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Jeff Gross sits down with Garrett Adelstein, one of the most recognizable and respected high-stakes cash game players in the world, just two weeks before the release of his debut memoir, Beneath the Cards, out September 1st. Garrett explains what it actually took to write it: more than three years of drafts, therapy sessions that turned into pages, and a story far bigger than the headline he is best known for. He opens up about how the controversial Jack4 hand at Hustler Casino Live became the unexpected catalyst for the whole project, why he still doesn't feel he has every answer, and how he reads the public perception of that night today. From there the two go back to the beginning: grinding online as a college freshman in 2004, running his bankroll to nearly a million dollars by graduation, then losing almost all of it in six months. Garrett gets candid about the on-and-off mental health cycles that peaked on his 30th birthday, the harmony-not-balance philosophy he uses to raise two young kids while still chasing big goals, why he believes it is harder than ever to build a poker career today, and why the game deserves far more credit for the real-world skills it teaches.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro: Beneath the Cards, Two Weeks Out, and What the Memoir Actually Covers
03:32 - Jack4 Revisited: Public Perception, the Misinformation Narrative, and the Documentary to Come
12:49 - The Origin Story: Online at 18, a Near-Million by Graduation, and Going Broke at 22
15:35 - Black Friday, Talking Stick, and Falling for Live Poker at Commerce Casino
21:26 - Writing the Book: Therapy Turned to Pages, Three Years of Rewrites, and the Real Metric
28:06 - Fatherhood and Harmony, Not Balance: Two Kids, the Midlife Squeeze, and Non-Negotiables
33:38 - Mental Health: The On-Off Cycles, a 30th-Birthday Breakdown, and Building Resilience
45:32 - The Upswing Course, a $999 Deep Dive, and the Rounders Casting Question
50:37 - The High-Stakes Reality: Profit Ceilings, Poker Politics, and What's Misunderstood
54:12 - Poker's Real-World Skills, the Legal Gray Area, and Advice for the Next Generation
1:06:50 - The Lodge, Coming Back Rusty, What the Elite Share, and Why It's Just Gambling
Links and Socials
Beneath the Cards (pre-order / all formats): https://garrettadelstein.com/links/
Garrett Adelstein Instagram: https://instagram.com/garrettadelsteinpoker
Garrett Adelstein X (Twitter): https://x.com/GmanPoker
Garrett Adelstein YouTube: https://youtube.com/@garrettadelsteinpoker
Garrett Adelstein Website: https://garrettadelstein.com
Jeff Gross:
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In this episode, Jeff Gross sits down with serial entrepreneur Josh Luber,
co-founder of StockX and Fanatics Collectibles and the only guest bold enough to
open a live box break on the show. Returning for his second appearance after
Episode 99, Josh traces a once-in-a-generation run: taking StockX from zero to a
billion dollars in three years, then building Fanatics Collectibles from zero to a $10
billion valuation in a single year as, briefly, the company's only employee. He
breaks down the Chase Economy thesis that ties sneakers, trading cards, and toys
together, contrasts founding alongside moguls Dan Gilbert and Michael Rubin, and
explains why control over all else is his number one rule for entrepreneurs. Josh
also opens up his newest collectible venture, Ghostwrite, ripping a USMNT World
Cup box live and revealing the Caitlin Clark one-of-one and the $44,000 Ohtani
Fire Crown. The conversation closes on the business Jeff and Josh are building
together, Alligator Blood, the Facebook for poker backed by a steering committee
of the game's biggest names, and why the ultimate goal is to become the catalyst
that finally brings poker home.
Chapters
• 00:00 - Intro: A Repeat Guest, Live in Miami, and the Business They're Building
Together
• 02:19 - StockX to Fanatics Collectibles: Zero to $1B, Zero to $10B, and the
Chase Economy
• 04:07 - Dan Gilbert vs. Michael Rubin: Luck, Timing, and Why Control Beats
Everything
• 06:51 - Poker as a Business School: GTO vs. Feel, the White Paper, and
Legalizing the Game
• 16:08 - Working From the Felt: Writing Every StockX Email at the Greektown
Poker Room
• 20:36 - Inside Ghostwrite: Collectible Toys, Rare Parallels, and the $44K
Ohtani Fire Crown
• 23:04 - The Caitlin Clark Holy Grail, AFA Grading, and a Live USMNT World
Cup Box Break
• 35:59 - Alligator Blood: Facebook for Poker, Fragmentation, and the Steering
Committee of Legends
• 54:35 - Legalization, The Lodge, the Waitlist Flip, and the Rounders Origin of
the Name
Links and Socials
• Josh Luber Instagram: https://instagram.com/joshluber
• Josh Luber X (Twitter): https://x.com/joshluber
• Ghostwrite: https://ghostwrite.com
• Ghostwrite Instagram: https://instagram.com/_ghostwrite_
• Alligator Blood: https://alligatorblood.com• Alligator Blood Instagram: https://instagram.com/_gatorblood
Jeff Gross:
• https://www.youtube.com/jeffgrosspoker
• https://www.youtube.com/jeffgrosspodcast
• https://twitch.tv/jeffgrosspoker
• https://instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker
• https://x.com/jeffgrosspoker
In this episode, Jeff Gross sits down with Madrid-born tennis standout turned Miami luxury real estate mogul and world-class ultra-endurance athlete, Alvaro Nuñez. Alvaro shares the incredible narrative arc of his life—from facing a sudden U.S. visa lottery rejection to pivoting immediately to launch an international high-net-worth hospitality empire, which eventually evolved into the Super Luxury Group. He candidly details the profound mental breakthroughs he achieved through a 10-day Vipassana meditation course, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, enduring a grueling seven-day total darkness cave retreat, and running six marathons across the Sahara Desert to raise mental health awareness. Alvaro and Jeff dive deep into regulating the nervous system, building luxury creator houses focused on clean community networking, and why the ultimate metric of elite success comes down to a deceptively simple standard: doing exactly what you say you will do.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro & Wild Adventures with Dan "Jungle Man" Cates
02:21 - Finding Profound Clarity: Kilimanjaro, Everest Risks, and Vipassana Meditation
09:58 - The American Dream: Tennis Scholarships, Visa Setbacks, and Building a Luxury Real Estate Empire
16:26 - High-Flying Business: Helicopter Aviation, Confronting Signs, and Miami VIP Culture
22:54 - Extreme Challenges: 7 Marathons in 7 Days & Surviving a 7-Day Darkness Retreat
26:08 - Embracing the Misogi: Running the Sahara Desert for Mental Health Awareness
38:41 - Shifting the Focus: Presence Over Performance, Longevity, and Future Family Goals
46:49 - Disrupting Wellness: NASA-Backed Science, Inter Miami, and the Race Across America
54:22 - Activating Communities: Luxury Creator Houses & Stacking Daily Wins for Elite Success
Links and Socials
Alvaro Nuñez Instagram: https://instagram.com/alvaronunez
Alvaro Nuñez X (Twitter): https://x.com/anunezofficial
Alvaro Nuñez YouTube: https://youtube.com/@alvaronunezalfaro
Super Luxury Group Instagram: https://instagram.com/superluxurygroup
Super Luxury Group X (Twitter): https://x.com/superluxurygrp
Super Luxury Group YouTube: https://youtube.com/@SuperLuxuryGroup
Jeff Gross
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Jeff Gross sits down with long-time friend Brent "Buffalo" Hanks to discuss his incredible journey from a fifth and sixth-grade school teacher in rural New York to becoming a WSOP bracelet winner and the CEO of PokerGO. Brent shares unbelievable stories from his early days, including moving to Las Vegas and taking down the Sunday Million while sleeping on an air mattress , and the rollercoaster of getting staked for live events by Jason Mercier. The two dive deep into the current landscape of the poker industry, the evolution of High Stakes Poker lineups , the monumental WSOP and ESPN broadcasting deal featuring Peyton Manning's Omaha Productions , and the highly anticipated return of the National Heads-Up Poker Championship. Brent’s authentic, gamer-at-heart energy shines as he reflects on his passion for the game, invaluable leadership lessons, and why poker desperately needs to re-embrace its gambling roots.
Chapters
00:01:24 - The Boom Era: From Fifth-Grade Teacher to Full-Time Poker Pro
00:09:44 - Welcome to Vegas: Winning the Sunday Million on an Air Mattress
00:13:39 - Staking Deals with Jason Mercier & The 2012 WSOP Bracelet
00:27:23 - The "Sport vs. Gamble" Debate & The Importance of Table Talk
00:33:04 - Stepping Up as CEO of PokerGO & Working with Mori Eskandani
00:36:10 - Evolving High Stakes Poker: Live Filming, VIP Lineups, and Alan Keating
00:41:55 - The WSOP's Return to ESPN & Teaming Up with Omaha Productions
00:45:34 - Jeff Gets the Invite: The Return of the NBC Heads-Up Poker Championship
00:53:24 - Launching "No Gamble, No Future" & Leadership Lessons from Cary Katz
01:03:20 - Future Predictions: WSOP Main Event Legacy & Regulating Online Bracelets
Links and Socials
• Brent Hanks X https://x.com/BuffaloHanks
Jeff Gross:
• https://www.youtube.com/jeffgrosspoker
• https://www.youtube.com/jeffgrosspodcast
• http://twitch.com/jeffgrosspoker
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Jeff welcomes Wayne Chiang, a pioneer of modern e-sports and a seasoned high-stakes poker professional who now serves as the Talent Manager for the WSOP. Wayne discusses his early days as the world’s number one StarCraft player and the parallels between competitive gaming and professional poker. He details the new WSOP Vlogger Program designed to support content creators of all levels and his transition from the "miserable" grind of high-stakes play to a more fulfilled role within the industry. Wayne also previews his upcoming book, Betting On Yourself, which explores decision-making under uncertainty, ethics as a competitive advantage, and navigating the new era of AI.
Chapters
00:00:09 - From StarCraft World Champion to WSOP Talent Manager
00:02:05 - The Birth of E-sports and Early Online Poker Days
00:04:54 - Transitioning from High-Stakes Pro to the Working Side of Poker
00:07:38 - Missing the Grind vs. Staying a "Gamer at Heart"
00:09:57 - Poker Meritocracy: Rankings, GPAs, and the World Series Legacy
00:12:58 - The WSOP Vlogger Program: Incentives for Content Creators
00:15:33 - Experience at Live at the Bike and Dealing with Corporate Poker
00:18:22 - Managing Personalities: A 180-Degree Turn on Phil Hellmuth
00:21:37 - The Value of Influencers and Partnerships in Modern Poker
00:22:51 - Betting On Yourself: New Book on Business, Poker, and AI
00:25:46 - Two Hand Hold’em: Patenting and Launching a New Casino Game
00:28:33 - How to Contact Wayne and Join the Vlogger Program
00:31:11 - Memory Dividends and Closing Remarks from Paradise
Links and Socials
Wayne Chiang X: https://x.com/D22_soso
Wayne Chiang Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/d22_soso/?hl=en
Jeff Gross:
https://www.youtube.com/jeffgrosspoker
https://www.youtube.com/jeffgrosspodcast
http://twitch.com/jeffgrosspoker
https://instagram.com/jeffgrosspoker
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