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Jim Stengel, former CMO of the largest marketer in the world (Procter & Gamble), and now small company entrepreneur sits down for intimate conversations with the most dynamic CMOs from all over the industry. This is not your typical marketing podcast, this is a unique look at the thought process and motivation of the CMO. Jim, who put purpose on the map gets in depth with each guest to reveal more about this pivotal role every brand seeks to fill. Through personal and revealing discussions Jim and his guests paint a picture of this demanding position that very few understand, yet affects the entire consumer experience.

The CMO Podcast is sponsored by Deloitte.


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Long before our guest this week became the CMO of Levi’s, he was rocking the brand as a kid, breakdancing with his brother in shell-toe Adidas and Levi’s denim. Fast forward a few decades, and he’s now leading one of the most admired brands in the world.This week Jim welcomes Kenny Mitchell, SVP and Chief Marketing Officer of the Levi’s brand at Levi Strauss & Co. The legacy brand was founded in 1853 by Bavarian immigrant Levi Strauss during the California Gold Rush. Originally designed as durable workwear for laborers, now 173 years later, it is the market leader in denim apparel, generating more than $6 billion in annual revenue.Kenny joined Levi’s in 2023 after serving as CMO of Snap Inc., bringing with him a track record of driving growth and cultural relevance. Since joining, he’s been focused on creating “modern-day moments” for the brand, connecting Levi’s legacy to today’s culture, from high-impact partnerships to the brand’s return to the Super Bowl with its “Behind Every Original” campaign. Previously, he has held senior marketing roles at McDonald’s U.S., Gatorade, and NASCAR. Tune in for a conversation about growth, culture, and leadership, and what it really takes to move a brand, and an organization, forward.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
If the role of a CMO is to make a brand interesting, why does so much marketing today feel anything but?This week Jim sits down with Nick Law, Creative Strategy & Experience Lead of Accenture Song, the $20 billion creative services division of Accenture, to explore what’s gone wrong in modern marketing, and what leaders need to do to fix it. In 2019,  Accenture Song (then called Accenture Interactive) purchased the highly awarded and fast-growing creative agency droga 5. Teaser alert: its founder, David Droga, is a big reason Nick is now at Accenture Song. Nick’s journey is anything but traditional. He began his career in trade school in Randwick, Australia, before rising through the creative ranks, where he spent 17+ years at R/GA during its most innovative era, a stint at Apple as VP of Marketing Integration, and now helping shape one of the most expansive creative organizations in the world. Today, at Accenture Song, he works across marketing, design, commerce, and customer experience, bringing together systems and storytelling at scale.Tune in for a conversation about creativity, leadership, and the evolving role of marketing in an increasingly complex world, and what it really takes to build brands that people care about.—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/ccs Promo Code for $150 off ticket prices: CMOPODCCS26—This week's episode is brought to you by IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
If you think the biggest growth opportunity in marketing is Gen Z, Millennials, or Gen Alpha, this episode may change your mind. We kick off a special monthly series focused on how marketers approach different generations, starting with Gen X and Baby Boomers.To explore the 50+ audience, Jim welcomes Brent Rivard, CEO and co-founder of Geezer Creative, an agency built around one bold premise: the marketing industry has been ignoring consumers who represent an $8 trillion opportunity.Gen X and Boomers control roughly 70% of disposable income in the U.S., yet most brands remain obsessively focused on youth. Gen X alone outspends Gen Z by multiples in categories like alcohol, while affluent 50+ consumers are driving massive growth in travel, wellness, longevity, and lifestyle spending.Brent studied at the Ivey Business School in Ontario and went on to spend two decades at top agencies, including BBDO, Anomaly, Doner, and Lowe Roche. After a stint as a CMO, he founded Geezer Creative in 2024 to help brands reposition themselves for what he believes is the most overlooked and fastest-growing audience in North America.Tune in for a conversation with an advocate fighting for smarter audience choices in advertising.—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/ccs  Promo Code for $150 off ticket prices: CMOPODCCS26—This week's episode is brought to you by IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
More and more CMOs are ascending to the CEO role. Starbucks, Hinge, Revlon, Avon, and Brinker International are all companies that have elevated former CMOs to CEO.Joining Jim this week is a guest who joins that group. Diana Haussling is the Chief Executive Officer of hello, the bold, happy, design-forward oral care brand. Founded in 2012 by Craig Dubitsky with the goal of being a “friendly” alternative in the market, hello was acquired by Colgate in early 2020 for a reported $351 million. Today, hello products are found in over 55,000 retail stores across the U.S.Before stepping into the CEO role, Diana served for four years as Chief Marketing Officer for North America at Colgate, where she led Marketing, Digital Commerce, and Direct-to-Consumer. Her career also includes roles at three other Fortune 500 companies: Campbell’s, General Mills, and The Hershey Company.Tune in for a conversation with a leader who speaks candidly about insecurity, ambition, and why learning to talk about your strengths isn’t bragging, but necessary.—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/ccs Promo Code for $150 off ticket prices: CMOPODCCS26—This week's episode is brought to you by IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
What does it take to build a brand that cuts through the noise in a world where most people are trying to ignore you?Jim’s guest this week is Kofi Amoo-Gottfried, Chief Marketing Officer at DoorDash, who has spent the last seven years helping transform the company from a restaurant delivery app into a multi-category commerce platform with over $14 billion in revenue and more than 3.2 billion orders in 2025. Today, DoorDash is one of the most recognizable brands in tech, with ambitions to become a “24/7 life assistant” for its customers.Kofi joined DoorDash in 2019 as VP of Marketing before being promoted to the company’s first Chief Marketing Officer in 2022. In this role, he oversees marketing across consumers, merchants, and Dashers. Born in Ghana, Kofi came to the U.S. for college in Minnesota, where, as he says, he stumbled into marketing. He began his career at Leo Burnett, then worked at Wieden+Kennedy and Publicis, before moving to the brand side with Bacardi and Facebook.After the recording, Kofi announced that he will be stepping down from his role at DoorDash in May, marking the end of an impactful chapter helping shape one of the most recognizable brands in tech and commerce.Tune in for a conversation on risk, leadership, and building work that actually gets noticed.—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/newfrontsPromo Code for free access: CMOPODNEW26*Note: promo code is exclusive for brand and agency, brand marketers and media buyers. IAB reserves the right to cancel any registrations that don’t meet this criterion. —This week's episode is brought to you by IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
If culture moves at the speed of TikTok, then today’s CMO has to move just as fast. This week, Jim is joined by Sofia Hernandez, Global Head of Business Marketing and Commercial Partnerships at TikTok. Since launching in the U.S. in 2018, TikTok has reshaped culture, content, and marketing. And its mission, to inspire creativity and bring joy, has fueled extraordinary growth, even as the company has navigated controversy and major shifts, including the recent acquisition of TikTok U.S. by a consortium of investors including Oracle, Silver Lake, and MGX. The platform now reaches more than one billion users globally and has grown into a multi-billion-dollar advertising business, generating an estimated $33 billion in ad revenue in 2025.Sofia has spent the past six years helping build TikTok’s business during one of the most dynamic growth periods in tech. In her role, she helps brands around the world show up effectively on one of the most culturally influential platforms in the world. Before TikTok, Sofia served as Chief Client Officer at the consumer insights platform Suzy and began her career in advertising at Publicis, later spending five years at BBDO. An activist at her core, Sofia also speaks openly about representation in tech, where Latinas hold roughly 1% of executive roles, and she is deeply committed to fostering inclusion across the industry.Tune in for a conversation with a leader who believes today's CMOs must evolve into enterprise leaders who connect culture, creativity, and business results.—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/newfrontsPromo Code for free access: CMOPODNEW26*Note: promo code is exclusive for brand and agency, brand marketers and media buyers. IAB reserves the right to cancel any registrations that don’t meet this criterion. —This week's episode is brought to you by IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
To kick off Women’s History Month, Jim welcomes Lara Balazs, the Chief Marketing Officer and EVP of Global Marketing at Adobe. A company at the center of creativity, transformation and technology. Founded in 1982, Adobe is a software company that is famous for its creativity, innovation, and strong employee and customer-centric culture. Their purpose is to change the world through personalized digital experiences, and their offerings include the Creative Cloud, Document Cloud, Experience Cloud, and Adobe Express.Lara is an experienced CMO. Before Adobe, Lara was the CMO at Intuit for six years, and oversaw a strong run, tripling revenue during her tenure. Over the course of her career, Lara has worked at Visa,  Nike, Amazon, and Gap. At Adobe, Lara is leading the charge to help shape the iconic company into its next era of growth. Just one year into the role, she’s already refreshed the company’s mission to “empower everyone to create” and is leading one of the most ambitious AI-enabled marketing transformations in the industry.Tune in for a conversation with a leader who believes we are entering the golden age of creativity…—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/ccs Promo Code for $150 off ticket prices: CMOPODCCS26—This week's episode is brought to you by IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
What does it take to revitalize a 150-year-old company? Jim’s guest this week, Conny Kalcher, has done it twice. First at LEGO during its historic turnaround, and now at Zurich Insurance as their Group Chief Customer Officer, where she’s proving that empathy is not a soft skill but a strategic advantage. Conny spent 33 years at LEGO, where she helped navigate one of the most dramatic brand turnarounds in modern business history. Then in 2019, she joined Zurich Insurance, a company with over 200-country reach and a $100 billion market capitalization, to lead global customer loyalty and advocacy at a time when trust and humanity matter more than ever. And since joining, Conny has helped drive millions of new customers, a 35% increase in brand value, and measurable improvements in satisfaction and retention.This is a conversation about renewing legacy brands, leading cultural transformation, and proving that empathy is not just good for people, it’s good for business.—Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/newfrontsPromo Code for free access: CMOPODNEW26*Note: promo code is exclusive for brand and agency, brand marketers and media buyers. IAB reserves the right to cancel any registrations that don’t meet this criterion. —This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte and IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This week we return with one of our most anticipated episodes of the year…the 8th annual Super Bowl Advertiser Roundtable. As is tradition, Jim is joined by Gary Vaynerchuk to welcome a collection of marketing leaders behind this year’s most talked-about Super Bowl campaigns. Our Featured Guests are…Ahmed “Meddy” Iqbal, the Chief Marketing Officer of the Cadillac F1 TeamGail Horwood, the Chief Marketing Officer & Chief Experience Officer of NovartisLuis Garcia, the Chief Marketing Officer of Naterra International (Tree Hut)Steven Saenen, the President of Savory Brands & Crackers Portfolio for Mondelez (Ritz Crackers)Soyoung Kang, President of eosRecorded live on the Monday after the game, in partnership with VaynerMedia’s Marketing for the Now, this conversation goes beyond the ads to explore how today’s CMOs think about boldness, experiential strategy, culture, and what it really takes to turn Super Bowl attention into long-term brand impact.—This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We’re living through one of the biggest shifts in the internet since it began: a move from building content for people to building content for machines, on behalf of people. On this week’s episode, Jim Stengel is joined by James Cadwallader, Co-Founder and CEO of Profound, and Daniel Shin Un Kang, Head of Organic and Agentic Search at Expedia, for a thoughtful, practical conversation about AI search, answer engines, and what this shift means for the future of marketing.James founded Profound in 2024, raising $60 million and earning recognition from Redpoint Ventures as one of the most promising private AI companies shaping applied artificial intelligence. Today, Profound works with brands like US Bank, Chime, Expedia, and DocuSign to help them navigate the transition from traditional search to a world of answer engines, agents, and AI-led experiences.After building companies and investing in high-growth technology businesses, Daniel moved from the venture world into operating at global scale. He now leads Organic and Agentic Search at Expedia, where he’s helping redefine how one of the world’s largest travel platforms shows up in AI-powered search and discovery.Together, James and Daniel unpack how brands actually appear inside AI systems like ChatGPT and Gemini, why traditional SEO metrics no longer tell the whole story, and how CMOs should rethink visibility, content, and measurement in an AI-driven world.This episode offers a rare look at AI search from both sides of the table: the platform builder shaping the category and the operator putting it to work inside a performance-driven global brand. If you’re a CMO wondering what to focus on now, this conversation is a strong place to start.—This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In the first month of 2026, many leaders are recommitting to being more consumer-centric and more human — inside their organizations and in the market. This episode of The CMO Podcast is designed to help you do exactly that.Jim Stengel hosts a roundtable discussion around the book The Consumer Insights Revolution: Transforming Market Research for Competitive Advantage, which chronicles PepsiCo’s multi-year transformation of its insights and analytics function.Joined by Steve Phillips (Zappi), Nataly Kelly (Zappi CMO), Katherine Melchior Ray (brand leader at Nike, Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Hyatt, and more), and Stephan Gans (Chief Consumer Insights & Analytics Officer, PepsiCo), this conversation explores how organizations move from slow, fragmented research to connected learning systems that drive faster, smarter decisions.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/alm Promo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---The CMO Podcast is a vYve Production.This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
With the NFL season in full swing and the Super Bowl just weeks away, Jim sits down with Tim Ellis, Chief Marketing Officer of the National Football League, for a timely conversation about leading one of the most powerful brands in the world. Recorded live at the ANA Masters of Marketing in Orlando, this episode explores how the NFL continues to evolve beyond the game itself into a cultural force that brings people together. Since joining the league in 2018, Tim has helped reshape how the NFL shows up — making it more human, more inclusive, and more connected to fans across generations and communities.Tune in for a conversation around creativity, courage, and what it takes to steward a brand that means so much to so many.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/almPromo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---The CMO Podcast is a vYve Production.This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
The auto industry is changing faster than ever, yet cars remain deeply personal, symbols of freedom, connection, and possibility. Few companies embody that spirit like General Motors, a brand that has shaped culture for more than a century and is now leading the charge toward an electric and connected future.Jim’s guest this week is Norm de Greve, Chief Growth Officer of General Motors. GM is, of course, home to iconic brands like Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac. It is a $77 billion revenue powerhouse driving innovation across combustion, electric, and autonomous vehicles.Norm brings a rare combination of creativity, purpose, and business discipline to one of the world’s most iconic companies. Before joining GM in 2023, he spent nearly a decade as CMO of CVS Health, helping transform the company into a purpose-driven healthcare leader.So buckle up and tune in for a conversation with a marketing leader who believes in leading with high expectations and kindness.Captured live at the ANA Masters of Marketing, in partnership with TransUnion.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/almPromo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
At CES 2026, the conversation around AI often swings between hype and fear — but for marketers the real question is far more grounded: How do you scale intelligence, creativity, and performance without losing the human connection that brands are built on?In this bonus episode of The CMO Podcast, recorded live on the C Space stage at CES, Jim sits down with Yannick Bolloré, Chairman and CEO of Havas — one of the world’s largest global communications groups — to explore exactly that.Yannick and Jim explore how Havas is navigating one of the biggest transformations our industry has ever faced: embedding AI deeply into the organization while keeping human creativity, judgment, and empathy at the center. Plus, Yannick also shares new capabilities Havas introduced at CES, including its global large language model portal, AVA — a secure enterprise AI solution designed to reinforce human-led creativity and decision-making while connecting advanced AI models across the Havas network. Read the full Havas press release on AVA and their human‑led AI vision at CES 2026And for an inside look at the keynote from the C Space stage, including thoughts on the convergence of AI and human creativity, check out the video here: Watch the Havas keynote on AI and creativity from CES 2026This is also a first for our podcast — bringing you right into the heart of CES, as we look toward an innovation-rich year ahead.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
When you think about the technology that connects our world—the phones in our hands, the cars we drive, the networks powering everything around us—there’s a good chance Qualcomm is behind it.Jim's guest this week is Don McGuire, Global Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Communications Officer of Qualcomm. Since becoming CMO in 2021, Don has helped transform Qualcomm’s narrative, elevating the company from “the tech behind the tech” into one of the most respected innovation brands in the world, while turning Snapdragon into a globally recognized consumer brand.Before Qualcomm, Don spent 25 years shaping the wireless ecosystem at companies like AT&T Wireless, Intel, Kyocera, Leap Wireless, and Amp’d Mobile—giving him a rare, end-to-end perspective on how technology, brands, and markets evolve together.For nearly 40 years, Qualcomm has been the engine driving wireless innovation, from the earliest days of mobile to today’s breakthroughs in 5G, AI, automotive, and beyond. It’s one of those rare companies whose technology quietly powers modern life—and the numbers tell the story: roughly $40 billion in annual revenue and a market cap of about $180 billion.Recorded live at the ANA Masters of Marketing in Orlando and powered by TransUnion, this conversation explores what it truly means to takes to build a brand that stands for innovation.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/almPromo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Some leaders talk about the power of creativity, and a select few leaders build a career proving it. Jim's guest this week is one of those. Andrew Robertson is the long-time leader of BBDO Worldwide, one of the most awarded and effective creative advertising  networks in the world. He served as President and CEO from 2004 to 2024 before stepping into his current role as Chairman. During his tenure, BBDO was named Network of the Year at Cannes Lions a record seven times and was crowned Network of the Decade in 2020.Today, as Chairman of BBDO Worldwide and Chairman Emeritus of the Ad Council, Andrew is focused on mentoring the next generation of creative leaders and helping brands harness creativity for real business growth. In 2022, Andrew was inducted into the American Advertising Federation Hall of Fame. In 2025, he added a new chapter to his legacy as a bestselling author with his book “The Creative Shift: How to Power Up Your Organization by Making Space for New Ideas.”So tune in for a conversation with a leader who believes that creativity is not an occasional flash of inspiration but a way of operating inside any organization.  And from the entire team at the show, we wish you all a very Happy New Year!---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/almPromo Code for $500 of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Very few brands have reinvented themselves as successfully, or as culturally, as Coach. On this week's episode, Jim sits down with Joon Silverstein, Chief Marketing Officer of Coach, to unpack the bold transformation behind one of fashion’s most compelling modern growth stories. Coach is part of Tapestry, Inc., the New York–based global house of iconic accessory and lifestyle brands that also includes Kate Spade. This past fiscal year, Tapestry achieved a record $7 billion in revenue, driven largely by double-digit growth at Coach — a powerful signal of the brand’s renewed momentum and relevance.Joon’s impact at Coach spans more than a decade. She joined the brand in 2014 as SVP of Global Customer Experience, went on to lead digital, creative, sustainability, and North America marketing, and ultimately founded Coachtopia: Coach’s groundbreaking circular sub-brand built with and for Gen Z. As we close out the year and head into the holiday season, this conversation feels especially timely. It’s about courage, confidence, creativity, and what it really means to build brands — and careers — that stand for something meaningful.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at https://www.iab.com/Promo Code for $500 off ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Few brands define connection quite like AT&T—not just through technology, but through trust. And trust is not a word historically associated with telecom companies.Jim’s guest this week is at the center of AT&T’s transformation: Kellyn Smith Kenny, the company’s first-ever Chief Marketing & Growth Officer. Since 2020, Kellyn has helped usher in what she calls the “Accountability Era,” part of an ambitious, multi-year reinvention backed by more than $145 billion invested in reliability, transparency, and customer trust.With revenues topping $120 billion and a customer base of more than 100 million consumers, AT&T is a brand that touches nearly every American life. Under Kellyn’s leadership, the company has become known for both its marketing excellence and its humanity—from launching the AT&T Guarantee, to pioneering a pragmatic approach to AI, to building meaningful partnerships with the likes of Formula 1 and Hello Sunshine.Tune in as Jim explores Kellyn’s unique leadership journey—from Division I athlete to C-suite change agent—and how she’s redefining what it means to lead a modern brand.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at https://www.iab.com/events/annual-leadership-meeting-2026/?utm_source=ad&utm_medium=The+CMO+Podcast) Promo Code for $500 off ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Audio has a magic all its own. The power to connect deeply, inspire emotion, and build lasting trust. In this week's episode, Jim Stengel sits down with Jenny Nelson, Chief Marketing Officer of Audacy, one of the nation’s leading multi-platform audio content and entertainment companies. Founded in 1968 (then known as Entercom Communications Corporation) and rebranded as Audacy, Inc. in 2021, the company grew from a traditional radio broadcaster into one of the U.S.’s leading multi-platform audio content and entertainment companies.With over two decades in the industry, Jenny has become an authority on how sound drives emotion, performance, and brand growth. From her early days at BBDO to her pivotal role guiding Audacy’s transformation from a traditional broadcaster to a digital-first audio powerhouse, Jenny shares invaluable lessons on brand storytelling, creativity, and the future of audio marketing.Recorded live at the ANA Masters of Marketing in Orlando and powered by TransUnion, this conversation explores what it truly means to create, and harness, the magic of sound.---Learn more, request a free pass, and register at iab.com/alm (utm: https://www.iab.com/events/annual-leadership-meeting-2026/?utm_source=ad&utm_medium=The+CMO+Podcast) Promo Code for $500 off of ticket prices: ALMCMOPOD26---This week's episode is brought to you by Deloitte, TransUnion and the IAB.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
From tennis rackets to Beyoncé, Microsoft to Apple…brand legends David Aaker and Marcus Collins have seen it all, and they’re here to close out our series with a masterclass on brand-led leadership.In the final episode of this season of The Brand Builder’s Playbook, hosts Jim Stengel and Ryan Barker reflect on the journey through our previous seven episodes before welcoming two of the biggest voices in marketing: David Aaker, often called the “Father of Modern Branding,” and Marcus Collins, award-winning marketer, author, and cultural expert. Together they dig into what it takes to get true buy-in for brand inside organizations, the traps of short-termism, and why culture, conviction, and clear differentiation are the ultimate energizers for growthFrom the evolution of brand equity to the five B’s framework, from the lessons of Steve Jobs to the rise of cultural resonance, this finale ties the whole playbook together, offering both inspiration and practical tools for brand builders at every level.Closing thought: great brands don’t just sell, they lead. And the smartest leaders put brand at the center of every decision.th David Aaker and Marcus Collins—If you’ve enjoyed this series, please share it with your team, your friends, or anyone passionate about building brands. Join in the conversation below…tell us what you’ve learned and what you’d love to hear in Season 2!—Download this week’s worksheet: https://bit.ly/4qDgxKGRead about upcoming episode topics and guests here: https://bera.ai/podcast/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Amin Kh

great and interesting episode

Nov 2nd
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Andrew Ben Richard

love it

Aug 27th
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Simcha Elbaz Kackley

Love your podcast, Jim!! First brand to have an impact and closing with speed round is excellent.

Aug 23rd
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