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Teaching leadership is hard. Join professors Dan Jenkins and Lauren Bullock, leadership educators with 30+ yrs experience in curricular and co-curricular leadership programs in higher education, as they capture in dialogue questions from their peers and share knowledge and expertise on facilitating leadership learning. Passionate about leadership education? Want to expand your resource toolbox with practical strategies for teaching, learning, and program design? This is the podcast for you!
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In this episode, Dan and Lauren talk with Dr. Ralph Gigliotti, Assistant Vice President for Organizational Leadership in the Office of the Executive Vice President for Academic Affairs at Rutgers University. Ralph, a leading researcher in crisis leadership in higher education, updates us on where we are now and how we can use leadership theories and frameworks for making decisions for your classes and programs.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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ILA Interface Newsletter PAUSE for Pedagogy Column: Crisis Leadership Education and Exploration
What Academic Leaders Can Do to Navigate Crisis with Dr. Ralph Gigliotti (Sept. 8, 2020, podcast episode)
NDSL #170: Using Inventories and Assessments to Enhance Leadership Development with Drs. Marcy Levy Shankman and Ralph A. Gigliotti (Dec. 15, 2021 podcast episode)
Ralph's book: Crisis Leadership in Higher Education
Ralph's book: Competencies for Effective Leadership: A Framework for Assessment, Education, and Research
Priya Parker's The Art of Gathering
In the first episode of the ninth season, Dan and Lauren explain this season's theme: "Generative Learning for Leadership Education". With all of the changes happening in higher education and society, the pair will explore how leadership educators focus on cultivating generative thinking and behaviors in leaders. The hosts, alongside other leadership educators and scholars, will discuss topics such as integrating artificial intelligence into leadership teaching, navigating complex ethical challenges, understanding new social phenomena, teaching during disruptions and adaptive challenges, and other emerging trends and issues affecting leaders in this space. This season's broad question is - how are leadership educators processing what's happening as they are trying to develop curriculum, teach, evaluate leadership learning, and build community?
In this episode, Lauren and Dan welcome Dr. Tony Middlebrooks, Clinical Full Professor of Leadership at the University of Florida, and Matthew Creasy, Associate Director of Leadership Development at the University of Delaware. Together, they explore their experiences teaching LEAD 300: Leadership, Creativity, and Innovation. Listeners will hear insights on how creativity and leadership intersect in the classroom, focusing on engaging students through hands-on activities and fostering an innovative mindset. The conversation delves into how students can overcome self-imposed limits on creativity and how leadership educators can inspire students to think divergently, innovate, and address complex challenges. Tony and Matt also discuss their own teaching philosophies and memorable moments from the course, providing valuable takeaways for leadership educators.
Dr. Michelle Cummings-Steele's work as a leadership educator started long before she recognized it. Rooted in years of serving as a bridge between experience and learning, Dr. Cummings-Steele delves into her work connecting students with communities and how her leadership education research co-inquiry group has helped her grow during the pandemic.
Dan and Lauren return for the fourth season of The Leadership Educator Podcast. Listen in as we share our thoughts on leadership education in 2021. Some of the resources and events discussed in this episode include:
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The National Leadership Education Research Agenda 2020–2025: Advancing the State of Leadership Education Scholarship
New Directions for Student Leadership
Journal of Leadership Education
Association of Leadership Educators 2021 Annual Conference
International Leadership Association 2021 Global Conference
2021 NASPA Virtual Conference
ACPA 2021 Convention
ACUI 2021 Virtual Annual Conference
In this episode, Dr. Virginia Byrne highlights issues of equity and inclusion in virtual spaces. She explains how teachers can make meaning and create "teacher presence" in asynchronous and synchronous courses. Some of the resources Virginia shared include:
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Talk about Teacher Presence! Lee Krempel from Frederick Douglass High School in Baltimore, MD made the best Instagram welcome videos for his students this March. First Day Online & Second Day Online
Jackson, S. J., Bailey, M., & Welles, B. F. (2020). #hashtagactivism: Networks of race and gender justice. MIT Press.
Linder, C., Myers, J., Riggle, C., & Lacy, M. (2016). From margins to mainstream: Social media as a tool for campus sexual violence activism. Journal of Diversity in Higher Education, 9(3), 231-244.
Linder, C., Quaye, S. J., Lange, A. C., Evans, M. E., & Stewart, T. J. (2019) Identity-based student activism on campus. New York, NY: Routledge
Morgan, D. L. & Davis III, C. H. (Eds.). (2019), Student activism, politics, and campus climate in higher education. New York: NY: Routledge.
Morgan, D. L., Zilvinskis, J., & Dugan, B. (2019). Opening the activism and postsecondary education black box: Relating high-impact practices and student identity with activist behaviors. Journal of Political Science Education, 1–24.
In this episode of The Leadership Educator Podcast, Dan and Lauren wrap up Season 11 by reflecting on the innovative tools and themes explored throughout the series. They explore how reflection, healthy competition, storytelling, gamification, and online simulations are transforming leadership education. Guests from the season share insights on designing meaningful learning experiences, using digital tools with purpose, and creating emotionally resonant leadership development environments. The conversation offers practical strategies and key reflections for leadership educators and practitioners seeking to level up their impact.
In this episode, Dan and Lauren go behind the scenes of the 2025 International Leadership Association’s Leadership Education Academy with co-founder and co-chair Dr. Corey Seemiller and co-chair Dr. Nathan Eva. They talk about what’s new in the evolving curriculum, the energy and fun that make the experience unforgettable, and how LEA continues to foster a strong, inclusive community of leadership educators.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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From a Diner to the Academy with Dr. Corey Seemiller
What to Expect When Attending the 2022 Leadership Education Academy with Dr. Kerry Priest and Rian Satterwhite
Rian Satterwhite Impact Stipend – Apply Now and Read more about this opportunity and Rian Satterwhite’s work here
In this episode, hosts Dan and Lauren speak with Gary Lloyd, founder of The Leadership Skills Lab and author of Gardeners Not Mechanics: How to Cultivate Change at Work. With decades of experience leading change in financial markets and banking, Gary shares how his interactive, web-based platform leverages coaching, role play, and AI to support leadership growth. He challenges traditional approaches to change management, advocating for adaptive, organic leadership development. Gary also reflects on his recent keynote conversation at the ILA’s AI in Leadership Summit, offering insights into the evolving role of AI in leader learning and performance.
In this episode, Dan and Lauren speak with the co-editors of New Directions for Student Leadership #184, Drs. Jonathan R. Kroll, Cameron C. Beatty, and Amber Manning-Ouellette. They explore Facilitating Leadership Development in Training Contexts, released in Winter 2024. This special issue centers on student leadership training and emphasizes the need for leadership educators to both understand the theories, history, and complexities of the field and to model healthy leadership habits that help individuals thrive and organizations flourish. The editors share their collaborative process and underscore the importance of self-reflective practice, authentic identity development, and the creation of belonging in leadership spaces. The issue highlights facilitation strategies that move beyond lecture-style delivery to support meaningful leadership learning and application.
In this episode of The Leadership Educator Podcast, hosts Dan and Lauren connect with Drs. Lisa Kuron and Kris Gerhardt from Wilfrid Laurier University, where they teach in the Leadership Program within the Department of Human & Social Sciences. Active in ILA, ALE, and MOBTS, both are closely involved with the Collegiate Leadership Competition (CLC), a global initiative that turns leadership into a high-impact, team-based learning experience. Lisa and Kris share how they use competition and team building in their leadership courses, offering evidence-based strategies and real-world examples to support student growth and engagement.
In this episode of The Leadership Educator Podcast, hosts Dan and Lauren sit down with Dr. Lacey Grey Hunter and Lori Throupe from Christopher Newport University. Lacey serves as Director of the President’s Leadership Program and adjunct faculty, while Lori is the Faculty Director of Academic Success and a leadership faculty member. Together, they explore the concepts of team building and team becoming as powerful strategies in leadership education. They discuss evidence-based practices, the role of followership, and how feedback supports the development of strong, collaborative teams across curricular and co-curricular settings.
In this episode, Dan and Lauren discuss the latest issue of New Directions for Student Leadership with special issue co-editors Drs. Brittany Devies and Ana C. Maia. They explore NDSL #183: Applying the Leadership Learning Framework in Practice, released in Fall 2024. Brittany and Ana share insights on how the Leadership Learning Framework can be applied to enhance student leadership development, improve organizational effectiveness, and create more intentional learning experiences.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning book
New Directions for Student Leadership: Volume 2024, Issue 183 -- Applying the Leadership Learning Framework in Practice
Graduate Certificate in Professional Leadership Education at the University of Southern Maine
LOS 626 - Leadership Education: Assessment & Evaluation
LOS 627 - Leadership Education: Design & Delivery
The National Leadership Education Research Agenda (NLERA) 2020–2025: Advancing the State of Leadership Education Scholarship
In this episode of The Leadership Educator Podcast, hosts Dan and Lauren sit down with Dr. Shannon Cleverley-Thompson, President of Cleverly Consulting and Dissertation-in-Practice Chair at Creighton University. With over 15 years of experience teaching in executive leadership programs, Shannon shares how storytelling can be a transformative tool in leadership education. She dives into evidence-based practices, real-world applications, and practical strategies that educators and leaders can use to enhance engagement and impact.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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•The Storytelling Leader by David Hutchins - The Storytelling Leader & Free Resources - The Storytelling Leader
•The Story Factor: Secrets Of Influence From The Art Of Storytelling
•The chapter is free for download here: Chapter 1. The Six Stories You Need to Know How to Tell
In this episode of The Leadership Educator, hosts Dan and Lauren talk with Dr. Paige Haber-Curran about creating engaging teaching activities for leadership education. Drawing from her experiences as both an educator and a parent, she reveals how inspiration for innovative classroom techniques can emerge from everyday life. Dr. Haber-Curran shares insights into the origins of the Great Ideas Teach & Share session at the International Leadership Association (ILA) conference and offers practical strategies for designing activities that motivate and inspire students.
In this episode, Dan and Lauren discuss integrating reflection into leadership classes and programs with Dr. Jillian Volpe White. Jillian shares things to consider when adding reflection to your teaching and workshop plans. All share ways they have used it in the classroom or trainings.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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Journal Keeping: Journal Keeping: How to Use Reflective Writing for Learning, Teaching, Professional Insight, and Positive Change
Leadership development and reflection: what is the connection?
Thinking to Transform: Reflection in Leadership Learning
Thinking to Transform Companion Manual: Facilitating Reflection in Leadership Learning
In this episode, Dan and Lauren speak with Dr. Joe Lasley, an educator and scholar who integrates gaming into leadership courses and training. Together, they discuss their experiences incorporating games into classrooms and workshops. Joe also shares valuable resources for those looking to get started.
In this episode, Dan speaks with Drs. Corey Seemiller and Jessica Hill about adding improv exercises to leadership courses and workshops. Resources mentioned include:
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Professors at Play: https://professorsatplay.org/
Yes, and Higher Education Network: https://eastsideinstitute.org/yes-and-higher-education-network/
Applied Improvisation Network: https://www.appliedimprovisationnetwork.org/
Tucson Improv Movement: https://www.tucsonimprov.com/
The “Yes, and” book on Jess's desk was this one: Leonard, K. & Yorton, T. (2015). Yes, and: How improvisation reverses “no, but” thinking and improves creativity and collaboration. Harper Business (it’s from the folks that run the Second City training program).
In this episode, Dan and Lauren preview the theme for this season, focusing on teaching activities within leadership classrooms and programs. They begin with a few professional updates before exploring the topics that will be discussed throughout the season. Other updates mentioned in this episode include:
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Journal of Leadership Studies Special Symposia on AI & Leadership Call for Proposals
Association of Leadership Educators 2025 Conference Call for Proposals
International Leadership Association 2025 Global Conference Call for Proposals
In the final episode of season 10, Dan and Lauren reflect on their experiences from the season. They revisit conversations with faculty members about their innovative courses and explore the diverse approaches to teaching leadership. The duo shares key takeaways and lessons learned from various episodes, discussing classroom strategies and the challenges faced by educators.
Some resources from the episode include:
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Followership Episode - https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-28v6r-175d0c4
Creativity and Innovation Episode - https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-dp9jy-17143f3
Athletics, Coaching and Leadership Episode - https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-nqeue-16fb7a0
Creating a Class for a Conference Episode - https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-4wxnp-16e712a
Stop Hazing Episode - https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-49u9a-1714084
Leadership and AI Virtual Summit website - https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/events/2024-ai-amp-leadership-virtual-summit/
ILA Women and Leadership Conference website - https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/7th-women-and-leadership-conference/
Global Followership Conference website - https://www.followershipconference.com/
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