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DOOMER V. BLOOMER
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Doomer v. Bloomer is a podcast about the eternal struggle between hope and despair. Each episode Franz, playing the optimistic, utopian bloomer, will face off against Kami, playing the jaded and cynical doomer. It’s up to you to decide who wins.
We’ll discuss current events, leftist theory, praxis, and history, and feature special guests with relative expertise in a wide range of subjects.
We’ll discuss current events, leftist theory, praxis, and history, and feature special guests with relative expertise in a wide range of subjects.
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As you may have been able to guess by the long, unannounced hiatus, this project has reached its conclusion. It is no more. Here is one last DvB episode for you to listen to and enjoy. But worry not, this is not the last you’ve heard from Kami and Franz. Listen in to find out what we’ll each be doing next and where to find our future projects. <3
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Check out one of the latest podcasts to join to the Channel Zero Network: You Don't Need Permission! Franz also appears on a couple episodes in season one, so look for those as well :)
- Why is there a need for revolutionary change? Can't capitalism simply be reined in by governments? Turns out the answer is no, actually. Joshua talks with Franz of the podcast Doomer V Bloomer about why reform is impossible and revolution is the only way. -
- For a more in-depth analysis on how business interests manipulate public policy, check out Srsly Wrong's episode Business Confidence and Capital Strikes: https://srslywrong.com/podcast/231-business-confidence-capital-strikes-w-michael-schwartz-and-kevin-a-young/ -
- You Don't Need Permission is now proud to be a member of the Channel Zero Podcast Network. https://channelzeronetwork.com/ -
- Theme music is "You Can (Mass Trespass 1932)" by Chumbawamba, used (ironically) with permission.
In this episode we talk about (okay, mostly complain about) the anti-civilization and anti-utopian pamphlet: Desert by Anonymous. Is this a doomer text, or can both bloomer and doomer agree that it goes too far? We tried to be fair with our critiques but sectarianism got the better of us and we engage in some shit talking, please forgive us.
References:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert
https://organisemagazine.org.uk/2019/10/03/desert-review/
https://anarchistnews.org/content/critique-desert
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00177-3
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/murray-bookchin-the-population-myth
https://www.iias.asia/sites/default/files/nwl_article/2019-05/IIAS_NL49_1213.pdf
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300182910/against-grain
https://salvage.zone/mieville_all.html
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Your doomer and bloomer hosts are joined by Aly, one of our frequent correspondents, to discuss populism, the far right and the role neoliberal hegemony plays in enabling fascism. The discussion is heavily focused around the book Reactionary Democracy by Aurelien Mondon & Aaron Winter.
References:
reactionarydemocracy.com
www.versobooks.com/books/3173-reactionary-democracy
https://soundcloud.com/12rulesforwhat
https://youtu.be/KYG7-d_Q9zU
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What's the deal with empathy? Can empathy be used as a force for good or is it too affected by our negative biases? What are empaths and why are they so self important?
References:
Against Empathy by Paul Bloom
https://direct.mit.edu/jocn/article/22/5/985/4845/The-Blame-Game-The-Effect-of-Responsibility-and
The Empath's Survival Guide: Life Strategies for Sensitive People by Judith Orloff
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-the-womens-war-59464911/
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This is a main plot episode, not a filler episode, folks. Franz and Kami talk about dystopia and utopia as genres and lenses for understanding the world and how these concepts intersect with doom and bloom. Part two in our informal series on science fiction.
References:
https://communemag.com/dystopias-now/
https://salvage.zone/mieville_all.html
https://soundcloud.com/doomervbloomer/38-space-exploration
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326693897_Recycled_Dystopias_Cyberpunk_and_the_End_of_History
https://www.versobooks.com/books/2250-utopia
https://library.uniteddiversity.coop/More_Books_and_Reports/Open_Veins_of_Latin_America.pdf
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It may be an old meme already by the time you're hearing this, but Kami and Franz will give you the doomer and bloomer perspectives on the Game Stop short squeeze so far.
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As our own little form of escapism from the current political turmoil, we explore the question: should outer space be abolished? We discuss sci-fi, space travel and technology. Kami comes out as a bloomer and Franz comes out as a luddite.
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https://thenewinquiry.com/manifesto-of-the-committee-to-abolish-outer-space/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/business/rocket-lab-debris-launch-traffic-scn/index.html
https://soundcloud.com/doomervbloomer/21-ishmael-the-anti-civ-gorilla-w-aly
https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-110-the-shiny-object-psychology-of-american-capitalist-innovation
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-34324772 [VW emissions test scandal]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y&ab_channel=DeepMind
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We recorded this the weekend before protests started in Kenosha, and now its feels silly to be releasing an episode about the election but here it is. We chat about our predictions for the election, election fraud, contested elections, QAnon, etc.
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Delivering for America Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8015/
Trump support in the military: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/12/17/half-of-active-duty-service-members-are-unhappy-with-trump-new-military-times-poll-shows/
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A discussion of Joe Rogan's podcast, his "centrist" ideology, how rhetorical strategies falsely present his ideas as neutral, what the guests he decides to platform say about his own politics, and the role he plays in the The Discourse.
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Abigail Shrier the transphobe: https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a33391944/joe-rogan-abigail-shrier-interview-transphobia/
JRE goes Spotify exclusive: https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/joe-rogan-signs-exclusive-100-million-podcast-deal-with-spotify/ar-BB14jDHC
Candace Owens is trash: https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/candace-owens-geo
Legalize gay weed: https://www.quora.com/What-does-legalize-gay-weed-mean?share=1
DvB ep about Andy Ngo: https://www.patreon.com/posts/39580265
Andy Ngo is a threat to our community and provides kill lists for Atomwaffen: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/alt-right-antifa-death-threats-doxxing-quillette-a8966176.html
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We probably all known someone who’s spent a little too much time being an edge lord online, hell, I’ve been there. Kami and Franz are joined by special guest and edge lord Kendall to talk about this phenomenon. Come learn about the specific memes and online personas that love to hate and hate to love and what we think that says about the left.
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Roles are reversed in this weeks one year anniversary episode of Doomer v. Bloomer. Franz is feeling the doom and Kami is experiencing some bloom, how will our podcast cope? We talk burnout, collapse, hope and nihilism and video games.
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Previous burnout episode: https://soundcloud.com/doomervbloomer/14-doom-and-burnout
Referenced doomer article: https://eand.co/if-life-feels-bleak-its-because-our-civilization-is-beginning-to-collapse-a787d62d714b
Scott Crow & Hurricane Katrina: https://b-ok.cc/book/2334898/da3153
Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution: https://libcom.org/library/mutual-aid-peter-kropotkin
Eduardo Galeano: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/187149.Open_Veins_of_Latin_America
Stronger (by Kelly Clarkson, not Adele or Britney): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn676-fLq7I
Sound effects: https://freesound.org/people/Foreman_Griller/sounds/394839/
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We took some time to research the ways the state has used grand juries and other legal tactics to suppress anti-authoritarian and liberation uprisings in recent history. Hopefully some of this information can be helpful to people preparing for the backlash to the current movement for Black liberation and against police.
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SHOW NOTES:
follow [unicornriot.ninja](https://unicornriot.ninja/) and itsgoingdown.org for current news and livestreams
Places to throw your money at:
[https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/](https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/)
[https://www.northstarhealthcollective.org/donate](https://www.northstarhealthcollective.org/donate)
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLWGTQIe3967hdc9RSxBq5s6KKZHe-3_mWp5oemd7OA/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLWGTQIe3967hdc9RSxBq5s6KKZHe-3_mWp5oemd7OA/edit)
Grand Juries:
[http://grandjuryresistance.org/files/Grand_Jury_Brochure.pdf](http://grandjuryresistance.org/files/Grand_Jury_Brochure.pdf)
[https://cldc.org/grand-juries/](https://cldc.org/grand-juries/)
[https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/10/03/grandjuries-infosheet.pdf](https://www.indybay.org/uploads/2008/10/03/grandjuries-infosheet.pdf)
Ferguson:
[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ferguson-protesters-st-louis-county-municipal-court_n_574855bfe4b055bb1171e652](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ferguson-protesters-st-louis-county-municipal-court_n_574855bfe4b055bb1171e652)
How to blur faces: [https://thenextweb.com/basics/2020/06/04/how-to-blur-faces-and-remove-metadata-from](https://thenextweb.com/basics/2020/06/04/how-to-blur-faces-and-remove-metadata-from)
Standing Rock:
[https://waterprotectorlegal.org/](https://waterprotectorlegal.org/)
[http://antirepressioncrew.org/](http://antirepressioncrew.org/)
J20:
[https://crimethinc.com/2019/01/30/weve-got-your-back-the-story-of-the-j20-defense-an-epic-tale-of-repression-and-solidarity](https://crimethinc.com/2019/01/30/weve-got-your-back-the-story-of-the-j20-defense-an-epic-tale-of-repression-and-solidarity)
Community defense:
[https://itsgoingdown.org/anti-racist-neighborhood-watch-manual-resource-toolkit/](https://itsgoingdown.org/anti-racist-neighborhood-watch-manual-resource-toolkit/)
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Transcript:
As protests heat up, the Channel Zero Network has some reminders on how to stay safe while out in the streets.
Bring buddies and don't let them out of the range of your voice.
Write a legal aid number on your body so you can get help if you get arrested. Be sure to know your buddies legal names and birthdays. You'll need these to help find them if they're arrested.
When moving around, walk don't run. Stick together.
Turn off your phone while out in the street to avoid surveillance of your location and so as not to have your unlocked phone taken by the authorities or other bad actors.
Try your best not to stick out in a crowd. Cover up tattoos with clothing or body paint. Cops will use footage from the protest to try to identify you.
Wear clothes that are good for moving quickly. Avoid wearing jewelry and wear closed toe shoes.
Wear your mask at all times, even if you're talking to someone in order to guard yourself against surveillance, covid 19, pepper spray, and tear gas.
Avoid wearing contact lenses. Bring goggles of some kind in case of tear gas or pepper spray.
Consider wearing bike helmets as police often cause head injuries with batons and other weapons.
Don't take photos or video of people doing anything illegal or with their face uncovered. Whenever possible, film the cops, not the protesters.
ONLY PUT WATER IN YOUR EYES. Don't use milk or baking soda or anything else.Clean water is the safest thing to use at a protest. If possible, bring a water bottle to drink from and a water bottle to flush out eyes of any comrades who are maced or tear-gassed.
And white comrades are encouraged to follow the lead of black and brown comrades, as they bear the brunt of state brutality.
Follow Unicorn Riot and Channel Zero Network member It's Going Down for ongoing updates. The Channel Zero Network sends y'all solidarity. Stay safe out there and never stop fighting for a better world.
Revolutions are hard, let's figure out why.
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A straight man and a lesbian tell you how they feel about masculinity
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This week's episode is a special collaboration with fellow Channel Zero Network show Coffee with Comrades. We discuss what mourning can look like in the wake of a global pandemic, impending economic collapse, and climate change, how we're responding to these circumstances, and how the present moment can either lull us into complacency or catapult us into drastic social change.
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We had a blast recording with Pearson from Coffee with Comrades, and if you don't already listen check it out!
http://coffeewithcomrades.com/
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This week Franz and Kami are joined by Zoe Cohen of NISEI, a fan-run organization responsible for keeping Android: Netrunner alive. Netrunner is a card game set in a dystopian future where megacorporations control almost every aspect of daily life. Sound familiar?
We'll talk about Netrunner the game, non commercial game development, what science fiction and cyberpunk can tell us about the present, and gaming communities.
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NISEI official: http://nisei.net/
How to play video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dtvARFeCvw
How to play book: https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/android-netrunner/support/android-netrunner-core-rules.pdf
Play online: http://jinteki.net/
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Welcome to another episode of Doomer v. Bloomer, "Franz explains shit to Kami and audience" edition. This week the topic is economic collapse, the death of neoliberalism and how the economy works 101. Everything you never wanted to know about monetary economics and fiscal policy and how it relates to a global pandemic.
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Some sources:
[https://urpe.org/2020/04/02/covid-19-crisis-has-exposed-absurdities-of-neoliberalism-that-doesnt-mean-itll-destroy-it/]
[http://new-compass.net/articles/return-capitalisms-contradictions]
[https://urpe.org/2020/04/03/the-need-for-class-race-and-gender-sensitive-policies-to-fight-the-covid-19-crisis/]
[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/technology/coronavirus-masks-shortage.html]
[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/economy/coronavirus-recession.html?smid=fb-share&fbclid=IwAR0_wW5lg1XocE_OrfwPjdYiCVGr2umTuJrOpJxsjr_kZo2Oz5c5M4oqUNE]
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I mean, what the **** else are we gonna do?
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Peace from Bellingham.✌