protections.
00:07:20 - Explanation of "quantum ready" label: Post-quantum signatures for bootloader updates and device authenticity, not full quantum-proofing for Bitcoin.
00:09:00 - Deeper dive into quantum readiness, industry trends (e.g., Cloudflare, Apple), and why it's not a gimmick.
00:12:51 - Continuation of unboxing: Tamper-proof seals, holographic stickers, and physical security layers.
00:14:18 - Confirmation that devices ship without firmware; installation happens via Trezor Suite for added security.
00:15:26 - Setup process on iPhone: Downloading the app, Bluetooth pairing, and why iPhone compatibility was prioritized.
00:16:10 - Market insights: US as the biggest market, challenges with Apple (MFi program), and opting for Bluetooth over cables.
00:18:30 - Ads segment (Sideshift.ai, Layer 2 Labs, NoOnes.com, news.bitcoin.com).
00:20:13 - Resuming app setup: Privacy options, biometrics, Bluetooth permissions, and pairing code.
00:21:42 - Counting physical security layers (five in total) and their purpose.
00:23:07 - Authenticity checks in the app: Confirming purchase source, seals, and packaging integrity.
00:24:09 - Firmware installation process and confirmation that devices ship with only bootloader.
00:25:05 - Discussion of dual secure elements (Tropic Square T01 and Infineon Optiga Trust M) for enhanced security.
00:26:01 - Bluetooth security: End-to-end encryption using Noise protocol.
00:27:04 - Haptic feedback and one-time code for pairing confirmation.
00:28:00 - Device authenticity verification via secure elements.
00:29:39 - More on quantum readiness: Post-quantum certificates for future implementation.
00:30:23 - Tutorial walkthrough: Power button, menu options, and Tropic Square chip explanation.
00:30:59 - Background on Tropic Square: Origin story, name meaning (Truly Open IC), and founding to create auditable secure elements.
00:32:06 - Experience with proprietary secure elements: Discovering vulnerabilities under NDA and deciding to develop an open alternative.
00:34:25 - Why Tropic Square chip is described as "auditable and transparent" rather than fully "open source" (digital parts open, analog parts not yet due to costs; no NDAs required).
00:37:18 - Advantages of Tropic Square for competitors: Better security, transparency, and ability to discuss vulnerabilities openly.
00:38:46 - Competition philosophy: Focus on features, software, third-party integrations, and innovation rather than aggressive tactics.
00:40:29 - Bitcoin-only version mention and pre-order availability.
00:41:26 - Completion of setup tutorial; default 20-word SLIP-39 backup with options for multi-share.
00:43:41 - Metrics for setup experience: Emphasis on user understanding over speed.
00:45:32 - Compatibility with BIP-44 for multi-asset support; differences limited to SLIP-39 replacing BIP-39.
00:47:09 - Status as production-quality device; shipping soon, with room for early feedback.
00:49:19 - Audience questions: Ordering in Southeast Asia (via trezor.io or vetted resellers).
00:50:35 - Audience questions: Coin control in mobile app (planned for parity with desktop in a few months).
00:51:29 - Audience questions: Shielded Zcash support (on backlog, no ETA; space issues resolved but requires further cryptography work).
00:53:18 - Pricing ($250) and pre-order info.
00:53:43 - Closing remarks: Pride in the product, future features, and thanks.
Recently, Super Testnet built Papa swaps: a novel & optimistic way of doing atomic swaps on Bitcoin. In this episode, he talks about his new projects, why he is in favor of filtering the mempool + BIP 444 activation, and prediction markets.
Time stamps:
00:01:28 - Intro: Super Testnet's Return to the Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
00:03:03 - Lightning Privacy Wars: Recapping Super's Monero Challenge & Layer 2 Debates
00:03:43 - Papa Swaps Unleashed: Super's Lightning-Fast Innovation Explained
00:04:57 - Submarine Swaps 101: From Layer 1 to Layer 2 in a Flash
00:06:04 - Phoenix Wallet Magic: Splicing vs. Submarine Swaps – Why Capacity Matters
00:07:55 - Birth of Papa Swaps: From Mexico Chats to Single-Transaction Breakthrough
00:09:19 - Why "Papa"? The Hilarious Submarine Speed Pun Behind the Name
00:10:23 - Hedgehog Protocol Update: When Will It Launch? (Spoiler: Probably Never)
00:12:00 - Hedgehog's Fate & Super's Conference Show-and-Tells
00:12:47 - Papa Swaps Deep Dive: Relative Time Locks & Happy vs. Sad Paths
00:14:47 - How Papa Swaps Work: Secrets, HTLCs, & Atomic Swaps Simplified
00:18:33 - Risks & Tradeoffs: Double Spends, RBF, & Trust in Small Transactions
00:21:02 - Block Space Savings: Papa Swaps vs. Boltz, Moon Wallet, & Lightning Loop
00:22:29 - Papa Swaps' Edge in a Crowded Layer 2 World
00:23:29 - Sidechain Shoutouts: Citrea, Alpen, & Scaling Debates Revisited
00:24:32 - Papa Swaps Today: Proof-of-Concept, Mainnet Risks, & Wallet Adoption
00:27:02 - Will Phoenix & Breeze Integrate Papa or Hedgehog?
00:28:47 - Boltz Exchange Scoop: CEO Kilian Rausch & Co-Founder Michael
00:29:35 - Lightning History: Joule, Bottle Pay, & Nostr Wallet Connect Ideas
00:33:06 - Ad Break: Layer 2 Labs' Drivechains
00:34:57 - Sideshift.ai: Swap Stables for BTC
00:37:10 - BIP 444 Drama
00:38:18 - Spam Filters Work for Bandwidth Savings
00:39:32 - Miners' Risks: Orphan Blocks & 50% Filter Adoption Scenarios
00:42:44 - Mempool Art: Portland Hodl's Block Painting Software & Mara Pool Deals
00:44:28 - Spam Defined: Extra Data vs. Permissionless Purity Debate
00:48:21 - BitVM Dreams: Catching Pikachu on Bitcoin Without Spam
00:50:29 - Citrea & Alpen: BitVM 2/3, ZK Proofs, & Data Availability Concerns
00:52:55 - Citrea Marketing Myths: Inscriptions Over OP_RETURN in Launch
00:53:29 - OP_RETURN vs. Inscriptions: Base Space Scarcity & Pruning Debates
00:56:35 - BIP 444 Breakdown: Temporary Spam Ban & Consensus Changes
01:00:06 - Legal Slippery Slope? OFAC Lists, Sanctions, & Permissionless Fears
01:02:05 - BIP 444 Odds & Details
01:07:15 - Inscriptions as Anchors: Layer 2 Onboarding or Hidden Spam?
01:10:26 - OP_RETURN Drama: V30 Update vs Filters
01:13:31 - Community Toxicity: "Knotzis," "Coretards," & Ad Hominem Fallacies
01:16:40 - Pleb Slop & Purity Quests: Dogma vs. Base Layer Privacy Push
01:20:01 - Spam Doesn't Pay Node Runners – Miners Only
01:21:42 - Pro-Choice Nodes: Custom Policies, Wizards, & Hackathon Ideas
01:25:18 - Windows Wizards & Idea Generation: Super's Creative Process
01:26:24 - Ad Break: Bitcoin.com News – Balanced Global Crypto Coverage
01:27:28 - NoOnes: Ray Youssef's P2P Marketplace for the Global South
01:29:57 - Chat Q&A: Money Transmitters, Legal Fears, & Miner Roles
01:34:00 - Spark Wallet Exposed: Privacy Leaks & Statechain Explorer Risks
01:35:31 - Mercury Wallet Nod: Statechains' Real-World Usage Milestone
01:35:31 - Statechains' Demand: Spark's Success vs. Mercury's Shutdown
01:36:05 - Blinded Servers: Hiding Balances & History in Statechains
01:37:20 - Privacy Mitigations: IP Hiding, VPNs, & Avoiding Key Reuse
01:38:43 - Spark Improvements: CoinJoins & Future Privacy Features
01:40:27 - GDPR Compliance: Bull Bitcoin's CoinJoins & Legal Privacy Push
01:41:57 - Nostr Frustrations: Searching Old Posts Sucks
01:42:58 - ARCash DExplained
01:48:31 - Spam Subjectivity & Consensus Rules Debate
01:51:08 - Objective vs. Subjective: Mempool Policies as Good Rules
01:53:10 - No Hard Fork: BIP 444's Low Adoption & Hash Rate Doubts
01:54:41 - Cultural Conflicts: Ossified Bitcoin & Soft Fork Stalls
01:55:26 - Influencer Consensus
02:37:56 - Bitcoin Prediction Markets: Non-Interactive DLCs & Proxies
02:38:41 - Poly Market UX: Early Exits & Position Transfers
02:40:03 - PSBT Auctions: Non-Interactive Sales Explained
02:41:48 - Agias Protocol: Native Bitcoin Prediction Markets
02:43:03 - Paul Sztorc Story
02:44:19 - Oracle Problem
02:45:48 - Hivemind Insights
02:46:57 - Build Agias
02:48:39 - Predix Collaboration
02:49:16 - Favorite Thinkers: Robin Linus, Liam Eagen
02:50:24 - BitVM's BSV Origins
02:52:52 - Turing Completeness & Craig Wright
02:54:58 - BitVM Evolution
02:55:24 - 2010 Spam Debates with Satoshi & OGs
02:56:52 - Block Size Wars vs. Current Fights
02:57:28 - Nostr Threads with Aaron van Wirdum
02:58:01 - Follow Super: Supertestnet.org
02:59:03 - Infighting Fuels Ethereum & Zcash Growth
02:59:29 - Outro: Thanks to Sponsors & Farewell
Mert Mumtaz is the man of the hour: the Zcash bull who successfully popularized privacy in DeFi, and one of the architects behind the spectacular price action we've seen in the month of "ZECtober".
In this episode, we talk about the meaning of privacy, why Zcash plays a leading role in this new paradigm, and what "zillions" really means.
Time stamps:
00:01:25 - Zcash's Encrypted Messaging Magic: Scan QR for Questions!
00:02:37 - Mert's Zcash Origin Story: From Solana Scaling to Privacy Powerhouse
00:03:52 - Diving into Project Tachyon: Scaling Zcash with Solana Insights
00:04:03 - Untapped Potential: Why Zcash's Story Needs a Epic Rewrite
00:04:40 - Paid Shill Myths Busted: Mert's Honest Zcash Journey Exposed
00:06:20 - VC Conspiracies & Israel Coin Nonsense: Salty Narratives Debunked
00:07:56 - Monero vs Zcash Tribalism: Why Privacy Coins Should Unite
00:09:04 - Privacy as the Ultimate PVE: Battling Surveillance States
00:10:31 - EU CBDC Nightmare: Digital Euros Tracking Your Every Move
00:13:03 - Individual Liberty Through Crypto: Privacy Isn't About Hiding Crimes
00:14:15 - Mert's Bitcoin Discovery: From Uni Skeptic to Crypto Convert
00:17:02 - Bitcoin's Simplicity Wins: Why It Outshines Programmable Chains
00:19:16 - Elevating Zcash to Push Bitcoin Privacy Upgrades
00:19:42 - Cypherpunk vs Austrian: Choose Your Crypto Philosophy
00:22:06 - Mert's Self-View: Builder, Storyteller, No Labels Needed
00:23:02 - Solana Triple-Digit Glory & Zcash Meme Mastery Unleashed
00:24:41 - Engineering Meets Memes: Richard Feynman Vibes in Crypto
00:25:12 - Tweet Chaos: From Shalom Sign-Offs to Zillions Mania
00:25:49 - Zideline, ZECtober, Zovember: Z-Prefix Memes Taking Over
00:26:51 - Pushing Zcash into DeFi: Bridges, Liquidity, and Game-Changing Integrations
00:28:38 - Solana for Offense, Zcash for Defense: The Ultimate Barbell Strategy
00:30:41 - Solana vs Ethereum: Sci-Fi Computer vs Multi-Role Juggernaut
00:33:21 - Ads Shoutout: SideShift.ai & Layer2 Labs Drivechain Magic
00:35:52 - Solana's UX Edge: Why Memecoin Mania Thrives Here
00:38:00 - Vitalik's Node Critique: Solana's Verification Smarts Revealed
00:40:33 - Why Zcash Rocks: Encrypted, Unruggable Internet Money
00:42:10 - Pitching Zcash to Noobs: Private Digital Gold Unlocked
00:45:32 - Bitcoin as HTTP, Zcash as HTTPS: Killer Privacy Memes
00:46:52 - Noah's Ark Fork: Shielding Bitcoin's UTXO Set on Zcash
00:48:25 - Bitcoin's Toxic Shift: From Revolution to Rent-Seeking Stock
00:51:22 - Zcash's Revival: Outperforming Bitcoin with Privacy Power
00:53:00 - Day One for Zcash: Cypherpunk Hackathon & Future Builds
00:54:28 - Zcash Dance Tease: Hitting $400 Milestone Vibes
00:55:04 - Shielded Q&A: Rare Pepe on Zcash? Merchant Adoption Tips
00:59:03 - Ads Plug: NoOnes.com & Bitcoin.com News for Global Crypto Wins
01:02:29 - Privacy on Solana: MPC Wallets & Yield-Earning Mixers
01:03:35 - Monero's 51% Attack Impact: Zcash Pump Unaffected
01:04:44 - P2P Zcash Markets: Hackathon Idea Gold
01:05:45 - Flipping Cardano & XRP: Zcash's Tech Triumph Incoming
01:07:24 - Uber Driver Sell Signals: Crypto Folklore Debunked
01:08:13 - XRP Vendetta: Lobbyists vs Engineers Showdown
01:10:43 - Zcash Price to Flip XRP: 23x Moonshot to $9K
01:11:37 - Proof-of-Stake Debate: Stick to PoW for Zcash's Core Strength
01:14:11 - Zashi Wallet Praise: UX Masterclass in Privacy
01:15:22 - AI Payments with Zcash: Nano-GPT & Browser Wallet Woes
01:16:23 - Zcash as Global Privacy Hub: Cross-Chain Vault Vision
01:18:19 - Fast Finality Fixes: PoW Tweaks Over PoS Risks
01:19:19 - DAG Chains Like IOTA & Kaspa: Interesting But Test Elsewhere
01:21:09 - Helios Labs Lowdown: Solana's RPC Powerhouse CEO Life
01:23:55 - Zillions Decoded: Crypto's Trillion-Dollar Destiny Call
01:25:03 - Zcash ATH Hunt: Long-Term Bullish Beyond $4K Peaks
01:26:07 - Final Q&A: Dictator Memes? Onboarding Feedback & Top 5 Coins
01:28:18 - Future Top 5: Bitcoin, Solana, Zcash, Hyperliquid, ETH Dominance
01:29:01 - Zcash's Cursed History to Glory: 9 Years of Resilience
01:29:37 - Closing Call: Build, Advocate, Hack for Cypherpunk Wins























