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Welcome to The Ruins, a podcast about the journey of faith, hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson.
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In episode 55, we're unpacking the bizarre canonization of Charlie Kirk by conservative white evangelicals in the wake of his death, exposing how pastors and faith leaders have transformed a fascist, misogynist, and white supremacist into a supposed Christian martyr. SHOW NOTESTHE Facebook StatusCommoners WebsiteCommoners Instagram
In episode 54 we are joined by Jade Faletoi and talking with her about what it means to identify as a Christian in 2024. We’ll also talk about Jade’s Samoan-American family legacy, her take on worship music, and what’s it like being a queer woman of color who works at a Christian university.
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Jade's Instagram
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In episode 53, we are joined by pastor, author, podcast host, and public theologian, Trey Ferguson and talking with him about his new book Theologizin' Bigger. We’ll also talk about reading the Bible, the deconstruction movement, politics, God’s commitment to our wholeness, and why the middle ground isn’t actually holy.
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Theologizin Bigger Book
Trey's Website
Trey's Twitter
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In episode 52, I am going to be sharing a few pastoral thoughts on the recent happenings around the “Let Us Worship” event here in Spokane that featured white Christian Nationalist Sean Feucht, Spokane Mayor Nadine Woodward, Matt Shea, and others, and offer a few pastoral responses to what I experienced.
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Let Us Worship Twitter Thread
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In episode 51, we are joined by scholar, writer, and Gonzaga University professor, Dr. Joan Braune and talking with her about empathy and fascism. We’ll talk about how we can organize and oppose fascism in our every day lives, and how people of faith can live with integrity in the face of the ongoing threat of Christo-fascism.
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Dr. Braune Website
International Conference on Hate Studies
No Pasarán Book
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 50, we are joined by Sarah Dixit, and talking with her about voting. We’ll also talk about evangelicalism, Democrats, abortion access, moving away from our inherited beliefs, and how we can love our neighbors well by voting to create a world where we all can flourish.
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Planned Parenthood Abortion Fund
vote.org
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 49, we are joined by my dear friend and mentor, Eugene Kim, and talking with him about the future of Christianity. We’ll talk about his journey of quitting pastoral ministry, common themes he sees in his conversations with people leaving with evangelicalism, and how New Wine Collective might just change the world.
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Eugene Kim Twitter
Eugene Kim Facebook
Eugene Kim Instagram
New Wine Collective Newsletter
New Wine Collective Twitter
New Wine Collective Instagram
New Wine Collective Facebook
New Wine Collective Website
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 48, we are joined by Jonny Rashid, and talking with him about his new book Jesus Takes A Side. We’ll also talk about the future of Christianity, Christian Nationalism, white supremacy, the harm of the third way, how much salt you need while cooking, and why bipartisanship in the church doesn’t work.
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Jesus Takes a Side Book
Jonny Rashid Twitter
Jonny Rashid Instagram
Johnny Rashid Website
Resist and Restore Podcast
Circle of Hope Church, Philly
Food Pastor Instagram
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 47, we are joined by Damon Garcia, and talking with him about his new book The God Who Riots— Taking Back the Radical Jesus. We’ll also talk about liberation theology, capitalism in the church, abolition, forgiveness, marginalized communities, and how we can live into a better way forward, together.
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Damon's IG
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Damon's Youtube
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Buy The God Who Riots Book
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 46, we are joined by Tori Glass and talking with her about leaving Evangelicalism. We're also neuroscience, white supremacy, capitalism, bad theology, Christian Nationalism, and why Republican politics is inseparable from white evangelicalism.
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Tori's Twitter
Tori's Instagram
White Homework
Tori Glass
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 45, we are joined by Kai Ngu and talking with them about Christian Supremacy. We’ll also talk about hermeneutics, Youtube discipleship, and how we can live into the way of Jesus and usher in the next 500 years of Christianity. We experienced some technical difficulties with Kai’s audio near the end of the episode, so keep that in mind as you’re listening.
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Kai's Twitter
Kai's Instagram
Kai's Website
Theology Thursday
Christian Supremacy Sermon
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 44, we are joined by Greg, Ariel, and Kayla and talking with them about Maverick City Music. We’ll also talk about gospel music, Black artists placating to white audiences, respectability politics, capitalism, intersectionality, the white gaze, and what we do moving forward for worship music.
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Kayla's Twitter
Kayla's Instagram
Kayla's Patreon
Greg's Twitter
Greg's Instagram
Greg's Facebook
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 43, we are joined by Camille Hernandez and talking with her about purity culture in the church. We're also talking about trauma, militarization, the consent of Jesus, violence, decolonization, and how we can move forward in the way of Jesus and see restoration and healing in our communities.
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Camille's Instagram
Camille's Twitter
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 42, we are joined by Dr. Nikia Smith Robert and talking with her about carceral logic and abolition. We’ll also talk about Womanist theology, her non-profit Abolition Sanctuary, Black motherhood, atonement theories, and the role that abolition has and will continue to play in the church in the years ahead.
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Dr. Nikia Website
Abolitionist Sanctuary Instagram
Abolitionist Sanctuary Twitter
Abolitionist Sanctuary Facebook
Penitence, Plantation, and the Penitentiary
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The Ruins is a podcast about the journey of faith hosted by Joseph and Nicole Peterson. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In (bonus!) episode 41 we are joined by Sena Hughes Lauer and talking with her about the harm of Mother's Day in the church. We'll also talk gender roles, God as Mother, and how we can create spaces where elevation women is an integral part of church life.
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Sena's Instagram
Nicole's Instagram
Shannon's Post on Instagram
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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 40, we are joined by Nick Laparra, and talking with him about why and how he left evangelicalism. We’ll also talk about his podcast Let’s Give a Damn, Calvinist theology, smoking cigars, living in New York City, making people mad on social media, and what it looks like for us to be a damn-givers who care about seeing the world become a better place.
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Nick's Instagram
Nick's Twitter
Let's Give A Damn Instagram
Let's Give A Damn Twitter
Let's Give A Damn Website
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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 39 we are joined by the amazing Kat Armas and talking with her about the unnamed and overlooked theologians of our faith. We’ll also talk about her book Abuelita Faith, hermeneutics, women in the Scripture, growing up in conversation church spaces, and what it looks like for us to center and learn from abuelita theologians and discover what liberation for all of us looks like.
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Kat's Instagram
Kat's Twitter
Kat's Facebook
Abuelita Faith
The Protagonistas Podcast
Kat Armas Website
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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 38 we're talking spiritual abuse. It's been 3 years to the day since we were fired and excommunicated from our church in Vancouver, BC. Here are 5 lessons and a word of encouragement for anyone who's experienced spiritual abuse. If you don't have anyone to talk to about your experience, please reach out to us. We'd love to hold space alongside you for whatever you're feeling.
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Episode 22: Spiritual Abuse
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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 37 we are joined by the amazing Rev. June Joplin and talking with her about gender binaries in the church. We’ll also talk about her journey of coming out, how patriarchy affects our our theology, how we can break down toxic and oppressive binaries, and how our trans/non-binary/gnc siblings help us know God better.
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June's Twitter
June's Instagram
June's Website
MCC Toronto
June's Coming Out Sermon
June's Surgery GoFundMe
BBC World Service Feature on June
25 Women of Influence Feature
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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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In episode 36, we are joined by Rohadi, and talking with him about the whiteness of deconstruction. We’ll also talk about how his upcoming book When We Belong, pastoral ministry in Canada, and how we can move forward to reclaim Christianity on the Margins.
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Rohadi Twitter
Rohadi Instagram
www.rohadi.com
When We Belong Book
Faith in a Fresh Vibe Podcast
Episode 41 Conversation with Omar Reyes
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Joseph and Nicole are living as bi-vocational pastors and leaders in Spokane, Washington. To find more about our story, visit www.thepetersons.cc.
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