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Dru and Francis are back to kick off 2025 with a review of the news, a bit of a Bible study, and the lofi banter you didn't know you missed in 2024.
Despite the snark, we really care about this project, and are excited to get back on air! Let us know what you think, and share ideas for topics, guests, and musical cues.
What are the evangelical messages around sex, desire, spirituality, and beauty actually doing to us and our children? Sheila Wray Gregoire shares research on this question, and offers healthy, Jesus-centered alternatives. We also hash out social media conversations, celebrity, and much more.
Find more from Rebekah at The Kingdom Outpost. Her article on Twitter and celebrity theologians is on Medium: https://medium.com/@rebekahmui/obfusticating-christian-language-shaunti-preston-and-the-twitter-mob-c76088ef9814
Sheila's website is baremarriage.com.
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Once again, we dive into Judges, and think about how the mighty Gideon fell from faith to cowardly idolatry. But first: a recap of what we’ve been reading lately, and corny poems for spring.
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This week, I drag @WalterRothbard off Twitter and into a wide-ranging conversation on political theory, marriage, and anger. David (real last name not disclosed) has an amazing testimony of the transforming power of Christ's peace over anger. We get into some turbulent waters as we consider critiques against an author that David has benefited from and conclude with some practical advice about overcoming anger.
What did you think of the episode? Who would you like to hear from in the future? Does David's endorsement of Willard Harley ring true, or cause concern? Share your thoughts with audio on WhatsApp: 218.353.1725
Lisl and I are excited to kick off a new season (era? reboot?) of That Jesus Podcast! After the usual navel-gazing, we pick up with the book of Judges, exploring the rise of Gideon. Does God want us to demand signs before we act? Is cowardice a sin? Did Gideon make noise with a ram's horn or with a trumpet? Tune in to find out.
You can catch up on our previous studies on Judges on this feed - episodes 93 and 94.
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What is liturgy? Are written prayers a form of “vain repetition” or a tool to avoid that rut? An Anglican pastor joins Dru to discuss this and more, along with friend-of-the-pod Kimberly Witmer!
Check out Dave's church: www.cotcboston.org
A great resource for the Daily Office on phone or computer: www.dailyoffice2019.com
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Latest Patreon post: patreon.com/posts/outtakes-last-75969773
Francis is departing in peace.
Tis the season for pumpkin spice and, err, spicy interviews? Sheila Wray Gregoire joined us to rescue sex from the unbiblical errors that often permeate Christian messages. Whether married or single, this conversation provides helpful insight into God's design for sexuality, along with practical pointers for growing in intimacy.
Check out Sheila's resources at baremarriage.com.
Reach out to us on WhatsApp or text at 218.353.1725
David Carlson joins us again, this time sharing his journey in memorizing Scripture as a spiritual discipline. But first, The Cohost dreams about Dru and we discuss the ethics of AirSoft rifles. Tune in after the end for a few minutes of liturgy with David, from the book of Genesis.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
https://www.amazon.com/His-Word-Heart-Memorizing-Scripture/dp/0802409644
writhyn.github.io/memory
Follow David on Twitter @TheBibleInVerse
It's episode 100 folks! The cohosts begin by discussing eternal conscious torment since it's just that time of the year. Then, Dr. Barbara L. Peacock joined us to talk about spiritual formation and soul care from a historic African American perspective.
Dr. Peacock's ministry: https://www.barbaralpeacock.com
Dr. Peacock's school: https://www.peacocksoulcare.com
We are back with Season Five!
In this episode, we talked about an article that was recently published in the Kingdom Outpost by one of the hosts on the pursuit of pleasure in Christ. Paradoxically, discipline may be the path to spiritual euphoria.
Link to the article: https://kingdomoutpost.org/sacred-euphoria
We are wrapping up Season 4 and looking forward to the next chapter of the podcast!
Styles of parenting have a way of stirring up conflict like few other things. Perhaps that’s because parenting is so real. We’ve all been parented - for better or worse - and many of us are parents. Most of us will be - again, for better or worse.
In today’s episode, we have Patricia Lewis on to share about an alternative to the traditional fundamentalist spanking-centered approach. Patricia is a mom herself, with training as a foster parent and as a special ed teacher. Titus is a parent of three children, three and under. It gets real and practical.
Check out Dru's latest on Patreon, about whether we should burn books or not: https://www.patreon.com/posts/theology-books-f-70107252
This episode was worth the wait: Dru talks with David Carlson, who recently achieved “Twitter virality” for his parody of what he calls “patriarchal theobros.” But that conversation is just the warm-up. Dru and David talk theological formation, devotional life, and how creativity can draw us to God.
That’s not all, folks: Before we get to David, Titus and Dru do some Monday-morning quarterbacking on Titus’s recent debate on non-violence.
You can find Titus’s debate in our podcast feed (ep 95). David Carlson is on Twitter @theBibleinVerse. His website with more creativity is davidecarlson.net
The Christianity Today article on justice and worship songs can be found here: christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/september-web-only/rhodes-ccli-top-25-worship-songs-singing-justice-songs.html
Titus was invited onto Clubhouse for a debate on Christian pacifism.
Enjoy!
We're back with another look at Judges - this time, we explore four judges from chapters 3-5. Why does God keep testing Israel? Was Barack a judge, a coward, or just a guy that God used? And what is the ACTUAL melody for the children's song with Shamgar in it?
Join the conversation by texting or sending a voice message on WhatsApp. Dru's number is 218.353.1725. You can also leave a comment on our Facebook page: facebook.com/thatjesuspod
Dru and Lisl begin a study in the Old Testament book of Judges. It's a bit different from our usual fare, but quite possibly worth a listen! They discuss genocide, the sovereignty of God, and how fast a person could run without their big toes.
Join the conversation by texting or sending a voice message on WhatsApp. Dru's number is 218.353.1725. You can also leave a comment on our Facebook page: facebook.com/thatjesuspod
What kind of Apocalypse do you believe in? Are you premil, amil, preterist, or just a panmillenialist? Our guest explains why most eschatology systems miss the point of John’s revelation. It’s really good stuff.
Before the good stuff though, Titus and Dru talk about prayer retreats and longform prayer. Dru rants about panmillenialism and forgets the name of Jeremy Duncan - our esteemed guest.
Check out Jeremy’s book, UPSIDE-DOWN APOCALYPSE, here: amazon.com/Upside-Down-Apocalypse-Grounding-Revelation-Gospel/dp/1513810391
We have an extended segment with Jeremy on Patreon. Check it out: patreon.com/posts/marvel-movies-68167111
This week, we (sorta?) field questions from our audience, except those that Titus doesn't like. Dru edits out the stuff that is especially egregious - so what's left? The cult of domesticity, Hutterites, small businesses, and a bit on the end of Acts. If you listen very closely, you might just hear a cry for help.
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Without Titus around, Dru manages to ramble through a conversation with a couple Midwesterners: Packy Sporre and Tim Lattin talk about their experiences with the Mennonite church and community, before diving into an ill-fated discussion on gun control.
Like all our episodes, this is a conversation, and there's more to be said. Let us know what you think about this episode, and check out outtakes from this convo on our Patreon.




















I am enjoying this podcast so much! I have only listened to 3 so far, but I am excited to hear them all. I listen to many podcasts. I can honestly say, this one has been one of my favorites for encouragement. I find myself voicing a lot of mmmhmmm's and Amen's as I listen. 😂🙌 Please keep it up!