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The Editing Podcast
Author: Louise Harnby (fiction editor) and Denise Cowle (non-fiction editor)
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Join two professional editors, Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle, on The Editing Podcast for a regular exploration of practical tips and guidance for editors and proofreaders who want to improve their practice and grow their businesses.
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Denise and Louise reflect on the 2025 Chartered Institute of Editing and Proofreading (CIEP) conference.Listen to find out more aboutthe buzz at the conferencehow well the hybrid structure workedthe value of the editorial professionour core takeaways from the sessionsBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. Tier-2 patrons also receive bonus content for most episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Liv Cowle interviews Denise and Louise about their new book series, Notes from the Podcast.Listen to find out more aboutTurning 140+ episodes of audio content and written transcripts into a 5-book seriesOvercoming project overwhelmExtracting relevant content systematicallyRecognising the difference between content for listening and content for readingIdentifying our five core editorial themes: Foundations, Growth, Sustainability, Legacy and MarketingScope for introducing new themes and expanding the series in the futureWhich order to read the books in: A business journeyHow the series supports editorial business owners operating in a shifting landscapeThe benefits of sharing the self-publishing process with a partnerEditing our own work and building a systemBalancing the book publishing process with other business and personal commitmentsHow The Editing Podcast startedBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. Tier-2 patrons also receive bonus content for most episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Denise and Louise discuss why your editorial business offering might be ripe for some changes.Listen to find out more aboutSignals that it’s time to make changesWhat change looks likeHow to make change strategicallyResourceIs Your Website AI-Friendly? The 8-Point Checklist for Keeping AI Visitors Happy: https://www.orbitmedia.com/blog/ai-friendly-websites/Book series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. Tier-2 patrons also receive bonus content for most episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Explore a selection of the different types of materials you might consider working on if you’re an academic editor.Listen to find out more aboutBooks and monographsConference materials Grant proposalsJournal articlesPeer review reportsReference listsResearch reportsReview articlesTextbooks and handbooksTheses and dissertationsWhite papersEditorials and opinion piecesBook chapters Meta-analysesCase studiesBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. They also receive bonus content for some episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn about editorial reports, and whether you should provide them to clients. Listen to find out more aboutWhat an editorial report isWhy not all clients need editorial reportsWhat to include in an editorial reportHow long editorial reports take to writeWhy editors should create editorial reportsTips for creating effective editorial reportsCourse and report templateHow to Write the Perfect Fiction Editorial Report: Including a ready-to-go template that you can customize: www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/perfect-editorial-report.htmlBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. Tier-2 patrons also receive bonus content for most episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn how to find a professional academic editor or proofreader who's the ideal fit for you.Listen to find out more aboutDifferent levels of editingSearching editorial societies' directoriesInternet searchesAcademic networksSocial mediaSubject portfoliosSample editsTestimonialsEditorial societiesFind editors and proofreaders all over the globe: www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/editing-and-proofreading-societiesBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. They also receive bonus content for some episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Welcome to this sneak peek behind the curtain of our Patreon ‘Second Cup’ tier, where members get exclusive access to bonus episodes of The Editing Podcast.Patreon is the only place you will ever hear these bonus episodes, but we are making this one – and only this one - free to everyone, so you can hear what you’ll get if you join this tier. To access more exclusive content, sign up for A Second Cup at https://www.patreon.com/editingpodcast. In this bonus episode, your hosts discuss their personal approaches and experiences to building and updating their editorial-business websites.Questions we answerWhen did you start building your editing website?Would you do things differently if you were starting out now?Do you think having a website is a must-have?Do you think we're judged by our websites?How has search and AI affected the importance of having a website?Have you changed the way your website looks over the years?Do we tailor content to respect our potential clients?Whether we've made our websites more AI- as well as human-friendly?Do you get work through your website?Book series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn more about editorial business-owner websites, and when you should start building them.Listen to find out more aboutWhy having a website is importantCommon misconceptions about timingSigns you're ready to build your editorial websiteWhat if you're just starting out?Website timing in the context of career stagesDon’t wait for ‘perfect’Quick-action stepsSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. Tier-2 patrons also receive bonus content for most episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn how to make your academic editing business more visible. Listen to find out more aboutcontent marketingshowing rather than telling your skillsusing subject-based keywordsideas for titles for you to stealBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. They also receive bonus content for some episodes.patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingPost-productionLiv Cowle: livcowle.comMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn how to assess a non-fiction editing project with special guest Hester Higton.Listen to find out more aboutTime required for different aspects of a projectThe different parts of a projectThe different types of editingCounting and assigning timeThe order of editing workRecording project timeAbout Hester HigtonFind out more about Hester:Website: academicedit.co.ukEmail: hesterhigton@academicedit.co.ukBook series: Notes from the PodcastWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Find out more here: https://www.louiseharnbyproofreader.com/notes.htmlSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn about how to be an efficient editor, with guest Hester Higton.Listen to find out more aboutThe goals of efficient editingPreparing for efficient improvementsThe order for tackling a projectBatch editingTechnology for efficient editingMulti-author projectsResourcesResources mentioned in the showJack Lyon: Wildcard Cookbook for Microsoft Word: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wildcard-Cookbook-Microsoft-Word-Jack/dp/1434103986 Textexpander: https://textexpander.com/ Paul Beverley’s macros: https://www.archivepub.co.uk/menu.htmlAbout Hester HigtonFind out more about Hester:Website: academicedit.co.ukEmail: hesterhigton@academicedit.co.ukSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn about becoming a professional academic editor with guest Hester Higton.Listen to find out more aboutThe journey from academia to editingHow editors support academicsSpecific skills neededAcquiring trainingDifferent types and sources of clientsAcademic voiceEthical issues and AIAbout Hester HigtonFind out more about Hester:Website: academicedit.co.ukEmail: hesterhigton@academicedit.co.ukSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn how to hone your presentation skills at online and in-person conferences, professional awaydays and webinars.Listen to find out more aboutStarting with a strong titleMapping out the structureClarifying learning outcomesNumbering session sectionsKeeping slides declutteredOffering a transcriptMaking decisions about scriptingHandling questionsPractising out loudCrafting an introductionSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn about why including testimonials in your online spaces is likely to do lovely things for your editing and proofreading business.Listen to find out more aboutHow to ask for testimonialsMaking it easy for clientsEffective testimonialsWhere to put testimonialsVisibilityDifferent approaches to showcasing feedbackEmbedding testimonial-gathering into business practiceSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn how to create engaging titles for conference sessions, blog and podcast headings and email marketing subject lines.Listen to find out more aboutBeing specificUsing numbersBeing short and snappyChoosing verbs wiselyPiquing curiosityTargeting your audienceSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Russell Harper of The Chicago Manual of Style (CMOS) talks about the changes to the 18th edition.Listen to find out more aboutThe international appeal of CMOSBalancing editorial logic and real-world usageRevision decision-making processReversing stylistic decisions in CMOSCapitalization of identity markers and CMOSSinglular 'they' and CMOSFiction and creative genres in CMOS guidanceCitations and CMOSKeeping up to date with changes in the publishing worldSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Discover how to use a marketing buddy to conquer overwhelm and get your editing and proofreading business promotion moving.Listen to find out more aboutSharing the problem of marketing inertiaWhy feeling nervous about marketing with someone else can be empoweringFinding a marketing buddy: Forums, groups and professional development eventsMaking space for marketing anxietyResearching your preferred promotion methodsPlanning business promotionIdeas for you to work on together: Content, events and presentationsSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
How can human editors and proofreaders remain relevant when AI capability is improving exponentially? Listen to find out more about:Emotional intelligence and sensitivityThe ability to be subjectiveFocusing on the writer as well as the writingService opportunitiesBeing present in personUnique personal and business identitiesSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Learn about what to check when proofreading page proofs prior to publication.Listen to find out more aboutWhat designed page proofs areWhat to check in the prelimsWhat to check in the main textWhat to check in the end matterWhich sections to check firstSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Find out about 5 core character roles within a novel, and how the purpose they serve ensures the story stays focused.Listen to find out more about:5 key character roles in fictionThe character role hierarchyWhy protagonists aren't always heroesWhy antagonists aren't always villainsWhy even minor characters should have a functionHow understanding the hierarchy helps authors and editors give appropriate head-space to the appropriate charactersSign up for alerts about our publicationsWant to hone your editorial business skills? Our actionable guides and workbooks will help you plan and implement a programme for business growth and development. Sign up for alerts and we'll let you know when our publications are live and how to order: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/646bf79c644615ff2d1ada1aSupport The Editing PodcastTip your hosts: Support Louise and Denise with a one-off tip of your choosing.theeditingpodcast.captivate.fm/supportJoin our Patreon community: Our patrons benefit from access to PDF transcripts for episodes featuring just Louise and Denise, and for some of our guest episodes. patreon.com/editingpodcastDenise and LouiseDenise Cowle: denisecowleeditorial.comLouise Harnby: harnby.co/fiction-editingMusic credit'Vivacity’ by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/4593-vivacityLicence: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
I could not be happier with this podcast. The hosts drop knowledge bombs on the listener while being friendly, funny, and relatable. Plus, their accents are delightful. Five out of five stars!