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What does free speech have to do with economics? A lot more than you might think. In this episode, Gene Tunny is joined by John Humphreys to explore free speech as a core institutional pillar of prosperous societies. From Mao’s Great Leap Forward to modern Australia, they show how restricting speech distorts incentives, breaks feedback loops, and leads to catastrophic policy failure. Even well-intentioned speech laws, they argue, can have dangerous unintended consequences.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. Key takeaways (What you’ll learn)Why economists see free speech as a feedback mechanism, similar to prices in marketsHow restricting speech shifts incentives from truth-seeking to conformityWhy censorship often hides problems until they become crisesHow historical disasters, like China’s Great Leap Forward, illustrate the cost of silenced feedbackWhy tolerating error is essential for democracy, learning, and social progressTimestampsFree Speech and Its Importance (0:00)The Role of Free Speech in Democracy (4:16)Historical Context and Legal Perspectives (9:00)Tolerance and the Enlightenment (11:03)The Impact of Free Speech Restrictions (16:02)The Politics of Free Speech Legislation (20:21)The Evolution of Anti-Speech Legislation (22:15)The Role of Multiculturalism and Social Cohesion (22:31)The Future of Free Speech Legislation (32:45)Links relevant to the conversationGene and John’s recent Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance livestreams on free speech:https://www.youtube.com/live/ZdQ2y96QakI?si=cCKdaqylXJ03FgFahttps://www.youtube.com/live/fvd3usSMT3o?si=oIr7UJrO9C53Fi4cChris Berg’s Institutional Theory of Free Speech:https://chrisberg.org/2017/02/an-institutional-theory-of-free-speech/The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure:https://www.amazon.com.au/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224897Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Auckland’s upzoning reforms have become a global case study in housing policy. Gene Tunny and John August dig into the data behind claims that loosening zoning rules boosted housing supply and eased rent pressures. They explore the statistical methods used, the critiques raised by sceptics, and the limits of zoning reform on its own. The episode also examines infrastructure constraints and whether complementary policies are essential for real housing affordability gains.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsAuckland Upzoning and Housing Affordability (0:00)Introduction of John August and Initial Discussion (3:41)Statistical Analysis and Critiques (3:59)Cameron Murray and Tim Helm’s analysis (7:33)Broader Economic Context and Infrastructure (25:23)Conclusion and Future Directions (46:23)TakeawaysRigorous statistical studies find a strong link between upzoning and increased housing consents in Auckland.Critics argue that zoning reform alone cannot overcome development cycles, infrastructure bottlenecks, or land banking.Development approvals are a useful, though imperfect, proxy for actual housing supply growth.Infrastructure provision is crucial—densification without follow-through can reduce amenity and limit affordability gains.Zoning reform works best as part of a broader policy package, potentially including land value taxation to fund essential infrastructure.Links relevant to the conversationThe impact of upzoning on housing construction in Auckland by Ryan Greenaway-McGrevy and Peter C.B. Phillips:https://cowles.yale.edu/sites/default/files/2024-02/p1863.pdfZoning and housing supply: empirics in search of a theory by Tim Helm and Cameron Murray:https://ace2025.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/01-Tim-ACE-2025-Tim-Helm-TAKE-II.pdfLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Show host Gene Tunny speaks with cybersecurity expert Bruce Schneier of the Harvard Kennedy School about his new book, Rewiring Democracy, which explores the profound and often underappreciated ways AI is already reshaping democratic institutions. From AI-powered political campaigns and legislative drafting to citizen engagement and court systems, Schneier lays out both the potential and the peril of this technological transformation.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsIntroduction (0:00)Bruce Schneier's New Book "Rewiring Democracy" (1:44)Impact of AI on Democracy and Humanity (4:25)AI in Government Administration and Courts (9:12)Examples of AI in Citizen Assemblies and Public AI (12:02)Challenges and Opportunities with AI in Democracy (18:10)Regulation and Accountability of AI (22:04)TakeawaysAI is already transforming democracy. It plays roles in political campaigning, lawmaking, courtrooms, and public service—even if we don’t always notice it.The real danger is corporate control. Schneier stresses that AI’s trajectory is largely shaped by a small group of powerful tech companies and calls for “public AI” as a counterbalance.AI is a tool, not a force. Whether AI supports democracy or authoritarianism depends entirely on how humans use it.Citizens can be empowered by AI. Projects from CalMatters and make.org show how AI can help amplify civic voices and improve transparency.Urgent regulation is needed. Schneier argues that AI, like cars or planes, must be regulated for safety, transparency, and accountability—especially to prevent manipulation and abuse.Links relevant to the conversationBruce’s book - Rewiring Democracy: How AI Will Transform Our Politics, Government, and Citizenshiphttps://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262049948/rewiring-democracy/Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Gene responds to thoughtful listener feedback on record-low fertility rates and explores why childcare, IVF, and returning to work for fortysomething mothers can be so economically challenging. He then travels back to ancient Rome to unpack a curious moment after Augustus’s victory over Antony and Cleopatra, when treasure flooded into Rome, interest rates plummeted, and land values soared—and explains how this fits neatly into modern monetary economics. Finally, Gene revisits remarkable exchanges between Milton Friedman, Alan Greenspan, and Ronald Reagan that shed fresh light on the perennial debate over the gold standard.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsIntroduction (0:00)Childcare Costs and Staffing Ratios (5:15)IVF Costs and Penalties for Women Returning to Work (9:52)Rise of Singleton Households and Economics of Smaller Populations (17:32)Economic Impact of Ancient Rome’s Influx of Gold and Treasure (22:56)Milton Friedman and the Gold Standard (42:01)TakeawaysChildcare costs are structurally high due to labour intensity, mandated staff–child ratios, and qualification requirements.The “motherhood penalty” is real and appears driven partly by human capital loss during career breaks and partly by occupational choices for flexibility.Augustus’s influx of treasure into Rome increased real money balances, pushing interest rates from ~12% to ~4% and boosting land prices—an excellent real-world example of short-run monetary non-neutrality.Milton Friedman and Alan Greenspan both advised Ronald Reagan NOT to pursue a gold standard, arguing fiscal discipline and controlled monetary growth matter more than metal backing.Links relevant to the conversationReferenced Previous EpisodesIs Gold Flashing a Warning Sign? https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/is-gold-flashing-a-warning-sign-ep303The Great Baby Busthttps://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/the-great-baby-bust-why-it-happened-and-what-it-means-for-us-ep300The Gender Pay Debate: Understanding the Factors Behind the Gap w/ Dr Leonora Risse - EP230https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/the-gender-pay-debate-understanding-the-factors-behind-the-gap-w-dr-leonora-risse-ep230The Gender Pay Gap w/ Dr Leonora Rissehttps://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/the-gender-pay-gap-with-dr-leonora-risseChina’s falling population & global population update - EP174https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/chinas-falling-population-global-population-update-ep174U.S. Census data on rising singleton householdshttps://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/06/more-than-a-quarter-all-households-have-one-person.html “The Motherhood Wage Penalty: A Meta-Analysis” – Social Science Research paperhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X20300144Florida childcare staffing ratioshttps://www.elcslc.org/parents/vpk-locator/licensing-files-what-to-look-for/state-of-florida-mandated-adult-to-child-ratios/Australian childcare qualification requirementshttps://earlychildhood.qld.gov.au/careers/qualifications-and-pathways/approved-qualificationsBooks MentionedTom Holland’s translation of Suetonius – Lives of the Caesarshttps://www.amazon.com.au/Lives-Caesars-Suetonius/dp/0241186897Sebastian Mallaby – The Man Who Knew: The Life and Times of Alan Greenspanhttps://www.amazon.com.au/Man-Who-Knew-Times-Greenspan/dp/0143111094Mark Blaug – Economic Theory in Retrospecthttps://www.amazon.com.au/Economic-Theory-Retrospect-Universiteit-Amsterdam/dp/0521577012Cassius Dio – Roman Historyhttps://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/e/roman/texts/cassius_dio/51*.htmlLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Gold has doubled in price in less than two years—so what exactly is happening? Gene Tunny and John Humphreys break down the economic and geopolitical forces driving the surge, from inflation fears and rising global debt to BRICS nations buying massive amounts of gold. The conversation also explores whether a new gold-backed currency could challenge US dollar dominance.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. Time stamps00:00 – Introduction01:30 – Why gold is surging04:30 – The role of inflation fears & global debt07:15 – BRICS gold buying and the idea of a gold-backed currency12:00 – Is a gold-backed currency workable?16:00 – Gold vs. fiat currencies: long-term stability22:30 – Geopolitical implications of a shift away from the USD26:00 – Gene’s clarification of Ken Rogoff’s perspective28:30 – Outro TakeawaysGold has doubled in price in under two years, suggesting deep market concerns about inflation, debt, geopolitics, or structural distrust of fiat currencies.BRICS nations—particularly China—are buying unprecedented amounts of gold, possibly preparing for a commodity-backed settlement currency.A gold- or commodity-backed currency is politically useful for BRICS, as it may help overcome trust deficits relative to the US.Gold standards constrain monetary policy, reducing the ability to monetize debt or respond flexibly to recessions. Gene and John debate whether this constraint is feature or bug.LinksGold charts:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TamqJ1GOpXxveAVLRS0UJnb7U9GyRATX/view?usp=sharingATA livestream on 6 November:https://www.youtube.com/live/gSVJ9ZU6lC4?si=8sXvajwG5cdUk85fLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLORED Promo code: 10EXPLORED
“Make things again” — it’s a powerful slogan. But what does it really mean for Australia’s economy, workers, and national security? Show host Gene Tunny and Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance Chief Economist John Humphreys dig into the heart of the debate, from the politics of nostalgia to the realities of automation and global trade. A thought-provoking conversation about whether Australia can, or should, bring manufacturing back home.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. Timestamps00:00 – Introduction – Why “Make Things Again” is back in the headlines01:40 – From CIS Consilium to the manufacturing debate06:15 – The political appeal of “making things again”12:50 – Australia’s car industry and economic reality16:55 – What policy tools are we really talking about?21:45 – The energy policy civil war on the right27:50 – Legitimate arguments for tariffs: revenue & security31:30 – National security, China, and economic resilience40:10 – Automation and the meaning of work44:55 – The future of the centre-right48:25 – Wrap-up: where the new right might go49:00 – Outro – national security, critical minerals & what’s nextTakeawaysAutomation has changed everything – Even if manufacturing expands, the old factory jobs aren’t coming back; future growth will be in advanced, high-value sectors.Politics vs economics – “Made in Australia” is powerful politically, but protectionism risks higher costs and lower productivity.National security is a legitimate concern – But it needs a framework; not everything can be justified in its name.Energy costs are critical – High power prices are a big constraint on manufacturing.Meaningful work matters – Many calls for reindustrialisation reflect cultural and social concerns about meaning, not just economics.Links relevant to the conversationATA livestream of Made in Australia debate || ATA #26:https://www.youtube.com/live/tvBKU7-Ce7E?si=g-Mr8AlL3-wDxNlEAndrew Hastie MP’s call to make things again:https://youtube.com/shorts/9NQGcBnaI8I?si=h4jwFskB2byxJ6YySimon Cowan’s opinion piece “The hard truth: why the government should let this smelter fai”:https://www.cis.org.au/commentary/opinion/the-hard-truth-why-the-government-should-let-this-smelter-fail/Productivity Commission paper “Guardrails for modern industry policy”:https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries-and-research/guardrails-industry-policy/Richard Holden’s AFR article “Labor needs a strategy to say where minerals bailouts stop” (paywalled):https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/labor-needs-a-strategy-to-say-where-minerals-bailouts-stop-20251012-p5n1szJohn Quiggin’s article “If government bailouts of companies are the new normal, we need a better strategic vision”:https://theconversation.com/if-government-bailouts-of-companies-are-the-new-normal-we-need-a-better-strategic-vision-267111Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Venture capitalist Aman Verjee joins Gene Tunny to explore whether artificial intelligence is fuelling the next great economic bubble. Drawing lessons from history—from the 1840s railway boom to the 1990s dot-com surge—Aman argues that even frothy markets can spark long-term progress. The conversation also covers AI’s impact on jobs, productivity, and how policy can nurture innovation without strangling it.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsIntroduction and Guest Overview (0:00)Aman Verjee's Background and Experience (2:26)Aman’s Role and Responsibilities at Practical Venture Capital (5:50)AI and Financial Bubbles (10:01)AI in Business and Everyday Life (13:30)Impact of AI on Jobs and the Economy (17:29)US Economy and Government Shutdown (21:27)Policies to Boost Productivity (27:29)Aman Verjee's Book on Financial Bubbles (37:08)Conclusion and Contact Information (43:30)TakeawaysAI may be in a “frothy” phase but not necessarily a bubble—valuations are high, yet many firms are potentially transformative.Past bubbles often produced some lasting value: the 1990s tech and 1840s railway booms birthed major industries that delivered lasting benefits after crashes.AI will reshape, not erase, jobs—disruption creates new roles as others disappear, echoing past technological revolutions.Policy matters: lower regulation, smarter taxation, and education reform are crucial for productivity growth.History’s warning: bubbles fueled by debt (like the 2000s US housing boom and 1880s Melbourne land boom) are far more damaging than equity-driven ones.Links relevant to the conversationAman Verjee’s firm: https://practicalvc.com/Aman’s trading places podcast:https://practicalvc.com/trading-places/Regarding Melbourne house prices: “Melbourne house prices fell 51% in real terms (prices minus inflation) in the 1890s”https://www.morningstar.com.au/personal-finance/lessons-from-australias-largest-property-bustsLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Australia’s fertility rate is now at a record low of 1.48 babies per woman. Gene Tunny and John Humphreys discuss the sharp fall in fertility rates worldwide and what it means for Australia’s economy and society. They explore how declining birth rates threaten our economy, government budgets, and social cohesion, and whether migration, pro-natalist policies, or cultural change can reverse this trend.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsIntroduction to Episode on Decline in Fertility Rates and Economic Implications (0:00)Discussion with John Humphreys on Fertility Rates (5:12)Economic and Social Forces Driving Down Fertility (14:16)Impact of Low Fertility Rates on Asset Prices and Social Cohesion (15:50)Challenges of Migration and University Policies (20:25)Historical and Sociological Factors Influencing Fertility Rates (29:57)Potential Solutions and Policy Recommendations (40:15)TakeawaysAustralia’s fertility rate has fallen to 1.48 births per woman—its lowest level ever and far below the replacement rate of 2.1.Migration isn’t a sustainable fix: fertility rates are also falling in nearly every country, even traditional migrant sources.Economic and cultural shifts—urbanisation, delayed marriage, individualism, and welfare-state expansion—have weakened traditional social structures supporting families.The Baby Bonus experiment of the 2000s temporarily lifted fertility, but its effects were uneven and costly.Long-term implications include labour shortages, rising welfare burdens, asset price declines, and profound cultural change.Links relevant to the conversationABS births data:https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/births-australia/2024e61 analysis of the Baby Bonus:https://e61.in/australias-fertility-decline-evidence-and-policy-experience/Birthgap documentary:https://youtu.be/m2GeVG0XYTc?si=vuZvBqwVkZn3q1oZLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Shutdowns are back—and Gene delves into the reasons, ramifications, and rhetoric. This episode examines the latest U.S. government shutdown, its potential to outlast previous ones, and whether it could signal deeper structural changes—or just more political theatre.Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsUS Government Shutdown Overview (0:00)Political Causes and Consequences (2:47)Impact on Federal Workers and Services (6:44)Economic and Financial Implications (10:22)Data Blackout and Market Trust (19:25)Political Dynamics and Potential Resolutions (21:07)Potential Long-Term Economic and Market Impacts (23:38)Call for Public Input and Conclusion (24:02)TakeawaysThe shutdown has happened due to a failed continuing resolution, not the debt ceiling—this time, it’s a clash over health insurance subsidies and spending on undocumented immigrants.Shutdowns rarely alter the long-term trend in government spending, as federal outlays tend to rebound after the shutdown ends.Federal workers often get back pay, but contractors do not—highlighting real economic pain for many.Economic impact is limited and short-term, though the longer this drags on, the greater the potential for serious consequences.This shutdown might be different, as political polarisation has deepened and there are hints of a broader agenda to shrink government permanently.Links relevant to the conversationCBO report on the 2019 shutdown:https://www.cbo.gov/publication/54937CBS News report “Who gets back pay and who doesn't after a government shutdown?”https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government-shutdown-contract-worker-back-pay/David Wessel’s Brookings article “What is a government shutdown?”:https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-is-a-government-shutdown-and-why-are-we-likely-to-have-another-one/J.P. Morgan note “How does a potential U.S. government shutdown impact markets?”:https://am.jpmorgan.com/au/en/asset-management/adv/insights/market-insights/market-updates/on-the-minds-of-investors/how-does-us-government-shutdown-impact-markets/Emily Jashinsky’s video “Democrats LOSE IT over sombrero meme as Trump Unleashes 'Doge 2.0'”https://youtu.be/JQCg-NuTAYI?si=s7eS7VgBH43Ab8VDBernie Sanders and AOC video on the shutdown:https://youtu.be/fqWsPk7QO24?si=1RBjjEQogMMoLCzrRelevant previous Economics Explored episodes:Debt, Inflation & Unrest: Western Warnings - ep297https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/debt-inflation-unrest-western-warnings-ep297US Debt Ceiling: Why Trump is Right to Call for its Abolition & Gene’s Experience with Aussie Debt Ceiling - EP268https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/us-debt-ceiling-why-trump-is-right-to-call-for-its-abolition-genes-experience-with-aussie-debt-ceiling-ep268Is Uncle Sam Running a Ponzi Scheme with the National Debt? w/ Dr Dan Mitchell - EP235https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/is-uncle-sam-running-a-ponzi-scheme-with-the-national-debt-w-dr-dan-mitchell-ep235Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
What does net zero really mean, and what will it take to get there? In this episode, highlights from past guests reveal the full spectrum of views—from urgent calls for climate action to scepticism about costs and feasibility. With perspectives on extreme weather, carbon pricing, nuclear energy, coal, and productivity trade-offs, this episode cuts to the heart of the net-zero debate. Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com. TimestampsEconomic Impact of Climate Change with Nikki Hutley (0:00)Defining Net Zero with Tony Wood (8:56)Criticism of Net Zero by Senator Matt Canavan (24:04)Challenges of Meeting Australia’s 2035 Emissions Targets with John Humphreys (39:06)TakeawaysThe cost of inaction versus transition costs—Nicki Hutley warns that extreme weather and health impacts already impose huge economic costs, and she argues the costs of inaction outweigh the costs of action.Technology is key—Tony Wood from the Grattan Institute stresses the need for innovation in batteries, hydrogen, soil carbon, and carbon capture.Scepticism about global commitments—Senator Matt Canavan doubts countries like China and India will follow through, arguing Australia risks self-harm.Productivity at risk—John Humphreys warns ambitious emissions targets could de-industrialise Australia and hurt long-term growth.The debate remains unresolved—balancing economic prosperity with climate goals is still one of the defining challenges of our age.Links relevant to the conversationAustralian Taxpayers’ Alliance Livestream of 18 September 2025 (which shows the emission reduction charts Gene refers to in this episode):https://www.youtube.com/live/8YxnRT_YD50?si=_A1udQmCag3dMtyCPrevious Economics Explored episodes, including the highlights from this episode:https://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/climate-change-with-nicki-hutley-from-deloitte-access-economicshttps://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/cop26-climate-change-summit-with-tony-wood-grattan-institutehttps://economics-explained.simplecast.com/episodes/aussie-senator-matt-canavan-cop26-dissenting-voices-part-2Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Gene Tunny and John Humphreys unpack the economic troubles brewing in the UK, France, and the US—rising debt, social unrest, inflation, and faltering productivity. They explore why bond markets are sounding alarms, why governments are struggling to respond, and what this all means for Australia. The episode draws urgent lessons from these fiscal failures, with stark warnings for what lies ahead if policy inertia continues. Among other issues, they discuss Gary Stevenson’s proposal for a wealth tax in the UK. Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com.This episode was recorded on Thursday, 18 September 2025. TimestampsEconomic Challenges in Major Western Economies (0:00)Discussion on UK Economic Turmoil (2:31)Impact of Bond Market on UK Government (7:35)Comparison with France and the US (16:43)Lessons for Australia (35:29)Impact of Political Polarisation (43:55)Potential Solutions and Challenges (44:15)Global Economic Repercussions (44:49)Conclusion and Final Thoughts (46:24)TakeawaysThe UK’s fiscal crisis is deepening with stalled per capita GDP, rising debt, and bond markets losing confidence.France is politically paralysed amid fiscal deficits and bond yields now surpassing Italy’s—an unprecedented shift.The US faces stagflation risks, with inflation ticking back up and concerns about economic growth.Productivity stagnation is the root problem across Western economies, fueling deficits and weakening growth.Australia must learn from others' mistakes, avoiding unsustainable spending and instead boosting productivity.Links relevant to the conversationSlides with charts referred to this episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZMkunGxYj57TnCajOxvMcTEh0fQj0y5L/view?usp=sharingAustralian Taxpayers’ Alliance Livestream of 18 September 2025:https://www.youtube.com/live/8YxnRT_YD50?si=_A1udQmCag3dMtyCLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Show host Gene Tunny breaks down why price controls are one of the most consistently failed economic policies. Using vivid historical examples from the 1970s US, the Soviet Union’s command economy, and Venezuela’s toilet paper crisis, he illustrates how interfering with the price mechanism leads to shortages, inefficiency, and unintended consequences. Gene would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. You can email him via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsIntroduction to the Podcast and Episode Theme (0:00)Price Controls and Their Economic Implications (2:47)President Nixon's Wage and Price Controls (8:53)The Soviet Union's Central Planning System (18:20)Economic Inefficiency in the Soviet Steel Industry (29:24)Venezuela's Toilet Paper Crisis (31:57)TakeawaysPrice controls disrupt vital economic signals, leading to misallocation of resources and market inefficiency.Nixon’s wage and price freeze in the 1970s led to empty supermarket shelves, black markets, and farmers slaughtering livestock to cut their losses.Soviet central planning failed due to the absence of price signals, leading to constant shortages—even of basic goods like meat and bread.Venezuela’s price caps on essentials like toilet paper created massive shortages and forced the government to import millions of rolls.The price mechanism acts as a societal dashboard, helping balance supply and demand more efficiently than central planning or rationing.Links relevant to the conversationBen Bernanke’s book – 21st Century Monetary Policyhttps://www.amazon.com.au/21st-Century-Monetary-Policy-Inflation/dp/1324020466BBC News Article on Venezuela's Toilet Paper Crisis: "Venezuela aims to end toilet paper shortage"https://www.bbc.com/news/business-22621833Bread and Autocracy: Food, Politics, and Security in Putin’s Russiahttps://www.amazon.com.au/Bread-Autocracy-Politics-Security-Putins/dp/019768436XStephen Kotkin – Armageddon Averted: The Soviet Collapse 1970–2000https://www.amazon.com.au/Armageddon-Averted-Soviet-Collapse-1970-2000/dp/0195368630Friedrich Hayek – “The Use of Knowledge in Society”https://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/hykKnw.htmlLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
In this candid discussion, show host Gene Tunny joins a panel to expose the shortcomings of the Australian Government’s August 2025 economic reform summit. Topics include the high cost of energy, tax policy, the ballooning NDIS and big government generally, AI regulation, and Senator Matt Canavan’s rival roundtable, which Gene attended. This episode borrows the audio from Damian Coory’s The Other Side episode broadcast on YouTube on 22 August 2025. The other guests are Graham Young, Executive Director of the Australian Institute for Progress, and Dan Petrie, a data analyst and former editor at Bloomberg. Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsAustralian Government's Economic Reform Roundtable Overview (0:00)Critique of the Official Roundtable (3:26)Challenges in Defining Productivity and Addressing Labor Market Issues (6:59)Impact of Government Spending and Energy Costs on Productivity (9:48)Innovation and Small Business Challenges (34:00)Taxation and Economic Reform Proposals (34:29)NDIS and Healthcare Funding Challenges (51:04)Final Thoughts on the Roundtable and Future Directions (51:15)TakeawaysThe Official Roundtable Lacked Focus & Diversity: Only six business leaders were among 30 participants — a serious oversight for a summit focused on productivity and economic reform.Energy Costs Are a Major Barrier: Australia’s rapid rollout of renewable energy is raising energy prices, affecting both consumers and heavy industries.Government Spending Is Too High: Public spending is nearing 40% of GDP, with half of Australians now receiving government income, raising concerns about sustainability and productivity.Small Business & Innovation Ignored: There was little meaningful discussion of the role of small business or innovation in driving productivity.AI Regulation Needs a Balanced Approach: The roundtable discussions on AI were dominated by union concerns, focusing on job protection rather than innovation. This risks stifling technological advancement and missing opportunities for productivity gains.NDIS Costs Are Spiralling Out of Control: The National Disability Insurance Scheme is growing at an unsustainable rate, with concerns about high eligibility and inadequate oversight. The government’s proposed changes lack proper consultation and shift costs to the states.Links relevant to the conversationThe Other Side episode - “AUSTRALIA's Decline - No Vision, No Innovation, Just MORE Big Government and Taxes”:https://youtu.be/FeicrCu2sO0?si=Rd8xZV_CsmLzikW0Senator Matt Canavan’s roundtable broadcast on Sky News - “Real Productivity Roundtable reveals four ways to save Australia:”https://youtu.be/4xBGcjIXgHU?si=Uk1kaqq92bhacSmaRobert Carling’s recent paper - “Leviathan on the Rampage: Government spending growth a threat to Australia’s economic future”:https://www.cis.org.au/publication/leviathan-on-the-rampage-how-the-growth-of-government-is-draining-australias-economic-vitality/Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Professor Chris Berg from RMIT University discusses the transformative potential of AI, likening it to the next industrial revolution. He argues that AI, particularly tools like ChatGPT, can boost white-collar productivity by up to 40%. Governments should cautiously avoid AI regulation to maximise these gains. Berg emphasises AI's bottom-up adoption and its exponential advancements. He also touches on the social implications, including the formation of parasocial relationships with AI and the potential for AI to displace certain jobs. The conversation, with ATA Chief Economist John Humphreys and Economics Explored host Gene Tunny, highlights AI’s dual promise of productivity gains and societal challenges.Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsIntroduction to AI and Productivity (0:00)Government's Approach to AI Regulation (3:01)Bottom-Up Technology and Industrial Applications (9:40)Comparisons to Previous Industrial Revolutions (12:04)Social and Economic Implications of AI (16:46)AI and Human Labour (17:15)AI's Role in Public Policy Debates (35:41)Conclusion and Future Prospects (38:35)TakeawaysAI as “Infinite Intelligence” – Berg views AI, particularly LLMs like ChatGPT, as offering effectively infinite intelligence, capable of dramatically transforming productivity.White-Collar Disruption – AI is not just about automating manual labour. It poses a serious threat (and opportunity) for traditionally “smart” jobs like writing, research, and art.Regulatory Caution – While Europe has rushed to regulate AI, Australia hasn’t, allowing innovation and productivity gains to take root.Parasocial Relationships with AI – AI companions (e.g., AI-infused toys or assistants) may change human interaction, especially among children and vulnerable populations.Rethinking Migration via Robots – Remote-controlled humanoid robots may one day allow low-skilled workers in developing countries to "work" in advanced economies without leaving home.Links relevant to the conversationATA livestream on 21 August with Chris Berg:https://austaxpayers.substack.com/p/productivity-ideas-with-chris-bergLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Show host Gene Tunny and Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance Chief Economist John Humphreys tackle hot topics in Australian economic policy: the case for a cash flow company tax, the politics and maths of a gas ban, why stamp duty drags the economy, the growing size of government and the cost of living crisis. Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsIntroduction and Greens’ Gas Ban (0:00)Government Spending and Adverse Effects on Economic Dynamism (8:32)Stamp Duty and Efficiency Cost (19:42)Inflation Data and Cost of Living Crisis (25:39)Productivity Commission's Company Tax Reform (28:55)Workers' Compensation and Tax Incidence (43:11)Tariffs and Taxation (54:52)TakeawaysCash Flow Tax Reform – The Productivity Commission proposes cutting company tax to 20% for most firms, adding a 5% cash flow tax, and keeping the system revenue neutral—aimed at boosting investment.Gas Ban Impact – John argues the NSW Greens’ proposal would delay global warming by only 10 hours by 2100, even under optimistic assumptions, yet could raise costs for consumers and businesses.Stamp Duty Inefficiency – Economic modelling by the Centre of Policy Studies (CoPS) shows stamp duty’s deadweight loss at 70–80 cents per $1 raised, far worse than GST or income tax.Government Spending Growth – The CIS’s Robert Carling claims over half of Australians now earn primary income from government sources, raising concerns about productivity and political incentives.Hidden Tax Burdens – Workers’ compensation costs, though nominally paid by employers, often reduce workers’ wages in the long run, John argues.Links relevant to the conversationATA livestream on 7 August:https://austaxpayers.substack.com/p/australia-considers-cashflow-taxJohn’s article on Greens’ gas ban:https://austaxpayers.substack.com/p/greens-propose-gas-banPC’s cash flow tax proposal:https://www.pc.gov.au/inquiries/current/resilient-economy/interimLeviathan on the Rampage: Government spending growth a threat to Australia’s economic futurehttps://www.cis.org.au/publication/leviathan-on-the-rampage-how-the-growth-of-government-is-draining-australias-economic-vitality/CoPS on stamp duty: Some taxes are inefficient at any level. Even modest reforms will helphttps://www.vu.edu.au/about-vu/news-events/news/some-taxes-are-inefficient-at-any-level-even-modest-reforms-will-helpLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Kyle Touchstone, Director of Raleigh Economic Development, shares with us how Raleigh became the top-ranked large city in the US, according to the Milken Institute. Kyle and show host Gene Tunny discuss the city's success in biotech, AI, quantum computing, and advanced manufacturing—all underpinned by the world-class universities and innovation ecosystem of North Carolina’s Research Triangle. The conversation also explores Raleigh’s growing role in the gaming industry, including its connection to Epic Games—the creator of Fortnite—and the rise of eSports in the region.Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsRaleigh's Economic Growth and Milken Institute Ranking (0:00)Industry Sectors and Infrastructure in North Carolina (5:17)Significant Announcements and Investments (7:23)Population Growth and Quality of Life (12:23)Entrepreneurial Ecosystem and Community Support (15:08)Tax Policy and Economic Development (15:35)Quantum Computing and AI (19:49)Sports and Entertainment (43:40)eSports and Gaming (47:55)Lessons in Economic Development (50:39)TakeawaysTop Rankings: Raleigh was named the #1 best-performing large city by the Milken Institute and is part of the #1 state for business (North Carolina, per CNBC).Research Triangle Advantage: Home to NC State, Duke, and UNC Chapel Hill, the Research Triangle fuels innovation with top-tier talent and research.Massive Investment: Biotech firms, such as Biogen, Amgen, and Genentech, have invested billions, drawn by the infrastructure, affordability, and access to research.Quantum & AI Leadership: IBM’s quantum hub and regional AI focus are positioning Raleigh as a leader in next-gen computing.Entrepreneurial Ecosystem: Startups like Pendo and social enterprises like 321 Coffee thrive thanks to a strong support network and educational institutions.Links relevant to the conversationRaleigh, NC and Gainesville, GA Top Milken Institute’s 2025 Annual Ranking of Best-Performing Cities:https://milkeninstitute.org/content-hub/news-releases/raleigh-nc-and-gainesville-ga-top-milken-institutes-2025-annual-ranking-best-performing-citiesRaleigh Economic Development:https://www.raleighecondev.org/Zoom catch up with show host Gene TunnyJoin Gene and other listeners for a catch-up on Zoom on Thursday, 31 July at: 21.30 to 22.30 AEST/GMT+10 (Australian East Coast time)12.30 to 13.30 BST/GMT+1 (British Summer time)07.30 to 08.30 EDT/GMT-4 (US East Coast time)The link to the Zoom room is:https://us02web.zoom.us/j/9471595560RSVP by 20.00 GMT+10 on 31 July to contact@economicsexplored.comLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Show host Gene Tunny and colleague John Humphreys dissect Australia’s latest controversial Reserve Bank interest rate decision, debating inflation targeting and central bank independence. They challenge conventional economic thinking, particularly around the NAIRU—the Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment (NAIRU). The episode also tackles the implications of declining fertility rates globally, the controversial Tobin tax on financial transactions, and critiques current climate policies through an economic lens.Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsReserve Bank of Australia's Interest Rate Decision and Inflation Targeting (0:00)Debate on RBA Independence and Inflation Targeting (8:12)Challenges Facing the Australian Economy (23:00)Libertarian Perspectives on Currency and Population Decline (35:33)Economic Implications of Declining Fertility (36:31)Tobin Tax and Its Economic Rationale, Pros and Cons (50:12)Conclusion and Future Topics (56:48)TakeawaysRBA Decision Controversy: The RBA's recent decision on interest rates highlights the complexity and uncertainty around inflation management.NAIRU Concept Critique: The Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment is flawed and may misguide policy, according to John Humphreys.Demographic Concerns: Declining fertility and aging populations could be the defining issue of the 21st century.Economic Impacts of Climate Policy: Current climate change actions often lack transparent cost-benefit analyses, raising economic risks.Risks of Tobin Taxes: Tobin taxes seem feasible at low levels but risk inefficiency, evasion, and global governance issues.Links relevant to the conversationFull ATA livestream “ATA Live #20: Tobin tax & interest rates”:https://www.youtube.com/live/34WBRZNbwwc?si=TPU14g7SffIXuWMPAustralian Taxpayers’ Alliance:https://www.taxpayers.org.au/Zoom catch up with show host Gene TunnyJoin Gene and other listeners for a catch-up on Zoom on Thursday, 31 July at: 21.30 to 22.30 AEST/GMT+10 (Australian East Coast time)12.30 to 13.30 BST/GMT+1 (British Summer time)07.30 to 08.30 EDT/GMT-4 (US East Coast time)The link to the Zoom room is:https://us02web.zoom.us/j/9471595560RSVP by 20.00 GMT+10 on 31 July to contact@economicsexplored.comLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Show host Gene Tunny delves into listener feedback on recent episodes regarding the feasibility of tax cuts preceding spending cuts ("starve the beast"), a capital gains tax on property, and the practicality of Georgist land taxes. He explores the complexities behind Australia's productivity challenges and regulatory capture issues raised by listeners.Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsFeedback from Listeners and Show Updates (0:00)Discussion on the Starve the Beast Theory (2:26)Listener Feedback from Australia (8:25)Georgism and Property Taxation (20:11)Feedback on Productivity and Regulatory Capture (26:25)NDIS and Labour Force Participation (30:16)Tax Reform and Efficiency (41:15)Closing Remarks and Future Plans (50:21)TakeawaysTax Cuts Need Matching Spending Cuts: The "starve the beast" theory—that tax cuts alone will force spending cuts—is usually ineffective, historically resulting in higher deficits and debt.Capital Gains Tax Controversy: Taxing capital gains on family homes would be politically unpopular and controversial.Productivity and NDIS Debate: Growth in social services sectors, such as Australia’s National Disability Insurance Scheme, may negatively impact productivity measures, although this growth may also bring social benefits.Avoid Regulatory Capture: Effective regulatory reform requires vigilance against corporate lobbying and vested interests to ensure regulations genuinely benefit the public.Links relevant to the conversationPrevious episodes: Australia’s productivity problem w/ John Humphreys:https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/australias-productivity-problem-can-it-be-fixed-w-john/id1480645795?i=1000712724732Rethinking Property and Taxation: The Georgist Approach w/ John Augusthttps://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/rethinking-property-and-taxation-the-georgist-approach/id1480645795?i=1000703744281Fixing Australia’s Housing Crisis: Fusion’s Plan w/ Owen Millerhttps://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/fixing-australias-housing-crisis-fusions-plan-w-owen/id1480645795?i=1000700967776Livestream on superannuation with John Humphreys and Cameron Murray:https://www.youtube.com/live/SlGCSaiGCVU?si=sj-ySFaccJUm08sgArticles on the failure of the land value tax in the early 20th-century UK:https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/03/the-failure-of-the-land-value-tax.htmlhttps://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-failure-of-the-land-value-tax/Book review of Kaldor’s Expenditure Tax monograph:http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/Kaldor1955ExpenditureTaxDebate.pdfLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Rebecca Homkes of Duke Corporate Education and London Business School joins the show to discuss how economic and trade policy chaos is hindering strategic decision-making in global firms. Rebecca shares how to spot the CEOs who are genuinely thinking ahead—those who anchor their choices in beliefs and prepare to adapt as conditions change. We also explore AI’s real value in business: not just saving time, but repurposing it for higher-value work and strategic growth.Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsIntroduction and Overview of the Podcast (0:00)Manufacturing Jobs vs. Manufacturing Capacity (1:03)CEO Strategic Paralysis and Policy Uncertainty (16:31)Regulation and Economic Policy (16:47)Vision for the Future and National Security Concerns (20:10)CEO Strategies in Uncertain Times (23:36)Exemplars of Strategic Preparation (28:08)Impact of AI on Business Strategy (36:56)Challenges in AI Adoption (47:51)Future of Jobs and AI (49:57)Conclusion and Final Thoughts (52:01)TakeawaysChaos breeds inaction – CEOs facing policy and geopolitical uncertainty often freeze, avoiding significant investments due to a lack of clarity.AI’s true value lies in repurposed time – Businesses should measure AI’s success not by time saved, but by how that time is used for higher-value tasks.Strategic beliefs drive resilient planning – The best-performing organisations base decisions on articulated beliefs, not reactive responses.Links relevant to the conversationRebecca’s website:https://www.rebeccahomkes.com/Rebecca’s book Survive, Reset, Thrive:https://www.surviveresetthrive.com/Lumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED
Gene Tunny and John Humphreys dissect the causes behind Australia's productivity slump, analysing recent GDP data, labour market policies, and regulatory constraints. They debate whether tax cuts should precede spending cuts and question the effectiveness of central planning and government intervention (i.e. ‘picking winners’) in driving innovation. John is Chief Economist at the Australian Taxpayers’ Alliance (ATA). This episode is the audio of an ATA livestream on 12 June 2025.Please email Gene your thoughts on this episode via contact@economicsexplored.com.TimestampsNational Accounts and Productivity Concerns (0:00)Government's Productivity Roundtable and Regulatory Reforms (4:34)Economic Policy and Institutional Reforms (8:19)Challenges in Private Investment and Productivity Measures (13:56)Industrial Relations and Labour Market Reforms (18:14)Housing Market and Regulatory Barriers (22:56)Tax Reforms and Fiscal Responsibility (29:59)Superannuation Tax Changes and Political Implications (47:15)Conclusion and Future Prospects (57:22)TakeawaysAustralia is in an 8-year productivity slump, with minimal growth in GDP per hour worked and GDP per capita declining in most recent quarters.The Albanese Government’s proposed productivity roundtable is met with scepticism, particularly due to its unwillingness to touch industrial relations.Private investment remains weak, threatening future economic growth despite government spending and immigration-fueled expansion.Superannuation changes are controversial, especially the proposal to tax unrealised gains and the lack of indexation, prompting fears of unfair treatment of self-managed funds.Regulation, housing policy, and taxation are significant barriers to productivity; both speakers call for serious reform and question whether centralisation in Canberra helps or hinders progress.Links relevant to the conversationATA livestream (i.e. video of this episode):https://www.youtube.com/live/lDlner_PHc0?si=1M9krIiPwvIcFxLsATA website:https://www.taxpayers.org.au/Australia’s National Accounts:https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/economy/national-accounts/australian-national-accounts-national-income-expenditure-and-product/latest-releaseLumo Coffee promotion10% of Lumo Coffee’s Seriously Healthy Organic Coffee.Website: https://www.lumocoffee.com/10EXPLOREDPromo code: 10EXPLORED




what a shit interview so far.. my take away from Atlas Shrugged was far different.