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Soul Talks With Bill & Kristi Gaultiere
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It's easy to be so busy that your soul gets neglected. As Doctors of Psychology we help you thrive with Jesus in life, love, and leadership. Soul Talks is sponsored by Soul Shepherding, a nonprofit ministry to pastors, leaders, and all kinds of people who serve the Lord.
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You’ve likely experienced the messiness that comes with conflict in close relationships. All of us are human — meaning we each have unique hurts, emotions, needs, and perceptions that we bring to difficult conversations. It’s tempting to hide our hearts from each other for the sake of “moving on.” Yet this misguided attempt to protect the relationships that matter most only creates a distance that ultimately weakens our connection.
Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi discuss the importance of strengthening relationships through rupture and repair. You’ll get equipped to move toward the “hard” in relationship with emotional honesty, empathy for those who’ve hurt you, and the patience to stay present as you grow in understanding yourself and others.
Resources for this Episode:
Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
Deeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for You
Meet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual Director
Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
All of us experience times when the same grace that flows through us to others is hard to grasp for ourselves. Sadly our thoughts often slander us the same way religious bullies insulted Jesus: “You saved others but you can't save yourself” (Matthew 27:42 paraphrased). Thankfully we don't have to drown in shame — we can take heart from Jesus on the cross as he leads us into deeper experiences of grace.
Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi help us become more enthralled with Jesus this Holy Week. You'll experience him more personally and empathetically as you share in his experience of spiritual and emotional anguish on the cross. The Suffering Savior invites you to borrow his faith and trust that God is with you, loving you, and pleased with you as you grow in union with God and mature to become more like him.
Resources for this Episode:
Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
Unforsaken: Journey with Jesus on the Stations of the Cross
Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
You love the people around you and desire to support them — but your soul is also drained. It's common for those of us who are tender-hearted, sensitive, and attuned to others' needs to struggle with compassion fatigue. Thankfully we can learn to steward the gift of empathy Jesus has given us by setting boundaries and practicing soul care.
Join us for this episode of Soul Talks for part three of a teaching Bill and Kristi shared at the American Association of Christian Counselors. It's impossible to overflow with empathy for others unless it's a wellspring in your own soul. You'll learn when and how to offer empathy and get equipped with practices (like Calming Touch Prayer and Empathy Prayer) so that your care remains healthy and fruitful.
Resources for this Episode:
The Bible studies, research, diagrams, and practices referenced in this episode can be found in our book Deeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for You
If you’d like Bill and Kristi to speak at your conference, event, or church, you can email contact@soulshepherding.org.
You might also:
Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
Meet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual Director
Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
It's painful and overwhelming when stress, hurt, or trauma triggers us emotionally and affects our well-being. Often this leads us to pull away — judging our emotions, hiding our needs, and distancing ourselves from others. Sadly this keeps us from the empathy we desperately need to heal and recover.
Join us for this episode of Soul Talks for part two of a message Bill and Kristi shared at the American Association of Christian Counselors. You'll see how empathy — both from Jesus and his ambassadors — leads to healing and fosters healthy qualities such as forgiveness, satisfaction, and resilience. The lost parts of you can be found by the Good Shepherd as you become restored in his acceptance, love, and care.
Resources for this Episode:
Deeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for You
Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
Meet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual Director
Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Many of us grew up in an empathy desert and missed out on being seen, known, and loved. Sadly, a lack of being understood and accepted often unintentionally creates emotional distance in our churches, friendships, and even our relationship with God. We might fail to realize that we can’t become more loving and healthy like Jesus without the grace of empathy.
Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks to listen to part one of a talk that Bill and Kristi shared at the American Association of Christian Counselors Conference. You’ll see that empathy is more than just a listening skill — it’s an expression of love that helps us cultivate the secure attachment necessary to persevere through trials and grow in Christlikeness.
Resources for this Episode:
The Bible studies, research, diagrams, and practices referenced in this episode can be found in our book Deeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for You
If you’d like Bill and Kristi to speak at your conference, event, or church, you can email contact@soulshepherding.org.
You might also:
Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
Meet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual Director
Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
The demands of life and ministry have taught most of us to prioritize doing over being. Yet eventually we realize that “trying harder” doesn’t satisfy our deepest longing for a flourishing relationship with Jesus. Thankfully the Good Shepherd meets us at “the end of ourselves” and invites us into spacious places of renewal.
Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Kristi talks to Ron Thompson, a pastor with 30+ years of experience who also serves as a Sr. Spiritual Director on our staff. Ron shares how coming on a Soul Shepherding retreat helped him become enthralled with Jesus, find freedom from depression, and transform how he cares for others in partnership with Christ. Friend, we pray that you can also go deeper in Jesus’ grace on a retreat.
Resources for this Episode:
Attend a Soul Shepherding Retreat
Earn a Certificate in Spiritual Direction
Meet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual Director
Donate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Let’s be honest — we’re not always naturally drawn toward the suffering of Jesus and his death on the cross. Yet all of us know the experience of struggling through hardship, loss, and distress. Where can we turn to find comfort and strength when we feel crushed underneath the weight of spiritual wrestling, emotional turmoil, or physical pain?Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi help reorient you to the surprising joy found at the cross. You’ll learn how Jesus’ empathy for suffering can become your secret source of strength — finding consolation in sharing the same closeness and comfort that he does with the Father.(This episode highlights the Take Heart devotionals we read and discuss each morning over breakfast during Soul Shepherding retreats. You can receive a copy of the devotional read today by sending a donation of any amount to Soul Shepherding! The link is below ⬇️)Resources for this Episode:Attend a Soul Shepherding RetreatUnforsaken: Journey with Jesus on the Stations of the CrossDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
All of us long to know with confidence the love and forgiveness that Jesus poured out at the cross. Yet we remain distant from this deeper experience of grace when we lose touch with our bottomless need for Christ or become paralyzed by shame. Thankfully Jesus doesn’t beat us over the head with the cross — he gently woos us back with his unfailing mercy.Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi reflect on a poetic portrayal of the cross from Johann Gerhard, an author of classic Christian devotion. This discussion will help you personalize the cross as you experience Jesus bending down to kiss you, opening his arms to embrace you, and offering you his heart of passion and delight.(This special episode highlights the Take Heart devotionals we read and discuss each morning over breakfast during Soul Shepherding retreats. You can receive a new devotional sent to your inbox each month by setting up a recurring donation with Soul Shepherding!)Resources for this Episode:Attend a Soul Shepherding RetreatEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Dallas Willard taught us that Jesus offers us a life without lack in the Kingdom of God. But what do we do when experiencing the real pain of unmet needs, unhealed wounds, and unanswered prayers? You can learn to pause and pray — bringing your distresses and desires to Jesus to cultivate a peace and rest that’s rooted in his gentle love, wise leadership, and fierce faithfulness.Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi talk about following Jesus through the many terrains of the spiritual journey. Praying and meditating on this Dallas-inspired paraphrase of Psalm 23 from will help you trust the Good Shepherd as he leads you into deeper union with God.(If you want to go deeper into Psalm 23 and the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.)Resources for this Episode:Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredJoin Our Free Devotional Email ListAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
It’s true that our best efforts are good and effective — we are beautifully and wonderfully created by God, after all. Yet it’s easy to slip into self-reliance and try to “make things happen” in our own strength. Instead, we can learn to keep watch with Jesus as we work, joining God’s presence and activity all around us.Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi share how learning to trust God, instead of relying solely on their own best efforts, transformed their apprenticeship to Jesus and helped them grow in emotional and relational health. This subtle shift in thinking will change how you approach life and ministry — especially during stress, trials, and conflict. You’ll be equipped with a lifelong practice to help you release control to God and find joy in creative partnership with the Good Shepherd.(If you want to go deeper into the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.)Resources for this Episode:Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
How do we heal, grow, and change as apprentices of Jesus? Many of us have subscribed to the traditional Christian approach of “trying harder” to “believe and do what’s right,” only to find ourselves stuck and discouraged. Thankfully the vision Jesus casts for transformation shows us a different path forward.Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi share how Dallas Willard’s mantra, “Don’t try — train,” revolutionized their approach to spiritual formation. You’ll burn with a desire to become more loving and healthy and get equipped with a practical tool to help you grow in Christlikeness one area at a time.If you want to go deeper into the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.Resources for this Episode:Attend a Soul Shepherding RetreatEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionYour Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Grace is central to our faith yet its meaning is often confused. Mixed messages can leave us in a tug-of-war between “doing nothing” and “trying harder” to earn God's favor. What is grace actually and how does it affect our daily apprenticeship to Jesus?Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi unpack what they’ve learned about grace from Dallas Willard. Discover how grace can go beyond “undeserved merit” and become fuel for your life, relationships, and ministry. You can set aside pretending, presuming, and pushing to respond to grace and join God’s activity in everything you do! (If you want to go deeper into the insights we gained from Dallas Willard, we invite you to join us on a retreat or train to become a spiritual director with Soul Shepherding. You can learn more by following the links below.)Resources for this Episode:Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
God is with us always — not only in “big” or “spiritual” moments but also during the ordinary challenges of day-to-day life. Yet it’s tempting to think we’re alone when experiencing stress at work, emotional hurt, or relational challenges. How can we become more aware of Jesus’ presence and live a God-saturated life?Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi discuss a transformational vision they caught from Dallas Willard — the Kingdom of the Heavens is open, now! Their conversation will stir you to rethink the kind of life that’s possible with Jesus as you learn practical ways to integrate him into your life, ministry, work, challenges, and relationships. Resources for this Episode:Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDeeply Loved: Receiving and Reflecting God’s Great Empathy for YouJourney of the Soul: A Practical Guide to Emotional and Spiritual GrowthHealthy Feelings, Thriving Faith: Growing Emotionally and Spiritually Through the EnneagramDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
If prayer is so foundational to our relationship with Jesus, why do many of us find it so challenging? Maybe you’ve experienced practicing prayer as dutiful — something you do only because you’re “supposed to.” Perhaps you feel discouraged, disoriented, and unsure if talking to God really makes a difference at all.Tune in for this updated episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi reflect on the teachings from Dallas Willard that have transformed how they understand and practice prayer. Your desire for prayer will be reignited as you explore the multi-dimensional layers of conversation with Jesus and learn how you can integrate partnership with the Good Shepherd into all of life. Resources for this Episode:Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatPrayer Guides BundleDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Praying to become more like Jesus can seem out of reach or surface feelings of shame. Yet growing in Christlikeness is a lifelong journey that includes highs and lows, consolations and desolations, and a range of feelings. Regardless of your current spiritual terrain or emotional challenges, your life can become a school for training with Jesus.Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi introduce the Apprentice Prayer — a prayer designed to stir your longing for Jesus and paint a picture of what life in the Kingdom of God can look like. This favorite podcast replay will help you connect with Jesus’ grace as you aim to grow and change this new year.Resources for this Episode:Your Best Life in Jesus’ Easy Yoke: Rhythms of Grace to De-Stress and Live EmpoweredAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Let’s face it — the chaos of travel, family gatherings, and exchanging presents can cause us to forget the miracle of Christmas. It’s easy to become numb or distracted from the treasure of Jesus. Meditating on Scripture helps us reorient ourselves to the surprising arrival of Immanuel and the stunning reality of his everlasting kingdom.Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Kristi unpackages the real gift of Christmas using the beautiful words of the prophet Isaiah. This reflection and prayer will stir your longing for more of Jesus and lead you into deeper worship of the One we call Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, and Prince of Peace.Resources for this Episode:Surprising Joy: A Journey with Jesus for AdventDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
All of us long to know Jesus’ presence with us as we go about each day. Imagine sharing unbroken intimacy with the Good Shepherd during every mundane moment, challenging circumstance, and distressing emotion you experience. The good news is that Jesus desires to be with you always in the secret place of your innermost soul.Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi draw you into the reality that Jesus is with you here and now. You’ll discover practical ways to practice God’s presence (like scripture memorization and breath prayers) and get help sorting through the emotions of your inner world as you move toward abiding in Christ.Resources for this Episode:Breath Prayer GuidesAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Do you struggle to share your "big" emotions with God and others? Many of us are tempted to hide our feelings because we fear being "too much" or feel ashamed at some of the attitudes that lie underneath our hurts. Yet this keeps us from receiving the grace that all of our souls desperately need. Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill listens to Kristi with empathy and helps her see how her emotional honesty is a blessing to her relationship with God and those around her. You'll be equipped to integrate thinking with your feelings as you find safe people (like a spiritual director or soul friend) who can help you sort through your emotions as you become more healthy and whole like Jesus.Resources for this Episode:Attend a Soul Shepherding RetreatMeet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual DirectorEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
Most of us experience our dreams as a collection of random events that leave us feeling confused or distressed. But what if your dreams were more than something to brush off? Inviting the Spirit of Jesus into your dreams can spark deep conversation with him and lead to emotional health. Join us for this episode of Soul Talks as Bill and Kristi model a surprisingly easy and helpful method for discerning the psychological and possible spiritual meaning of your dreams. Through prayer and the help of others (e.g., a spiritual director or soul friends on retreat), you can learn to draw from the wisdom and direction that come to you in your sleep.Resources for this Episode:Attend a Soul Shepherding RetreatMeet with a Soul Shepherding Spiritual DirectorEarn a Certificate in Spiritual DirectionDream Interpretation ResourceDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul Talks
The birth of Jesus changed history forever, yet it might not feel very personal in your heart. Let's be honest — it's easy for Advent to become white noise. Thankfully you can have a fresh experience with Jesus when you enter the story through the eyes of a "soul friend" like Mary, Elizabeth, or even one of the animals!Tune in for this episode of Soul Talks as Kristi and Briana talk about becoming enthralled with Jesus during Christmastime through Surprising Joy Advent cards. You'll be inspired to get intentional about prayerful meditation and conversation with loved ones this Advent as you experience the impact it has made and continues to make on their family today.Resources for this Episode:Surprising Joy: A Journey with Jesus for AdventAttend a Soul Shepherding RetreatDonate to Support Soul Shepherding and Soul TalksRead Elizabeth’s Empathy Cured Mary’s Shame*The Surprising Joy Advent cards will be 20% off along with all the books and resources in the Soul Shepherding shop. The sale starts on Black Friday (Nov. 28th at 12am Pacific) and lasts through Cyber Monday (Dec. 1st at 11:59pm Pacific).




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