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Author: Andrew Bisharat & Chris Kalous
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Chris Kalous (The Enormocast) and Andrew Bisharat (Evening Sends) bring decades of climbing experience to the mic, talking with the most interesting voices in the sport. From bouldering to big walls, comps to alpinism—no discipline is off-limits and no dogma goes unchallenged. You might not always agree, but you’ll probably laugh about it later.
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Steph Abegg is a climber, mathematician, and now full-time van-lifer who has been meticulously recording trip reports for the past 20 years. She’s working on a new book called Seventy Select, featuring seventy of her favorite multipitch rock climbs from across western North America.
But first, your hosts meet up to debrief about climbing hell.
And our final bit delivers the poetry of Victor McConnell.
Show Notes
Follow Steph Abegg: https://www.instagram.com/stephabegg_com/
Steph Abegg’s website: www.StephAbegg.com
The full horseshoe theory: https://www.thestruggleclimbingshow.com/to-hell-and-back-how-i-survived-24-hours-of-climbing-ft-chris-kalous-and-annette-guo/
Victor McConnell site: https://www.victormcconnellauthor.com
Victor McConnell IG: https://www.instagram.com/victormcconnell
If You Can Hear This, by Victor McConnell https://bottlecap.press/products/ifyovm
Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast
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Earlier this year, Will Hodgson and Vincent Landry repeated the Slovak Direct (AI6 M8, 2,700m) on Denali — 38 hours on route, every pitch freed on what Vincent calls some of the best granite he’s ever touched.
We talk about the climb itself, and about Balin Miller, the last person to climb the route before them, whose memory shadowed every pitch of their ascent. We also get into what draws them to alpine climbing in the first place: the belief that above everything else, it should be fun.
This special bonus episode first appeared on our Patreon feed. We’re releasing it to share this important conversation with our wider audience. If you enjoy this episode, please consider supporting our show by joining us on Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/runoutpodcast
Show Notes
Follow Will: https://www.instagram.com/willhodgson11/
Follow Vincent: https://www.instagram.com/landryvincent/
Astra Lincoln is a writer, creative researcher, and self-described futurist working at the intersection of people, power, and place. She’s won Banff’s best article award twice and been a finalist for the Yale Nonfiction Book Prize, and before all that she worked as a pastry chef, a wilderness trail mason, and a glacial ecologist. Her first novel is on the way. And her latest article is a profile of the legendary Michael Kennedy, which is printed in the latest issue of Summit Journal, #325.
But first, the show hosts catch up on some 20 year old beef that no one can remember, and then dive into the latest autobelay horror story.
Our final bit comes from the incredibly talented Craig Muderlak — an illustrator, painter, musician and award-winning filmmaker, whose work is inspired by a desire to explore a connection to expansive landscapes. Check out the show notes for a link to Craig’s work and pick up one of his prints.
Show Notes
Astra Lincoln: https://www.astralincoln.com
Astra on Insta: https://www.instagram.com/astralincoln/
Summit Journal: https://www.summitjournal.com/products/summit-journal-subscription
Summit Journal Insta: https://www.instagram.com/summit.journal/
Craig Muderlak: https://www.muderlakart.com/
Craig Muderlak on Insta: https://www.instagram.com/muderlakart/
Colorado Gym Sees Two Unroped Falls in One Day: https://www.climbing.com/news/two-accidents-in-one-day-colorado-climbing-gym/
Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast
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Andres Marin is a mountain guide, alpinist, and competitive ice climber who’s originally from Columbia, but is a longtime resident of Ouray, Colorado. His passion is expedition climbing, and he’s completed notable first ascents around the world including in Kyrgzstan and Peru. We talk about a wildfire that nearly destroyed his town, affecting the climbing and local communities alike, as well as other catastrophes and disasters around the world. Despite being such a depressing conversation, Andres, with his usual humor and positive disposition, brings hope and light to the frontlines of these issues.
But first, your hosts convene on relationships in life and climbing.
The final bit is a little ditty from Sweet Jessup and the Dirty Buckets.
Show Notes
Andres Marin: https://www.instagram.com/andresmarin22/
Golgotha: https://alpinist.com/newswire/clint-helander-andres-marin-complete-their-dream-route-on-golgotha-in-alaskas-revelation-range/
Sweet Jessup: https://www.sweetjessup.com
Sweet Jessup’s Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6DpZa8AFybAzVP8WvdtGLb
Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast
Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. [email protected] // [email protected]
Liv Ogier recently completed the first ascent of Yellow Sun (5.14d), an extension to Tommy Caldwell’s Kryptonite at the Fortress of Solitude. As a former comp climber, her choice to project at one of Colorado’s most remote and challenging sport crags resulted in numerous days and nights of challenging conditions that are more often associated with alpinism than sport climbing. But the result of her efforts landed her among a very small and select group of women who have established first ascents of routes rated 5.14d.
But first, your grumpy hosts grump about climbing.
Our final bit is from Victor McConnell.
Show Notes
Follow Liv Ogier: https://www.instagram.com/oogier/
Read about her ascent: https://tensionclimbing.com/blogs/blog/the-evolution-of-kryptonite-the-process-behind-yellow-sun-colorado-s-newest-5-14d
Tension Climbing: https://tensionclimbing.com
Victor McConnell‘s work and news. https://www.victormcconnellauthor.com/
Victor on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/victormcconnell/
Order Victor’s book If You Can Hear This here: Bottlecap Press: https://bottlecap.press/products/ifyovm
World Climbing Assembly Cancels Vote on Banning Israel, Russia, and Belarus: https://www.climbing.com/news/world-climbing-assembly-cancels-vote-on-banning-israel-russia-and-belarus/
Chicago Climbing Gym Ordered to Pay $50 Million for Negligence in Child Sexual Abuse Case: https://www.climbing.com/news/first-ascent-climbing-gym-chicago-negligence-50-million-child-sexual-abuse-case/
No Return: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/07/06/did-a-climber-leave-his-girlfriend-to-die-at-the-top-of-a-mountain
Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast
Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. [email protected] // [email protected]



