Money School Podcast

From the outside, doctors and dentists look like they’ve got it all: good money, respected careers, the kind of lifestyle most people want. But what almost no one talks about is how fragile that life really is.  One accident, one injury, and the very hands that their entire career depends on can suddenly stop producing income. That was Dr. Jeff Anzalone’s reality after a skiing accident nearly ended his ability to practice dentistry. It forced him to realize: as much as medicine can be rewarding, it’s still trading time for money, and it can all disappear in an instant. The solution wasn’t to abandon his practice, but to build wealth in a way that didn’t depend on his hands or hours. Real estate offered the answer, but not the kind most people think of. Doctors don’t have the time to chase tenants, fix plumbing, or manage property managers. They need a model that lets them keep their focus on patients while still capturing the benefits of ownership. That’s where mobile home parks came in. It’s one of the most resilient ways to generate passive income, diversify risk, and create long-term wealth, without becoming a landlord. Why are most doctors skating on thin ice financially? How do you use real estate to stop trading time for money?  In this episode, periodontist and founder of Debt-Free Doctor, Dr. Jeff Anzalone, joins me to dig into why doctors’ careers are more vulnerable than most people realize.  We discuss how passive real estate investing gives them financial resilience without sacrificing their practice. You’ll also learn why mobile home parks may be the most overlooked wealth-building vehicle in America today. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -The hidden math of medicine Doctors look wealthy, but most start their careers buried in debt and chasing appearances. How does the “doctor dream” set them up for financial struggle? -A wake-up call on the slopes A skiing accident nearly ended Jeff’s ability to practice dentistry. Why did that moment push him to find income streams beyond the chair? -Mobile homes, massive opportunity Mobile home parks aren’t glamorous, but they deliver stability and cash flow. Why is this overlooked sector one of the strongest plays in affordable housing? -Who, not how For doctors, it’s nearly impossible to focus on their practice while also managing tenants. How did Jeff scale to 11 mobile home parks without becoming a landlord?   Guest Bio Dr. Jeff Anzalone is a periodontist in Louisiana and the founder of Debt-Free Doctor. A few short years ago, he started to worry about my family’s financial future. As a solo practitioner, Jeff knew that if something happened to him, no other income would be coming in. These concerns prompted him to take a hard look at his financial future, and he realized that something needed to be done. He learned how to build multiple streams of passive income so that he can replace his active income each year. Now he’s helping other doctors do the same. To learn more, go to https://www.debtfreedr.com/.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you! 

Most people who buy life insurance never read the fine print. They’re promised “stock market–like returns without the risk,” a retirement account that doubles as a tax-free loan machine, and peace of mind for their families. On paper? It looks like the perfect product. But what happens when the math doesn’t add up, the illustrations don’t match reality, and families find out, years later, that the policy they’ve been funding is set to collapse? That’s the dark underbelly of the Indexed Universal Life (IUL) industry. And it’s exactly what my guest, Jonathan, aka the IUL Exposer, has dedicated his career to uncovering. He’s reviewed over 4,000 policies in just 18 months, uncovered systemic mis-selling, and even built a process that has helped families claw back over a million dollars in refunds. Jonathan isn’t anti-insurance. He’s anti–false promises. His work shines a light on how commissions drive product design, why regulators are warning against IULs, and how clients are left holding the bag when agents disappear. This episode isn’t about theory, it’s about hard numbers, legal battles, and the uncomfortable truths most of the industry hopes you never learn. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Illustrations are a trap IUL projects steady growth that rarely happens. Why do clients still trust the numbers? -Commissions drive the product IULs are sold 10-to-1 over whole life because they pay the fattest commissions. What does that reveal about whose interests are really being served? -Refunds are possible Families often think their money is gone forever. How are some clawing back tens of thousands in refunds? -Indexes aren’t what they seem Synthetic “uncapped” indexes promise market-like returns but rarely deliver. How are clients set up for disappointment from day one?   Guest Bio Jonathan Aguilera is the voice behind @lifeinsurancerefunds on TikTok and Instagram, a platform dedicated to exposing misleading life insurance practices, breaking down complex policies, and helping families recover money they thought was lost. Licensed since 2012, Jonathan once built a national agency of 250+ licensed agents with Primerica. But when faced with the choice to “stay quiet to stay compliant” or speak up for what’s right, he chose the latter. He resigned, surrendered his securities licenses, and walked away from everything he’d built to launch DTRT Financial, not just a company, but a movement. Jonathan isn’t the suit-and-tie advisor chasing commissions. He’s the guy who got fed up watching families get misled, overcharged, and under-informed. Through thousands of policy reviews, he’s exposed the harsh realities of cash value life insurance while educating the masses on how to make intentional financial choices. Visit IULExposer.com to learn more.  About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Most business owners only call the bank when they’re in trouble. Cash is tight, deals are falling apart, stress is mounting.  By then? It’s too late.  The banks shut the doors and wave at you from behind the glass. That’s the obvious mistake. The less obvious one? Not realizing the best time to secure financing is when you don’t need it. That’s when banks give you more, on better terms, and when private lenders are willing to play ball. That’s the theme of my conversation with George Otel, founder of U.S. Business Funding. He’s closed 400+ deals, from SBA loans to $50M commercial bridge financings.  He’s also been on the other side as a business owner who knows what it’s like to hit a wall when funding isn’t lined up. And right now, while capital feels scarce and multifamily investors are calling this a “3-year recession,” George sees massive opportunity, especially with the $10 trillion baby boomer business sell-off already underway. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Banks love you more when you don’t need them. You’ll get offered more money than you asked for when you’re strong, but the second you look distressed, the same lender disappears. Why is that the exact opposite of how entrepreneurs think about financing? -Bridge loans are just the beginning. Fast capital is a band-aid, not a solution. The winners use bridge money only as a setup for long-term refinancing. How do you structure that from day one so you don’t get stuck? -Buying beats building in this market. You’ll struggle to get a dime for a startup, but banks line up for businesses with systems and cash flow. With trillions in businesses set to change hands, is acquisition the smarter path for the next generation?   Guest Bio George Otel is a business mentor, investor, entrepreneur, and financing expert. He specializes in start-up and business finance options, helping them attract the right capital for their business. George’s goal is to educate entrepreneurs, small business owners, franchise owners, business consultants, and professionals on how to obtain capital in today's lending environment and avoid declines. Over the years, George and his partners have helped direct thousands of entrepreneurs and businesses in the US in obtaining access to hundreds of millions of dollars so they could start, grow, and expand their businesses. To learn more, visit http://usbusinessfunding.net/, send George a DM on LinkedIn, or send a text to 414-475-7757.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor with a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.   His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.   Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.         Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you! 

Most real estate investors are running the same race: chasing the hottest markets, competing for the same deals, and trying to outbid one another. The problem? That crowded approach often blinds you to the opportunities hiding in plain sight. The truth is, success in investing isn’t about following the crowd or chasing trends; it’s about looking where others aren’t, leading with strategy, and building relationships that open doors no one else can see. That’s what sets Aleea Stanton apart. She didn’t start investing just to rack up properties. She began with a deeper purpose: to give back to her grandparents, who shaped her life.  That generosity sparked a ripple effect, creating community connections and investment opportunities most investors overlook. In this episode, real estate investor and attorney Aleea C. Stanton joins me to share her journey from practicing law to building a thriving investing career.  We talk about what ignited her passion for real estate, how she finds deals differently than most, and the mindset shift that’s allowed her to succeed where others stall out.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Finding the fuel for your fire Identifying your true source of motivation is what drives consistency and purpose in your daily life. What is the one thing that fuels your fire and pushes you to keep going, even on tough days? -Creating a repeatable system that works Mastering the process of flipping houses creates a repeatable system that can be applied to future real estate deals. How can refining one successful process make every future flip more efficient and profitable? -Building a firm foundation Trust is the foundation of lasting success in real estate partnerships. How do you actively build and maintain trust with the people you work with in real estate? Guest Bio Aleea C. Stanton is a seasoned attorney and real estate investor based in New York. She serves as Counsel in the Disputes & Investigations practice at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP, specializing in white-collar defense, securities enforcement, and government investigations. Her expertise encompasses matters related to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA), securities enforcement, and corporate compliance, with a focus on industries such as technology, oil and gas, aerospace, and defense  Aleea earned her Juris Doctor (J.D.) from Howard University School of Law, where she was a semifinalist in the John J. Gibbons Moot Court Competition.  In addition to her legal career, Aleea is actively involved in real estate investing.  Aleea's unique combination of legal expertise and real estate investment experience positions her as a valuable resource for individuals navigating the complexities of real estate transactions and legal considerations in the industry. Follow Aleea on Instagram @leescheri    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

You’ve experienced life at the highest level: private planes, exclusive circles, red carpet events, and the luxury that money can buy. But beyond the accolades and access, have you ever found yourself asking, 'Is this all there is?' There’s a silent struggle that often shadows success. Behind the velvet ropes and curated lifestyles, many high-profile individuals wrestle with an inner void—an ache that no amount of wealth, recognition, or adrenaline can truly silence. When the applause quiets and the entourage leaves, the stillness can feel suffocating. For some, that emptiness is numbed by alcohol or distraction. The result? A slow unraveling. What once felt like a dream life begins to lose its shape, and the future becomes harder to see. But there is another way forward. Sometimes, it takes losing everything you thought mattered to discover what truly does.  That was David Christensen’s journey. Once immersed in the Hollywood elite and high-adrenaline adventures, yes, even Titanic exploration, David found himself at a crossroads as the lifestyle he built began to unravel.  In this episode, he shares how reconnecting with purpose led him to an unexpected but deeply fulfilling new path in real estate.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Keep your eyes on the prize Staying connected to your purpose keeps you motivated through challenges. What’s the bigger goal that drives you to keep going when things get tough? -Figuring out your “why” Clarity on your “why” is the foundation for lasting fulfillment and purpose. What would your life look like if every decision you made was aligned with your true “why”? -From red carpets to open houses Managing Hollywood artists and working in real estate aren’t actually all that different. What other surprising traits do the two share?   Guest Bio David Christensen is a nationally recognized luxury Realtor and speaker who has sold more than 400 homes and been honored as a 2025 ‘Realtor of the Year’ nominee, four-time ICON Agent, and eight-time ‘Best of Zillow’ award winner. This year he made global headlines representing the sale of the iconic ‘Breaking Bad’ house, featured in The New York Times, Robb Report, and The Wall Street Journal, among others.  Prior to his career in real estate, David managed music artists and projects as an entertainment executive in Los Angeles. He also served as Media Director for a renowned TITANIC expedition, diving 12,800 feet to the wreck site; an experience shared by fewer than 200 people worldwide.  David’s life is a powerful story of resilience and reinvention: from Hollywood success to personal collapse, and ultimately to successful entrepreneur and purpose-driven leader. As a speaker, he shares on real estate, transformation, resilience, and turning your "comeback into a calling". Visit https://davidchristensen.com/  Find David on LinkedIn @David Christensen Follow David on Instagram @davidchristensenre  Facebook: David Christensen - Realtor | Bedford NH YouTube: David Christensen - Realtor Email David: david.christensen@exprealty.com About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you! 

You’ve got something valuable sitting right under your nose: your home’s equity. But here’s the thing: it’s not exactly helping you pay the bills. Your house might be worth a lot more than before, but day-to-day expenses still pile up.  Inflation’s squeezing your paycheck, groceries keep getting more expensive, and it feels like you’re stretched thinner every month. You’re “house rich,” sure, but cash? Not so much. And that’s exhausting. The reality is, owning a valuable home doesn’t mean your wallet feels any heavier. Lots of folks are stuck in this same spot right now, especially with the economy tightening. But what if there was a way to use that equity, something that works for you no matter what the market’s doing? That’s where storage comes into play. Storage isn’t just some nice-to-have extra space; it’s something people and businesses need all the time. Whether people are downsizing, companies need room to grow, or life throws curveballs, demand stays steady.  And because of that, storage has quietly outperformed a lot of flashier investments, even during tough times. In this episode, I chat with Arthur Hood, CEO of HV Family Holdings, about why storage is worth paying attention to, how to break free from being cash poor, and what the future holds for this surprisingly resilient market.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -No negatives in 3 decades The storage industry’s consistent demand has kept it profitable for nearly three decades. What factors make storage so resilient, even during economic downturns? -The housing shortage dilemma A growing housing shortage is being met with luxury developments instead of the affordable options communities actually need. Why are developers prioritizing high-end projects when the demand is for affordable housing? -Cost segregation = faster depreciation. Cost segregation can accelerate depreciation, giving you larger tax deductions sooner. How could accelerating depreciation through cost segregation impact your tax savings this year?   Guest Bio Arthur Hood is the CEO of HV Family Holdings, a real estate investment firm specializing in self-storage assets. With years of experience in identifying recession-resistant opportunities, Arthur has built a portfolio that thrives in both booming and challenging markets. He’s passionate about helping everyday investors turn stagnant home equity into steady, reliable income streams. By focusing on storage—a necessity-driven asset class, Arthur shows people how to create cash flow that isn’t at the mercy of market swings. Connect with Arthur on LinkedIn.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™ and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

You built your business from scratch and poured your heart and soul into it. So it might feel strange, even disloyal, to think about stepping away or exiting.  From the outside, everything’s working: sales are up, your team’s solid, and your brand is gaining traction. But under the surface? You’re tired, the vision that once felt clear now feels fuzzy, and growth has started to feel like a grind. This isn’t uncommon. Many founders hesitate to plan an exit because things still feel “fine.” But there’s a big difference between “fine” and truly free. Founders leave their businesses for all kinds of reasons, burnout, shifting goals, evolving partnerships, or simply growing beyond what they once built.  The biggest misstep is waiting until things fall apart to start thinking about what’s next. How do you build with the exit in mind?  In this episode, I’m joined by Cody Hofhine, the founder of Utah Sell Now, Texas Sell Now, and Joe Homebuyer. As a business owner who has exited four companies, he has a lot to share about what worked, what didn’t, and what every founder should consider before making their move.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode -Having the right mentors Learning from mentors who have already achieved your goals provides proven guidance and shortcuts to success. How can following someone who’s already succeeded save you time and prevent common mistakes? -Invest in yourself Investing in yourself is the most important step because you are the driving force behind your own success. How are you prioritizing your personal growth to create the impact you want in your life? -Quit linear thinking Embracing non-linear, audacious thinking can spark breakthroughs beyond conventional limits. What bold goal would you pursue if you stopped following the usual rules? Guest Bio Cody Hofhine is a multiple Inc. 5000 business owner, real estate investor/mentor, and sought-after Speaker. He is the co-founder of Wholesaling Inc., the #1 Real Estate coaching program across the nation, and Joe Homebuyer, the leading Real Estate Franchise. Cody has coached over 3000 students on how to successfully build their Real Estate Business through his real estate training, as well as help individuals perform at their highest levels with his one-on-one mentoring. Cody used his background in sales to quickly build multiple 7 and 8-figure real estate businesses that all start on the foundation of clarity or vision and purpose. Visit https://joehomebuyerfranchising.com/  Visit https://codyhofhine.com/  Follow Cody on Instagram @codyhofhine Look out for the Cody Holfine podcast launching August 4th, and stay tuned for the Chris Naugle episode!      About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.   His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.   Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Here’s the dirty secret in the term insurance industry: They win when you cancel. They win when your policy lapses. They win when you don’t understand what you really own. Think about that for a second. You’ve been sold on the idea that term insurance is the smart, affordable choice. But what no one tells you is this: it’s a ticking clock. If you outlive the term, you get nothing. All those years of paying in? Gone. Just like that. Who wins? The insurance companies. Every. Single. Time. They count on you to drop it. They bank on you not knowing any better. But what if you flipped the script? What if you could turn the tides and make term insurance work for YOU? What if you could unlock hidden value in your policy before it vanishes? Because the truth is that you can. There are strategies the wealthy use to extract value from term policies that most people surrender without a second thought. Rob Haynie, Managing Director at Life Insurance Settlements, Inc., joins me in this episode to expose the hidden greed within the insurance industry. We dive into how millions are misled when it comes to term life insurance. More importantly, we reveal how you can flip the script and use your policy to your advantage instead of getting taken for a ride.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Do more than just surrender Most people with term insurance don’t realize there are alternatives to surrendering their policy. What if you could unlock hidden value from your term policy instead of just walking away from it? -Slow economy surrender In a slowing economy, many are surrendering their life insurance policies without realizing they may have better options. What are the other things you can do? -Optimizing assets Term insurance can be treated as an asset, just like your home, because you own it. If your term policy is an asset, are you making the most of its hidden value? Guest Bio Rob Haynie is the Managing Director and one of the founding partners of Life Insurance Settlements, Inc. (LIS), a leading life settlement brokerage based in Pompano Beach, Florida. With over 31 years of experience in the industry, Haynie has been instrumental in shaping the life settlement market, advocating for the value of life insurance as an asset class, and educating financial professionals and policyholders about settlement options. Throughout his career, Haynie has been directly involved in negotiating and settling thousands of life insurance policies, earning a reputation as one of the most influential figures in the field. He has served multiple terms on the Board of Directors of the Life Insurance Settlement Association (LISA) and has been a charter member of its Public Policy Committee, which focuses on regulatory and legislative activities within the industry. Haynie is a frequent speaker at industry events and has co-hosted the podcast Unlocking the Hidden Value of Your Life Insurance, where he discusses the benefits and intricacies of life settlements.  Call Rob on 954-599-4433 Email Rob rob@lisettlements.com Find Rob on LinkedIn @Rob Haynie    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Feeling burnt out? You’re not the only investor hitting that wall. Long hours, back-to-back deals, tenants, contractors, financing, and the never-ending pressure to grow. You got into real estate for time freedom and financial independence, but somewhere along the way, it started to feel like just another grind. Here’s the truth most investors won’t say out loud: Burnout isn’t a rite of passage, it’s a red flag. And ignoring it can cost you more than just momentum; it can eat away at your health, relationships, and your reason for investing in the first place. But what if there’s another way to build wealth? A shift from burnout to balance. It’s not about more doors, bigger portfolios, or chasing status. It’s about designing a real estate business that gives you the life you actually want. In this episode, I’m joined by Ashley Kehr, a rental property investor and co-host of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast. She shares her journey of stepping off the hamster wheel and into a simpler, more powerful version of success. One built around freedom, clarity, and sustainability. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Opportunities in real estate investing Real estate investing can offer more than financial security; it can create freedom, flexibility, and a lifestyle on your terms. What other opportunities can real estate investing open up? -Shiny object syndrome New entrepreneurs and investors often fall into the trap of chasing trendy opportunities instead of staying focused on proven strategies. How do we focus on moving the needle instead of the next big thing? -Build a firm foundation Start by leveraging your strengths and skills, then pursue your passions once you've established a solid foundation. How can focusing on current strengths pave the way for achieving long-term goals? Guest Bio Ashley Kehr is the co-host of the Real Estate Rookie Podcast. Just a few years removed from being a beginner herself, Ashley is now helping newbies figure out actionable steps to get their first deal. She has a dual degree in finance and public accounting and recently became a licensed insurance agent. Ashley purchased her first rental property in 2014 and, since then, has grown her buy-and-hold portfolio to over 30 units. She has experience in residential and commercial properties. She attributes much of her success to the use of partners on several real estate deals and creative financing. Ashley developed a passion for real estate after quitting her staff accountant job to work as a property manager. Within several years, she had created two property management companies, which she ran for over five years. Her specialty was creating systems to work efficiently and remotely within companies. Currently, Ashley outsources property management and spends her time educating new investors and finding deals to BRRRR. Visit https://www.biggerpockets.com/  Be a guest on the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast https://airtable.com/appnZ2AGUknfciOzu/pagvbFaEPNprDBVKi/form  Listen to the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast here https://www.biggerpockets.com/podcasts/real-estate-rookie  Follow Ashley on Instagram @wealthfromrentals  Visit https://www.ashleykehr.com/    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

You’re out in the real world, trying to “figure it out,” but instead, you feel lost, stuck. Everyone told you that once you got the degree, the path would appear. But here you are, overwhelmed, second-guessing, and unsure where to even begin. It’s exhausting. You’re watching others seemingly take off while you're still parked at the starting line. The pressure builds. Mentally, you're battling doubt. Financially, you feel the weight of responsibility. And the worst part? You want to start, but you just don’t know how. That’s where Taylor Clark was. Done with school. Spinning in circles. So she tried everything. Said yes to new experiences. Flirted with a bunch of paths. And then one call with Gary Vee changed her life. Not because he handed her a golden ticket, but because she finally picked her thing… and went all in. What if that one call, that one moment of clarity, could change your entire direction? Are you ready to stop floundering and start moving with purpose? What sacrifices are you willing to make to break through your barriers? In this episode, Taylor Clark joins me to discuss her journey, how her conversation with Gary Vee completely changed her world, and helped her find her path.    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Comparison is the thief of joy Your journey is unique, and comparison only distracts you from your own progress. What could you achieve if you focused entirely on your path instead of someone else's? -Genuine influence or vanity metrics A strong social media presence can give you a competitive edge, but vanity metrics like bought followers can distort true influence. How do we build genuine influence online instead of just chasing vanity metrics? -Three feet from gold Success is often just beyond the point where most people give up. What if the breakthrough you’ve been chasing is just one more step away? Guest Bio Taylor Clark is the founder and creator behind The Fabulous Journey, a lifestyle blog and YouTube channel that chronicles her adventures in fashion, travel, and personal growth. With a background in fashion design and retail business, she has worked with renowned brands such as Vera Wang Bridal and Rachel Zoe Styling. Her platform offers readers and viewers insights into living life to the fullest while embracing style and authenticity. In 2017, Taylor gained significant attention when she appeared on Gary Vaynerchuk's Ask Gary Vee show. During the episode, she discussed her entrepreneurial aspirations and sought advice on navigating the challenges of building a personal brand. Her candid conversation with Gary Vee resonated with many, leading to widespread recognition and inspiring others to pursue their passions with determination. Through The Fabulous Journey, Taylor continues to inspire her audience by sharing her experiences and encouraging others to embrace their unique paths in life. Follow Taylor on Instagram @thefabulousjourney Subscribe to The Fabulous Journey on YouTube @TheFabulousJourney Find Taylor on LinkedIn @Taylor Clark    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.       Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Families are house-rich but cash-poor. Sound familiar? Your home’s value has skyrocketed, but so have interest rates, and now you're stuck. Stuck with rising expenses. Stuck with high-interest debt. Stuck with equity… trapped in the walls of your own house. It’s like having a vault of money you can’t touch, while inflation and debt slowly suffocate your financial freedom. What if your house could pay off your debt? What if you could control your money instead of the bank controlling it? How much faster could you reach financial freedom if your home worked for you? There’s a smarter way to tap into that hidden wealth, and it’s called a First Lien HELOC. This isn’t your typical home equity line. It’s a powerful financial tool that lets you access your equity, pay down debt faster, and use your home to build real wealth, not just sit on paper gains. In this episode, I’m joined by Harrison George, Mortgage Loan Officer at CMG Financial, to discuss how you can use your home’s equity to pay off debt. We break down how it works, the potential benefits, and why it might be a smart financial move to consider.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Creating wealth from existing debt Strategically refinancing existing debt can turn what’s traditionally a liability into a source of capital for wealth-building. How could you restructure your current debts to start funding income-producing assets? -A self-completing financial cycle A First Lien HELOC can streamline and optimize your entire financial system by combining debt repayment and cash flow management. What else can it do for us? -Is more better More policies don’t always mean better results in a private banking system. How do you know when adding another policy is helping or just complicating your system? Guest Bio Harrison George is a highly accomplished Mortgage Loan Officer at CMG Financial in Meridian, Idaho, specializing in both purchase and refinance solutions. With a degree from Colorado Mesa University, he has earned recognition as a Top Producer by Scotsman Guide for his exceptional loan performance. Harrison is a thought leader in mortgage innovations, particularly the "All‑in‑One Loan" concept using LinkedIn and YouTube to educate homeowners, investors, and realtors on how to build equity faster and achieve greater financial flexibility. Dedicated to client success, Harrison emphasizes transparent communication and customized strategies, earning consistently positive feedback from satisfied borrowers. Subscribe to The Harrison George Team on YouTube Find Harrison on LinkedIn @Harrison George About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Why do so many investors keep losing money despite all the opportunities around them? It’s a painful cycle, jumping from one shiny new trend to the next, blinded by hype, only to watch their hard-earned cash slip away. Sound familiar? The truth is, chasing every new “hot” opportunity is a fast track to bad decisions and big losses. Investors are paralyzed by FOMO, and they throw caution to the wind, forgetting the basics that build real, lasting wealth. What if your biggest investment mistake is chasing the wrong opportunities? How much money have you lost by ignoring the fundamentals? It’s time to stop the cycle. The solution? Go back to fundamentals. Focus on solid principles, disciplined strategies, and patience, not the latest shiny object or hype-driven fad. When you master the basics, you stop losing and start winning. Troy Eckard, founder and chairman of Eckard Enterprises, joins me to talk about the mistakes investors are making today, why it's so crucial to never forget the fundamentals, as well as the oil and gas industry and the current buzz around it.    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  Slow and steady wins the investment race Slow and simple investing builds steady, long-term wealth without unnecessary risk. What if the secret to financial success isn’t speed, but patience and consistency? Learn from the losses Mistakes are inevitable in investing, but each loss is a chance to learn and improve your strategy. Are you using your investment losses as lessons or just setbacks? Tech transformation in the oil and gas industry. Oil and gas decisions have shifted from broad guesswork in the past to data-driven precision today. How has advanced technology transformed the way we explore and extract oil and gas? Guest Bio Troy W. Eckard is the Founder, Chairman, and CEO of Eckard Enterprises, LLC (and its affiliate, Eckard Land & Acquisition), a Texas-based asset management firm specializing in alternative investments within the energy sector  Since entering the oil and gas industry in 1985, Troy has raised hundreds of millions from high-net-worth individuals, overseen exploration projects, mineral rights acquisition across thousands of square miles, and co-founded Kinetica Partners, which manages over 1,800 miles of Gulf of Mexico pipelines  Known for his transparent, investor-first approach, he fosters strong partner relationships and hosts annual conferences to maintain open dialogue and trust  linkedin.com With a focus on tangible, cash-flowing assets like minerals, water rights, and real estate, Troy has guided his firm toward sustainable, generation-spanning wealth Visit https://eckardenterprises.com/  Find Troy on LinkedIn @Troy W Eckard   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Why hasn’t the stock market crashed yet? You’re watching the headlines, feeling the tension, wondering if the bubble’s about to burst and how you’ll protect everything you’ve worked for. The truth? The market hasn’t crashed because there’s still one critical thing pumping it up. Money supply. As long as cash keeps flowing through the economy, the market stays propped up. But what happens when that stops? When the money flow slows or dries up, the whole house of cards can come tumbling down, and your investments with it. So, how do you safeguard yourself in this uncertain environment? That’s where the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) comes in. It’s a way to take control of your own financial system, protect your wealth from market shocks, and keep your money growing no matter what the market does. Chris Miles, founder of Money Ripples and fellow podcast host, joins me in this episode to break down what’s really happening with the stock market, why it hasn’t crashed, why it’s holding steady, and what that means for investors.    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -The Roaring '20s vs today Both the Roaring '20s and today reflect a period of cultural shift, innovation, and post-crisis optimism. What drives society to repeat similar patterns of bold expression and rapid change after major upheaval? -Buy low, sell high The basic principle of investing is to buy at a low price and sell at a high price to lock in profits. If the goal is to maximize gains, why do so many people hesitate to sell when they're actually ahead? -Liberation with the Infinite Banking Concept The Infinite Banking Concept puts you in control of your finances by allowing you to become your own source of funding. What could your life look like if you no longer relied on banks or lenders to finance your goals? Guest Bio Chris Miles is a cash flow expert and the founder of Money Ripples, a financial education company dedicated to helping entrepreneurs and professionals achieve financial freedom. Known as the “Anti-Financial Advisor,” Chris advocates for alternative strategies to traditional financial planning, emphasizing the importance of creating passive income streams and maximizing cash flow. After starting his career as a financial advisor, Chris recognized the limitations of conventional investment approaches and transitioned to real estate investing. This shift enabled him to retire at the age of 28. Since then, he has dedicated his efforts to teaching others how to achieve a “work-optional” lifestyle through strategic financial planning and investment. Through Money Ripples, Chris has assisted clients in increasing their cash flow by over $300 million in the past 13 years. He hosts the Money Ripples Podcast, where he shares insights on creating passive income, the Infinite Banking Concept, and strategies for achieving financial independence.   Visit https://moneyripples.com/  Subscribe to the  Money Ripples with Chris Miles YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@moneyrippleswithchrismiles  Listen to the Money Ripples Podcast on Apple here Listen to the Money Ripples Podcast on Spotify here  About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Here's the truth nobody talks about: investing isn’t about saying “yes” to every shiny opportunity that comes your way. It’s about discipline. It’s about mastering the art of saying “no.” It’s about boring consistency, and yes, sometimes it feels plain, but that’s where real wealth is quietly built. Paul Moore’s journey from rags to riches didn’t just end with his financial exit. He wiped out his debt and embraced the mindset that no matter what, you never stop giving. Because giving fuels growth, relationships, and opportunity in ways money alone never can. What if saying “no” more often is actually the key to unlocking your financial freedom? Are you prepared to keep giving, even when it feels like you’ve given enough and things get tough? In this episode, founder of Wellings Capital Paul Moore, joins me to talk about real estate investing, how he went from rags to riches, and why the way out is to always give.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Learning to say NO The most successful investors achieve their results by saying no to nearly every opportunity. How can learning to say no improve decision-making and long-term success? -The real housing crisis Many real estate developers prioritize luxury apartments, overlooking the growing demand for affordable housing. What is the impact of this unbalanced supply and demand? -Warren Buffett: rules for real estate Warren Buffett emphasizes investing in real estate with a long-term mindset, focusing on value, not hype. How can adopting a long-term, value-focused approach improve real estate investment strategy? Guest Bio Paul Moore is the Founder of Wellings Capital. After graduating with an engineering degree and then an MBA from Ohio State, Paul entered the management development track at Ford Motor Company in Detroit. After five years, he departed to start a staffing company with a partner. They scaled and sold the company to a publicly traded firm five years later. After a brief “retirement” in his early 30s, Paul began investing in real estate in 1999 to protect and grow his own wealth. He completed over 85 real estate investments and exits, appeared on HGTV’s House Hunters, rehabbed and managed dozens of rental properties, and developed a subdivision. After completing three successful real estate developments, including assisting with the development of a Hyatt hotel and a very successful multifamily project, Paul narrowed his focus to commercial real estate in 2011. Paul is married with four children and lives in Central Virginia. Visit https://www.wellingscapital.com/resources for more information. Find Paul’s books on Amazon here To give to help save children from human trafficking go to https://aimfree.org/      About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Real estate investing is supposed to build your wealth. So why does it feel like you're building the IRS’s bank account instead? You're hustling, buying properties, managing tenants, and navigating deals. Then tax season hits, and you’re writing big checks to the government. What if you had a legal way to keep more of your money? Well, there is, and it isn’t new; it’s been around for decades. CPAs know it and the wealthy definitely use it. It’s called cost segregation.  Cost segregation is a tax strategy that breaks down your property into components and depreciates them faster. That means more write-offs, bigger deductions, and less money to the IRS.  All 100% legal, all by the book. But how exactly does it work? What’s the process behind it? Is it only for big, commercial buildings? In this episode, I’m joined by Jeff Hiatt, Director of New Business Development at MSC Consultants and a cost segregation expert. He breaks down what cost segregation is, how it can unlock significant tax savings, and why this powerful strategy remains surprisingly underutilized.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Why people don’t know about cost segregation  What misconceptions might be preventing more investors from taking advantage of cost segregation? -The best way to use cost segregation  Cost segregation is most beneficial for property owners looking to accelerate depreciation on assets. When might cost segregation provide little to no advantage for a property owner? -Wipe out income tax liability Cost segregation allows real estate investors to significantly reduce or eliminate their income tax liability. How can this lead to major tax savings and more wealth? Guest Bio Jeff Hiatt is the Director of New Business Development at MS Consultants (MSC), a leading provider of cost segregation studies. Since joining MSC in 1999, Jeff has been instrumental in expanding the firm's presence in the New England area, establishing strong relationships with CPA firms, real estate professionals, and accounting societies. His efforts have contributed to MSC becoming a prominent name in the field of cost segregation.  A graduate of Indiana University, Jeff is a recognized expert in cost segregation and energy efficiency tax strategies. He has lectured extensively, providing Continuing Professional Education (CPE) training to accounting firms and tax institutes. His speaking engagements include notable organizations such as the Boston Tax Institute, Massachusetts Society of CPAs, and Maine Real Estate Developers Association.  Beyond his professional endeavors, Jeff is actively involved in his community. He is a member of the Rotary Club of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, and serves on the Board of Swim With A Mission, an organization dedicated to supporting veterans and their families. Find Jeff on LinkedIn here @Jeff Hiatt Visit  https://www.costsegs.com/ and mention Chris Naugle/BYOB for a $100 fee discount   About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

You've probably heard it: "housing shortage this, housing shortage that." But here’s the truth no one’s telling you: we’re not facing a housing shortage. We’re facing an affordable housing shortage. Yet, all around us, we see more luxury apartments and high-end developments sprouting like weeds. If the real demand is for affordable housing, why are developers relentlessly churning out luxury units that most people can’t afford? Prices keep soaring, wages aren't keeping up, and the average family can’t find a place to live. The middle class is being squeezed out, and younger generations are locked out of homeownership entirely. So, why do developers keep building luxury instead of affordable? Is it because luxury units bring higher returns, even if they sit empty? In this episode, I dive into the reality of the housing crisis, what it means, and what fuelled it all.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -3% differential A 3% gap exists between the national vacancy rate and that of luxury properties. What factors contribute to the higher vacancy rate in luxury real estate? -The revenge summer After the pandemic, many people increased their savings and reduced their debt. How did the rise in savings and drop in debt influence consumer behavior after the pandemic? -The rise of institutional landlords How will the rise of institutional landlords impact renters and housing affordability? About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

You’ve worked your whole life to build something that lasts. But what happens after you’re gone? Too many people avoid that question until it’s too late. Because here’s the thing: your legacy is too important to put off till later. If you’re not intentional, you’ll leave your family with chaos and confusion. Legacy doesn’t happen by accident. Trust structures are not magic documents. They’re only as good as the strategy behind them. In today’s episode, we’re diving deep into how to build a legacy that doesn’t just pass on wealth, it passes on wisdom, protection, and purpose. And no one knows that better than Loral Langmeier. She’s not just a six-time New York Times bestselling author or the CEO of Integrated Wealth Systems. She’s “The Millionaire Maker”, and she’s helped over 10,000 people build generational wealth through real estate, business, and smart financial systems. Now, Loral is opening up her playbook on trusts, legacy planning, and how to protect your hard-earned assets from taxes, probate, and family drama. How do you make sure your heirs won’t inherit a mess? How do you leave them with an organized system of planning and wealth? We break down the biggest myths around estate planning, why most trusts fail, and how to create one that lives on for generations.    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -The “legacy planning lie” most families fall for A trust isn't a magic wand. What do you really need to include to protect your heirs from chaos, taxes, and lawsuits? -How to make your kids millionaires—without spoiling them Many kids mismanage their inheritance because they don’t have the skills to maintain it. How do we start teaching kids about business, responsibility, and wealth from the time they’re toddlers? -What’s coming in the economy (and how to prepare) Why record-high debt and rising delinquencies are just the beginning, and how to position yourself to profit from the downturn. -The five experts every wealthy family needs A will isn’t enough. Laurel reveals the power team behind every airtight estate plan, and the #1 mistake most people make when hiring them.   Guest Bio Loral Langemeier is a money expert, international speaker, entrepreneurial thought leader, and best-selling author of five books who is on a relentless mission to change the conversation about money and empower people around the world to become millionaires. To learn more, follow @askloral on Instagram and visit https://askloral.com/podcast to get Loral’s free gifts.      About Your Host  From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

You found the deal. You found the lender. You even closed with hard money. Now what? That’s the question too many investors forget to ask—until it’s too late. In today’s market, with traditional financing tightening up and banks saying “no” more often, smart investors know that real money is made after the flip. When you’ve got a reliable exit strategy. But here's the problem: too many investors get stuck in the deal because they never thought through how they were going to get out.  They scramble for financing after the fact, only to find the terms are terrible, if they can get approved at all.  That’s when the clock starts ticking, interest racks up, and the whole investment starts bleeding cash.  So what’s the play when the banks won’t play ball? Enter Aaron Chapman, a seasoned lender who’s made it his mission to get the unbankable deals bankable.  For over 20 years, Aaron has helped investors navigate the toughest markets. Now, he's teamed up with Private Money Club to help investors set themselves up for long-term wealth, not just short-term flips. In this episode, Aaron shares exactly what you need to do to make your investment deals irresistible, not just to private lenders, but to banks, too.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode -The “Exit Strategy Mistake” That’s Killing Deals Most investors think about finding the right property, not the right financing. What should really come first? -What Banks Aren’t Telling You (But Aaron Will) Think the DSCR loan is your answer? It might be, but not the way most lenders do it. What do smart investors look for in today's lending climate? -Why You Shouldn’t Pay Off That 30-Year Mortgage Early Could stretching out your mortgage be the best move you can make?   Guest Bio Aaron is the pre-eminent financing guy for property investors. He's a well-known educator in the industry, and has lots of tools in his financing toolbag. A veteran of the finance industry since 1997, Aaron is a battle-worn partner every real estate entrepreneur needs to walk through the tough parts of building a business. As America’s #1 Retail Mortgage Lender, his clients include people purchasing their first home, building their dream home, or investing in multiple properties for long-term cash flow. He is an expert in the complicated, leading to recognition by Scotsman Guide as one of the nation’s Top Originators. In addition to his mortgage career, Aaron is a published author with books and dozens of magazine articles. Visit https://aaronchapman.com/ to learn more and work with Aaron.  About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

We’ve all been told the same lie: work hard at a corporate job, and eventually, it’ll pay off. But here’s the truth—you can do everything right and still end up with nothing. Why? Because the financial system was never built to make you wealthy. It was built to keep you stuck. The banks, the government, and Wall Street have systematically wiped out the middle class—and most people don’t even realize how deep the trap goes. Until you learn how the game really works, financial freedom will always be out of reach. Most people cling to the comfort the system offers without seeing how it quietly robs them of their time, money, and freedom. Real wealth starts when you break free from the system and start thinking for yourself. Otherwise, you’ll spend your life making other people rich while you continue to struggle. That was Jason Sipple’s story. He spent years building million-dollar businesses for other people, until he woke up, broke the cycle, and took control. Today, Jason helps others do the same by teaching how money really works. So why aren’t more people using Infinite Banking? And how can you take back control of your financial future? In this episode, guest host Stephen Nagy is joined by Money Mentor and entrepreneur Jason Sipple, who shares his journey to financial freedom—and how you can change yours.   Things You’ll Learn In This Episode  -Break free from the big lie  If you think hard work will eventually pay off, you might be in for a rude awakening. How do you learn to work smarter? -Create your money philosophy  Most of what we believe about money comes from other people (and it’s often not good). How do we create better beliefs for ourselves?  -Income with no equity  Like many people, Jason was once trapped in the financial system, working hard to make others wealthy. What moment helped him finally break free?   Guest Bio Stephen Nagy is a real estate and financial professional, business and investing consultant, speaker and trainer, and partner at The Money School. Stephen Nagy left his career as a Personal Financial Advisor in 2007 to pursue his dream of being an entrepreneur and Real Estate Investor. Many years later, he has never looked back, becoming a lifelong student of business and investing, implementing strategies learned, gaining valuable personal experience, and following his passion of working with and sharing with others. Stephen has spoken on hundreds of stages across the United States and worked with thousands of students, helping them realize and achieve their financial goals. Over those travels, and through attending several Masterminds each year, Stephen has built an extensive network of other like-minded individuals, creating a community that we call the “Campfire”. Stephen is dedicated to helping his students & clients learn financial education, how to regain control of their money, and how to achieve their dreams by solving their money problems. Stephen now shares his experience, education, and strategies through weekly webinar trainings, Live events, and working with clients one-on-one. Find Stephen on Facebook.    Jason Sipple is a Money Mentor, a passionate advocate for financial empowerment, and a dedicated mentor for individuals and families seeking to achieve lasting financial freedom. With a deep commitment to simplifying complex financial concepts and a mission to help you build a brighter future, Jason is here to guide you on your financial journey. Jason’s journey into the world of financial empowerment began with his own experiences and challenges. A few years ago, he was a high achiever, leading a $25 million recruitment division and earning a substantial income. However, despite his professional success, he felt the weight of financial uncertainty and the struggle to provide more time and resources for his family. It was a turning point, fueled by personal growth and a commitment to mastering financial principles, that led Jason to embark on a mission to empower others. He recognized the need for a better way to secure his family’s future and set out to learn, simplify, and teach the financial philosophies that would become the cornerstone of his mission. To work with Jason, go to https://jasonsipple.com/ and watch the free webinar here.  About Your Host From pro snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.     Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!   

Most people do what they’re told when it comes to money—get a job, stash cash in a 401(k), and hope there’s enough to retire someday. But what do they get? Debt. Stress. Zero control over their time and money. Meanwhile, banks are making a fortune off their hard work. Savings get eaten up by taxes, inflation, and market crashes. Retirement accounts come with rules, restrictions, and penalties. And after years of grinding, most people still feel stuck, just trying to stay afloat. What if there was a way out? The Infinite Banking Concept flips the script. It’s not just about making money—it’s about keeping control. It’s a system that lets you take charge of your cash, grow wealth on your terms, and stop relying on banks that profit off you. With Infinite Banking, you decide how and when to use your money, without waiting until retirement or jumping through hoops.  How will Infinite Banking transform your life? In this episode, special guest host and Money School partner Stephen Nagy talks to trainer and entrepreneur Brian Fouts. Brian talks about his journey, how he found Infinite Banking, and how it changed the trajectory of his life.    Guest Bio Stephen Nagy is a real estate and financial professional, business and investing consultant, speaker and trainer, and partner at The Money School. Stephen Nagy left his career as a Personal Financial Advisor in 2007 to pursue his dream of being an entrepreneur and Real Estate Investor. Many years later, he has never looked back, becoming a lifelong student of business and investing, implementing strategies learned, gaining valuable personal experience, and following his passion of working with and sharing with others. Stephen has spoken on hundreds of stages across the United States and worked with thousands of students, helping them realize and achieve their financial goals. Over those travels, and through attending several Masterminds each year, Stephen has built an extensive network of other like-minded individuals, creating a community that we call the “Campfire”. Stephen is dedicated to helping his students & clients learn financial education, how to regain control of their money, and how to achieve their dreams by solving their money problems. Stephen now shares his experience, education, and strategies through weekly webinar trainings, Live events, and working with clients one-on-one. Find Stephen on Facebook.    Brian Fouts got his start in life following the traditional path… went to school, got a corporate job, saved money into a 401k, and got into debt because that's what everyone else around him was doing. Yet after almost 15 years in the rat race, he lost more than $500,000 to corrupt financial planners and institutions. He was fed up with the rat race and the broken traditional path that did not provide financial security for his family. After leaving his corporate job and successfully investing in numerous assets including real estate, private lending, and online businesses, as well as growing a financial education business to the Inc.5000 list, Brian discovered the Infinite Banking Concept almost 10 years ago. After using this strategy in his own life, Brian made it his mission to help others gain back control of their money and financial life with this strategy. After impacting over 60,000 clients and individuals through his various companies and ventures, Brian continues to help others discover how real wealth and freedom can be attained through the Infinite Banking Concept. Visit https://brian.beyourownbanker.com/ to book an appointment with Brian.    About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.   Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!