Today, Steve speaks with psychologist Dr. Glen Moriarty, founder and CEO of Seven Cups, a free emotional support service with 570,000 trained volunteer listeners who support users in 189 countries. Steve and Glen explore the origins of Seven Cups, its background and its global user base, and discuss why so many feel alone in a hyper-connected online world. Glen also explains the nature of the gift economy and how we can avoid getting addicted to technology. Key Takeaways: Even as more things move online, human interaction remains important. Technology can be good and bad, it depends on how it’s designed. The mental health care system needs better triaging so that people get the right help. Tune in to hear more about: How and why Seven Cups began (1:58) Technology addiction (4:59) Whether Seven Cups is replacing humans with computers when it comes to mental health (9:54) Standout Quotes: “Technology can be used for good or bad. And so the internet can be a source of amazing compassion and love. But it has to be deliberately designed that way. It won't happen by accident.” - Glen Moriarty “Certainly there are cultural differences and different pushes and pulls, but humans we're a lot similar. The way we read emotions are universal, so it doesn't matter where you live. The emotional expression is similar. Human societies are pretty similar. Relationships are similar. There's different assumptions about I'm part of more collective society, or I'm part of a more individualistic society, but by and large, people generally struggle with feelings of sadness, feelings of worry, fear, and relationship difficulties.” - Glen Moriarty “Therapists should be seeing people that can't be helped by a volunteer or a family member or a friend. They should be helping people that are in higher levels or more complex levels of distress. And so in the States, part of the challenge is that you can think about it like a pyramid or a triangle. They're at the very top and it's all clogged up there. But if we could take some of the folks that can get help for free or low cost to other folks, then that opens up the channels for more people that really need help to get help by those expert professionals.” - Glen Moriarty Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today, Steve talks with Dr. Kathleen Perley, founder of DemystifAI and faculty and AI advisor to the deans at Rice Business. Dr. Perley explains why leadership matters when implementing AI in your business, and shares how to bridge the gap between tech-savvy CTOs and non-technical folks. Dr. Perley and Steve also discuss the possibilities and boundaries of artificial intelligence.  Key Takeaways: AI has some exciting use cases. Executives should be involved in the implementation of AI. Business will fall behind if they don’t embrace artificial intelligence.  Tune in to hear more about: How Dr. Perley got into the AI field (1:33) The role of the C-suite in AI implementation (8:17) Dr. Perley’s new book about AI (18:57) Standout Quotes: “If you don't have at least a couple sleepless nights where you get a little bit anxious about the unknown in terms of job displacement, falls into the wrong hands—that should be a concern.” - Dr. Kathleen Perley “I think part of the reason why AI implementation is failing today is that leadership issue. They're maybe unsure of this technology, don't have what they feel like is appropriate technical background to navigate it. And so they've completely delegated it, versus leaning in and learning the technology themself.” - Dr. Kathleen Perley “If you have AI skills, and I'm not talking building, but leveraging these AI tools in terms of skills, you're 70% more likely to get hired. Those individuals are garnering about a 56% wage premium right now. All of your A-players, if you're not leaning into AI as an organization, are going to start looking elsewhere because they know that they need those skills and that exposure for their own career development.” - Dr. Kathleen Perley Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

In today’s episode, Steve speaks with Karena Man, whose expertise is connecting organizations with experts in technology as a Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry. Karena highlights the growing awareness of cyber by boards of directors — an awareness brought on by the increase in cyber intrusions. She also emphasizes the importance of storytelling and collaboration, and she and Steve discuss AI and the preparedness of the board. Key Takeaways: Boards are increasingly knowledgeable of cyber and AI.  CISOs must be good storytellers and cultivate relationships with other departments to be able to succeed in their role.  Involve board members in the processes, not just the results. Tune in to hear more about: Cyber and the board (01:27) AI and the board (19:30) How cyber and AI will impact the board in the coming years (24:53) Standout Quotes: “If we go back to what boards are really charged with, they're charged with oversight and governance. They are there to really provide guardrails in many ways, allow the organization to go fast by asking the right questions.” - Karena Man “When I am also assessing and helping my clients hire their next CISO, one of the things I'm looking for is not just someone who's technically deep, but someone who has the empathy, someone who really understands what is it that the business is trying to do.” - Karena Man “Anyone who's used one of the large language models, don't name any of them, I think there isn't a single person I've talked to who hasn't had a model hallucinate. Or give them a questionable answer to a query or to a task. And so there is this understanding that the technology is promising and that we should experiment with it and innovate with it within our enterprise. But there is this worry that it could be used for not so good purposes.” - Karena Man Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

In this week’s episode, Steve sits down with Debra Andrews, president and owner of Marketri. Marketri, a strategic marketing firm. Steve and Debra talk about what goes into creating a marketing plan that the C-suite can get on board with, and Deb shares how she and her team work to balance human knowledge with the speed of artificial intelligence. Debra also explains the role of Marketri’s AI council… Key Takeaways: Using key performance measures to show growth toward a goal is integral to getting the C-suite on board with a marketing plan.  To gain trust for AI both inside and outside the organization, transparency is paramount.  AI will shrink marketing teams and marketers will need broader skillsets. Tune in to hear more about: How Marketri went about incorporating AI into its operations (6:23) Deb’s thoughts on the ethics of AI (10:55) How AI will impact the future of marketing (13:43) Standout Quotes: “When we use AI to do the copywriting, we ask it not to supplement with any extra information, only use the information you're given and through that, AI is a wonderful copywriter. It can learn your voice and tone. You can train it on your particular voice and tone, so we can train it on our client's voice and tone. So it can be very customized to that person and how they like to speak, and words they like to use and how they like to sound. But ethically means we're not using trained data in the large language models to produce our content pieces. We're using human brains, their experience, and we're leveraging the tools as copywriters.” - Deb Andrews “We're not trying to hide that we're using AI and shortcutting the process or delivering something like an AI-produced post. What we share is that we're using it to help them gain competitive advantage, to have the best access to human thinking, our thinking, their thinking as far as their area of subject matter expertise, and then the best of what this technology can do, and it's extremely powerful.” - Deb Andrews “I think the smaller organizations, they're just struggling to keep afloat of their workload right now. I feel like AI's had this paralyzing effect on a lot of mid-size organizations where they know AI's out there and they know it's supposed to have an impact and they're reading about companies reducing head count and not hiring.” - Deb Andrews Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today, Steve sits down with Baroness Beeban Kidron, a member of the House of Lords in the UK and a global authority on online privacy and tech regulation. They discuss the critical importance of privacy on the internet in the age of surveillance capitalism, why we need to reframe how we talk about AI and new technology, and the problems with the UK government’s current AI policy.  Key Takeaways: The internet has changed, making privacy online essential.  Regulating the internet and technology is still possible. The current path the world is on when it comes to AI is highly problematic and should be taken more seriously.  Tune in to hear more about: Why privacy online matters more than ever (1:22) How technology is impacting early childhood development (12:08) Baroness Kidron’s take on the UK’s AI strategy (28:17) Standout Quotes: “[The internet] is deliberately designed to keep your attention. Deliberately designed to make you come back, deliberately designed to know the most, to reveal the most. And in that context, actually, privacy becomes an incredible tool of protection for the user, particularly for children who may not understand the negotiation that they're in.” - Baroness Beeban Kidron “ We have to think about what kind of world we want, what kind of world is good for us, what kind of world benefits most people, and then we build ourselves a pathway to do the most we can in that direction.” - Baroness Beeban Kidron “ it is hugely important to protect the idea of copyright. It is a moral right because it is an expression of your humanity. What you write, what you draw, what you sing is yours. It is you. It is a manifestation of you. So it comes with, and in fact, in human rights law, it is specifically stated that it is your moral right to determine how that is used.” - Baroness Beeban Kidron Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Explore how CISOs can educate the board, build resilience, and invest effectively in security, with Steve Dubin, ISF CEO, and Margaret Heffernan, a Professor of Practice at the University of Bath School of Management.  Mentioned in this episode: ISF Analyst Insight Podcast Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management

In this episode, Steve speaks with Dragos Tudorache, one of the members of the European Parliament who is responsible for writing the EU’s AI Act. Dragos explains the thought process that went into developing the new law and tells Steve what organisations can expect and how they can prepare for its implementation. Mentioned in and related to this episode: ISF Podcast: Ellie Pavlick - Balancing the Risk and Reward of AI ISF Podcast: The Ethical Dilemma of AI & Innovation ISF Podcast: Beyond Buzzwords: AI, ML, and the Future of Cyber ISF Podcast: Mo Gawdat: Rethinking the Paradigm of Artificial and Human Intelligence ISF Analyst Insight Podcast Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today, ISF CEO Steve Durbin speaks with Seán Doyle, Lead for the Centre for Cybersecurity at the World Economic Forum. They discuss the role of public-private partnerships in the current cyber landscape, the importance of running tabletop exercises to promote resilience, and improving cybersecurity legislation and regulation around the world to promote economic interests. Mentioned in this episode: Cybersecurity Technology Efficacy: Is cybersecurity the new 'market for lemons'? Research Report by Joe Hubback ISF Analyst Insight Podcast Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management

ISF CEO Steve Durbin sits down with strategic supply chain risk expert Omera Khan. They talk about the current risk landscape vis a vis supply chain, protecting your supply chain by building collaborative systems, and incentivizing your staff appropriately to ensure they vet suppliers with a security-first mindset. Mentioned in this episode: ISF Analyst Insight Podcast Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management

Today, Steve speaks with Jimmie Lee, a leadership expert with decades of experience as a senior leader at companies like Boeing, Meta, and Microsoft. He explains that one of the most important things a business leader can do in times of crisis, is to keep focus on the big picture and the long term goals. Jimmie and Steve also discuss how to manage a team in a post-covid workplace and building supply chain resilience — and why empathy matters more than ever.  Key Takeaways: Empathy for your team members is more important than ever for a thriving business. Relationship-building must begin before the crisis happens. Geopolitical instability is causing a shift from risk management to resilience. Tune in to hear more about: If empathy can be taught (12:50) How to build trust in a business environment that’s more virtual than ever (15:47) Why many businesses are struggling because of today’s volatile geopolitical landscape (21:33) Standout Quotes: “There's a lot of tools that I would typically lean on or go to, but the number one is honestly just empathetic connection. It is really just connecting with the leaders and help them understand that they're not alone. I think a lot of times as a leader, you get too stuck in the problems that you start trying to solve, that you focus more trying to solve them in the business, and you go deeper instead of staying up at the leadership level and start working on the business itself.” - Jimmie Lee “Now you have trust to work off of. If you didn't have that trust and that mistake happened, it's an uphill climb to get to a point of good with that person now. I don't know that we're equipping our employees, that we're actually giving our teams that visibility, that knowledge, that training. […] Are we as companies, are we as leaders investing in our training budget in that kind of way to target those areas?” - Jimmie Lee “I think the geopolitical landscape is potentially gonna shift the visibility and the approach and the strategy from small, medium- sized businesses and middle market to have more attention on that supply chain because. When it comes to geopolitical instability, when it comes to geo-economic macro and the micro instability, resilience is key. Resilience is the lifeblood. Resilience is your ability to last, to withstand the fluctuations, but if you don't have enough visibility and awareness of all the different components that are impacted, you can't navigate those waters.” - Jimmie Lee Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today’s episode will focus on the challenges of the cyber landscape in the United States, as Steve sits down with Yolanda Williams, who is the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency’s cyber security coordinator in the state of Florida. Steve and Yolanda dive deep into her work communicating cyber in a region where it for many isn’t top-of-mind and how state sovereignty and lack of standardisation between local stakeholders poses unique challenges. We hope that Yolanda’s many examples of successfully working with Floridians and stakeholders across the state will resonate with listeners across the US—and perhaps across the pond, too. Key Takeaways: Cyber leaders must possess the ability to shape their communication based on what the audience is looking for. Organisations are much more open to cyber advice today than they were five years ago.  Look at the language in your contracts! Mistakes can prove costly from both a financial perspective and a cyber perspective. Tune in to hear more about: How cyber connects to physical security (3:25) The challenges of a lack of standardised guidelines or federal regulation (10:23) The importance of keeping local backups and not only use the cloud (18:24) Standout Quotes: “I hear a lot of people say, ‘dumb it down.’ But you don't want to dumb it down. You just want to make sure that you're tailoring it specifically. You may have technical folks who are looking for, okay, what was the ransomware? Who did it? Who deployed it? How was it deployed? What was the payload? All those types of things. And they want to get into the deep dive of it. A lot of individuals don't. I'll speak to healthcare individuals and they're more looking at ‘I'm not a target. I'm a small doctor's office. I'm not a target.’ And one of the things we try to get across to everyone is: you are definitely a target. If you have a US IP address, you are a target.” - Yolanda Williams “There are federal guidelines for federal agencies. However, we respect our states and their sovereignty, and one of the things I found in Florida definitely was a lack of collaboration. Even from the city to the county, there's nothing structured across the board.” - Yolanda Williams “One of the steps that I recommend across the board for anyone that I'm talking to is looking at the language in your contracts, making sure that language is covering, not just what you're purchasing.[…] So making sure that you're looking at that contract language and have somebody that's looking at it that understands the lexicon, understands what is required. You can't just hire somebody off the street and say, ‘Oh yeah, write this contract,’ and they don't know what should be in the contract.” - Yolanda Williams Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Financial due diligence is common practice when companies merge or one business acquires another. Cyber security due diligence, however, is not quite as common. Yet, in a world where the threat landscape changes by the day and risk is growing increasingly complex, solid cyber security practices are more important than ever.  Today, Steve and Tavia dig into this very topic, and, more specifically, what role cyber security has in a merger or an acquisition. How is a cyber security review done? Why are they important? How do we balance speed with thoroughness? How do we interpret the results? There’s a lot to dig into here.  Key Takeaways: Cyber due diligence is paramount in a corporate acquisition or merger. Risks of not doing cyber due diligence include both financial and reputational. Cyber due diligence is a team game. Tune in to hear more about: Who should be responsible for conducting the cyber review (4:34) How organizations can build cyber into their due diligence process (14:05) Examples of where insufficient cyber due diligence proved costly (19:05) Standout Quotes: “You can't play a team sport without a team. And for me, M&A is a team game. You can't go it alone. I think it would be a mistake for somebody to think that they could do this kind of work solo. Because as we've seen with cyber maturing, it now touches so many different parts of the organization. You do need to be involved.” - Steve Durbin “I think people are getting it. What I'm seeing now is people get it, but they don't know how to do it. That's where the cyber professional really now has to step up.” - Steve Durbin “Pre-deal, I think it is about being focused. It's about identifying, prioritizing the high risk areas that are out there that you want to look into. It's about doing things like making sure that the governance is there. It's about scanning for some of the known vulnerabilities. If you are in one particular market sector and you're buying a company in another because of expansion growth, you're going to need to be covering off a whole range of different things that perhaps might be unusual for you because you haven't been having to look into those areas.” - Steve Durbin Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter  From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today, Steve speaks with Lauren Farina, psychotherapist and founder of Invited Psychotherapy & Coaching. Lauren and Steve discuss how wellness is becoming a bigger part of the workplace and how we can stay mentally healthy during times of stress and pressure. Also an expert on “high-performance individuals,” Lauren shares what it means to be high-performing and why rest can be just as productive as work. Key Takeaways: Being a high-performer isn’t just about work.  Rest is productive Building psychological safety within an organization is the most important contributor to elite performance.  Tune in to hear more about: What the “High Performer Archetype” is (6:15) The risks of not taking time to rest (11:22) How leaders can improve the performance of their teams (19:33) Standout Quotes: “ As many of us know, acute stress is quite good for us. But in the long term, the chronic unrelenting demands that I think remote working arrangements have placed on the workforce, really can erode our performance because our cognitive functioning is not at its peak when we're chronically stressed, our memory, our learning, our judgment, our decision making is compromised.” - Lauren Farina “ There was a five -year study at Google called the Aristotle Project, and the Aristotle project found that psychological safety is the single most important factor when it comes to the elite performance of individuals and groups.“ - Lauren Farina “ It is my hope that there will be an increased focus on intersectionality of performance and wellbeing and increased support of individuals and groups in cultivating wellbeing. Not only for the sake of wellbeing, but also for the sake of peak performance.” - Lauren Farina Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today, Steve Durbin and ISF Podcast Producer Tavia Gilbert are in conversation exploring the role of cybersecurity, governance and leadership in an age defined by rapid technological transformation. Artificial intelligence is now woven into daily business operations, risk models, customer engagement, and more. And while its benefits are significant, its risks are expanding just as quickly. Key Takeaways: It’s becoming increasingly apparent for leaders that cyber impacts every part of the business. AI will not replace humans in the workplace, but rather redefine what work humans do. If you as a business leader don't have clarity about what your values and ethics are by now, you better get started. Tune in to hear more about: What happens if businesses don’t implement a robust framework for ethical AI use (8:51) The role of the board when implementing AI into business operations (19:49)    How to lead through change (24:20) Standout Quotes: “When cyber is involved early, it really can become a value enabler. It helps the business make smarter bets, helps it to avoid blind spots and build that sort of trust that we're looking for into everything that it does.” - Steve Durbin “AI, it does introduce huge amounts of potential, but it also introduces a new layer of risk that is more complicated, dynamic and probably difficult to manage than many people actually think or are prepared for. And one of the biggest challenges is that AI doesn't just create new vulnerabilities, it changes the nature of the threat landscape completely.” - Steve Durbin “AI is not some kind of future technology. It's been around for a very long time. Certainly in cyber terms anyway, at least 10 years, if not more. It's a lifetime in cyber, so it's not a future technology, it's here. It's shaping the way that we work, that we think, and indeed that we compete. So the question isn't whether we should engage with it, it's how do we do so responsibly and effectively. And the organizations that retain control are those that lead with clarity.” - Steve Durbin Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Joining the podcast today is Dr. Shonna Waters, a leading researcher on the workplace of today and the future, and the Co-Founder and CEO of Fractional Insights, an organizational psychology research firm. Steve and Dr. Waters discuss the rapid transformation of the workplace, brought on by new technologies, geopolitical uncertainty, and shifting organizational priorities. They also speak about how to stay grounded when the ground around us is shaking, how security professionals can manage stress and negativity brought upon by constantly searching for threats, and how a growth mindset can help build resilience. Key Takeaways: The professional environment is changing faster than we are.  How bridging the language gap between security and sales is challenging, but key for business success. A growth mindset can build resilience.  Tune in to hear more about: What people look for in the workplace (1:56) How to manage stress at work (18:22) How a growth mindset can help us become more resilient (21:42) Standout Quotes: “There's a lot going on out there, and I think that there's this general sentiment that the ground is moving under our feet. We all are feeling overstimulated and ungrounded, I think, generally speaking, and it's a really hard place to navigate as an employee. It's also a really hard place to lead from.” - Dr. Shonna Waters “No matter what you're selling or producing, there is a human at the beginning of it and at the end of it, at a minimum, right? It's the concept, the leadership of it, the orchestration, no matter how much you minimize humans in the process. There's human ingenuity at the top of that chain. And then at the bottom of it, you have your customers.” - Dr. Shonna Waters “There are conscious choices that you can make to lean more into that idea that you can grow and practice. And I think for any of us, one way to really encourage ourselves around that is to think back to other things that you've done that got easier over time or you were able to improve your skills.” - Dr. Shonna Waters Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter  From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Steve Durbin engages in a compelling conversation with Faisal Hoque, a world-renowned technologist and best-selling author including his recently released ‘Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI’. Faisal shares his thoughts on how business leaders can preserve human values in the in the era of AI, how AI and humans can function together, and the threats posed by ceding control of our humanity to AI. Find out why he feels the government needs to provide legislative structures to protect citizens. Key Takeaways: 1. The challenge for business leaders in preserving human values amidst the rise of AI 2. How AI is gradually diminishing human emotion in daily life 3. The risks involved in relinquishing human control to AI Tune in to hear more about: 1. Preserving human values (1:14) 2. How government policies can influence society and the development of AI (6:15) 3. Harnessing the potential of AI whilst mitigating the risk (18:11) Standout quotes: 1. "The government needs to provide the legislative structures where citizens are protected. Things like intellectual property, privacy, and free market support." - Faisal Hoque 2. "The digital divide concerns me greatly. Not just with regard to AI, but with everything that we are doing from a technology standpoint." - Faisal Hoque 3. "Leaders' job is to create that psychological safety so that we can be productive and feel that we can actually contribute and fulfill our purpose, whatever that purpose is." - Faisal Hoque 4. "AI is going to be like electricity or internet. It is going to be part and parcel of everything and anything we do." - Faisal Hoque Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter  From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

In today's episode, Steve speaks with Christopher Sestito (also known as Tito), chairman of the board, CEO, and co-founder of HiddenLayer, a cyber security startup dedicated to preventing adversarial machine learning attacks. Tito shares his perspective on where the business world is currently when it comes to AI and cybersecurity. He also gives his thoughts on the state of AI regulation and what business leaders should do to protect their organizations in the age of AI.  Key Takeaways: AI is changing the cybersecurity game Tech regulation is becoming more fragmented  Securing AI is really no different from securing other parts of the business Tune in to hear more about: Why Christopher Sestito started HiddenLayer (1:28) Why AI will play an increasingly important role in organizational cyber defense (5:47)  What business leaders should think about as they approach cyber in the age of AI (20:18) Standout Quotes: “I think the challenge at the AI level is how fast we've moved. There's been so many advancements that if you don't have a dedicated organization looking at this, it's really just moving too quickly to ultimately have things at a sort of hardening level at the model layer itself.” - Christopher Sestito “I think I'm a bit of a realist when it comes to artificial intelligence coming in. I think we are viewing a very fundamental shift in ultimately what's gonna affect workforces and skill sets required. I think that if I was entering the workforce right now, I'd be focusing heavily on the effects of artificial intelligence, how I can leverage artificial intelligence.” - Christopher Sestito “Every organization really needs to pay attention to their agentic strategy right now. I think if you're engaged with other enterprise organizations, as all are, everyone's building agents right now, and those agents have a lot of autonomy in order to be able to conduct transactions, in order to be able to deal with data, to be able to interact, organization or organization. And I think every CISO is gonna need to be able to really articulate what they want to be allowed here and not because we're removing humans in the loop with these agents, we're allowing them to have quite a bit of agency in order to conduct these transactions at an incredible rate.” - Christopher Sestito Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter  From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

Today, Steve talks about ISF's flagship foresight report "Threat Horizon 2027: Grasping for Control." In a world defined by disruption and acceleration, this report offers not just a forecast of cyber threats, but a blueprint for resilience, and Steve walks listeners through the key themes. Key Takeaways: 1 Flexibility will be key in an increasingly volatile world. 2 Cyber must be considered in every aspect of an organization’s operations. 3 Control is possible, even if it sometimes doesn’t feel like it. Tune in to hear more about: 1 Why identity is becoming more and more important for businesses (2:24) 2 How senior leaders can prepare for the future (17:06) 3 Why control is still possible (21:42) Standout Quotes: 1 “Identity is really the cornerstone of everything that we do in the digital world, and it's fast becoming one of the most critical areas for business leaders to understand and take seriously.” - Steve Durbin 2 “Leaders need to understand the economic impact of cyber risk. What are the potential costs of disruption? How would a breach affect reputation, revenue, operations? It's the reputational bit, for instance, in my case, that worries me the most. And once you start thinking in those terms. You can make many more business-aligned, informed decisions about what you are going to do because you stop looking at the cost of doing something and instead you flip it and look at the implications and associated costs of not doing it.” - Steve Durbin 3 “I think that business leaders as a group, tend to be pretty resilient individuals. I've worked a lot with entrepreneurs, and they are probably some of the most resilient that I've ever come across because they have to be. And one of the things that they always believe in, I've found, is that irrespective of what's going on around you, control is still possible. But in order to have that level of control, it takes foresight, it takes focus, and I think above all it takes flexibility and, I would say, courage.” - Steve Durbin Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

In today’s episode, Steve speaks with Tavia about how AI and other emerging technology are reshaping society, and how we as humans should react to it.  Key Takeaways: AI and other emerging tech can help society, but guardrails are needed.  The world is becoming more fragmented when it comes to how it views AI and tech.  With AI and new technology, we have to be increasingly cautious in our interactions in cyberspace.  Tune in to hear more about: Why it’s unlikely there will be international rules around AI (4:32) How technology is changing how we interact – and what that means (7:12) What people 50 years from now might say about how we’re currently handling emerging tech (22:28) Standout Quotes: “We need to be putting in place guardrails, particularly when it comes to AI, around how it's going to be used, because we are playing with a technology, the power of which we don't fully understand yet.” - Steve Durbin “I think it is about how we get the balance right. I think that it isn't about shutting down some of the technological advances that we're seeing, it is about just being a little bit more realistic about their fallibility and trying to get equilibrium back between people and tools.” - Steve Durbin “I suspect that what they will do is take a look back and go, why on earth did they do that? Why on earth didn't somebody see that there was a better way? Because that's with the benefit of hindsight, isn't it? And we've got 20-20 vision when it comes to hindsight. And so I think that we are in the here and now and we need to find a way of muddling through. And I think that everybody has a responsibility to do that.” - Steve Durbin Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter From the Information Security Forum, the leading authority on cyber, information security, and risk management.

In this bonus episode, Steve speaks with Dr. Ellie Pavlick, a professor of computer science at Brown University. Dr. Pavlick’s research focuses on computational models of semantics and pragmatics which emulate human inferences in artificial intelligence. Steve and Ellie discuss generative AI, developing a pipeline of talent to work with it, and perspectives on its developing uses for organisations. Related Resources from ISF: ISF Podcast: The AI-Quantum Revolution: Today, tomorrow and the future ISF Podcast: Steve Durbin & Nicholas Witchell - The Case for Social Responsibility in AI ISF Podcast: Boosting Business Success: Unleashing the potential of human and AI collaboration Navigating Boardroom Concerns: Top 9 Cybersecurity Risks and Challenges Mentioned in this episode: ISF Analyst Insight Podcast Read the transcript of this episode Subscribe to the ISF Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts Connect with us on LinkedIn and Twitter