Afternoons

Faith is sometimes hard to come by .. just ask any Warrior fan. For years, the story of religious faith has been the story of decline. But the reality is more complicated than that. New data from the Pew research center shows that in America anyway, young people aren't just moving away from faith, they're moving away from certainty. Former Baptist pastor Ryan Burge is now a professor of practice at Washington University in St Louis and a prolific author. He's considered the one of the leading data analysts on religion and politics. He's written about the Pew study on his recent substack Belief Isn't Dying, It's Just Getting Less Certain.

Afternoons TV critic Philippa Rennie shares what she's been watching with Jesse. This week it's Good Bones (TV3) and Billy Idol Should Be Dead (TVNZ+)

It's time for our expert feature and today we're talking about drones. In the modern world drones are used for just about everything, from fishing to military use to nighttime light displays. A while back Jesse even spoke to a guy who had invented chainsaw drones for felling trees. Our expert today is Philip Solaris, chief executive of Obsidian Systems, a New Zealand robotics company developing autonomous systems across air, land, sea, and sub-sea environments.

Each week at this time Jesse hits the clubs. It's just him and some hardcore clubbers left holding up the dance floor.

Each Monday we head across the ditch to discuss the big stories with our correspondent Brad Foster.