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The Rules of Investing
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The Rules of Investing is one of Australia’s longest-running business podcasts, providing investors with unparalleled access to the ideas and insights of Australia’s leading fund managers, economists and industry experts. Learn how the industry’s best invest, with the help of Livewire’s James Marlay and Chris Conway. Whether you’re new to investing or a seasoned professional, this podcast is for you. New episodes are released every second Friday, available on Livewire Markets, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube.
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Equity markets are in the middle of what Greg Dean calls “the world’s most uncomfortable rotation." In this episode, the founder of Langdon Equity Partners explains why AI may not be the real story, why high-margin businesses can be more vulnerable than they appear, and how he’s positioning his portfolio, including a 7.6% stake in L1 Group and a decision to reinvest in Johns Lyng after its take-private.
More than 70 companies reported this week and while the ASX 200 continues to push record highs, stock reactions remain ruthless.
In this episode, Ben Clark argues it’s been one of the strongest reporting seasons in years, with banks, miners and consumer names broadly beating expectations.
He explains why Woolworths’ resurgence caught the market off guard, why WiseTech’s AI defence matters more than its job cuts, and why Monadelphous and Ramsay may be turning points.
Clark also highlights heavy insider buying across tech, suggesting recent weakness may be overdone. Despite volatility, he sees momentum building into the second half.
With reporting season taking a positive turn, Chris Conway speaks with James Gerrish of Market Partners to get his hot take on a big week of reporting season, the key beats and misses, and what he's keeping an eye on for the rest of the season.
The first big week of reporting season was full of fireworks with some wild swings in some of the biggest companies on the ASX. Livewire's Chris Conway spoke with Henry Jennings from Marcus Today to discuss some of the important results and how investors reacted.
Inflation is back at the centre of investor concerns. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, James Marlay is joined by outgoing Schroders CEO and CIO Simon Doyle to discuss why inflation has been so persistent, the assets he trusts most to protect real returns and the lessons from a long career in markets.
Markets delivered another strong year in 2025, extending an exceptional run for equities. The S&P 500 returned around 22.8% per annum over the past three years, roughly double the long-term average, while the ASX 200 delivered closer to 9.7% excluding dividends.
After a run like this, the key issue isn’t just where markets go next, but how investors set expectations. In this episode, James Marlay speaks Ben Clark from TMS Private Wealth and Charlie Viola from Viola Private Wealth to discuss realistic return expectations, the factors shaping asset allocation for 2026, and where they’re directing new capital.
Vishal Teckchandani asked two of Australia's leading ETF providers to put together a starting lineup of 11 ETFs built to win next year.
Our two team captains were VanEck's Jamie Hannah and Global X ETFs' Marc Jocum, who each brought some of their big hitters (and more cricket metaphors than you can shake a stump at).
Property experts Nerida Conisbee and Kiril Ruvinsky unpack what is driving the market and share their bold predictions for 2026.
The Rules of Investing has wrapped for 2025. Thanks for tuning in; we’ve loved bringing you the conversations and insights that shaped markets this year.
We have a few bonus episodes coming out over the next couple of weeks and we’ll return to regular programming in 2026.
Enjoy the holiday break and all the best for the year ahead.
The ASX’s headline yield has slipped, but dividend income is still on offer if investors know where to look. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, IML’s Dr Michael O’Neill explains the dividend outlook, shares five ASX income picks, and outlines the mistake investors are making on rates and valuation risk.
*Correction - in the podcast Michael mistakenly said the yield on CSL is 4% when it is actually closer to 3% based on 1-year forward estimates from brokers.
Dr David Allen from Plato Investment Management joins the show to unpack the systematic engine behind his fund’s 25 percent annual returns, how red flags reveal stocks set to fall, and the global themes he believes will drive markets over the next decade.
QVG Capital’s Chris Prunty joins the Rules of Investing to unpack what makes the great companies great. He shares the three traits found in Australia’s “Hall of Fame” stocks, reveals four small caps he believes could follow in their footsteps, and explains why QVG is backing Hub24 over Netwealth in the battle of the investment platforms.
Property moves in cycles, but real value lies in assets you can’t replace. Quay Global Investors’ Chris Bedingfield joins The Rules of Investing to explain why global REITs are trading at some of the biggest discounts in years, how ageing demographics and construction costs are reshaping real estate, and why patience remains the most underrated edge for investors.
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It’s hard to know what markets will do next week, let alone next year. But what if you could identify companies that will be in a stronger position five years from now?
That’s the approach taken by Lev Margolin, founder of System Capital, a Melbourne-based long/short strategy that’s delivered more than 22% per annum since inception. In this episode of The Rules of Investing, we unpack the four-step framework that guides his process, where he’s finding opportunities in a hot market, and the businesses he believes are quietly building long-term strength.
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Soul Patts CEO Todd Barlow joins The Rules of Investing to unpack the firm’s merger with Brickworks, why he’s buying at cyclical lows, and how he’s positioning for the future of energy. He also shares why liquidity and humility matter when markets are running hot.
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Markets are on fire and bubble talk is everywhere. So how should investors respond? In this episode, Magellan’s Arvid Streimann breaks down how to keep emotion out of your decisions, where he’s finding genuine value, and why he still believes in the power of brands and discipline.
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In this episode of The Rules of Investing, Centennial’s Matthew Kidman shares his playbook for the late stage of a structural bull market. He explains why valuations don’t matter (for now), how he found his first 10-bagger, and the standout management teams on the ASX. Plus, Kidman reveals why he’s still bullish on markets — and what could eventually bring it all undone.
Warryn Robertson has spent two decades investing in the assets that keep the world running — from toll roads to transmission lines and satellites. In this episode, he explains the rules for owning the world’s best assets, why getting the definition right matters, and what investors are getting wrong about markets today.
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Two of Australia’s most respected investment firms share how they are positioning for tomorrow. Learn where they see opportunity and how their strategies are evolving. From private credit to gold, discover where Soul Patts’ Todd Barlow and Regal’s Phil King see the biggest returns.
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This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage.
Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]
From gaming stock to global giant, Nvidia shows how fast the future can arrive. Global stock pickers Josh Cummings, Qiao Ma and Dr David Allen share where they see the next mega caps emerging.
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This series is proudly sponsored by Bell Direct Advantage.
Bell Direct Advantage is a premium trading platform designed for active and sophisticated investors. It provides access to Bell Potter research, exclusive IPOs, and advanced trading tools, all aimed at giving you a competitive edge. Whether you're a frequent trader or a high-net-worth individual looking to trade shares, options, or warrants, Bell Direct Advantage offers a tailored platform and superior service to sharpen your investing edge. [Find out more here]





















Really like this series. A chance to get the perspectives of a range of knowledgeable investment people. My favourite investment podcast.
One of the best interviews of an excellent series. Thank you.