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Performance Matters | A 5 Moments of Need® Podcast Series

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This podcast series dives deeper into the 5 Moments of Learning Need®.

The 5 Moments of Need present a practical framework to drive higher job performance. The Five Moments of Learning Need focus on the different times where workers need learning. They are: New—when you are learning something for the first time, More—when you are expanding your knowledge, Apply—when you are learning while in the flow of work, Solve—when you need to solve a problem, and Change—When you are adapting to change.

This series, hosted by Bob Mosher and Conrad Gottfredson, will help you to better understand the theory and best practices behind this powerful methodology and framework.

Visit www.5momentsofneed.com for more resources and join the conversation on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/5-moments-of-need/.
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In this episode of Performance Matters, Bob Mosher sits down with Ryan Sarpalius to explore why performance consulting is the skill L&D professionals need now more than ever. They unpack what separates training from true performance solutions, share real-world stories where consulting uncovered better outcomes, and discuss how shifting to a performance-first mindset builds stronger partnerships with stakeholders and delivers real business impact. Tune in to hear how you can elevate your role from order taker to strategic partner. Link to Performance Consulting Workshop mentioned in episode.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In part two of this three-part series, Con Gottfredson sits down again with Sivaram Jambunathan to dive deeper into the realities of implementing workflow learning in the manufacturing environment. Building on the first episode, Siv shares how his team rolled out a Digital Coach, navigated adoption challenges, and accelerated speed to competency on the production floor. From onboarding new hires to transferring critical knowledge, Siv reveals how a “green path / red path” coaching model transformed safety, confidence, and performance—helping employees feel like they won the day every day. Curious how workflow learning can drive measurable impact in high-stakes, fast-moving industries? Download or listen today.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, Dr. Conrad Gottfredson sits down with Sivaram Jambunathan to explore how workflow learning and the 5 Moments of Need® framework are transforming the manufacturing floor. Siv shares his journey from traditional L&D to embedding learning directly into the flow of work, tackling challenges like talent retention, safety, and time-to-competence. Download or listen now to learn how his team leveraged the 5 Moments of Need Summit, leadership buy-in, and the EnABLE methodology to revolutionize workforce performance in a high-stakes environment where learning can’t stop production.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, Dr. Aubrey Kurteff discusses how Meta meets rapid content demands using performance-first principles, the EnABLE methodology, and Reusable Content Objects (RCOs). Aubrey emphasizes balancing speed with instructional quality, leveraging AI for summarizing and structuring content, and evolving the role of L&D from content developers to performance consultants. Her insights offer a roadmap for scaling effective, workflow-integrated learning strategies in fast-paced environments. Download or listen now!   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this powerful episode of the Performance Matters podcast, Bob Mosher welcomes back Josh Cavalier for a timely and transformative conversation about how artificial intelligence is reshaping the future of learning and development. Josh shares how the role of the instructional designer must evolve into what he calls the Human-Machine Performance Analyst—a new, strategic function built for the AI era. Together, they explore the real-world implications of generative AI, what’s at risk for those who resist change, and the bold opportunities ahead for L&D to reclaim its seat at the table as a performance-driving force. If you're serious about elevating learning, enabling people, and empowering performance—this episode is your roadmap.  Download or listen now!   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this Performance Matters Podcast episode, host Bob Mosher sits down with the 2025 5 Moments of Need Trailblazer Award winners, Karen Conlin and Alfred Remmits, to explore the transformative world of workflow learning and performance support. Listen as Karen, a learning professional from a Toronto law firm, and Alfred, a veteran in the learning and development industry, share their inspiring journeys of reimagining how organizations support employee performance. They dive deep into their groundbreaking projects, discussing how digital coaching and performance-first approaches have revolutionized learning in sectors ranging from healthcare to corporate consulting. Hear firsthand accounts of reducing onboarding times, increasing employee confidence, and solving complex information access challenges. The conversation tackles critical industry challenges, including the limitations of traditional training methods and the urgent need for adaptive learning solutions in a rapidly changing workplace. With candid insights into their professional struggles, breakthrough moments, and vision for the future of learning and development, Karen and Alfred offer a powerful narrative about innovation, persistence, and the critical role of performance support in modern organizations. This episode is a must-listen for learning professionals, leaders, and anyone interested in understanding how workflow learning can transform workplace performance and employee development.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
Following a whirlwind spring and the successful 5 Moments of Need Summit, we're excited to debut the results from our first-ever State of Workflow Learning Survey. With input from 71 organizations across 15 different industries, this episode covers what L&D teams are actually doing when it comes to implementing workflow learning—and where there’s still room to grow. We hope this episode sparks a broader conversation and encourages even more of you to contribute to next year’s survey. If you want the full report and to participate in future research, tune in to find out how. Whether you’re just getting started with workflow learning or have been leading the charge, this episode is your chance to reflect on where we are—and where we’re headed. Give the episode a listen. Share it with your team. Let’s keep building the future of performance support—together.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, we dive deep into a transformational element of the 5 Moments of Need methodology: the Critical Impact of Failure (CIF). Bob Mosher is joined by none other than Dr. Conrad Gottfredson—pioneer of performance-first learning design—to unpack the critical role CIF plays in shaping instructional decisions and, more importantly, organizational impact. Together, they explore why not all skills are created equal, how CIF can be used to prioritize learning investments, and how this simple yet powerful lens helps L&D professionals align efforts with true business risk and value. If you're ready to shift from training everything to enabling performance where it matters most—this episode is for you. Tune in for a compelling conversation that might just change how you define learning’s value.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, attend the Summit, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
What exactly is a Digital Coach, and how does it differ from AI-driven coaching tools? In this episode of the Performance Matters Podcast, Bob Mosher untangles the confusion surrounding Digital Coaches in relation to the 5 Moments of Need® framework. He explores how a Digital Coach serves as an essential performance-first solution—going beyond AI-driven insights to provide just-in-time, contextual support in the flow of work. Tune in to uncover the true role of a Digital Coach, why terminology matters, and how L&D professionals can leverage structured support to drive measurable business impact.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, attend the Summit, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
This episode of the Performance Matters Podcast takes a fresh approach to the crucial shift from a training-focused mindset to a performance-driven strategy. This episode features, Donna Audritsh, an APPLY team member and an expert in conducting a Rapid Workflow Analysis (RWA)—the first step in transforming the way L&D supports workplace performance. Donna walks us through the critical role of the RWA in analyzing and mapping workflows to ensure that the learning support aligns seamlessly with business goals. Whether you're an instructional designer, learning leader, or performance consultant, this episode is packed with insights on how to become a more strategic partner within your organization. Listen now or download the episode to enjoy anytime!   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
Conrad Gottfredson joins host, Bob Mosher, in this episode to explore the advanced principles of instructional design that go beyond the foundational methodologies of the 5 Moments of Need. This episode is a must listen if you’re looking to dig deeper into agile instructional practices, the power of iterative design, and the critical role of minimum viable products in performance-focused learning. Bob and Con’s discussion includes practical insights on targeted training, the distinction between learning something new versus learning more, and strategies to effectively manage change in the workplace Download or listen now and get ready to enhance your instructional strategies with cutting-edge practices and thought leadership from the best in the field!   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2025 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, we dive into the transformative power of starting with the end in mind for learning and development (L&D) initiatives.  Guest, Jack J. Phillips, share his insights on shifting the narrative from being order-takers to strategic partners by focusing on measurable business impact. Bob and Jack explore the importance of aligning learning programs with organizational goals and unpack the "value chain" framework: Reaction, Learning, Application, Impact, and ROI. Tune in to discover practical steps to position L&D as a business-critical function, elevate the role of learning leaders, and deliver tangible, impactful results.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode of The Performance Matters Podcast, Bob Mosher reconnects with Josh Cavalier—AI expert, seasoned L&D innovator, and popular guest from our AI Matters series. Josh’s return couldn't be more timely; the rapid evolution in AI since his last visit has reshaped not only technology but our roles within learning and development. Join Bob and Josh as they delve into AI’s powerful, disruptive presence across industries, its intricate relationship with L&D, and what 2025 may hold for professionals navigating this shifting landscape. Listen or download now.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this insightful episode, we explore the importance of embedding evaluation and measurement directly into the design process, eliminating the costly pitfalls of treating it as an afterthought. Our guest, Patti P. Phillips of the ROI Institute, takes us through their 12-step, four-phase ROI methodology, explaining how strategic planning, data collection, and guiding principles create a defendable, scalable framework. We discuss the alignment of workflow learning with measurement, drawing connections between performance improvement and real-time data application. Whether you’re a leader striving to measure the impact of initiatives or just looking to simplify data-driven decisions, this episode delivers practical tips to improve programs, processes, and outcomes. Tune in and discover how evaluation, when done proactively, transforms complexity into clarity.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, Bob Mosher and Sara Chizzo explore real-world examples of organizations that achieved remarkable cost savings by implementing Digital Coaches and performance support solutions.  Learn how these tools streamline tasks, minimize inefficiencies, and deliver tangible business benefits. They also dive into the critical process of aligning metrics with operational outcomes, highlighting how accurate data can enhance training and drive lasting business impact.  Tune in, or download now, for detailed insights on optimizing performance and maximizing ROI through smarter solutions.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode of the 5 Moments of Need Performance Matters series, Bob Mosher sits down with Tom Liddell, Learning & Performance Design Manager at MidFirst Bank, to explore the challenges and successes of scaling proof of concepts within organizations. Drawing from his 15 years of experience in learning performance, Tom shares invaluable insights from his work, specifically around managing stakeholder expectations and implementing iterative design were crucial to success. Tom underscores the importance of building trust, celebrating small wins, and knowing when to seek new technological solutions. This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to begin, or improve upon, their workflow learning journey. Tune in now, or download the episode, for a thoughtful conversation about continuous improvement, metrics, and the power of incremental progress!   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode we dive deep into the critical phases of delivering and optimizing learning solutions with guest, Sue Reber of APPLY Synergies. Sue shares her journey from the early days of problem-based learning to her current role at APPLY Synergies, focusing on the shift from training to performance support. In addition, she and host Bob Mosher explore what "skills" truly mean in the context of learning design, the importance of blending training with on-the-job support, and how to navigate the complexities of technology and content management. Tune in to learn practical insights on moving from theory to real-world application in the 5 Moments of Need framework. Please note that some parts of the audio in this episode may be of lower quality due to connectivity issues. We apologize for any inconvenience.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, Bob chats with Scott Schmoldt, Associate Director of Learning Operations at UMR, about how the pandemic fast-tracked a shift from old-school training to a performance-driven approach. In their discussion Scott dives into UMR's journey with the 5 Moments of Need methodology, the power of knowing L&D's roots, and how to rally teams around a shared vision using the right language.  Listen or download this episode now to also hear Scott chat about the game-changing impact of measuring training outcomes and the ongoing challenge of getting learners to embrace this new mindset.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
In this episode, Suzan Haizlip, VP, Learning & Performance Operations Manager at MidFirst Bank discusses how her team successfully aligned their learning initiatives with business goals, resulting in significant improvements in audit scores and a reduction in new hire proficiency time. She emphasizes the importance of listening to business unit leaders, building relationships, and providing practical, accessible training solutions. Download, or tune in now, to gain valuable insights on how to position your L&D department as a trusted advisor and essential partner within your organization.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
This mini-series episode features Donna Audritsh, Senior 5 Moments of Need Consultant. Bob and Donna discuss how we, as an L&D industry, have strayed from our core objectives in instructional design and the necessity of refocusing on real-world performance and tasks. The conversation highlights the need for L&D professionals to integrate more closely with business goals, partner effectively with stakeholders, and redefine success beyond traditional training metrics. Download or listen now to this thought-provoking discussion that promises to reshape how you approach learning and development in your organization.   Have questions about this content or another resource on the site? Let us know! Use this form to let us know you’re interested in scheduling a call with a member of the team. We’re always happy to discuss your current, future, or aspirational initiatives in real-time. For more 5 Moments of Need resources, visit our website, join the conversation, download our ebook, and subscribe to this podcast so as not to miss a single episode. Copyright © 2024 by APPLY Synergies, LLC | All Rights Reserved. 
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