Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning

<p>In this episode Andrea Samadi revisits Season 15’s foundation with Dr. Bruce Perry to explore how safety, regulation, and patterned experience shape the brain’s capacity to learn and create. We examine why potential must be activated through repetition, rhythm, and low-threat environments, and how trauma, stress, or dysregulation block learning.</p> <p></p> <p>Takeaways include practical steps for educators, parents, and leaders: prioritize nervous-system safety before instruction, use micro-repetition to build skills, and employ storytelling to make scientific ideas stick.</p> <p>This episode anchors Phase 1 of the season: regulation, rhythm, repetition, and relational safety as the prerequisites for sustainable performance and lasting change.</p> <p>This week, Episode 385—based on our review of Episode 168 recorded in October 2021—we explore:</p> <p>✔ 1. Genetic Potential vs. Developed Capacity We are born with extraordinary biological potential. But experience determines which neural systems become functional. The brain builds what it repeatedly uses.</p> <p>✔ 2. The Brain Is Use-Dependent Language, emotional regulation, leadership skills, motor precision— all are wired through patterned, rhythmic repetition.</p> <p>✔ 3. Trauma, Regulation &amp; Learning A dysregulated nervous system cannot efficiently learn. Safety, rhythm, and relational connection come before strategy.</p> <p>✔ 4. “What Happened to You?” vs. “What’s Wrong with You?” Shifting from judgment to curiosity changes how we approach:</p> <ul> <p>Children</p> <p>Students</p> <p>Teams</p> <p>Ourselves</p> </ul> <p>✔ 5. Early Experience Shapes Long-Term Expression Developmental inputs—especially patterned, early ones— determine which capacities are strengthened.</p> <p>✔ 6. Repetition Builds Confidence Confidence is not a personality trait. It is neural circuitry built through structured repetition in safe environments.</p> <p>✔ 7. Story Makes Science Stick From Dr. Perry’s experience writing with Oprah: You can’t tell everybody everything you know. Impact comes from:</p> <ul> <p>One core idea</p> <p>Wrapped in story</p> <p>Delivered with restraint</p> </ul> <p>✔ 8. Information Overload Weakens Learning Depth &gt; Volume Clarity &gt; Density Retention &gt; Impressive Data</p> <p>✔ 9. Regulation Comes Before Motivation Before goals. Before performance. Before achievement. The nervous system must feel safe.</p> <p>✔ 10. Season 15’s Foundational Question Is the nervous system safe enough to learn?</p> <p>Welcome back to Season 15 of the <em>Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast</em>.</p> <p>I’m Andrea Samadi, and here we bridge the science behind social and emotional learning, emotional intelligence, and practical neuroscience—so we can create measurable improvements in well-being, achievement, productivity, and results.</p> <p>When we launched this podcast seven years ago, it was driven by a question I had never been taught to ask— not in school, not in business, and not in life:</p> <p>If results matter—and they matter now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make these results happen?</p> <p>Most of us were taught <em>what</em> to do. Very few of us were taught how to think under pressure, how to regulate emotion, how to sustain motivation, or even how to produce consistent results without burning out.</p> <p>That question led me into a deep exploration of the mind–brain–results connection—and how neuroscience applies to everyday decisions, conversations, and performance.</p> <p>That’s why this podcast exists.</p> <p>Each week, we bring you leading experts to break down complex science and translate it into practical strategies you can apply immediately.</p> <p>If you’ve been with us through Season 14, you may have felt something shift.</p> <p>That season wasn’t about collecting ideas.</p> <p>It was about integrating these ideas into our daily life, as we launched our review of past episodes.</p> <p>Across conversations on neuroscience, social and emotional learning, sleep, stress, exercise, nutrition, and mindset frameworks—we heard from voices like Bob Proctor, José Silva, Dr. Church, Dr. John Medina, and others—one thing became clear:</p> <p>These aren’t separate tools that we are covering in each episode. They’re parts of one operating system.</p> <p>When the brain, body, and emotions are aligned, performance stops feeling forced—and starts to feel sustainable.</p> <p>Season 14 showed us what alignment looks like in real life. We looked at goals and mental direction, rewiring the brain, future-ready learning and leadership, self-leadership, which ALL led us to inner alignment.</p> <p>And now we move into Season 15 that is about understanding how that alignment is built—so we can build it ourselves, using predictable, science-backed principles.</p> <p>Because alignment doesn’t happen all at once. It happens by using a sequence.</p> <p>And when we understand the order of that sequence — we can replicate it.</p> <p>By repeating this sequence over and over again, until magically (or predictably) we notice our results have changed.</p> <p>So Season 15 we’ve organized as a review roadmap, where each episode explores one foundational brain system—and each phase builds on the one before it.</p> <p>Season 15 Roadmap:</p> <ul> Phase 1 — Regulation &amp; Safety Phase 2 — Neurochemistry &amp; Motivation Phase 3 — Movement, Learning &amp; Cognition Phase 4 — Perception, Emotion &amp; Social Intelligence Phase 5 — Integration, Insight &amp; Meaning </ul> PHASE 1: REGULATION &amp; SAFETY <p>Staples: Sleep + Stress Regulation Core Question: <em>Is the nervous system safe enough to learn?</em></p> Anchor Episodes <ul> Episode 384 — Baland Jalal <em>How learning begins: curiosity, sleep, imagination, creativity</em> Bruce Perry <em>“What happened to you?” — trauma, rhythm, relational safety</em> Sui Wong <em>Autonomic balance, lifestyle medicine, brain resilience</em> Rohan Dixit <em>HRV, real-time self-regulation, nervous system literacy</em> </ul> <p>Last week we began with Phase One: Regulation and Safety as we revisited Dr. Baland Jalal’s interview from June 2022.</p> EP 384 — Dr. Baland Jalal<a href='#_edn1'>[i]</a> <p>Dr. Baland Jalal</p> <p><em>This episode sits at the foundation of Season 15.</em></p> <p><em>Dr. Baland Jalal is a Harvard neuroscientist whose work explores how sleep, imagination, and curiosity shape the brain’s capacity to learn and create.</em></p> <p><em>What stood out to me then — and even more now — is that learning doesn’t begin with effort. It begins when the brain is rested, regulated, and free to explore possibility.</em></p> <p><em>This conversation reminds us that creativity isn’t added later — it’s built into the brain when conditions are right.</em></p> <p>It’s here we remember that before learning can happen, before curiosity can emerge, before motivation or growth is possible— the brain must feel safe.</p> <p>And what better place to begin with safety and the brain, than with Dr. Bruce Perry, who we met October of 2021 on EP 168.<a href='#_edn2'>[ii]</a></p> EP 385 — Dr. Bruce Perry Dr. Bruce Perry (Episode 168 – October 2021) <p>Dr. Bruce Perry, Senior Fellow of the Child Trauma Academy in Houston, Texas, and Adjunct Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at the Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, joined the podcast to help us better understand how traumatic experiences shape the developing brain.</p> <p>At the time, I was deeply concerned about the generational impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. In one of Dr. Perry’s trainings, he referenced research conducted after Hurricane Katrina in 2005, which showed that families exposed to prolonged stress experienced increased rates of substance abuse — not only in those directly affected, but in the next generation as well.</p> <p>As I began hearing reports of rising depression, anxiety, and substance use during the pandemic, I wondered:</p> <p>What could we do now to reduce the long-term neurological and emotional impact on our children, our schools, and future generations?</p> <p>Dr. Perry agreed to come on the show to share insights from his work and to discuss his book, co-authored with Oprah Winfrey:</p> <p><em>What Happened to You: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience and Healing.</em><a href='#_edn3'>[iii]</a></p> <p><em>Dr. Bruce Perry challenges one of the most common questions we ask in education, leadership, and parenting.</em></p> <p><em>Instead of asking, “What’s wrong with you?” he asks, “What happened to you?”</em></p> <p><em>In this conversation, we explored how early experiences shape the brain, how trauma disrupts regulation, and why healing begins with rhythm, safety, and connection</em><em>. </em></p> <p><em>You can find a link to our full interview in the resource section in the show notes. </em></p> <p><em>This episode anchors Season 15 by reminding us: a dysregulated brain cannot learn — no matter how good the strategy.</em></p> <p>Let’s go to our first clip with Dr. Bruce Perry, and look deeper at how we are all born with potential, but our experience builds the rest.</p> <a href='https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BSbo96a-aG0'>🎥 VIDEO CLIP 1 We are born with potential, experience builds the rest— Dr. Bruce Perry</a> <p></p> <p>“As a species, we carry within our collective DNA extraordinary potential — remarkable cognitive, motor, and social-emotional capabilities.</p> <p>But no single individual receives or expresses the full range of that potential. Each of us is born with a portion of what is possible, and from that portion, only some capacities become functional.</p> <p>What determines which abilities develop? Experience.</p> <p>Developmental experiences — especially early patterned ones — shape which neural systems are built and strengthened.</p> <p>For example, we’re speaking English right now, but we all had the biological potential to speak Russian. Because we were not exposed to those so