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Jenny, Solange and Liz get philosophical at the end of the season and talk about object use, facsimiles, and the human connection. 00:33 Straight into philosophy 06:21 What do we value? 10:14 But use is damage, right? 14:20 What about future use? 15:55 Renaissance Disneyland 20:38 Interacting with collections 32:17 Familial connections 35:11 Message from Jenny Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Solange Masher, and Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Jenny, Solange and Liz share their thoughts on finding clients, while some of our listeners in private practice reveal what really works for them. Also tune in for a book review from Phedra! 00:53 Let’s get into it! 05:05 Bragging about yourself can be hard 06:28 Listener contributions 08:07 Business cards, fairs and open studios 18:36 Should we tell people where we are? 21:27 Listener contributions 23:03 Social media 33:25 Websites and price transparency 42:59 Old-fashioned advertising 47:05 Listener contributions 54:51 Review: Ancient Glass in the J. Paul Getty Museum Show Notes: - Ancient Glass in the J. Paul Getty Museum: https://shop.getty.edu/products/ancient-glass-in-the-j-paul-getty-museum-978-1606069196 and https://www.getty.edu/publications/ancient-glass/ Previous business and freelancing episodes: - S16E06 Early Career Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2025/05/29/s16e06-early-career-freelancing/ - S13E05 Being in Business: https://thecword.show/2023/05/17/s13e05-being-in-business/ - S11E04 Building a Business: https://thecword.show/2022/05/04/s11e04-building-a-business/ - S02E03 Freelancing: https://thecword.show/2017/09/22/s02e03-freelancing/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Solange Masher, and Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Liz is joined by Isabella Rossi and Sophie McAloone for another emerging professional special – this time about being in private practice! Or freelance. Or whatever you’d like to call it! (We talk that one out too.) Can you go at it alone as an ECP? Spoilers: yes! 00:36 BevArt chat with Jenny and Solange 08:28 New kids on the block 11:26 The appeal of going solo 17:28 The delicate balance of working with clients 23:08 Learning from each other 29:39 Getting started 41:49 Changes seen and hoped for Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - BevArt’s new Pro sensor: https://www.bev.art/blog/bev-art-launches-pro-sensor-industry-leading-discreet-climate-monitor - Follow Sophie: https://www.instagram.com/thenorthernconservator/ - Fine Art Restoration Co: https://fineart-restoration.co.uk/ - Follow Isabella: https://www.instagram.com/rossiconservation/ - Rossi Conservation: https://rossiconservation.com/ - Icon Private Practice Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/private-practice.html - Icon PPG on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61558105327720 - Icon PPG on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iconprivatepracticegroup/ - Icon PPG on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13023584/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Sophie McAloone, and Isabella Rossi. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025

Jenny and Solange are joined by conservation scientist Panagiotis Morfis as we talk bioplastics: what are they, where do they crop up, and how can we look after them? Also tune in for a review of ‘Experimental Design and Scientific Data Analysis’ from Jenny. 01:03 Feeling out of our depth is okay 05:00 What ARE bioplastics? 07:25 Information and identification 14:09 Bringing in the science 17:06 3D printing 25:28 Survey time! 29:46 3D printers in every home 31:07 The place of 3D printers in conservation 38:51 A return to making 48:44 Review: Experimental Design and Scientific Data Analysis Show Notes: - S02E05 Modern Materials (our old plastics episode!): https://thecword.show/2017/10/18/s02e05-modern-materials/ - Research overview from Panos: https://drive.google.com/file/d/18vNefVxMUH2urWH62RSkoMkJ6LrfSxVo/view?usp=sharing - FTIR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourier-transform_infrared_spectroscopy - Raman spectroscopy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raman_spectroscopy - Liquid chromatography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-performance_liquid_chromatography - Panos’ survey: https://forms.office.com/r/XJv81gneMW - Experimental Design and Scientific Data Analysis: https://www.routledge.com/Experimental-Design-and-Scientific-Data-Analysis/Skipper-Skipper/p/book/9781032501635 Recommended Reading from Panos: - ‘Sustainability at Christmas: Considering single use items, traditional plastics and bioplastics’: https://www.open.edu/openlearn/science-maths-technology/design-innovation/sustainability-at-christmas - MoDiP projects: https://www.modip.ac.uk/projects - A curator’s guide to plastics: https://www.modip.ac.uk/projects/curators-guide-plastics Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Solange Masher and Panagiotis (Panos) Morfis. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

In this takeover special folks from the Heritage Trust Network Youth Forum get real about being emerging and early career professionals in heritage: sharing thoughts on resilience, broad skill sets, and whether or not we’re over the whole ‘digital’ thing. Are we maybe done with instant gratification? Also tune in for a book review from Liz! 00:13 BevArt update! 01:45 Introducing our takeover crew 02:55 Meet Grace, Becca, Emily, and Kate 13:46 How do you get experience? 20:01 Discovering a hidden community 26:38 Let’s talk digitisation in heritage 42:02 Our own collections 44:35 Review: Gesina ter Borch Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - Heritage Trust Network Youth Forum: https://heritagetrustnetwork.org.uk/heritage-trust-network-youth-forum/ - Gesina ter Borch by Adam Eaker: https://shop.getty.edu/products/gesina-ter-borch-978-1606069462 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by the people at the Heritage Trust Network Youth Forum in collaboration with The C Word team. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Join us as we all share the love for the smaller museums out there by visiting somewhere local (to each of us) or ditty (if we were on holiday). Come along to five wonderful little museums! 01:03 Solange visits Derwent Pencil Museum 09:52 Phedra goes to the Museum of Greek Refugees 24:33 Liz visits the Our Lord in the Attic Museum 34:17 Kloe goes to Shibden Hall 44:00 Jenny visits the Dylan Thomas Boathouse Show Notes: - Derwent Pencil Museum: https://www.derwentart.com/en-gb/c/about/company/derwent-pencil-museum - The Museum of Greek Refugees: https://www.visitkavala.gr/en/sightseeing/museum-greek-refugees/ - Our Lord in the Attic Museum: https://opsolder.nl/en/museum-our-lord-in-the-attic/ - Shibden Hall: https://museums.calderdale.gov.uk/visit/shibden-hall - Dylan Thomas Boathouse: https://cofgar.wales/venues/dylan-thomas-boathouse/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Jenny, Liz and Solange tackle the age old question: how do you choose a conservation specialism? How did we find ours and what should you consider? Also tune in for a review of the new edition of ‘Culture is Bad for You’ from Jenny! 00:31 Kloe and Phedra are on maternity leave 01:24 How Solange found books 05:57 Do we begin with the craft? 08:55 Solange accidentally introduces someone to conservation 13:09 Let’s teach kids repair skills! 15:28 How Liz found paintings 19:25 Jenny’s refusal to stick to any one thing 25:45 Don’t be afraid to reach out! 27:49 Have any listeners switched specialisms? 33:04 But objects is a specialism! 34:40 How to narrow the possibilities 43:19 Skill shortages and ‘safe bets’ 46:17 Review: Culture is Bad for You (new edition) Show Notes: - Culture is Bad for You – Inequality in the Cultural and Creative Industries: https://manchesteruniversitypress.co.uk/9781526177810/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Solange Masher, Liz Hébert, and Jenny Mathiasson. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Liz and Solange are joined by Mary Lewis, head of craft sustainability at Heritage Crafts. Where does conservation and craft overlap? Let’s talk it out! Also tune in for a book review from Jenny. 00:24 Sponsorship news, hooray! 01:57 Meet Mary 05:53 Kindling crafts and their benefits 07:44 Intangible cultural heritage and the fetishisation of objects 11:45 Endangered crafts 17:19 Being human and using your hands 24:40 Overlap between making and repairing or maintaining 30:32 Woes of making a living 35:42 Shortages in conservation and crafts 42:58 What’s the next big craft trend? 48:44 Review: Conservation of Plaster Casts Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - Heritage Crafts: https://www.heritagecrafts.org.uk/ - A little about Mary: https://www.heritagecrafts.org.uk/staff/mary-lewis/ - Ratification of the 2003 Convention for the Safeguarding of the Intangible Cultural Heritage: https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/united-kingdom-great-britain-and-northern-ireland-ratifies-2003-convention-safeguarding-intangible - The Red List of Endangered Crafts: https://www.heritagecrafts.org.uk/skills/redlist/ - List of Living National Treasures of Japan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Living_National_Treasures_of_Japan_(crafts) - Stone carving podcast mentioned by Solange: https://sites.libsyn.com/442152 - Conservation of Plaster Casts: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/conservation-of-plaster-casts/?id=436 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Solange Masher, Liz Hébert, and Mary Lewis. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2025.

Ho ho ho! In this festive special the team assembles to play a game of ‘Would you rather?’ and make some predictions for the year ahead – plus an exciting announcement from Phedra and Kloe! 00:05:13 A game of ‘Would you rather?’ 00:31:07 Predictions for 2025 00:38:04 The announcement! 00:41:01 Songs on YouTube 00:41:34 Thank you, listeners! Show Notes: - S09E08 Dyes in Conservation: https://thecword.show/2021/06/30/s09e08-dyes-in-conservation/ - S06E03 The One with the Arduino: https://thecword.show/2019/10/16/s06e03-the-one-with-the-arduino/ - Xray My Advent (Mastodon advent calendar): https://glammr.us/tags/XrayMyAdvent - Christmas playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrpSmIb8Dh32tU-6vLnvhEGVwauPGC3Ug Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, Phedra Komodromou, Solange Masher, and Liz Hébert. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

We consider a few different takes on apprenticeships: Liz has been an apprentice, Jenny has hosted one, and Kloe is keen. Kloe also talks to Jane Henderson about the potential pitfalls, and Solange interviews stone carvers Nina Bilbey and Charlotte Howarth about how apprenticeships work in their industry. Don’t forget to tune in for a Dear Jane about choosing a specialism at the end! 00:02:11 Recent keynote on the topic 00:08:38 Liz’ experience of apprenticeships 00:15:30 How do you get to host an apprentice? (Jenny gets this a little wrong) 00:20:28 Jenny’s experience of hosting a Level 3 apprenticeship 00:34:05 Some alternative approaches 00:37:48 Will employers accept apprentices? 00:45:46 Passing on knowledge 00:47:20 Correction about length of Icon apprenticeships 00:48:25 Interview with Jane Henderson 01:07:24 Interview with Charlotte and Nina 01:20:06 Dear Jane Show Notes: - S15E01 Icon24 Special + Summer Updates: https://thecword.show/2024/09/18/s15e01-icon24-special-summer-updates/ - Diversity Discussion Panel Bonus Episode: https://thecword.show/2019/03/01/bonus-episode-diversity-discussion-panel/ - Marsh conservation award winners 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/resource/marsh-conservation-awards-winners-announced-at-icon24.html - Art CPR: https://www.artcpr.com/ - National minimum wage (including apprentices): https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-rates - Apprenticeship levels in the UK explained: https://www.gov.uk/become-apprentice - Georgie Dennis Conservation: https://www.georgiedennisconservation.com/ - S15E05 Accreditation Part 2: https://thecword.show/2024/11/13/s15e05-accreditation-part-2-the-international-take/ - SRAL: https://sral.nl/en - Icon apprenticeships: https://www.icon.org.uk/careers/conservation-apprenticeships.html - Museums Association AMA: https://www.museumsassociation.org/careers/ama/ - Charlotte Howarth: https://www.making-marks.com/ - Nina Bilbey: https://ninabilbey.com/ - The Lettering Arts Trust: https://www.letteringartstrust.org.uk/ - Listen to Charlotte and Nina’s podcast: https://sites.libsyn.com/442152 Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Jenny Mathiasson, Kloe Rumsey, and Liz Hébert. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

In this takeover special the conservators at the National Trust take us behind the scenes: telling us their stories, sharing their hopes for the future, and smashing myths about NT properties! 00:00:12 Have you heard of BevArt? 00:02:12 Sarah and Siobhan introduce the National Trust 00:08:18 Urban gems 00:10:14 Managing collections in houses 00:17:04 Changing approaches to preservation 00:22:30 Anita and Rebecca go for a walk 00:27:34 Saying hello to Sarah and the book conservation volunteers 00:32:41 Clare and Claire in the textile studio 00:39:01 Internships and learning 00:43:54 Looking to the future of the studio 00:45:55 Sarah visits Emma at the Knole studio 00:52:37 Sharing the space 01:00:45 Sharing the knowledge 01:04:40 Routes into the profession 01:07:54 Going into the Royal Oak studio 01:11:15 Saying hi to Anna and the artworks 01:19:04 Bonus content: stags at sunset! Show Notes: - BevArt: https://www.bev.art/ - BevArt’s buy-back scheme: https://www.bev.art/blog/bev-art-launches-sensor-buy-back-program - The National Trust: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/ - Batemans: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/sussex/batemans - Hughenden Manor: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/oxfordshire-buckinghamshire-berkshire/hughenden - The Textile Conservation Studio: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/norfolk/the-textile-conservation-studio - The Royal Oak Foundation Conservation Studio: https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/kent/the-royal-oak-foundation-conservation-studio Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by the conservators at the National Trust in collaboration with The C Word team. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

Kloe and Solange give an update on their respective journeys while Liz and Phaedra talk to Bethany Jo Mikelait and Mariana Onofri about how the profession (and accreditation) works in Canada and Brazil. Also tune in for a Dear Jane about gently refusing to work on an object. 00:00:23 Solange and Kloe’s updates 00:15:29 Who are our co-hosts? 00:16:32 How it works in Canada 00:31:28 How it works in Brazil 00:45:48 How can we be regulated BUT also inclusive? 01:01:51 Dear Jane Show Notes: - S13E02 Accreditation (Part 1): https://thecword.show/2023/04/05/s13e02-accreditation-part-1/ - Canadian Association of Professional Conservators: https://capc-acrp.ca/ - Bethany’s practice: https://www.theartconservatory.ca/ - Follow Mariana on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marianaonofri.restauro/ - Canadian Conservation Institute: https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute.html - Q&A with Indigenous lawmaker Célia Xakriabá: https://news.mongabay.com/2023/02/if-brazil-starts-with-us-why-did-we-arrive-last-qa-with-indigenous-lawmaker-celia-xakriaba/ - Regulamenta Ja's Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/regulamentaja_cr/ - News in Conservation article by Sayang Rehan: https://www.iiconservation.org/publications/nic/news-conservation-issue-102-june-july-2024 - Museums Association Ethics Committee: https://www.museumsassociation.org/campaigns/ethics/committee/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Kloe Rumsey, Phedra Komodromou, Liz Hébert, Bethany Jo Mikelait, Mariana Onofri, and Solange Masher. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.