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Iron Culture presented by MASS
Author: Eric Helms & Eric Trexler
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Iron Culture was started by Eric Helms and Omar Isuf as a means of exploring the world of physical culture and attempting to distill a unified philosophy of lifting and to help listeners find greater meaning from the iron. It's now hosted by Eric Helms and Eric Trexler, who repeatedly beg Omar to return as a guest.
Iron Culture focuses on dispensing practical, useful information to the listener, bouncing from history, to philosophy, to contemporary lifting culture issues, to science. The format includes casual conversations between the two hosts on a variety of topics, discussions with a panel of experts and interviews with authoritative figures in the lifting community.
Iron Culture is proudly presented by the MASS Research Review.
Iron Culture focuses on dispensing practical, useful information to the listener, bouncing from history, to philosophy, to contemporary lifting culture issues, to science. The format includes casual conversations between the two hosts on a variety of topics, discussions with a panel of experts and interviews with authoritative figures in the lifting community.
Iron Culture is proudly presented by the MASS Research Review.
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A recent dust-up in the evidence-based fitness world has sparked a lot of discussion about credentials. How are they earned, what do they represent, and how do they impact the way we engage with someone's content, recommendations, or products? This episode of Iron Culture discusses all of that (and more). Be sure to support our friends over at elitefts.com by using our discount code (MRR10) to save 10% on your next order of lifting gear or apparel. Time stamps: 0:00 Intro 4:42 The big dust-up 10:01 What goes into a PhD? 17:40 Who decides whether or not a PhD is good enough? 28:43 Three important points 41:36 What does a PhD actually mean? 49:47 Evaluating someone's credentials in a given area 59:49 Practical tips for assessing claims/creators
Helms has neglected to show up yet again, so Ep 347 is a solo show in which Dr Trex details a recent saga in which a paper about apple cider vinegar was retracted. The episode covers what the paper reported, how Trex & co pursued clarification, how the paper was eventually retracted, and (most importantly) what this means for "evidence-based" fitness. Even if you don't care about apple cider vinegar, there are important lessons to draw from an evidence-based view of fitness that acknowledges the fallibility of published evidence. By the way, if you're going to stock up on some lifting gear or apparel, please be sure to support our friends over at elitefts.com and remember to use our code "MRR10" for a 10% discount. Time stamps: 0:00 Intro 5:34 The original paper and findings 13:27 Our letter to the editor 17:54 The authors' response 23:59 The retraction 29:06 The statistical investigation 32:13 Why the retraction process doesn't actually work 38:30 How to be "evidence based" when unreliable evidence is routinely published
In this episode of Iron Culture, Eric Trexler welcomes back Eric Helms, who clarifies recent misunderstandings about his commitment to the iron game. Helms shares insights from his recent travels, including a global education event with TechnoGym in Bali, and discusses the importance of cultural experiences in fitness education. The conversation also covers strategies for managing jet lag during international travel, the mechanics of hypertrophy, and the significance of community in fitness. As Helms prepares for upcoming competitions, he reflects on his journey in bodybuilding and the evolving landscape of the fitness industry. Need some lifting gear? Use our discount code (MRR10) over at www.elitefts.com Chapters 00:00 Welcome Back to Iron Culture 03:50 Clarifying Misunderstandings 09:51 Eric's Upcoming Competition 14:52 Travel Adventures and Experiences 23:42 Jet Lag and Nutrition Strategies 32:00 Engaging with the Fitness Community 39:39 The Rise of Science in Fitness 48:50 Hypertrophy and Leverage Data 01:20:46 Wrapping Up and Future Plans
In this episode of Iron Culture, Eric Trexler is joined by Dr. Lauren Colenso-Semple to discuss various topics in fitness, particularly focusing on creatine supplementation, female-oriented creatine marketing, the rising popularity of creatine gummies, and several creatine myths. They discuss the importance of understanding the science behind creatine and debunk common misconceptions before moving on to discuss the role of exercise in bone health and fracture prevention. Need some lifting gear? Use our discount code (MRR10) over at www.elitefts.com Chapters 0:00 Introduction 3:45 Today's Show 5:38 Creatine for Women: Marketing vs. Science 9:09 Debunking Myths: Creatine Levels in Women 17:59 Issues With Creatine Gummies 24:48 Creatine Washout and Cycling 30:00 Creatine and Subcutaneous Water Retention 36:32 Training for Bone Health 46:22 Loading Recommendations for Bone Remodeling 50:05 Nuances in Bone Research 1:01:11 Dietary Considerations for Bone Health
In this episode of Iron Culture, Eric Trexler interviews Dr. Marc Lewis, the director of Applied Sports Science for the Houston Texans. They discuss the role of sports scientists in maximizing athlete performance through data collection, management, and analysis. Marc shares insights on the day-to-day responsibilities of a sports scientist, the importance of understanding athlete load and stress, and the evolution of sports science in the NFL. They also explore the future of sports science careers and provide advice for aspiring sports scientists. Need some lifting gear? Use our discount code (MRR10) over at www.elitefts.com Keep up-to-date with Dr. Lewis and his projects: https://drmarclewis.com/ Instagram: @marctlewis Twitter/X: @marctlewis Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Sports Science in Football 01:47 What Does a Sports Scientist Do? 7:26 From Data to Decisions 11:00 Navigating the Data Overload 23:13 Applied Data Versus Peer-Reviewed Evidence 27:20 Applying Sports Science Insights to Strength Coaching 34:46 The Reality of Overtraining in Elite Sport Versus General Fitness 45:17 The Extremes of Human Performance 51:01 Unique Needs of Elite Athletes 56:45 The Current State (and Future) of Sports Science in America 1:09:46 Building a Career in Sports Science
In this episode of Iron Culture, hosts Eric Trexler and Eric Helms discuss recent developments in college football and powerlifting, in addition to introducing their partnership with Elite FTS. The conversation shifts to a Q&A session where they address various topics, including collagen supplementation, creatine dosage, and the relationship between muscular endurance and strength. They also provide practical tips for reducing food focus during dieting and discuss the impact of hypertrophy on athletic performance. Need some lifting gear? Use our discount code (MRR10) over at www.elitefts.com Time stamps 00:00 Introduction (College Football & Powerlifting News) 04:25 Partnership with Elite FTS and Personal Experiences 11:50 Collagen Supplementation: Debates and Research Overview 35:37 Power Development: Training Volumes and Frequencies 49:00 Creatine: Dosage, Urination Frequency, and Cognitive Effects 1:03:18 Muscular Endurance: Training Insights 01:08:34 Hypertrophy and Athletic Performance 1:19:00 Creatine During Peak Week 1:19:58 Dieting Strategies and Food Focus
In this episode of Iron Culture, hosts Eric Trexler and Eric Helms discuss various topics including the ongoing debate about the relationship between muscle growth and strength gains. They discuss brand new findings from the largest and longest-running study on resistance training, explore the implications of "apparent" sex differences in strength gains, and emphasize the need for nuanced statistical analysis in understanding the factors that contribute to strength gains and observed sex differences. Want to read a thorough analysis of the article we discussed in this episode (and many more)? Support the show by joining the MASS Community at massresearchreview.com Chapters 00:00 Intro 09:10 The Debate on Muscle Size and Strength 12:30 New Research on Muscle Strength and Size 20:45 Exploring Sex Differences in Muscle Training 26:40 The Hierarchy of Evidence in Research 32:00 Relationships Between Strength And Muscle Size 36:40 Lifting For Sport: History And Changing Cultural Norms 39:00 Back To The Study Results (Understanding Sex Differences in Strength Gains) 42:15 Nuances of Statistical Analysis: Relationships Between Strength And Muscle Size 54:10 Aside About Collegiate Sports In USA 56:50 Causal Discovery Analysis in Strength Research 1:08:00 Summary and Conclusions: The Role of Muscle Growth in Strength Gains 1:21:45 Listener Question: Sample Sizes in Exercise Science 1:27:10 Outro
In this episode of Iron Culture, hosts Eric Helms and Michael Zourdos engage with Dr. Zac Robinson to discuss his dissertation research on the effects of resistance training volume on muscle adaptations. The conversation delves into the complexities of individual responses to training, the importance of research design, and the implications of findings for coaching practices. They emphasize the need for caution in interpreting data and the evolving nature of sports science, highlighting the significance of collaboration and flexibility in training approaches. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 06:25 The PhD Journey and Team Dynamics 11:32 Dissertation Overview and Research Focus 18:43 Research Methodology and Individual Variability 26:50 Understanding Individual Response Variation in Training 32:09 Study Design: Isolating Variables in Training Responses 37:33 The Importance of Replication in Research 42:40 Findings 53:41 Limitations and Implications of the Study 01:00:17 Genetics and Individual Response Variability 01:02:59 The Dose-Response Relationship in Training 01:06:25 Shifting Perspectives on Training Individualization 01:11:00 The Role of Sports Science in Coaching 01:19:51 Future Directions in Resistance Training Research
In this episode, Drs Trexler and Helms discuss various topics including updates on Eric's surgery, the valuable (but very modest) effects of protein intake on muscle gains, incontinence after contest prep, the relationship between sleep quality and nutrient timing, the recent ban on smelling salts in the NFL, and more. Time stamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:11 Preview of next week's episode (non-responders, hyper-responders, etc) 07:01 Trex's surgery update 12:11 Discussion on Protein Meta-Analyses and Research Updates (how much does protein intake actually matter for gains?) 33:10 Why meta-analyses differ from RCTs in terms of "expiration dates" 44:15 The Impact of Training vs. Nutrition (for muscle growth) 51:41 Q&A: Supplementation for Lifters (and Specifically Vegans Who Lift) 55:49 Incontinence, Increased Urine Output, and Contest Prep 59:16 Chrono Nutrition and Sleep Quality 01:11:28 The Role of Smelling Salts in Sports Performance (and Football)
In this episode of Iron Culture, Helms and Trex have a lengthy discussion about the ECA stack and yohimbine. The history, the mechanisms, the regulatory changes, the practical applications – you name it, they cover it. Don’t miss this episode if you have an interest in fat loss, stimulants, or dietary supplementation in general. Also, be sure to check out the newest issue of the MASS Research Review! Learn more at massresearchreview.com Time stamps 0:00 Intro 4:18 New issue of the MASS Research Review 10:42 Helms contest prep update 13:15 The history of the ECA stack and supplement regulation 30:07 Ephedra vs Ephedrine 35:31 Why people took ephedrine / ECA stack 36:30 Trends in PED use over time 45:00 Research on the ECA stack 50:58 Banning lifters for stimulant use 53:15 Effects of ephedrine + caffeine on metabolism and fat loss 1:02:44 What does aspirin really add to the ECA stack? 1:13:00 Do NSAIDs blunt hypertrophy? 1:21:25 How yohimbine works (and yohimbe vs yohimbine distinction) 1:31:10 Regulatory status of yohimbine 1:32:58 Practical applications
Back when Trex was a 14 year old, his wrestling coach noticed his passion for training and nutrition. This coach took Trex under his wing, and they started absorbing and applying as much information as they could. Their source material, almost exclusively, was the content produced by Dr. Jim Stoppani – primarily from magazine articles, but also from the totally novel medium of online video content. Jim was a jacked PhD with tons of “in the trenches” experience - back in 2005 that was a very rare combination, and there’s no question that people like Jim led the way for the next generation of “bodybuilding academics” like Helms and Trex. Jim has made a huge mark on the fitness industry. Perhaps his most impressive feat is maintaining his impact and relevance as the industry has fundamentally transformed itself multiple times. Jim was the face of some of the biggest muscle magazines (in their prime), one of the most recognizable content creators when bodybuilding dot com was THE place for online fitness, and way ahead of the curve when it comes to building your own platform and leveraging mobile fitness applications. In this episode of Iron Culture, the Erics have a great chat with Dr. Stoppani about how the industry (and science communication more broadly) has evolved over the last 25-30 years. To learn more about Jim and support his work, check out his social media channels and his website https://www.jimstoppani.com/ Time stamps 0:00 Intro 3:22 Jim’s education 14:18 Jim’s transition to the muscle magazine industry 30:44 Jim’s bodybuilding dot com days 44:52 Fitness content creation in the age of social media: the good, the bad, and the ugly
Join hosts Eric Trexler and Eric Helms as they explore the potential "replication crisis" in exercise science, drawing parallels to the well-documented crisis in psychology. In this episode, they delve into the challenges of replicating research findings, the perils of placing too much confidence in singular studies, the importance of cautious interpretation of new studies, and the value of meta-analyses in understanding true effect sizes. Whether you're a seasoned lifter or new to the world of evidence-based practice, this conversation offers valuable insights into making informed decisions about your training. Time stamps: 00:00 – Introduction (and Helms’ travel updates) 17:29 - Replication Crisis in Psychology: Discussion on the replication crisis observed in psychology and its implications. 32:45 – What is “replication” 44:36 – Results of “reproducibility project” in exercise science 1:00:04 – Why are replication rates so low in exercise science? 1:27:24 – What does this mean for “evidence-based fitness” and application of exercise science? Relevant links: www.massresearchreview.com https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26315443/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40522610/
In this episode of Iron Culture, Dr. Eric Trexler and Dr. Lauren Colenso-Semple discuss science related to attractiveness, coolness, and personality type. They explore scientific studies on the factors associated with perceived attractiveness and "coolness," discussing body fat percentages and societal perceptions. The conversation shifts to how personality traits appear to predict workout preferences and engagement in fitness, then they debate the importance of matching exercise to individual characteristics. Time stamps: 00:00 Introduction to Iron Culture and Guests 5:57 The Science of (Male) Attractiveness 10:39 Evolutionary Underpinnings of Male Attractiveness 13:53 Distorted Perceptions of Attractiveness (In the Fitness World) 20:10 The Irony of Pursuing Attractiveness 22:22 Body-Fat and Optimized Health 24:18 Surprising Article Feedback 28:50 Unrealistic Body Standards and Gender Perceptions 32:49 Achieving the Outcome Versus Doing Hard Things 35:07 Attractiveness is More Than Body Shape/Size 37:48 The Science of Being Cool 47:19 Matching Exercise To Personality Types References: Xia F, Sauciuvenaite J, Bissland R, Hambly C, Starr-Vaanholt L, Faries MD, et al. The relationship between body fatness and physical attractiveness in males. Personality and Individual Differences. 2025 Sep 1;243:113240. de Jager S, Coetzee N, Coetzee V. Facial Adiposity, Attractiveness, and Health: A Review. Front Psychol. 2018 Dec 21;9:2562. Brierley ME, Brooks KR, Mond J, Stevenson RJ, Stephen ID. The Body and the Beautiful: Health, Attractiveness and Body Composition in Men’s and Women’s Bodies. PLoS One. 2016;11(6):e0156722. Sorokowski P, Kościński K, Sorokowska A, Huanca T. Preference for Women’s Body Mass and Waist-to-Hip Ratio in Tsimane’ Men of the Bolivian Amazon: Biological and Cultural Determinants. PLoS One. 2014 Aug 22;9(8):e105468. Tovée MJ, Cornelissen PL. Female and male perceptions of female physical attractiveness in front-view and profile. Br J Psychol. 2001 May;92(Pt 2):391–402. Jayedi A, Khan TA, Aune D, Emadi A, Shab-Bidar S. Body fat and risk of all-cause mortality: a systematic review and dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies. Int J Obes (Lond). 2022 Sep;46(9):1573–81. Hu J, Chen X, Yang J, Giovannucci E, Lee DH, Luo W, et al. Association between fat mass and mortality: analysis of Mendelian randomization and lifestyle modification. Metabolism. 2022 Nov;136:155307. Ramlau-Hansen CH, Thulstrup AM, Nohr EA, Bonde JP, Sørensen TIA, Olsen J. Subfecundity in overweight and obese couples. Hum Reprod. 2007 Jun;22(6):1634–7. Wei S, Schmidt MD, Dwyer T, Norman RJ, Venn AJ. Obesity and menstrual irregularity: associations with SHBG, testosterone, and insulin. Obesity (Silver Spring). 2009 May;17(5):1070–6. Liu Y, Hu X, Xiong M, Li J, Jiang X, Wan Y, et al. Association of BMI with erectile dysfunction: A cross-sectional study of men from an andrology clinic. Front Endocrinol (Lausanne). 2023;14:1135024. https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fxge0001799 https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2025.1587472/full
In this episode of Iron Culture, Eric Helms interviews Dr. Stian Larsen, who shares his journey from powerlifting to becoming a researcher in exercise science. They discuss the intricacies of biomechanics, the importance of understanding squat techniques, and the latest research findings on muscle hypertrophy and resistance profiles. Stian emphasizes the need for practical applications in training and the significance of collaboration in research. The conversation also touches on future research directions and the role of education in advancing the field of strength training. Time stamps 0:00 Introduction 4:33 Stian's Journey in Powerlifting and Coaching 16:00 Biomechanics and the Sticking Point in Squats 23:56 Understanding Muscle Forces and Training Strategies 33:04 Transitioning to Hypertrophy Research 35:43 Research on Muscle Length and Hypertrophy 48:58 Practical Applications of Research Findings 50:02 Biceps Research Findings and Surprises 1:03:28 Practical Applications of Research Findings 1:04:53 Quadriceps Hypertrophy Study Results 1:22:27 Lateral Raises and Resistance Profiles
In this episode of Iron Culture, the Erics provide some updates, corrections, and clarifications related to their recent episode exploring the science of microplastics. After that they take a brief moment to celebrate the 100th issue of the MASS Research Review, then answer listener questions on topics including: tasty meat alternatives, programming supersets, scaling dietary variables for very small/short individuals, the pros & cons of "extended release" caffeine formulations, the utility & shortcomings of BMI as a health metric, and more. MASS is celebrating its 100th issue, but it's never to late to join in on the fun! Learn more at massresearchreview.com Also, don't miss Iron Culture's sister podcast, @fpfpodcast hosted by MASS's very own Eric Trexler and Dr. Lauren Colenso-Semple Time stamps (coming soon): 0:00 Intro 0:58 Revisiting microplastics (updates, corrections, and clarifications) 25:08 MASS celebrates 100th issue 34:00 Well-wishes for bodybuilding legend Ronnie Coleman 41:37 Tasty meat alternatives 47:12 Programming supersets 49:23 Scaling dietary variables for very small/short individuals 57:10 The utility & shortcomings of BMI as a health metric 1:05:03 Individual response variation to training 1:16:12 The pros & cons of "extended release" caffeine formulations
In this episode of Iron Culture, Dr. Eric Helms talks about his forthcoming article in the MASS Research Review covering the purported harms of high-protein diets. This isn’t your typical oversimplified dunk-fest that readily dismisses concerns about high-protein diets. Instead, Helms reviews a thorough paper that reviews common concerns in detail and assessed their plausibility in an objective manner. The claims include: Claim 1 – protein reduces lifespan Claim 2 – protein makes bones weaker Claim 3 – protein harms kidneys Claim 4 – protein causes diabetes After that, Dr. Eric Trexler discusses a recent Instagram thread that pulled him into arguments against his will. The post was about his recent article on ketogenic diets and seed oils – two topics that are always bound to attract some controversy and heated debate. This conversation discusses the strengths and limitations of different types of scientific research and also touches on bias, objectivity, and the process of seeking the truth with an open mind. Time stamps: 0:00 Intro 3:00 Helms’ new article about the purported harms of high-protein diets 19:25 Claim 1 – protein reduces lifespan 27:48 Claim 2 – protein makes bones weaker 43:38 Claim 3 – protein harms kidneys 50:53 Claim 4 – protein causes diabetes 57:22 Trex’s social media beefs – keto and seed oils 1:03:40 Types of observational studies 1:08:35 Seeking truth versus defending biases 1:17:32 Limitations versus fatal flaws 1:24:19 Limitations of RCTs (randomized controlled trials) 1:32:23 Wrapping up
In this episode, the hosts discuss various aspects of bodybuilding prep, including caloric intake, metabolic adaptation, and the impact of extreme dieting. They explore historical studies that provide insights into these phenomena and discuss practical strategies for weight loss. The conversation transitions to powerlifting, specifically the recent IPF Worlds, highlighting the competitive dynamics and standout performances in the event. In this conversation, Eric Helms highlights impressive performances and battles in various weight classes. He emphasizes the growth of the sport and the challenges faced by lifters, particularly in extreme conditions. The subsequent Q&A covers the balance between powerlifting and bodybuilding, exercise order for hypertrophy, and the relationship between energy balance and recovery. Additionally, the practicality and effectiveness of using weighted vests for exercise are examined, providing insights into their potential benefits and drawbacks. Time stamps: 00:00 Introduction and Helms' Updates on Bodybuilding Prep 01:50 Caloric Intake and Metabolic Adaptation 05:35 Extreme Cases of Metabolic Adaptation: Insights from Historical Studies 25:26 IPF Worlds Recap 44:44 Programming for Powerlifting and Bodybuilding (Simultaneously) 48:26 Exercise Order and Hypertrophy 01:00:23 Energy Balance and Recovery 01:05:44 The Pros and Cons of Weighted Vests
In this episode of Iron Culture, the Erics begin by discussing Helms' prep updates and the standout performances from the recent powerlifting World Champions. The conversation also touches on body composition and attractiveness, highlighting the misconceptions in the fitness industry regarding ideal body fat levels. After that they take a deep dive into the strategies of cutting weight in various sports, comparing the approaches of powerlifting, bodybuilding, and combat sports. Finally, they explore the differences in weight cutting techniques across different sports, emphasizing the importance of planning and strategy for optimal performance. Time stamps: 00:00 Helms Prep Update and World Powerlifting Highlights 15:07 Body Composition, Attractiveness, Evolution, and the Fitness Industry 31:16 Trexler's Take On Comparing Weight Cuts in Different Sports (Powerlifting, Bodybuilding, Combat Sports) 40:32 Helms' Take On Comparing Weight Cuts in Different Sports (Powerlifting, Bodybuilding, Combat Sports) 57:11 Electrolyte Management and Hydration Techniques 1:03:05 Final Thoughts on Weight Management and Performance
In this episode of the Iron Culture Podcast, the Erics discuss various topics including updates on Helms' contest prep vlog, a preview of the upcoming Powerlifting World Championships, misconceptions surrounding TRT, the effects of cold exposure, and the concept of lean mass hyper responders. They also discuss the importance of (and misconceptions surrounding) women's health research, and engage in a Q&A session addressing questions about energy expenditure, body composition, and more. Time stamps: 00:00 Introduction and Updates 02:59 Powerlifting World Championships Preview 07:55 New MASS issue; TRT misconceptions 16:50 Cold Exposure and Its Misconceptions 18:00 Lean Mass Hyper Responders (and resulting chaos) 31:20 Women's Health and Fitness Research 46:24 Understanding Training Status in Research 52:52 Core Strengthening and building general athleticism 59:03 Debunking Myths Around Posture and Anterior Pelvic Tilt 01:01:50 Evaluating BIA and BIS for Body Composition 01:10:48 Reconciling Energy Expenditure Models in Active Populations
What's the deal with microplastics? Where do they come from? Are they in our bodies? If so, are they harmful? Also, what's the deal with microwaving Tupperware and other plastic containers? This episode is all about plastics - what we know, what we don't know, and what you can do about it. Key reference: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11800385/ Time stamps: 0:00 Intro 7:20 What are microplastics and where to they come from? 16:40 How much microplastic is in our bodies? Does it seem to be a problem? 32:05 What can you do about microplastics? 41:50 What can you do about Tupperware and other food storage options? 1:06:51 Related Q&A 1:20:48 Wrapping up
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listened to before breakfast and highly regret that decision 😂😅
Decentralisation done perfectly MR HELMS !
This is a better comedic podcast than the Joe Rogan show, though Joe is awesome. Comedy with a niche sub genre of those who worship at the iron altar and are college educated (given the choice big words the host choose to use). Maybe dumb down the fancy words around the info but keep up the funny banter.
A shame the audio from the guests sucks. Cool guys and awesome athletes.
than you for discussing Erictile Dysfunction Brofessors!
Fantastic
loved this podcast
Omar Diminished 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A bit disappointed at Ed making fun of eating disorders and eating disorder recovery. As someone recovering from a chronic eating disorder myself I enjoyed listening to Iron Culture because I found an outlet in building strength through weight training and have otherwise found the banter between Omar and Ed so entertaining. I guess I'm not the right audience. Disheartened to have to unsubscribe.
Am I the odd man out to not believe they'd actually repeat wsm events for the sake of lighting? Seems ridiculous and I've never, not once, heard of this.
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love the content guys! 👌
tell me. how does it work?