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At the intersection of learning, media, and the future of work, join us each week as we sense and discover where the future of education is heading. Join host Mike Palmer, the Founder of Palmer Media, as he engages with thought leaders, pioneers, and entrepreneurs exploring the cutting edge of learning in these tumultuous times.
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Are screen bans solving the right problem, or just creating new ones? Host Mike Palmer welcomes Dr. Janice Jackson, Executive Director of the Education & Society Program at the Aspen Institute and former CEO of Chicago Public Schools, for a conversation that trades hyperbole for nuance. Janice traces her path from CPS history teacher and debate coach to superintendent, then to founder of Hope Chicago, and now to Aspen. There she helps lead the new Rising Generations Strategy Group, a cross-sector, cross-partisan, intergenerational effort that puts young people at the center of the conversation, not just on the input list.
Janice draws a clear line between phones in classrooms (ban them) and technology that augments learning (hold it accountable). She makes the equity case against blanket bans, calls for digital literacy over prohibition, and pushes the edtech industry to prove efficacy. The two dig into several threads:
> Aspen's first convening, where students opened with four provocations.
> An "AI Futures" exercise weighing risk and opportunity.
> Declining trust in institutions.
> The role of state policy, like Illinois' new AI legislation.
> A powerful lesson from Hope Chicago: getting help isn't cheating, it's what advantaged students have always done. If technology can level that playing field, we should embrace it.
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Resources Mentioned:
Aspen Institute Education & Society Program
Rising Generation Strategy Group
Hope Chicago
Dr. Jackson on The Education Equation with Jeremy Singer
Edelman Trust Barometer
Bellwether's responsible AI framework
Digital Promise
ISTE
Kim Smith, The Learner Studio
Timestamps:
๐ 00:00:00 โ Introduction: Welcoming Dr. Janice Jackson.
๐ 00:00:50 โ Origin Story: From CPS history teacher to superintendent, Hope Chicago, and Aspen.
๐ 00:03:15 โ The Rising Generation Strategy Group: Cross-sector, cross-partisan, and youth-centered.
๐ 00:04:30 โ The Equity Risk: Why quick screen bans can lock students out.
๐ 00:06:00 โ Phones vs. Edtech: Doom scrolling isn't the same as learning.
๐ 00:08:00 โ The Land of Hyperbole: Bringing parents and young people into the debate.
๐ 00:10:00 โ Digital Literacy: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
๐ 00:11:00 โ Students First: Aspen's convening and the Center for Rising Generations.
๐ 00:14:00 โ Trust Architecture: Gap-widening vs. gap-narrowing technology.
๐ 00:15:00 โ AI Futures: Mapping risks and opportunities together.
๐ 00:17:00 โ The Trust Deficit: What the Edelman Trust Barometer tells us.
๐ 00:19:00 โ Guardrails: Government's role and state-level AI policy.
๐ 00:21:30 โ Resources: Digital Promise, ISTE, and vetting edtech tools.
๐ 00:23:30 โ Advice: Be authentic, keep kids first, hone your craft.
๐ 00:25:30 โ Help-Seeking: Lessons from Hope Chicago on AI and "cheating."
๐ 00:28:30 โ Final Thoughts: Join the conversation on the purpose of schooling.
Trending in Ed kicks off Season 11 with the return of Harvard's Howard Gardner, the developmental psychologist behind the theory of multiple intelligences. Picking up where their first conversation left off, Howard and host Mike Palmer look past next year's syllabus to ask what education should be in 2050 and beyond.
Howard revisits Five Minds for the Future with a provocative claim: AI will increasingly outperform us at the disciplined, synthesizing, and creating minds, leaving the respectful and ethical minds as the core human work of education. He explains why he's adding "It" to I, We, and They, what scouting, humanistic communities, and Reggio Emilia can teach future learning, and how the "Four D's" can guide ethical dilemmas. The two also explore influencer culture, mentorship, and the ethical will Howard wrote for his grandchildren.
KEY INSIGHTS
๐ง From Intelligence to Cognition: Why an AI comparison of the Fabians and Bloomsbury convinced Howard that machines now out-synthesize him.
โ๏ธ Generals Fight the Last War: Tweaking today's classroom won't prepare learners for tomorrow, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
๐ Genes, Jeans, and Jelly Beans: An interest-driven, AI-supported curriculum that starts from what learners care about.
โบ Learning Through Community: Why intergenerational groups tackling real neighborhood problems may beat the classroom.
โ๏ธ The Four D's: Discuss, debate, decide, and debrief as a model for ethical decision-making.
๐ค The "Influmentor": What separates a Walter Cronkite from a clout-chaser, and why mentorship still matters.
About the Guest: Howard Gardner is the Hobbs Research Professor of Cognition and Education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, a longtime leader at Project Zero, and co-founder of The Good Project. His many books include Frames of Mind, Five Minds for the Future, and his memoir, A Synthesizing Mind.
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Howard's first appearance: https://trendingineducation.com/2024/11/howard-gardner-on-education-and-on-mind/
Howard's blogs: https://www.howardgardner.com
Timestamps:
๐ 00:00:00 โ Howard Gardner returns
๐ 00:02:15 โ Multiple intelligences at 45: animals, plants, and AI
๐ 00:04:00 โ Generals fight the last war
๐ 00:05:45 โ The synthesizer meets the LLM
๐ 00:09:10 โ Five Minds for the Future, revisited
๐ 00:12:50 โ Genes, jeans, and jelly beans
๐ 00:16:40 โ Good Starts: I, We, They... and It
๐ 00:18:40 โ Scouting, religion, and Reggio Emilia
๐ 00:23:00 โ The Good Project and the Four D's
๐ 00:27:30 โ Rethinking the influencer
๐ 00:34:00 โ Mentorship and the "influmentor"
๐ 00:38:30 โ Parenting and the ethical will
๐ 00:43:30 โ AI around the world
๐ 00:44:30 โ The end of the Anthropocene
How can higher education rebuild its relationship with the public in an era of heightened political polarization, shifting financial models, and rapid technological disruption? In this episode of Trending in Ed, host Mike Palmer welcomes back Jeremy C. Young, Senior Advisor at the American Association of Colleges and Universities (AAC&U), to discuss the foundational new report: Advancing Public Trust in Higher Education: The Trust Agenda.
As part of our ongoing Trending in Higher Ed seriesโfeaturing insights from leaders like Eddie Watson (AI & pedagogy), Brian Rosenberg (Whatever It Is, I'm Against It), and Elliot Felix (The Connected College)โthis episode explores how campus leaders can move past reactive crisis management and actively cultivate trustworthy relationships across their communities. Jeremy breaks down AAC&Uโs five-point framework, offering actionable, practical strategies for institutional leaders, faculty, and advocates.
Featured Reference & Key Highlights:
๐ Featured Reference: AAC&U's Report, Advancing Public Trust in Higher Education (The Trust Agenda)โthe core blueprint for this conversation, outlining actionable solutions to restore institutional trust.
๐ Accelerate Innovation: Overcoming institutional inertia to streamline shared governance, adapt to the rapid emergence of AI, and adopt flexible academic pathways like universal transfer and "College in Three".
๐ค Prioritize Community Engagement: Drawing inspiration from trusted community colleges and regional publics to act as true anchor institutionsโleveraging local procurement and public-facing research (echoing Dr. Kenneth Carterโs work in public scholarship).
๐ Recommit to Inclusive Excellence: Centering student success, expanding support for food/housing security, and fostering genuine civil dialogue that welcomes conservative students and diverse viewpoints (referencing Lara Schwartzโs Try to Love the Questions).
๐ข Tell a Clearer Story: Shift away from the media's hyper-fixation on elite Ivy League universities and reframe higher ed around shared public values like freedom, fairness, and opportunity directly through campus-level communications.
๐ก๏ธ Coordinate a Mission-Centered Defense: Protecting university autonomy and academic freedom through collaborative cross-institutional defense networksโbuilding a proactive trust foundation before crisis management (as discussed with Legend Labs' Jeff Hunt) becomes necessary.
Episode Timestamps:
โฑ๏ธ 00:00 โ Welcome back Jeremy C. Young & transition from PEN America to AAC&U
โฑ๏ธ 00:03:00 โ Introducing the featured reference: AAC&U's Trust Agenda report
โฑ๏ธ 00:09:00 โ Pillar 1: Accelerating innovation, AI adaptation, & shared governance reform
โฑ๏ธ 00:12:30 โ Pillar 2: Community engagement, anchor institution strategy, & local impact
โฑ๏ธ 00:19:00 โ Pillar 3: Inclusive excellence, student support, & engaging political difference
โฑ๏ธ 00:26:30 โ Pillar 4: Reframing higher ed narratives & empowering local messengers
โฑ๏ธ 00:33:30 โ Pillar 5: Collaborative defense, institutional autonomy, & cross-sector alignment
โฑ๏ธ 00:39:30 โ Implementation: AAC&U's upcoming Leadership Institute & long-term outlook
Catch the full video episode now on YouTube and Spotify!
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Mike Palmer reconnects with old colleague Don Gregori, COO of First Factory, to unpack core insights from Donโs book, The Emergent Leader: A Guide to Brand Building, Leadership, and Self-Mastery. Drawing from a non-linear career pathโranging from theater major and aerial stunt coordinator to an 18-year tenure at Kaplan and scaling tech teamsโDon shares practical strategies for authentic leadership, proactive stress management, and navigating AI workplace disruption.
Key Takeaways
๐ญ Unconventional Paths Build Strong Leaders: Creative backgrounds like theater teach team vision, feedback loops, and real-time collaboration far better than standard business classrooms.
๐ท๏ธ Authentic Brand Building: Standing out requires standing alone; authentic leaders drop polished posturing, embrace their flaws, and focus on human connection.
๐งฉ Self-Mastery Precedes Leadership: Mindset functions as an operating system. True self-mastery requires proactive stress preparation and ruthless prioritization rather than reactive recovery.
๐ค AI Shifts Value to Generalists: As AI commoditizes routine execution, critical thinking, problem-solving, and cross-functional synthesis become an employee's most essential assets.
๐ผ Delegation Drives Growth: Effective leadership requires simplifying or delegating your current tasks so you remain open to new growth and strategic opportunities.
Timestamps
00:00 - Introduction & Reconnecting 30 Years Later
01:45 - Theater, Aerial Stunts, and Unconventional Business Prep
03:30 - Digital Transformation & Career Progression at Kaplan
05:45 - Near-Shore Software Development at FirstFactory
07:15 - Why Write The Emergent Leader?
11:00 - Leg 1: Brand Building, Culture, and Authentic Leadership
20:00 - Leg 2: Leadership Development, Vulnerability, and Prioritization
25:30 - Leg 3: Self-Mastery, Mindset, and Proactive Stress Management
31:45 - How AI is Reshaping Tech, Developers, and Critical Thinking
35:45 - Early-Career Advice and Reskilling for the Future
39:00 - Parting Thoughts & Wrap-Up
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What if everything we know about teaching reading is upside down?
In this episode of Trending in Education, host Mike Palmer sits down with tech entrepreneur, keynote speaker, and innovator David Chalk to unpack a remarkable story of literacy, neurodiversity, trauma, and redemption.
Key Highlights & Discussion Points:
๐ง Trauma and the Literacy Crisis: David recounts his early school trauma starting on day one of first grade, highlighting how unrecognized dyslexia and ADHD left him functionally illiterate for decades.
โ๏ธ Building Success Beyond Reading: Despite reading at a fourth-grade level, David built multi-hundred-million-dollar businesses and became an airline jet pilot by leaning into creativity and oral vocabulary.
๐ Unlocking Reading in 11 Hours: Featured in the documentary The Truth About Reading, David reversed standard instruction methods to jump from a 4th-grade reading level to post-university proficiency in just 11 hours at age 62.
๐ค AI as a Pattern-Based Learning Ally: AI language models process language through pattern trainingโmirroring how human brains naturally acquire spoken wordsโoffering a powerful tool to tutor neurodiverse learners without cognitive strain.
๐ฃ๏ธ Vocabulary and the Future of Work: As technology evolves, rich oral communication skills, deep vocabulary, and expressive clarity will serve as critical differentiators in an AI-driven workforce.
โค๏ธ The Role of Emotional Resilience: David emphasizes why unconditional parental support and self-esteem are essential safeguards for children struggling through academic friction.
About the Guest
David Chalk is a technology entrepreneur, keynote speaker, and neurodiversity advocate who has founded ten successful companies. After mastering fluid reading at age 62, David now applies his background in artificial intelligence and pattern recognition to transform reading instruction for struggling learners everywhere.
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