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On a daily basis, we trust nurses with billions of dollars of equipment, critical procedures, and our most important assets: the people we love. But they’re doing so much more behind the scenes. SEE YOU NOW is a podcast that shines a light on the real people changing the status quo in health: from nurses working in labor & delivery, with infectious diseases, and in hospice; to nurse allies in politics, business and tech.

Hosted by nurse economist and health technology specialist Shawna Butler, RN, MBA, SEE YOU NOW gives listeners access to meaningful conversations with the nurses at the forefront of healthcare and innovation; those developing new devices, processes, protocols, and ways to treat for infection prevention, infant health, maternal mortality, palliative care, and so much more. This podcast is created in collaboration with Johnson & Johnson and the American Nurses Association.
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Imagine – healthy people living in equitable and resilient communities on a thriving planet! That’s the vision of Practice Greenhealth, a sustainability network delivering environmental solutions to more than 1,700 hospitals and health systems in the US and Canada. Healthcare sustainability is important work – if the healthcare sector were a country, it would be the fifth largest carbon emitter on the planet. The impact of environmental factors on human health is apparent now more than ever. The World Health Organization estimates that improved environmental conditions could prevent nearly a quarter of global diseases, citing climate change as a global public health threat. Healthcare leaders are recognizing the operational, strategic, financial and health equity importance of sustainability and resilience practices and taking impressive action in reducing their organization’s environmental footprint, waste, greenhouse gas emissions, and more. In this episode, we learn from clinical experts and sustainability champions Shanda Demorest DNP, RN, PHN, Jonathan Perlin MD, PhD, Jessica Wolff MBA, MSN, Emma Pascale Blakey PhD, RN, and Beth Schenk PhD, MHI, RN-BC how healthcare as a sector is leaning into the generational demand and momentum for environmental stewardship in healthcare and about the vast array of tools, resources, and examples of practicing green health sustainably. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
We’re cheering on runners in the 2024 Boston Marathon this week by having another listen to our episode featuring Nurse Practitioner, elite runner, and Guinness World Record holder, Samantha Roecker, FNP. A competitive runner and nurse, she has a *track record* (pun intended) of breaking barriers and addressing stigmas, and for the 2022 Boston Marathon, she combined her passion for nursing and running into mental health advocacy and raising awareness for healthcare workforce well-being. Inspired by British nurse and marathon record holder, Jessica Anderson, Sam embarked on a bold goal – breaking the Guinness World Record for fastest marathon run in a nurse’s uniform and raising thousands of dollars to support nurse well-being. In this episode, we talk with Samantha about her record-breaking run, the impact stigma has on seeking mental health services and preventing people from reaching their potential, the power of nurse-specific mental health support, and the surprising overlap between nursing and competitive running.    Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and for more information on podcast bundles, visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
March 2024 marks two years since President Biden signed into law the Dr. Lorna Breen Health Care Provider Protection Act. This landmark, first-of-its-kind legislation has funded more than $100 million in grants to implement strategies to reduce and prevent burnout, stress and suicide, sustain well-being, and build workplace cultures and practices so our healthcare workforce can thrive.   The law and the recent bipartisan resolution designating March 18th as Health Workforce Well-Being Day of Awareness is keeping the spotlight and urgency on this workforce crisis and helping reduce stigma, advance research, and ensure that those who care for us can get the care they need.   So we’re having another listen to this episode recorded Live at Aspen Ideas: Health in 2023 where an expert panel led by nurse economist Shawna Butler, RN, MBA, vividly describes how many of our health workplaces and practices are exhausting, overly burdensome, and causing moral distress. Kathy Howell, MBA, BSN, RN, NEA-BC, former Chief Nurse Executive, UCHealth; Corey Feist, President and Co-Founder, Dr. Lorna Breen Heroes' Foundation; and Iman Abuzeid, CEO and Co-Founder, Incredible Health, provide insight into what healthcare talent is seeking from their careers, how forward-leaning health executives are responding to market conditions and workforces that have dramatically shifted, and the readily available system level policy changes urgently needed to support and sustain a thriving health workforce. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and for more information on podcast bundles, visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
Women’s History Month celebrates women’s achievements, acknowledging notable women in history and the important role they’ve played across societies, industries, and culture. There is perhaps no greater source of women’s history-making and contributions to society, science, and social systems than healthcare and the nursing profession with its historically high representation of women among its ranks. In 2024 Women’s History Month focuses on those women who have and continue to advocate for equity, diversity, and inclusion, and SEE YOU NOW is filled with stories of women making an impact across these dimensions.    In this episode, the SEE YOU NOW team digs into our past episodes to highlight women who have and continue to shape history and share our perspectives on why the work of these women -- many of whom are using their nursing superpowers -- to identify, advocate, and hasten equity and representation creates a better future for all and a writes a history that carries forward these important lessons, roadmaps, and contributions.   Featured History Makers and Episodes: 6: Empowering Childbirth, Ruth Watson Lubic   38: Mentoring for a More Equitable Future, Wallena Gould   63: Affirming Care Ally, Dallas Ducar   67: Nurses You Should Know, Joanna Seltzer Uribe and Ravenne Aponte   97: Social Determinants of Employment, Audria Denker, Emily Fairchild, Juatise Gathings 88: Planetary Health Healers, Kasey Bellegarde   47: A Vote for Moms’ Health, Lauren Underwood   31: Black Midwives and Mamas Matter, Joia Crear-Perry, Monica McLemore, Jennie Joseph   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more about podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com  
While not always obvious, the invisible hand of policy is ever-present, shaping our lives, and impacting our health. Much of a nation’s most significant disparities and inequities are rooted in policy decisions that, intentionally or unintentionally, limit access to healthcare, education, transportation, nutrition, childcare and more. The good news: Policy is also one of the most impactful avenues for driving progress toward the health and wellbeing of every citizen. In this episode, we meet nurse Vincent Guilamo-Ramos, PhD, MPH, LCSW, RN, executive director of The Institute for Policy Solutions at the Johns Hopkins School of Nursing, a new institute working to redesign the US healthcare system with the goal of shifting policy and practice to more preventive, value-based and whole-person care. Based in Washington, D.C., right down the street from the U.S. Capitol, Guilamo-Ramos shares the Institute's mission of teaching, research, and convening, and its deep commitment to social welfare, social justice, and public health, as well as the essential role nurses play in shaping solutions, policy, and systems to improve health for every community and every citizen. For more info on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.    
Despite decades of growing interest in improving Black men’s health and the health disparities affecting them, the health of Black men consistently ranks lowest across nearly all groups in the United States. In this update, we’re reconnecting with Julius Johnson, DNP, RN, FNP-BC, a Nurse Practitioner, educator, and football coach, for an update on how he’s keeping youth athletes safe on the playing fields, and resharing the Stories from Heart of Health event held in New York City in the middle of the U.N. General Assembly. Tune in to hear his perspective on supporting Black men’s health, as he describes meeting them where they feel most confident – barbershops, sports fields, and churches – and embracing any event or touchpoint as a teaching moment – like the cardiac arrest suffered mid-game by NFL player Damar Hamlin as an opportunity to demonstrate how to perform CPR and open a door to deeper conversations that help men of all ages take better care of themselves both on and off the field.   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.  
Recorded live at the 2023 DNPs of Color conference, hear from five extraordinary nurse leaders who are shifting entrenched power dynamics and blazing new trails of opportunity for nurses of color and the profession as a whole. Featuring Danielle McCamey, founder of DNPs of Color, Meedie Clark Bardonille, founder Black Nurse Collaborative, Wallena Gould, founder of Diversity in Nurse Anesthesia Mentorship Program, Lucinda Canty, founder of equity initiative Lucinda’s House, and Sandra Davis, Deputy Director, National League for Nursing for this empowering and revealing conversation highlighting successful strategies for advancing diversity and representation in leadership positions, effective ways to dismantle the systemic barriers nurses of color often encounter in their professional journeys, and practical guidance on spearheading initiatives to address health disparities and drive health equity. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
From our first episode, SEE YOU NOW has been focused on trailblazers, changemakers and pioneers, and our 100th episode features a nurse who embodies these values. Virginia Allen, LPN is the last known living Black Angel, part of a group of Black nurses recruited from the Jim Crow South whose tireless efforts led to a cure for tuberculosis, a disease responsible for nearly 18% of New York City deaths in the early 1900s. This story follows the Black Angels who, for twenty years, risked their lives working under dreadful conditions while caring for the city’s poorest and played a major role in desegregating New York City hospitals along with nursing practice, education, and professional associations including the American Nurses Association.   In this episode, recorded live at the 2023 DNPs of Color conference, Virginia and  Maria Smilios, author of the new book, ‘The Black Angels: The Untold Story of the Nurses who Helped Cure Tuberculosis’ share their story with Nurses You Should Know creators Joanna Seltzer Uribe and Ravenne Aponte to the next generation of nursing innovators and trailblazers. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation.Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
A choir for nurses, art tours for clinicians, on-demand meditation for all healthcare workers. In this episode, we’re sharing a panel discussion recorded live at Aspen Ideas: Health, hosted by Jon LaPook, MD and featuring Winnie Mele, RN, David Ko, and Eric Wei, MD, to learn how clinical settings are testing support and wellness interventions to boost emotional health and tame the widespread stress and burnout among nurses, physicians and all healthcare providers that intensified during the COVID-19 pandemic and continues to strain so many. Clinical staff are reporting remarkable improvements in morale and motivation from these creative approaches. Effective patient care is best delivered by a compassionate care team, and that means designing programs to heal the healers.   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.  
Our stories are incredibly powerful. Stories are part of who we are as nurses -- it’s how we gather evidence, unravel medical mysteries, distract people from unpleasant procedures, how we build trust and rapport, and humanize individual and collective experiences. Research indicates that whether the story is a happy one or a hard one -- just knowing the stories of pivotal life experiences helps marshal psychological strengths.   In this episode, recorded in front of a live audience in Chicago at the 2023 American Nurses Credentialing Center National Magnet Conference® and Pathway to Excellence Conference®, nurses shared – in stories and verse – identifying gaps in care, the problems needing attention and solutions, and the partnerships that make us better. Featured in this episode are nurses Jean Ross, RN; Jodi Traver, PhD, RN; Jasmine Bhatti, PhD, RN; Mary Anne Schultz, PhD, MBA, MSN, RN, FAAN; Joey Ferry, BSN, RN; Taofiki Gafar Schaner, MSN, RN; Lindsey Roddy, PhD(c), RN; Stephanie Martinez, MBA, RN; Lorie Hassel-Chuang, BSN, RN, RDH; Paul Coyne, DNP, MBA, MSF, RN, APRN, AGPCNP-BC.   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation.. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.  
Homelessness across the U.S. is on the rise. The National Alliance to End Homelessness reports the number of unsheltered and chronically homeless individuals and families has climbed ~6% annually since 2017, and an estimated 582,462 people experienced homelessness across America in 2022. Advocacy groups and researchers say a big driving force is the decline of affordable housing, a problem decades in the making but one that has grown significantly worse in the past few years. And when people lose their homes, housing and shelter, their lives, health, and safety become far more complex and at risk.   In observance of Homelessness Awareness Month, we’re listening again to this important episode centered on the stories, proven solutions, and care models that are meaningfully improving the health and lives of our most complex community members. Nurse Lauran Hardin, MSN, CNL, FNAP, FAAN shares how inviting a broad range of community agencies to collaboratively address and solve complex situations and care needs improves housing access, reduces avoidable and unnecessary hospital visits, supports behavioral health, and provides the deep satisfaction healthcare professionals experience when people get the full range of health, housing, and human services they need for healthy, joyful, connected lives.   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
Can your zip code determine your future? Data shows that where you grow up significantly influences your health, employment and financial opportunities, dramatically shaping your earning potential and quality of life. In our Meeting of Minds series, we invite you to listen in on conversations between leaders driving innovation in and outside of healthcare. In this episode, Audria Denker DNP, RN, FAADN, ANEF, Juatise Gathings, and Emily Fairchild, ADN, two leaders and a nursing student, compare notes on investing and building opportunity in under-resourced communities while simultaneously achieving business enterprise goals. Learn how Galen School of Nursing in rural Kentucky and a financial services call center in Chicago’s South Side are providing wraparound support alongside education and employment opportunities ensuring students and employees have the practical, social, and financial support they need to build their careers, communities, and thrive in their new programs and positions. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
A key component of sound mental health that may help protect against depression and anxiety is resilience, and key to building it is knowing that you’re connected to a greater purpose – to a story larger than your own. For Native and Indigenous peoples, the stories of origin, history, and identity are central in building resilience and experiencing optimal health. In this episode, we meet Indigenous nurse researcher John Lowe RN, PhD, FAAN, and discover how he is addressing the long-standing structural impediments that have kept American Indian, Alaska Native and Indigenous youth from connecting to their cultural heritage and identities, and to a history that he describes as a source of great strength. John established the first Center for Indigenous Nurse Research For Health Equity where he is innovating on ancestral wisdom and tradition—through practices like the Virtual Talking Circle—to enable Indigenous youth to move away from harmful behaviors and move toward lives and coping mechanisms that are both positive and strength-based. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
The link between nursing, voting, and health equity and outcomes might not seem obvious, but for the health professionals who have campaigned, served and ushered in meaningful legislation, the relationship is a natural one. When individuals and communities vote, they influence policy decisions that have a big effect on their health.  Celebrated every September since 2012, National Voter Registration Day has quickly gained momentum with more than 5 million Americans registered to vote through the coordinated volunteer efforts of media, civic groups, and yes, health care providers and organizations.   In recognition of the vital link between health and voting and a reminder to verify your voter registration and help others to do the same, we’re having another listen to an earlier episode with public health nurse and Delaware Lt Governor Bethany Hall-Long, where we discover how clinical practice, nursing expertise and research, and voting are critical drivers of influencing, passing, and enacting legislation to keep citizens, our environment, and our economy healthy. Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
We’re swapping episodes with our friends at Radio Advisory to hear what they’re learning that can help address pressing workforce issues in healthcare, while Radio Advisory listeners are checking out an episode of SEE YOU NOW.   Recent research shows that health workforce vacancies – particularly among registered nurses – is the top issue for healthcare CEOs. While nursing vacancies are challenging for nursing departments, there are a host of systemwide problems that will impact quality and safety alongside an organization's ability to grow.   In this Radio Advisory episode, host Rachel (Rae) Woods speaks with Advisory Board's Chief Nursing Officer, Carol Boston, and two leaders from University Hospitals – Chief Quality & Clinical Transformation Officer, Peter Pronovost, and Chief Nursing Executive, Michelle Hereford – about recent data and their experiences navigating the complexity of the workforce vacancies. They share key insights and explore how reduced staffing is impacting health organizations at large, why organizations can't seem to find a solution, and how addressing tactical issues alone will not solve the crisis.   We're delighted to introduce you to the Radio Advisory podcast and why it’s a vital part of the healthcare podcasting listening-scape.   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
High vacancy and turnover rates in our healthcare workforce are today's well-documented reality putting safe, affordable, quality healthcare at risk for everyone. In this episode, recorded live at Aspen Ideas: Health, an expert panel led by nurse economist Shawna Butler, RN, MBA, vividly describes how many of our health workplaces and practices are exhausting, overly burdensome, and causing moral distress and early career departures of our talented, dedicated, and overworked healthcare professionals. Kathy Howell, MBA, BSN, RN, NEA-BC, Chief Nurse Executive, UCHealth; Corey Feist, President and Co-Founder, Dr. Lorna Breen Heroes' Foundation; and Iman Abuzeid, CEO and Co-Founder, Incredible Health, provide insight into what healthcare talent is seeking from their careers, how forward-leaning health executives are responding to market conditions and workforces that have dramatically shifted, and the readily available system level policy changes urgently needed to support and sustain a thriving health workforce.  Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
It’s broadly accepted that only 20% of health outcomes are determined by medical care. The other 80% are determined by the conditions in which people are born, grow, live, learn, work and age; circumstances shaped by the distribution of money, power and resources at global, national and local levels -- what is better understood as the political determinants of health -- voting, government, and policy. And the more people who vote in your community, the healthier your community is.   As nurses and midwives witness health access and outcomes increasingly being determined by ballot measures or wrapped in policy decisions, they are turning their next steps of advocacy and activism into running for elected public office. In this episode, we explore with Kimberly Gordon, DNP, CRNA, co-founder of the nonpartisan non-profit Healing Politics, why nurses and midwives need to get politically engaged, run for elected office up and down the ballot, what campaign training sounds like, and how to build a culture of civic engagement within the nursing professions.   Find this episode’s resources at www.seeyounowpodcast.com and to find out more information on the podcast bundles visit ANA’s Innovation Website at www.nursingworld.org/innovation. Have questions for the SEE YOU NOW team? Feedback? Future episode ideas? Contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
As the temperatures rise and vacations are afoot, there's no better time to indulge in uninterrupted hours of podcast listening. And to make your listening easy, enjoyable, and thoughtful we’ve created a Summer SEE YOU NOW Playlist!   Given that the US and much of the world are experiencing scorching temperatures with roughly one in three Americans living under an extreme heat advisory -- we’ve included See You Now episodes that shed light on heat-related health matters. We’re also thinking about how summer is a time when graduations and moves take place -- and the perfect moment to check your voter registration status and consider the surprising impact voting has on your personal and community’s health as we gear up for Civic Health Month in August and all its upcoming activities.    During the past year, so many conversations have centered on our relationship with work and very specifically the healthcare workforce -- exploring in depth and detail “what’s working for work” and what thriving, engaged, productive work environments and workforces look like, how you build them, and how you sustain them.    Summer also signals a more relaxed pace affording time to ponder, synthesize, and discuss weightier complex topics that require deeper reflection, consideration, and commitment to progress. For just that type of listening, we’ve included See You Now episodes that go deeper into the rich, beautiful, incomplete, and complicated history of nursing and its power to change people, careers, and our world.   So whatever comes your way this summer, See You Now has you covered with great listening, learning, and inspiration to enjoy and share with your friends and family.   Summer SEE YOU NOW Playlist! 51: The Patient is our Planet 55: Ready to Vote? 90: Mobile Medical and Mental Health Team 75: The Point of Care 86: Representation Matters 64: Reporting Powers: Leading with Love 87: Tackling Black Men’s Health Listen Again 67: Nurses You Should Know 91: Reckoning with Racism (Part I) 92: Reckoning with Racism (Part II) 89: Nursing’s Power to Change Our World   To learn more, visit our website at www.seeyounowpodcast.com or contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
Around the world, cancer is on the rise in people under the age of 50 – an upward march that has been underway for decades. Even with stunning new advances in research, early detection, and treatment, many clinicians are worried about the prevalence of certain cancers, including breast, colon, kidney, liver, esophageal, and pancreatic cancers, in younger people. What’s more, practitioners and public health experts are deeply concerned about missed screenings and delayed preventive care as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and the impact that will have on persistent racially driven health disparities in cancer care, treatment, and survivorship for minority communities.  In this Moment of Awareness, Nurse Practitioner and researcher Timiya Nolan, PhD, APRN-CNP, ANP-BC describes her research as a “work of love” to young Black women, how representation allows research to move from academia to practice, and the power clinicians have in addressing disparities in care through partnership and collaboration with communities. To learn more, visit our website at www.seeyounowpodcast.com or contact us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
Racism in America remains pervasive. It’s led to sicker, shorter lives for people of color; a healthcare workforce that hasn’t reflected the communities it cares for; and caused harm to nursing and nurses, particularly nurses of color. Aware of its own role in perpetuating systemic racism, the American Nurses Association (ANA) is on a journey of racial reckoning along with many partners inside and outside of nursing and healthcare. In this two-part episode, we hear from leaders in nursing, media, and the life sciences industry about how they are leaning into racial reckoning in their organizations to address and eliminate the harms of racism.   In Part II, Shawna Butler, RN MBA and co-host Lucinda Canty, PhD, CNM, FACNM dig into the role media, journalism, and industry play in addressing and eliminating racially driven health disparities and inequities. Vanessa Broadhurst, Executive Vice President, Global Corporate Affairs of Johnson & Johnson describes Our Race To Health Equity, a bold initiative addressing racial and social injustice as a public health threat; reveals funding and partnerships targeted at diversifying the healthcare and broader workforce, and making certain their internal practices are living up to their diversity, equity, and inclusion commitments. Errin Haines, editor-at-large at the nonprofit newsroom The 19th, describes the importance of media in shaping our awareness, accuracy and understanding of the scope of racism in healthcare and why reporting on the people and areas of progress can reduce racially driven health disparities. Email us at hello@seeyounowpodcast.com.
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